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So, Stephon Marbury didn't play...

It makes me feel like a stereotypical grumpy Knicks fan to give this issue much attention after a nice win, but, well, it's what's happening right now and I'd like to see what everyone thinks. The Knicks won last night, which was cool. Not as cool (or maybe cooler, depending on your views), was that Stephon Marbury didn't step on the court for even a second. Mardy Collins and Malik Rose got around 5-10 minutes a piece, but good old Steph, our reigning "best point guard in the NBA" put up a dinoplacode (DId NOt PLAy, COach's DEcision, for those of you not in the P&T know). What do we think of this, people? Let's have a little point, counterpoint to start things off.

George Willis, NY Post:

No longer will playing time be handed out based on contracts and perceived status. Not under D'Antoni's watch. By benching Marbury and Curry, the coach has made it clear the Knicks will have to earn their way into his lineup, which is welcome news to Garden fans who watched this team sleepwalk through the past two years under Isiah Thomas.

Marc Berman, also NY Post:

Not sure exactly what Stephon Marbury did this preseason to deserve what he got tonight - which was getting humiliated in his hometown by a supposed player's coach Mike D'Antoni.

Marbury got in the best shape of his career, he had a sharp preseason, he accepted his backup role to a career backup in Chris Duhon. But it wasn't good enough for D'Antoni. Maybe D'Antoni bought his son a pair of Starburys that didn't fit right.

I find myself on the fence between these two lovely gentlemen. On one hand, I trust D'Antoni, and we did win, after all. On the other hand, Stephon Marbury is better than Mardy Collins by any measure, and his clutch wisdom down the stretch. (Say what you want about Steph off the court, but I'll argue that he's as grizzled and competent a veteran as any in the league when he's between the baselines.)

I guess we should also remember that it's just one game, and it likely won't foretell how the whole season plays out (if it did, we'd end up 82-0!). I'd also like to add that I overreacted a bit to Jamal Crawford's fourth quarter plight in last night's game. He was magnificent throughout, and the shots were falling as sweetly as ever. I was just really frustrated with that late-game meltdown, and the recency effect of that brief lapse eclipsed an otherwise commendable game in my head. My mistake.

All that said, let's simplify this Marbury stuff into a nifty little poll. Go!

Poll
What's Stephon Marbury's place in the rotation?
Marbury is washed-up/a distraction/a poor teammate, and should get zero minutes.
51 votes
Marbury came to camp in shape and is a more capable player than some of the guys ahead of him in the rotation. He should be getting minutes.
64 votes
Marbury is the best point guard on the team and should start.
25 votes

140 votes | Poll has closed

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i got nothing to do at work HARD

but anyway… marbury deserves the 10 minutes mardy got/will get/gets… its not anything deeper than that. send your message, bt don’t make me suffer through mardy collins…

also… the win trumps marbury’s dnp every time.

by stingy d on Oct 30, 2008 5:28 PM EDT   0 recs

lets b real here

i’m not knocking duhon at all he played very in control last night and made shots when expected to. but to compare him and steph is just nuts. people claim he’s a better pure point which i kinda buy but he’s not exactly the brevin knight of point guards. he is a back up point and plays like it. which is fine but steph is just much better in basically everything. duhon had 3 assists last night. i dont think its crazy 2 think steph can play around the same as duhon when it comes to running the offense while still having a guy who can still light it up when neccesery. the curry thing i get but i feel like not playing marbury is just out of spite really. i kno he’s fucked up mad times on this team but really i think deep down we all know he’s our most talented player.

by antnyk on Oct 30, 2008 5:42 PM EDT   0 recs

Well said.

What we can’t speak to is the opinions of the players. What if D’Antoni has spoken to them and the consensus was that Marbury shouldn’t play? There are some factors we can’t account for, but antnyk is right. If you think about who we’re putting out there rather than Steph, you take two messages from it:

1. Steph, you’ve been a little shit for the past couple of years. Fuck you.
2. We aren’t doing everything we can to win.

Everyone deserves a (thirty)second chance. He’s put in work, let’s see him spin.

"I'll probably go get lifted right now with Greg. Hey, and come back tomorrow and try to get another win."

-Renaldo

by solanumbrella on Oct 30, 2008 8:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

correct me if i’m wrong, but isn’t brevin knight the brevin knight of point guards?

by ny knickerbocker on Oct 31, 2008 2:14 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's obvious.

Marbury’s place in the rotation is not in the right state of mind.

by Mrs. Shaquanta D. Edwards on Oct 30, 2008 8:52 PM EDT   0 recs

Marbury

Looking back over over a bunch of posts, I found this note from the Raptors game

Stephon Marbury- Steph did little other than cough up 5 turnovers and get to the hole a few times.

Hmmm – Bottom line – this year is not about this year. The goal this year is to develop the young players and win “enough” to avoid a fan revolt.

No matter how much talent Marbury has, he is not part of the future of this team. This year, the focus has got to be building the group that will be the future.

As for Marbury “accepting” his role as a sub, maybe. We heard what he said to the press, but what did he say in private?

by NYERinSF on Oct 31, 2008 12:11 AM EDT   0 recs

The goal this year

is to make the fans not hate the sport of basketball anymore.

"I'll probably go get lifted right now with Greg. Hey, and come back tomorrow and try to get another win."

-Renaldo

by solanumbrella on Oct 31, 2008 12:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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