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So, I guess Donnie Walsh was serious about that 2010 thing.

Sweet Buck Williams' britches, what a day. In one rotation of the earth, Donnie Walsh swiftly and mercilessly cut payroll and changed the face of our team. The most recent news is still fresh out the oven, but here's a quick look at what seems to be the case:

New York Receives: Al Harrington, Cuttino Mobley, Tim Thomas

Golden State Receives: Jamal Crawford

Los Angeles Receives: Zach Randolph,  Mardy Collins (maybe)

That's over $25 million dollars of cap relief in the summer of 2010. It's also the team's two leading scorers (about 40 ppg combined), and one of the league's best rebounders both out the door. Tomorrow will be dedicated to saying farewell to Crawford and Randolph, two players with mixed legacies in New York- both deserving some attention as they board planes to California.

Meanwhile, what does this mean for this season's Knicks, who are a respectable 6-5 heading into tonight's contest in Milwaukee? Well that's two starters scratched. Stephon Marbury has been activated for tonight's game, but I doubt we'll actually see him. For the time being, expect Quentin Richardson to slide down to the 2 spot while David Lee steps into the starting lineup. Or Robinson/Roberson may plug the string-bean shaped hole vacated by Crawford for the time being.

That's the near future. What are the other, long-term implications?

- The Knicks are even farther away from having a frontcourt. Al Harrington's game is Randolph-esque, but with more threes and far less rebounding. The Knicks may need to start Herb Williams at center for the next two seasons.

- On the other hand, David Lee fans can rejoice that our hero's resigning has become more feasible. Or we can live in fear that Walsh is ready to pull the trigger on anybody, and that Lee is an asset to be packaged as the cherry on top of a foul contract later this year.

- Cuttino Mobley is a decent basketball player, but has nothing to contribute besides some shooting, and may never sign another NBA contract.

- Walsh's pickup of Tim Thomas represents some degree of ignorance for Knicks history. If he was trying to erase the legacy of Isiah Thomas, then resurrecting one of Zeke's most perverted acquisitions wasn't the way to go. I understand that he's an expiring deal, but I'd rather just pay the Clippers $12 million for some Universal Studios gift certificates or something. I don't need Tim Thomas back in my life.

- Last, and far from least, is the fact that Donnie Walsh has unmistakeably made his purpose clear. This team is within an Eddy Curry deal away from being legitimate players for the free agent class of 2010. Quincy Douby is within our sights!

The game has changed my friends. Say goodbye to those above-.500 Knicks who were just starting to convince you. Say hello to a team of young studs and expiring contracts that may drive Mike D'Antoni off the deep end before the dawn of 2010. Get ready for many, many losses interspersed with the occasional runaway win (this team just got much more trigger-happy from downtown, if that was possible), prepare for a few more high draft picks to come, and brace yourself for more idle speculation every time LeBron James eats a slice of pizza for the next 2 years. We're rebuilding in earnest, my friends. This is what we wanted, isn't it?

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YES!!

This is what we wanted.

The goal is not just making the playoffs, but winning a championship, and I firmly believe we are closer to that goal now after these trades than we were beforehand.

And even if we lose out on the LeBron sweepstakes for some reason, I think we have a GREAT shot at EITHER LeBron, Wade, or Bosh.

by twincitiesknick on Nov 21, 2008 5:23 PM EST   0 recs

Great comment

They said on the WFAN this morning; all moves should be towards winning a championship….not just getting an 8th seed for the playoffs and bowing out in the 1st round. I like that the Knicks seem to have a plan and are actually working towards that plan; rather than fumbling along with moves that never seemed to actually be thought out.

by Cody K on Nov 21, 2008 5:44 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

well

i’ll see you guys in 2010.

have a happy next three thanksgivings.

Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!

by Anthony Masons Haircut on Nov 21, 2008 5:27 PM EST   0 recs

been reading this blog for a while

but this is the first time I’ve been compelled to post. Gotta say I love these moves. Like twincitiesknicks said, if the goal is to win a championship and not just be content with competing for one of the last slots in the playoffs, than this is a great move. Yea, they’ll suck this year and probably next, but is that any different than the last few years? At least now there’s hope for the future. This clearly signals to me that Walsh has a long-term plan, which is what you need if you want to go from also-ran to the top of the league (well, that or having Kevin Garnett fall into your lap, which wasn’t gonna happen for the Knicks).

by cjmulrain on Nov 21, 2008 5:38 PM EST   0 recs

Trades

I told someone on Monday that, with Crawford and Randolph putting up big numbers like they have been (both look like potential All-Stars picks right now), now is the time to trade them as their value is as high as it can be.

Well, the Crawford for Harrington deal is being reported by ESPN has almost done. I’m guessing if anything does happens with Randolph, it will be after the first deal takes place, since the Knicks need bodies on the court. Of course, of the three big post 2009 contracts (Crawford, Randolph, Curry), Randolph was the one that seemed the most likely to stick as a Knick, if only because he actually would be a decent compliment to a LeBron or Wade (more so than Crawford or Curry, anyway).

As for Curry (the last piece), he’ll have to be packaged with David Lee in order to get traded. Don’t discard that possibility.

If so, then the Knicks would have almost $40 million in cap room in 2010 for LBJ, Wade, Bosh, etc. And decent pieces in Chandler, maybe Nate Robinson (depends on the extension), Danilo, and next year’s #1. Not great pieces to compliment LBJ or Bosh, but decent… and the Knicks will still have enough cap room to sign another star or two decent role players (shades of Larry Johnson, Chris Childs and Allan Houston).

by stopmikelupica on Nov 21, 2008 5:47 PM EST   0 recs

look at what the Celtics did

before last season. Not incomprehensible to think the Knicks could do something similar for 2010: Lebron plus another good (and slightly cheaper) FA can instantly turn a lottery team into a championship contender.

by cjmulrain on Nov 21, 2008 5:52 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I'm down for change, as much as it stings.

If the boat’s broke, get a new boat. Don’t just patch them holes. Or in this case, take out the shotgun and bust a few holes of your own, then build it anew.

Now we must be patient.

by Seth on Nov 21, 2008 5:48 PM EST   0 recs

great trade for you guys.
I agree with the guy above that Lee will probably be packaged with Curry and I think it’s a good move.
After that what the knicks need to do is draft well next season, pray for Galinari’s health, develop Chandler and Nate. And then get Amare or Bosh or Lebron. That’s pretty good compared to the recent past.
Too bad you didn’t get DeAndre Jordan, he should be a nice project.

The team will still be fun to watch, Zach was playing well, but losing Crawford is a good thing. You won’t win much, but you still be better than Okhlahoma.

by Falcao on Nov 21, 2008 5:53 PM EST   0 recs

operation LeBron

in full effect

by DoctorK16 on Nov 21, 2008 5:59 PM EST   0 recs

Curry

You can keep Curry and you’re still in line for $30m+ cap space in ’10.

I await QuincyDoubyComeHome.com.

by Ziller on Nov 21, 2008 6:24 PM EST   0 recs

wow

i agree with what every1’s been saying but cmon, we’re 11 games into the season and we’ve instantly become unwatchable. i know we’re building for a championship not an 8th round sweep but im just so fuckin tired of watching my favorite team be the laughing stock of the league. its gonna b hard 2 even give a shit about the season now. i absolutely love the knicks i have an obsession and its bad ha, but i really dont know how commited i am to watching them lose by 18 every night just to watch chandler and nate grow.

this really puts into perspective how bad isiah and layden did the past few years that its come to this point. not being even respectable since like 2003.

and i cant b the only 1 who thinks that lebron is gonna return to clevland. like i kno hes the best player in the world so u have 2 put yourself out there but really if he goes back there and wade and bosh return to their teams (which every sign points that they will) where does that leave us? a team of mediocre talent with pieces but no direction.

wow

by antnyk on Nov 21, 2008 6:24 PM EST   0 recs

i dont know

I don’t know if we’re still a laughingstock if there’s a future in sight. People laugh at ill-fated trades that fail to patch holes. Rebuilding to make one of the most important cities in the basketball world a power again isn’t funny. People get scared now.

Ok, Tim Thomas still being employed is kinda funny, but I promise they’ll be scared before long.

by Seth on Nov 21, 2008 6:36 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I agree

I am totally bummed out about this. Right now I feel like I could care less about the possibility of LeBron in three years. I wanted to stay in and watch a good game of Knicks basketball TONIGHT.

by BreadCity on Nov 21, 2008 7:42 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

With every loss

my mantra will now be 2010, 2010, 2010.

It would be nice if the papers would just use that score for every game we lose. For example, last Tuesday’s game would read: Celtics 110, Knicks 2010.

by davidvangorp on Nov 21, 2008 9:22 PM EST   0 recs

congratulations from a portland fan.

I was never a fan of zachs contract. I always felt it was stupid to sign him to it after raising a tissy fit over not being offered a max deal… but anyway, yeah, I’m glad you guy’s are no longer the carrier of that burden, and Oden will get to rough him up a bit more if he’ll ever decide to play some Defense. :)

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Nov 22, 2008 12:38 AM EST   0 recs

I think I remember Cat Mobley used to be a pretty good defender, but he’s gettin pretty up there at this point.

No matter what Walsh does I won’t be impressed until he trades JJ. Plus I like the looks of this Demar Derozan kid. This team seems pretty poised towards making a run at winning the lottery. With that maybe the year’s slogan should be “Hey ya never know”

by pmsjerk on Nov 22, 2008 12:46 AM EST   0 recs

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