Monday Pygmy Tarsiers
by Seth on Nov 24, 2008 5:50 PM EST
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The internets be chattering about the Knicks right now. They're coming off a couple big trades this weekend, and the Cavaliers come to New York tomorrow. It's always big news when Jawad Williams is in town. Anyway, let's peruse a few links regarding the recent news...
- DLIC fancies Walsh/D'Antoni as a twisted sort of change we can believe in. Skeets addressed this in today's TBJ too, and I understand why people aren't pleased. It's ugly to hear discussion of the year 2010 when that's over a year and a half away, and there are two NBA champions to be crowned between now and that fateful summer. It's also a little sick that, just as D'Antoni was starting to click with Randolph, Crawford, and the rest of the squad, things got torn apart. Both sentiments hit home. First of all, I won't be dwelling on 2010 in these parts. Sure, when the Knicks get blown out by the Bucks, I'll probably recite that very notion to keep myself sane, but I don't plan on speculation and premature examination of Bron, Bosh, Wade, etc. They aren't Knicks. The media will continue to pelt us with loose talk, but there are 150 odd games to play in the meantime, and it'd be best to stay on top of those. Wouldn't you rather the players be doing the same?
Now, as for the weird, silly, and oddly succesful Knicks squad that was dismantled Friday night, it's a shame to see it dissipate. Regarding the NBA as a whole, I tend to favor such oddball pairings as D'Antoni-Randolph, especially when they're just crazy enough to work. When it comes to the Knicks, though, my sense of humor has dwindled a bit. It's been about a decade of tragic but hilarious basketball in New York, and now I feel it's time to do some winning. If it means snuffing a 7-6 team that featured Zach Randolph in a run-and-gun offense, so be it. I'm not saying it doesn't sting, but I'm ready for the Knicks to matter again.
- That was a long bullet, eh?
- Tommy Dee says not so fast to those of us already descending into the tank mindset. Al Harrington's ready to contribute off the screen-and-roll, Cuttino Mobley's drastically improves the backcourt D, and Tim Thomas has already proven to be clutch in D'Antoniball. So says Dee. I love the positivity.
- From the LA Times (also via TKB), word that Donnie Walsh pushed hard for Marcus Camby, which is reassuring. He gave in when the Clips wouldn't budge, but at least he's got our best interests in mind (and by that I mean somebody, anybody, who has to shop at Big & Tall).
- From Frank Isola's blog, a little hint to a potential starting lineup on Tuesday:
As of right now, Harrington will move into the starting lineup along side David Lee while Wilson Chandler will be used as a back-up.
Don't know where that came from, but D'Antoni's really going to bump Chandler for a newcomer that quickly? I don't buy it. The Cali-NY time difference and some loose paperwork may prevent Mobley and Thomas from suiting up, but it's doubtful. We should see all our Knicks.
- The pygmy tarsier is a little furby-looking thing they just found in Indonesia. Check it out.
- I interrupted writing this post to go to two classes, get something to eat, and um....buy tickets to tomorrow night's game. So who said they were going?
That's it for now. I'll be traveling tomorrow, but I'll get the thread up and have your recap of the LIVE Garden action later on. Peace.
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ha!
you really going? i’ll be decked out hard in anthony mason garb. my shirt will say “stingy” with mase’s mug on the belly. that makes you… my friend who is a rabid knick fan… and me… so far there will be three people in madison square garden. thats a lot.
i'm a 6'5" undersized power forward with ridiculous handle and a streaky jumper
in the body of a goofy jew too
Hello
First time posting here. I follow the Knicks quite a bit since I attend DePaul (‘bout to graduate in the Spring) and NYK has two of my boys – Q and WC on the roster. Have to support. I’m a Magic fan, though, since I was born/raised in Orlando … just to clarify!
Anyways, given the 2010 talks, I was thinking in my head what the ideal ‘perfect world’ scenario would be for D’Antoni/Walsh in how they would like the roster to shape up in 2 years … I’d like some of your guys’ thoughts … part of it its contingent on if Lee and/or Robinson can be extended to reasonable contracts (I figured $5 Mill. for Nate and $8 Mill. for Lee). But here goes ..
WC, Gallinari, D. Lee, N. Robinson, 2009 1st Rd. pick, LeBron, Bosh or Amare, Nash, and than another body depending on if Gallinari or their 2009 pick don’t pan out. I’d assume they’ll use the bodies they have now to pawn off for extra picks or good cheap bodies they can use for their run in 2010. Given the fact that D’Antoni prefers an 8-9 man rotation anyway, I think this scenario is entirely plausible.
Thoughts?
They’ll have the money to offer two max contracts, plus with Nash approaching the twilight of his career and the fact that he is miserable under Terry Porter (a hummingbird trapped in a plastic bag – perfect analogy), I think he would be willing to take a Malone-type deal to sign for the veteran minimum and make his last run with D’Antoni.
Senior Writer for DePaul's Scout.com website
Class of 2009 - DePaul University
… I’m aware about the 2010 pick, btw. Hence its exclusion.
Senior Writer for DePaul's Scout.com website
Class of 2009 - DePaul University
i got thoughts up the wazoo
first off i think keeping lee is contingent on jared jeffries playing exceptional ball right out the gate, OR the team’s willingness to part with chandler. we still have an albatross/contract with two guys – eddy curry, and to a lesser extent jerome james. we won’t be able to move james. at all. ever. no matter what. under any circumstances. circumstances including but not limited to flood, drought, earthquake, fire, avalanche mudlside sundae buffet etc. but curry could still be useful for a a number of teams. i feel like any of the texas teams would be able to make good use of him and there has been some noise from charlotte where i think he is a decent fit. also i feel like washington could make good use of a guy like curry. the only problem with curry is that other guys have to pick up the slack for him.
anyway- if jeffries plays well we might be able to make curry seem more palpable. i expect the worst outta that mope i gotta be honest – i think he is an absolute liability – but if jeffries can’t reinforce curry we gotta swallow that dick contract too. and then we have to look to move curry with chandler or lee. there is the possibility of having nate in a curry package, but i think that would be dumb. we have forwards to sacrifice, but not guards – especially not with crawford gone.
mardy collins being traded was probably the funniest thing thats ever happened to the clippers organization. that team has always been laughable to me. and they just got the most comical version of basketball player there is. i can’t wait to see mardy collins get swallowed whole by the entire league when it doesn’t hurt my stomach. thats right, mardy collins no longer hurts my stomach!!! ulcer-free at last!
anyway.. i hope the lineup shakes out like this for opening night 2010…
anyway.. i hope the lineup shakes out like this for opening night 2010…nate robinson, david lee, wilson chandler, vanilla calamari, lebron james, amare stoudemire, steve nash, greg oden, tim hardaway, ron artest, and spree.
somewhat unrelated,
I feel like this team we have NOW after the trades will not be as bad as people think. Call me crazy…
But Sure we will mis Zach’s Scoring, of what, 20 a game give or take. But lee was being limited to a degree, so his increase will make up for that a bit, and at a higher percentage i might add. Same with boards…yea zachgot 15, but Lee will get around 10-12, so minimal damage one would think.
And Jamal might drop 25 a game on low ass percentages (Excluding his anomaly-ridden 45% 3pt rate for the season)
But Nate is a higher percentage Shooter. and gets to the hole as much as crawford. And is better at defense, and gets more steals…he is a worse passer though.
I dunno, I feel like sure on the surface these trades make us worse, but I think people are forgetting about the bad that comes with the good, on the court, of zach and jamal even in Dantoni’s system.
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by Prezs2ReprsntMe on Nov 25, 2008 2:12 AM EST reply actions
i agree for the most part
i don’t think jamal’s 3% was anomaly-ridden though. he was just simply getting a lot more good looks because of the knicks playign team ball. harrington will hopefully help us remember how slow and plodding zach randolph really was. and tim thomas might help that notion too.
we’ll be paper thin and wet up front. but hopefully more active in the passing lanes.
also people that talk about this no layup rule idea (because we don’t have a shot blocker) – they are wrong, we can have a lay up, but we can NOT have a foul, and we need to inbound the ball faster on the made shot.
so i agree with you that i don’t think it will be as huge a drop-off as it looks like. my real concern now is who gets the ball when we need one basket at a time? late in the game do we go to nate? he’s our best offensive player/penetrator and whatnot. also i ’m praying for more flortime for Q – i think he would benefit from some more second quarter minutes.
his 3 pt %
was like 46 %. hes not a better 3 pt shooter than manu, peja, and steve nash lol.
but yea i say give it to Nate and maybe Al Harrington?idunno
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by Prezs2ReprsntMe on Nov 25, 2008 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
eh
i think you’re wrong – he’s never been on a team as good as those guys. not even comparable to be unprecisely exact. he’s not as good a shooter as peja. but he is a better shoorter than ginobili. and nash is the best shooter in the game. a better way to figure good shooting is the free throw % i bet jamal’s is right up there with them.
and al harrington getting the ball at the end of the game is laughable.
antoher way to look at it
since all i wan tto do is waste time at work
is to look at a guy like michael finley. do you think he is a better shooter than jamal? possibly not, but i bet he gets better looks and has a higher % for his career. adn then look at the strength of teams. and then make sure you look at those fucked up shitty dallas teams finley played for when he was a lot like jamal.
i dunno, stop hatin!
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