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Blazers 104, Knicks 97

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Well, you can't fault them for lack of effort. The tired, weary Knicks- only seven of them getting significant minutes- gutted through a close game, but ultimately gave way to a better team in the Blazers. The Blazers had been off all night, but Brandon Roy and the Portland second unit took over late to stifle the worn-down Knicks. Some notes:

- Al Trautwig's pre-game talk started with some choice words: "I would rather stick this pen in my eye than give you another Stephon Marbury update". I feel that.

- MSG's "Mic Check" segment gives us a look at Mike D'Antoni's pre-game speech, and it's basic instruction and motivation regarding defense, teamwork, and whatnot. More than anything, though, it makes me wonder what it would've looked and sounded like when Isiah was coach..."Guys, I was watching Entourage On Demand last night, and I just don't know if Amanda is going to work out as Vince's agent. Anyway, Blazers tonight. Try not to sweat on me a lot. Let's do this."

- Wilson Chandler started the game guarding Brandon Roy, and did pretty nicely staying in front of him.

- The Knicks as a team, in fact, did a decent job stifling Portland's big guns early on. Greg Oden was bricking dunks (to be fair, not the Knicks' doing), and LaMarcus Aldridge got into early foul trouble. On the other end, New York started slowly, but got rolling from outside and attacked the basket as well to build a 14-point run and a 7-point lead at the end of one quarter. Chris Duhon and Tim Thomas in particular made a concerted effort to get into the paint and draw fouls.

- In the second quarter, Duhon sat down and Anthony Roberson stepped in at point. Things ground to a halt, with guys like Thomas and Harrington trying to create their own shots and the Knick lead withering. We soon saw Duhon grumpily unwrapping the mummy tape from his sore back to re-join the action and get the offense rolling again.

- Brandon Roy started to play his game in the second, and when matched up with Quentin Richardson, had his way from the mid-range. Roy's ability to score at will got the Blazers close by halftime, and put the game out of reach in the fourth.

- Upon hearing that Jill Martin would be interviewing MCA at halftime, Mike Breen asked Walt Frazier if he'd heard of the Beastie Boys, to which Clyde replied "the Beastie Boys...yeah they're hot".

- Speaking of the halftime interview, Rev Run popped in to interrupt Martin's "minute" with MCA, and the two campaigned hard for a one-on-one halftime matchup, but didn't get it, alas. That would've been entertaining. The Reverend doesn't look like he could hang.

- Here's a fun stat...Last year the Knicks had 1- ONE- double-digit assist game from any player (Nate Robinson had 10 in a game last January). With tonight's 13 dimes, Chris Duhon already has 5.

- If the Knicks had beaten the Blazers, I would've pointed out two keys. One is that they coaxed Portland into playing their pace. The Blazers shot 44% from the field and jacked up 26 threes on the night. Granted, they were getting open looks, especially when D'Antoni attempted a zone D for a second, and shot a decent percentage (42.3% from three). The other way our guys got an advantage was by completely ignorning Greg Oden when he was more than an arm's length from the basket. Why they couldn't do this with Joel Przybilla, I don't know.

- MSG showed a shot of a guy and his girl in the crowd, with the girl sound asleep on his shoulder. They're at an NBA basketball game! The excitement, the noise...that girl was roofied.

- By the fourth quarter, the deeper and more talented team shone through. Roy and the Spaniards (Spandem?) had their way, and Nate McMIllan went with the reliable Przybilla over Oden to bury the Knicks. Meanwhile, Duhon was desperately trying to keep the guys afloat, but got little to no help from his teammates, who were firmly planted around the three-point arc. It looked like a winnable game, but these things will happen when you're playing 8 guys and don't have a backup point guard or anybody over 6'10''.

- 54 to 36 on the boards is pretty awful, but what more can you expect?

- Cheers to David Lee (19 and 12) and Chris Duhon (23 and 13) for excellent encores to their career performances on Saturday night. Both those two get the crap beaten out of them every night, and Duhon in particular has been a warrior. He repeatedly got to the rim out of sheer will, and missed out on some foul calls late in the game. We may need to pay him more respect pretty soon. Keep it up, Dave and Chris.

Two take-home points from tonight's game:

- It's nice to have a real coach. It really, really is. I forgot what it was like for my team to come out of a timeout and run a successful play going to the basket.

- This is my biggest question of the night. Quentin Richardson got whacked in the face, and nearly looked like he was going to have to come out, leaving Nate McMillan to pick someone off the bench to come in and take the free throws. If you're not familiar, that's the case. When a player is too injured to shoot his own free throws, the opposing team gets to pick someone off the bench to come in and take the shots. Here's my question. What if this had happened during one of the games that Stephon Marbury was suited up, but didn't play, perhaps because he'd refused to do so? The other team would definitely pick him, right? Would that visit to the line not be the tensest, most awkward two free throws ever taken in an NBA game? How would D'Antoni react? How would Steph react? What would happen after the free throws were taken? This has officially moved into the number one slot on my "things I would do if I had a time machine" list. Saving the dinosaurs can wait.

That's all for now, folks. With Nate Robinson and Jared Jeffries on their way back, we'll be at relatively playable strength by the weekend. In the meantime, the Knicks head to Cleveland tomorrow night, for what may be one of the uglier games of the year. Tonight, though, was a gritty and fairly impressive performance, but the under-manned Knicks just couldn't hang with a far superior team.

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That Steph’ situation is a wonderful hypothetical. I see he’s 78.5 % from the line in his career. As such, I’d give him roughly a 0.0 % chance of making the ’throws, and somewhere around a 102.0 % probability of producing pure, comedic gold.

Also, I love the assist stat… Ramon Sessions had 14, 13, 24, and 14 in the last four of games last season.

by Alex Boeder on Dec 3, 2008 12:51 AM EST reply actions  

Regarding Marbury's FTs

If that indeed happened, and he hit the free throws, and then went back to the bench, and never played for the Knicks again, would his stat-line be 1 GP, 2 PPG, 2-2 FT, 0 MPG?

by Ben Q Rock on Dec 3, 2008 1:08 AM EST reply actions  

That's what I'm wondering!

It actually hurts me a little that this never took place.

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by Seth on Dec 3, 2008 8:04 AM EST up reply actions  

do you guys here realize that the Blazers website, Blazers Edge, had about 2,000 posts on today's game thread

There were only 35 on this site. That is a difference of 1,965.

"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."

MT Suit, 11/25/08

by MT Suit on Dec 3, 2008 2:00 AM EST reply actions  

oh yeah

I forgot to mention that a high percentage of those 35 comments were from some random dude named Seth. Gotta feel sorry for the dude.

"I would be in favor of trading LMA and Oden for a reliable starting PF at this point."

MT Suit, 11/25/08

by MT Suit on Dec 3, 2008 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Great recap and a quick note

the 26 threes are not that unusual for the PTB, and they are shooting about 42 percent for the year. The threeball has become their game.

I’m happy that you’e happy with D’Antoni. May he make a Nash of a Duhon and a Stouamire of a Lee.

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Dec 3, 2008 3:06 AM EST reply actions  

Nice breakdown,

Blazers are my first love but the Knicks have to be second. Know you guys lost but its pretty obvious things are changing for the better. Sure would like to have Duhon on our team… Dang that boy can play! Lee isn’t all that bad either. Well best of luck to you guys. Good to see a real team in NY again!

by lethaldose on Dec 3, 2008 3:12 AM EST reply actions  

i saw those lovebirds

no drugs involved. it goes like this:

he is a sucker for love. they have been dating for 6 months and he finally convinced her to do something HE wanted to do. she never gave a shit so she went to sleep, which is also the perfect opportunity to make him feel like she needs his comfort, makes him feel more masculine, she now has gained the upper hand in his realm. he feigns interest in her, because disturbing her sleep is ultimately more costly to the outcome of the game than disturbing say, the blazers. in other words – he’s a pussy, and she enjoys his money chairs.

anyway – really gotta hand it to duhon. he doesn’t quit, and has been the best player we have game in and game out – no question. and i have been trying to find horrible things to say about him for a long time. so it has got to be true: duhon is a good floor leader.

still hope nate gets back and is 100% SOOON! he would have been able to make a couple plays when we needed them because he can force the issue. unlike… say… anthony roberson – who had his best game. whoopdeedoo.

by stingy d on Dec 3, 2008 8:03 AM EST reply actions  

From Blazers Edge

Nice game day review!

I felt that you provided a nice perspective from “the other side” on what happened during the game. There was debate on BE about whether the knicks sucked us into their game and for how long. I’m glad you guys finally have a decent coach. Pretty sure the restructuring will be painful (it was for portland fans when we went through it), but it looks like your team is finally doing something right. After all… you got rid of Zach.

Also… you left me wishing that Richardson DID go out and that Marbury WAS suited up. I would have loved to have seen how that played out.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Dec 3, 2008 12:12 PM EST reply actions  

"the blazers got coaxed into playing the knicks pace"

extremely poor observation. Next time do your homework and you will realize that Portland shoots hella threes.

by Tha Truth on Dec 3, 2008 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

but they didn't want to play at the Knicks' pace

even though they shoot hella threes. – Elgin.

He who life can no longer surprise raises his eyes, beholds a planet unknown. - Peter Gabriel

by 22baylor on Dec 3, 2008 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

threes shmees

i read somewhere that the blazers have the slowest pace and the knicks have the fastest. blazers are 86 possessions per game and knicks are 106. or thereabouts.

by stingy d on Dec 3, 2008 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

check it

Stats don’t always tell the whole story, but “pace”, to me, is about more than shooting threes.

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by Seth on Dec 3, 2008 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

nice wrapup

Very informational and amusing too. I hope the Knicks get D’Antoni some players somehow – he needs 10 to play in that style. I’ll be back – Elgin

He who life can no longer surprise raises his eyes, beholds a planet unknown. - Peter Gabriel

by 22baylor on Dec 3, 2008 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

nah

he just needs 8 guys that are worth playing plus someone who is actually prepared to get some spot work banging hecka 3’s in no time flat.

by stingy d on Dec 3, 2008 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Roy and the Spaniards (Spandem?)

been trying to get the nickname “Spanish AIR-mada” to stick ,when referring to Sergio and Rudy

tag, you’re it…keep it moving

by two4larue on Dec 3, 2008 4:25 PM EST reply actions  

NO NO NO - SPANDEM!!!

you hit it with Spandem. I will not rest until it is so. No Air-mada, Spanish Connection nonsense

SPANDEM

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Dec 4, 2008 5:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice recap, good writing.

"Now with a non-provocative footer!"

by timbo on Dec 3, 2008 5:16 PM EST reply actions  

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