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Headlines like this make me a little sick. This has come up before, but the fact that people who write for a living and have a press pass to games can get away with that kind of slander really bugs me. I guess I'd like to take this opportunity to use the Post as an example. I've certainly been guilty of taking shots at players, Knicks and otherwise, so this goes as a lesson mainly for myself. Let us all remember that the people we're talking about are human beings, many with families and young kids. Some would argue that basketball players get paid to perform and be seen, and thus invite criticism. This is absolutely the case, and I welcome any and all comments on what a player does. Zach Randolph's ball-hogging, Jared Jeffries' jump shot, and Malik Rose's chair-pulling are all ripe for shit-talking. The line is drawn when we're attacking what a player is. It's a line that's certainly been crossed on this blog. We've all made fat jokes before, and there are probably more to come. Some of this is regrettable, but I like to think that we maintain a light enough mood here (which is an accomplishment, given the circumstances), to get away with saying some stuff in jest. I'd just like to make sure that things here stay playful and in decent taste, and, most importantly, that we always remember we're talking about real people.

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it's just challenging
to not totally rip a guy who cost the team two first round picks (three if you count sweetney...ugh), is lazy and plays like he doesn't give a shit.

that being said, i do feel bad that he was robbed and had heart problems, so i'll steer away from getting into that.

his years here have been a disaster and the trade to bring him here further set the knicks back 5-7 years.  i never root for players to get hurt but i would be lying to you if i said i didn't smile when i saw that he was out for the season.

Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!

by Anthony Masons Haircut on Mar 15, 2008 2:44 PM EDT   0 recs

agreed completely
but i think we can agree that cruel shots at his weight- a very personal matter- are in bad taste. especially when they're part of a terrible play on words.
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by Seth on Mar 15, 2008 3:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

cruel shots? In bad taste? Terrible play on words?
Paging Marc Berman and Peter Vescey, please pick up on the courtesy line...

Vescey and Berman are the masters of this crap. I honestly consider the New York Post the National Enquirer of newspapers. Whether it be the false rumors that are called "columns" (Peter Vescey), or the childish whining that is called "reporting" (Marc Berman), it makes The Daily News look like USA Today.

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by JoshL on Mar 17, 2008 1:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

agree with seth
that headline by the Post is disgraceful. I feel like I probably can't say anything, being the guy who does the "Matt Barnes smokes crack" thing, although Matt Barnes does not smoke crack, and that is something about which I feel guilty, but, I am not the New York Post.

That being said, last week, when I was at the Knicks-Pistons game, and my friend who is friends with Renaldo Balkman took me into the players area after the game, I passed Eddy Curry wearing a suit, and I was literally awestruck by the size of Eddy Curry's ass. Upon standing right next to him, watching him talk to some other guy, I didn't think "wow, Eddy Curry is out of shape" or "Eddy Curry needs to lose some weight", but his ass protrudes from his body. I walked behind him, and I almost bumped into it. Eddy Curry has an enormous ass.

by Barnesgasm on Mar 15, 2008 4:20 PM EDT   0 recs

thats the problem with the Post
it's more tabloid than actual news.  the daily news sensationalizes stuff as well but they rarely go as over-the-top.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!

by Anthony Masons Haircut on Mar 15, 2008 6:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Part of eddy curry's job
is to be in NBA shape. He is a professional athlete, is he not? Watching Curry drudgingly run up and down the floor and ALWAYS being out-quicked by the opposing big man down low are signs that he is not physically conditioned to compete in this league.

So, yes Seth, we do have a right to comment on an otherwise very personal issue - a human being's weight - when it pertains to a professional athlete. I disagree with you on that point.

With that being said, I do agree that the Post's headline was just stupid. It wasn't even funny.

But does Eddy Curry or his family really care what the NY Post thinks of him anyway?

I don't think they crossed personal boundaries with the remark, but I think it is remarkable(get it?) that that headline made it to press - even for the Post. I will admit that I subscribe to the Post, and everyday I read the most sensational garbage with the most ridiculous headlines. Ever read the Weird but True page, Page Six?? People read the Post because its the Post, if they wanted to read bland, straight to the story reporting, theyd read the Times.

But I do like when Peter Vescey refers to Curry as Snacks. Plus, the Post reports on the Knicks everyday - the Daily News and Newsday do not cover them as consistently.

I didn't mean to sound too argumentative, guys. I am a frequent reader of P&T but I don't always post or comment unless I think I have something to contribute that wasn't already covered. Keep up the good work Seth!

by rickybrunson on Mar 17, 2008 12:15 AM EDT   0 recs

fair enough
You make a good point, and we'll agree to disagree. Also, I'd like to say that I wasn't suggesting any sort of censorship on my part here. As long as you're creative, funny, and in good taste about things, it's all good.
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by Seth on Mar 17, 2008 10:41 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Exactly
Tasteful humor CAN be done right, it's just that the Post tends to go too lowbrow with its humor.
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by JoshL on Mar 17, 2008 1:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Fair enough
And I must admit that Vescey is VERY entertaining in the "crazy old man sportsjournalist" way, but I still think the paper is dumn trash. But hey, if everything else is sold out when you go get the morning paper, what choice do you have?
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by JoshL on Mar 17, 2008 1:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

See, but here's the thing
Bloggers aren't getting paid for what they do. This is why the Blogger can get away with saying some things that are considered tasteless. Jay Greenberg, the writer of the article in question, is being PAID to write about sports. And this is why we as bloggers find it so pathetic. First of all, like rickybrunson said, it wasn't even that funny, let alone was it even a clever play on words. Second, it's just tasteless. You're being paid to do your job, professional sports reporters are supposed to be PAID to report the sports in a courteous non-biased manner. Titles like "FAT'S ALL, FOLKS!" are best kept with the blogspot bloggers, who are never going to get paid for their work, and only write for fun or leisure. It's simple logic, you're a paid sports reporter/journalist. You have the right to bitch, but you do not have the right to take cheap pot shots like that. Leave that in a blog. That's like Marc Berman blog title material.
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by JoshL on Mar 17, 2008 1:12 PM EDT   0 recs

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