Mock Mongering: 6/6/08
by Seth on Jun 6, 2008 3:26 PM EDT
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PrintIt's been two weeks since we last looked at what the mocks were predicting for our Knicks. Let's take another survey of the same sites:
Ridiculous Upside: Danilo Gallinari (not updated)
MyNBADraft: Eric Gordon
NBADraft.net: Anthony Randolph
Draft Express: O.J. Mayo
Hoops Hype: O.J. Mayo
Chad Ford: D.J. Augustin
CollegeHoopsNet: Eric Gordon
Inside Hoops: Danilo Gallinari
Mostly unchanged, although we've got two new names in the mix. NBADraft.net has both Bayless and Mayo off the board, with the Knicks springing for LSU's Anthony Randolph over other frontcourt prospects like Danilo Gallinari and Joe Alexander. Meanwhile, the most interesting change is from Chad Ford. Ford's sources indicate that D'Antoni is sour on Gallinari, and that the Knicks' point guard void might be filled by D.J. Augustin of Texas. That's the first I've heard of Augustin being taken that high, and it's from a guy who, no matter what you think of him, is paid to keep an eye on these matters. Intriguing.
Meanwhile, from Draft Express, we get rumors of the Knicks trading Zach Randolph and the 6th pick down to Philadelphia in exchange for the 16th pick and Reggie Evans' smaller (albeit still lengthy) contract. Personally, I think it'd take more than a little cash for the Knicks to downgrade on talent and potential in a single trade. 16 is too far a fall from 6 and Evans is too far a fall from Randolph. Trading down is a worthwhile prospect to explore, but not that far. I'm interested to hear how the rest of you feel about that one.
I'm out of town over the weekend (and hitting up Game 2 in Boston on Sunday, my first playoff game ever. I choose my friends well.), but I'll be back Monday to bring some more pre-draft updates and player profiles. Stay cool.
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as much as the 16th pick is WAY diff from the 6th…
if we dont get Mayo, i dont see whats wrong with that trade. Evans contract also stinks, but WE NEED TO GET RID OF ZBO!!!! theres no pretty way to do it, were not ognna pull off some laker-gasol-esque highway robbery in a deal because we are NOT in a position of leverage. The consequence for assemblying a shitty roster with no good contracts is that to get rid of the players, u can’t get 100 percent value…ya kno?
that said…the 16th pick does kinda suck lol
waaaay 2 serious about the yanks and knicks? maybe... oh well
by Prezs2ReprsntMe on Jun 7, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply actions
it seems
as if 16 is juuuust a few numbers too low. if the pick were something like 12th, i’d have absolutely no problem with the deal because it’d mean we’d probably get a look at either augustin, westbrook, or both, but by the 16th my guess is they’re already snatched up.
if we end up trading down at all, i’d hope it’d be for a spot that puts us in contention for one of those two young point guards.
Is there
a general consensus on which of these two young pg’s is going to go first? From everything I’ve looked at, they have them mixed and matched. But what I can say from watching each and reading up on each is that Augustin is more of a homerun type and a fantastic floor leader, while Westbrook has the potential to become an elite defender at the NBA level.
I guess it just becomes opinion as to which one to take (should the opportunity arise), but I think one important point that nobody seems to be picking up on is that Westbrook played and thrived in LA, which Augustin played down at Texas. NYC is the biggest spotlight of them all; which player would be more likely to thrive in it?
But anyway, yeah, 16 is too late.
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by solanumbrella on Jun 8, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
really hoping Mayo is taken before 6
gotta go with Bayless if he’s available, or Gallinari or Alexander if he isn’t
i think that would be a nice trade.
that’s just addition by subtraction (giving up ZBO). He needs to be off the roster at all costs. And in this draft, the 16th pick is almost as valuable as the 6th. The three, four “for real” players in this draft are Rose, Beasley, Mayo, and Bayless. They’re not falling to 6. So you’re not going to get one of the “sure things” of this draft. At the 6th pick, you’re going to end up with Anthony Randolph, Eric Gordon, maybe Westbrook. They’re all good players; Anthony’s got potential but real raw, Gordon’s a better Ben Gordon, and Westbrook could be an elite NBA defender. But you’re not going to get an immediate impact player who has star quality at that 6th spot. And this is a deep draft. You can still get a player who can contribute and be a good NBA player at the 16th spot.
At the 16th spot, I’d like the Knicks taking a Joe Alexander (if he’s still around), Brandon Rush, or even Chase Budinger.
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