Peace And Humptyness For Denver
Update: The deal is done. Balkman for Jones, Green, and a second round draft pick in 2010. Both players are expected to be cut. Just ignore the speculative parts of the post below. Farewell post for a P&T favorite coming later tonight or tomorrow morning. Prepare your eulogies.
Time to paint this over, eh?
You know it's summertime when you start racking up the post titles ending in question marks. Today's rumor comes from Ken Berger at Newsday, who's got reason to believe that the Knicks have a different way of cutting payroll and roster spots than we previously expected.
The Knicks and Nuggets are discussing a trade that would send 2006 first-round pick Renaldo Balkman to Denver for point guard Taurean Green and small forward Bobby Jones, an NBA front-office source told Newsday last night.
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The deal was proposed late last week and is being discussed internally by both clubs, the front-office official familiar with the situation said. If the two-for-one deal goes through, it would leave the Knicks with 17 players under contract, although Green and Jones - who have non-guaranteed contracts - expect to be waived. It would get the Knicks back to the 15-player roster limit and save them Balkman's $1.32 million against the salary cap.
First of all, I would hate to see Balkman go. He's obviously one of my favorite Knicks for several obvious reasons. Humpty's also been nothing short of a hard worker and a great teammate since he's been here. That said, I understand that Coach D'Antoni favors forwards who bring something to the table offensively, particularly from distance. For his career, Balkman is under 20% from three and under 50% from the line, which gives you a little sense of why he might be out the door. Also, with Gallinari, Richardson, and Chandler on the roster, Renaldo just might not have what it takes to earn minutes at the 3 spot.
If this deal were to go down, I'd hope we'd at least give Bobby Jones a shot at training camp. He's a defensive stopper in the ilk of Balkman, but may bring a little more to the table offensively and thereby make a career for himself in D'Antoni's system. Then again, the Knicks may already have plans like those for Wilson Chandler. If both Jones and Green were cut, that would cut the roster back down to 15, meaning there'd be room for a couple of the undesirables we'd been discussing, including Collins, Big Snacks...and Marbury. Interesting.
Anyway, as heartbroken as I would be to see Humpty go, this deal could make some fiscal sense, particularly if D'Antoni doesn't see Balkman as having a role in the new scheme. Renaldo might find Denver a better fit as well, if you know what I'm saying. More on this as a it emerges.
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Nugs Fan Here
Obviously I’m hoping that this deal is true. Balkman will fill our Najera role that is now vacant.
As for Jones and Green, here’s a little info. I was always a big fan of Jones. I was bummed when we cut him, but he wasn’t getting PT (which no one could figure out). I was thrilled when we brought him back, but he didn’t step up in Summer League ball like we hoped. At that point, we signed Dahntay Jones and it was obvious Bobby was on the way out. His contract is non-guaranteed now, but it becomes guaranteed on August 15th, so you guys are going to have to make a decision on him pretty quickly. As for Taurean Green—he was horrid in the summer. Sucks because I was hoping he could have been the young point that the Nugs could groom. His contract is guaranteed on August 1st, so an even quicker decision is expected there.
The artist formerly known as Nuggets4.
by JLucas4092 on Jul 28, 2008 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My biggest problem...
...my biggest problem with this proposed deal is that we get nothing in return. Ken Berger suggests that both players will be waived, meaning we give Renaldo away for nothing. If so, why not just waive him outright? His salary number is only on the books through the end of the year anyway (unless the Knicks exercise their option for him next season).
At the very least, the Knicks should be able to land a second-round pick in a future draft (2010), or something. Maybe even a lottery-protected number pick down the line. I just don’t get why they are trading for nothing, when they can get the same effect by waiving him. Is Donnie Walsh just trying to make friends with the Nuggets?
by stopmikelupica on Jul 28, 2008 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would imagine
that a future 2nd is involved in the deal. I consider this similar to the JR Smith deal the Nugs did a few years ago where we sent Eisley (expiring, non-guaranteed contract) and a future 2nd to Chicago for JR.
The artist formerly known as Nuggets4.
by JLucas4092 on Jul 28, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Noooooooo!!!
Now I’ve completely lost my identity! This better be a precursor to some other obviously useful deal!
by HUSTLE HARDER on Jul 28, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'd rather
we dumped jared jeffries on some unsuspecting team for a pile of leaves. renaldo is a much less suspect shooter than jeffires and they play the same sort of thing whatever it is jeffries is pretending to do. what is wrong with jeffries top lip? does he chew on it nervously?
by stingy d on Jul 28, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Deal Is Official
Balkman and Cash Considerations for Green, Jones and a 2010 2nd round pick.
http://www.nba.com/nuggets/news/nugs_acquire_balkman_072808.html
The artist formerly known as Nuggets4.
by JLucas4092 on Jul 28, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is a gigantic crock of motherfucking bullshit.
we gain practically nothing – we’re definitely cutting Jones and Green and we only save 1.32 million – and we lose Renaldo Balkman.
for the record, my friend-who-is-friends-with-renaldo balkman is taking this pretty hard.
by Barnesgasm on Jul 28, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well
He can get lifted easier in Denver.
You all did love him once. - The New York Knicks.
by THEWILLY on Jul 28, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not trying to sound melodramatic, but...
This is possibly the worst news I’ve ever heard. Renaldo has easily been my favorite Knick over the past two seasons and he is the only basketball player who has caused me to buy a shirt online. I feel you, Barnesgasm (No homo), this is destroying me on the inside. To look at the silver lining on this cloud of purple sticky, he may get burn in Denver, seeing as they don’t have anyone who has ever played defense on their team, anymore. Also, this makes his odds of becoming an eventual Defensive Player of the Year skyrocket (See: Camby, Marcus).
"I'll probably go get lifted right now with Greg. Hey, and come back tomorrow and try to get another win."
-Renaldo
by solanumbrella on Jul 28, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just don't get why
Jerome James, Jared Jeffries and Mardy Collins are on the roster, while we trade Balkman for literally nothing.
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by Dachs on Jul 29, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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