Chong in New York?

by Seth on Aug 13, 2008 7:07 PM EDT in News

I try not to give fresh rumors too much attention, but I particularly like this one. From Tommy Dee at The Knicks Blog, talk on the Nets side of a New York-New Jersey deal of Nate Robinson for Sean "Chong" Williams. Though this is the only place I've heard the rumors, I'd be very interested to see if this goes anywhere. As much as I love Nate Robinson, he's a surplus guard who might not get to shine with Chris Duhon and Anthony Roberson around. Meanwhile, Williams just might make sense. Says Dee:

Attitude is something that the Knicks want nothing to do with, of course, and Williams is not a perimeter threat, something that Mike D’Antoni loves in his big men. But he can finish in transition as well as keep possessions alive with his active offensive rebounding ability.

His potential and athleticism, along with his defensive prowess, would fit a huge need for the Knicks. Should Eddy Curry show up out of shape and get under the skin of D’Antoni, a frontcourt rotation of Williams, Zach Randolph (who’s not going to Memphis) and David Lee, would be an instant upgrade.

I'm looking for one thing, and one thing only. Well, no. Two things. My original thought was that the Knicks need some damn shot blocking. Chong's swatting ability would certainly be a defensive upgrade over the low-altitude loafing of Eddy Curry and Zach Randolph. The second thing that I just thought of is that the addition of Williams would be a nice step towards replacing the entertainment value of Renaldo Balkman. While Humpty was a lovable space cadet who we assumed to be a stoner, Williams is a lovable space cadet who is, in fact, a stoner. If this source of Dee's knows what he's talking about, it's time for Donnie Walsh to give the Nets a call.

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i disagree

i think duhon is the surplus guard. and wilson chandler will do what humpty did albeit less effectively on d and 5x as effective on o. nate will catch wreck this year if we would just give him a freakin chance (god forbid the more talented shroter player got a chance right?)….

duhon is grody

by stingy d on Aug 14, 2008 10:50 AM EDT 0 recs

I don't know

what to think of this. Nate has always been pretty good for the Knicks in limited minutes, and now he has an offensive system that would be perfect for him. Plus he was made to play in New York. However, Williams graduated from Boston College with a double-major: Shot-blocking and Blunt-puffing.

Our biggest weakness over the past couple of seasons was defending the rim. It would be nice to see that weakness addressed somehow.

"I'll probably go get lifted right now with Greg. Hey, and come back tomorrow and try to get another win."

-Renaldo

by solanumbrella on Aug 14, 2008 12:57 PM EDT 0 recs

we got talent

if nothing else, d’antoni should help everybody on the team display their abilities in a good light. i have to hope for patience here because if you give it enough time, walsh and them might find it easier to move a slug like zach randolph for a gifted shotblocker and maybe more.

nate was drafter by pheonix, and traded to ny. there is no reason to think d’antoni doesn’t like his game. besides, at the end of the coming year (or possibly before that) marbury is gone. and then we would have the albatross twins and sean williams up front with duhon and roberson holding down the point… neither of those palookas can create their own shot to save their lives. that sounds awful- jamal crawford would have to bail those suckers out all year, and then i would have to listen to a thousand heads complain that crawford sucks.

just keep the upstanding citizen / talented guard who can thrive. sean williams could be gotten for cheaper…

we bought guards in bulk, lets sell some dimes

by stingy d on Aug 14, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

Yeah, actually

the more I think about it, an equally large problem for us last season was assists, and getting rid of Nate certainly could not HELP that problem. So I guess selling some assists to buy some blocked shots would be like selling your car for gas money.

"I'll probably go get lifted right now with Greg. Hey, and come back tomorrow and try to get another win."

-Renaldo

by solanumbrella on Aug 14, 2008 7:30 PM EDT 0 recs

i think it would be GREAT

think about it from a more than short term view:

What , really, is the knicks goal this year? When it comes down to it, it’s development of their few hopeful players like D-Lee, Nate, Chandler, etc. That and, lets not beat around the bush, a good fuckin draft pick. No point hiding it. I don’t think it’s a negative attitude, i dont think we should purposely tank and have no hope, but we WILL be in the high lottery.

That being said, 3 years down the line, whats more useful—nate’s energy and shooting but size disadvantage or Sean Williams energy and Defense but shooting disadvantage? Williams fits the mold of some role players who are very successful in their limited roles in the nba, like dalembert, or tyson chandler ( i kno thats a bit of a stretch). Nate? What is he gonna be, tops, earl boykins in his prime? plus dunks?

So if we got williams , we would give up one of our mediocre PGs, and probably have a SLIGHT dip in productio nfrom the spot, thus making our team worse, thus…a better draft pick? In the draft where it’s projected to have AT LEAST 6 quality PGs in the first round, at least 3 in the lottery? If the knicks get one of the 10 worst records, they have a great chance to get a better PG than any we have on the roster, long-term perspective wise. The PG spot in the long run is improved with or without Nate, so might as well go for the Defense.

all in all, if this rumor isnt true, motherfuck unsubstantiated rumors with a broken corona bottle cuz i put too much thought into this would be trade.

waaaay 2 serious about the yanks and knicks? maybe... oh well

by Prezs2ReprsntMe on Aug 15, 2008 12:23 AM EDT 0 recs

YO!

you’re acting like the knicks are not going to win 45 games this year. i will have a good chuckle laughing at you. i bet you think malik rose was a veteran stalwart who got it done.

by stingy d on Aug 15, 2008 6:59 AM EDT up 0 recs

i really don’t get your logic. I was implying that that the knicks would be one of the worst 6 or 7 teams, did i say something stupid?

you think they ARE gonna win 45 games?

And what did I say to make you beleive I don’t know that malik rose was garbage? There’s never any stupid arguments on this site and it’s one of the best things about it, so I’m not gonna get into nothin after the post

waaaay 2 serious about the yanks and knicks? maybe... oh well

by Prezs2ReprsntMe on Aug 15, 2008 11:51 AM EDT 0 recs

oh

nah, i’m just being silly mostly. but i do actualy think they will be better than the bottom feeders. i would even go so far as to bet they win 33 or more games.

furthermore there will be two (count em 2) six-game win streaks. 6-game win streaks.

i’m a fanatknick
and a knudknick

by stingy d on Aug 15, 2008 2:26 PM EDT 0 recs