Sixers 93, Knicks 85
Alright, listen. Many a panty is going to be bunched by tomorrow morning over what, on paper, was a piss-poor outing by these preseason Knicks. Don't get me wrong- the shooting was every bit as horrid as it looks in the boxscore (31% from the field, 7-41 from downtown). The 55-44 rebounding discrepancy, too, was as striking on TV as it is on paper. Some of the offensive struggles were the result of sloppiness and selfishness. Some of those lost rebounds were due to inadequate effort. In my opinion, though, it was mostly preseason noise: poor execution and lineup tinkering. 7-41 three-point attempts is an obscene number, but I can say as an eyewitness that many of those 34 misses were on wide-open looks. The Knicks are not 17% long-range shooters. Meanwhile, Coach D'Antoni's still toying with David Lee at the 5, which simply doesn't work against decent centers (Dalembert tonight, Perkins and Lopez before him). A loss is a loss, and tonight's was an ugly one, but the sky isn't falling. Not just yet. Let's run through some notes from the evening, after the jump.
- Just to flesh out that glaring 7-41 downtown number, I'll share the following: 41 attempts would be a Knicks record if tonight's game counted. No Knick hit more than a third of their threes. Danilo Gallinari was 1-4. Nate Robinson was 0-5. Al Harrington was 1-8. Jared Jeffries was 1-6. Wilson Chandler was 2-10 (!). Suffice to say that every single one of those gentlemen could have and should have put the ball on the floor for a change. Like I mentioned, though, not a single one of those players is that bad a shooter. Sometimes the bricks just align themselves, eh? Better now than when it counts.
- New game: During the pre-game show, watch Walt Frazier while Mike Breen is talking. He zones OUT. What's Clyde thinking about? One can only guess.
- Clyde's word for the Knicks' first half against the Nets the other night? "Ignominious". True that.
- Not big on white headbands.
- I'm gonna pin some of those unnecessary threes on a lack of point guard presence. Chris Duhon brought the ball up whenever he was on the floor, but gave it away early and often. He'd try the pick-and-roll with Lee, get denied (kudos to the Sixers for that), then kick the ball to the perimeter and peace out for the rest of the play. If those threes fell, Du'd be looking at double-digit assists and maybe even a win. But they didn't, and it's on Chris to find another option.
- Time to talk defense. The starting five had trouble early, with Elton Brand trouncing all challengers and the other Sixers repeatedly cherry-picking off of rebounds for easy scores. For the middle two quarters, though, things looked sharp. The Knicks kept the game as a whole close because of an ungodly 28 forced turnovers, many of which came during that middle stretch of excellent switching and doubling, quick hands, and even a blocked shot or two. I'll say again that a Nate Robinson/Toney Douglas defensive backcourt makes opposing guards want their mommies. The two gamble a lot, but are athletic enough to wreak havoc and break plays in a heartbeat. If only Nate would get over screens reliably, it'd be perfect.
- Darko Milicic has been passing much better than one would expect. He's also working on what could one day be a goatee of unparalleled majesty.
- I should also mention that Darko snaggled a steal near halfcourt and took it coast-to-coast for a dunk. That was special.
- Gallo still hasn't found the touch (though he looked more natural tonight than in the previous two games), and I'd love to see him react a little faster after he catches a pass. Danilo's a bit of a ball-stopper, and it seems like everybody quits cutting once he's got the rock. On the flipside, this draws a lot of defensive three-second violations.
- One thing I do like: Gallinari as the point man when Nate's on the floor. I don't know if it's in the playbook, but there have been instances in which Gallo has the ball at the top of the arc and Nate streaks across the lane for a quick catch and finish. The big man's height and the little man's quickness make for a tough cover.
- Like half the available AP photos for this game are of dumbfounded referees. Just saying.
- In the second quarter, Jared Jeffries was hounding Elton Brand after a board and caught a Brand elbow right in his eye hole. After a moment or two of googly-eyed stupor, Jared came to his senses and put his face in Elton's face, which is a classic basketball move that I've never quite understood. I've wanted to fight people before, but have never felt the need to express that by eskimo kissing them. Anyway, Jared (now bleeding, by the way) expressed his displeasure, Elton stood his ground, the two got separated, Jared kept yapping, Elton said "you're soft", and the two parted ways. They were shown reconciling after halftime. I'm sure there's a lesson to be learned somewhere in there, but I missed it. Jared got four stitches. No word on what flavor lollipop he chose, although I'd bet my wallet it was grape.
- Al Harrington's chair-pulling is getting trickier by the game. I'm not gonna invoke the name of the chairmaster himself just yet, but keep an eye on that one.
- I lumped him in with the rest of the bricklayers before, but Wilson Chandler simply cannot shoot 2-10 from downtown in a professional basketball game, especially when at least three of those shots didn't strike rim. Can't happen.
- I managed to convince my housemate first that #20 on the Sixers was named "Merry Christmas", then admitted I was kidding and told him it was "Jesus Christmas". Yes, I choose my friends wisely. It's Dionte, by the way.
- When Mike D'Antoni says "ball movement" it sounds like "bowel movement". Wait...maybe he was saying bowel movement. Not sure how more of that would improve the team's field goal percentage, but whatever. I'm not the coach.
- One of the Garden security guards looks a bit like Bunk Moreland.
- Speaking of lookalikes:
No?
Anyway, I'm gonna pin this one on bad matchups and fluky inaccuracy from the field for now. It's no fun to get all grumpy in mid-October. Plus, it's bedtime for me. Next exhibition game is on Friday against (ugh) the Nets. MTA is after that, which should be fun. Talk to y'all tomorrow. Love.
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last night's game made my eyes hurt
There is no heart in this team and I do not see one leader amongst themselves.
Jeffries
I beg to differ with your contention about Jeffries not being a bad shooter. IMO he’s a bad shooter.
Is it time
to just start Douglas and Nate already? Also, is it time to trade Harrington to the T-wolves for Mark Blount ? Also, is it just time to start Darko at center already?
the 76er
own us in general i dont beleive we won a game vs them last year.
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by Prezs2ReprsntMe on Oct 14, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions
while it would have been nice
to steal a preseason game agaist two probable playoff teams. I wasnt holding my breath.
I agree that shots will start falling, but to think its going to be a great season is a pipe dream.
I mean, the BEST we are hoping for is to fight for the 8th seed right? What even gets the 8th spot these days? a .400 record? That does not equal a team that comes right out of the gate playing great. The Celts and 76ers are ready to go. They are teams built to win this year. They SHOULD beat us badly in the preseason…
you know… the preseason…
the time when we are seeing what we have, trying new thing, teaching players about the system… because we are a team that is rebuilding. Not a team that is built to win now.
Not time to get down. Appreciate Darkos facial hair and move on.
my thoughts exactly
i’m excited about the start of the season as always, but deep down i know that this is basically a throw-away- year. it sounds lame and cliche, but this season really isn’t about wins and losses. let’s face it, this is going to be a 25-30 win team. if that’s good enough to stay in contention for the #8 seed, cool – but i’m not holding my breath.
i’ll be interested to see if Lee and Nate end up being worth the Knicks’ extending them this summer, progress from Hill and WWTDD, and numerous Darko sightings.
if there’s one thing to take from last night’s loss, it’s that Jared Jeffries should never shoot three-pointers, much less six fucking times. even with a shorter three-point line at IU, i screamed the same thing from the stands.
by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Oct 15, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Quick Thoughts
(1) David Lee’s jumper was as ugly as Tyrone Hill last night. [shudder]
(2) The biggest effect Coach Pringles is going to have on Darko is likely to be in how to properly grow a mustache. Darko looked Smits sluggish yesterday.
(3) Al Harrington doesn’t even consider passing once he starts dribbling.
(4) Hughes seems to be perpetually wide-eyed. I think he’s always surprised.
(5) Does anyone else have a hard time differentiating Darko and Gallo from the high camera angle? One of them needs to change hairstyle.
(6) Jeffries really played well last night. Very active on both sides of the ball. (Yes, I know a ball is round and has no sides.) I’m pretty sure he did the Eskimo kiss thing on Brand because he wanted to rub his blood on him, Superbad-style.
"Ariza on Mobley, trying to put some chillin on his thrillin"
"Vexing D, makes you hurry, makes you worry"
by Serious Garbage Time on Oct 14, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions
Darko
I’m really encouraged my Darko’s play. For some reason the box score lists him with one blocked shot, but I watched the game and I’m pretty sure he had three, and he definitely altered some other shots as well. He threw some nice passes as well.
Screw the 17% from 3pt shooting, and screw the final score. The Knicks blocked 7 shots last night!
Free Darko!!! and free his facial hair too!!!
by StarksMiddleFinger on Oct 14, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions
Random, Uncoordinated Thoughts
In some regards, we looked awful. Yet in others, I came away encouraged.
Gbaked, I would agree with your perspective on our preseason woes. The players on Boston know each other on the court, have experience playing within Doc’s system, and are comprised mostly of established veterans. Philly, we must remember, was a Hedo buzzer-beater away from knocking off Orlando (the team that represented the East in the Finals). Then add Elton Brand to the mix, along with one more year of experience for their uber-talented wings. This is a team that should be disappointed if they finish lower than 6th in the East. A week ago we were praying to make a run at the 8th seed. Why are we in fits that they beat us in a preseason game, a preseason game where we shot 30% from the field (not gonna happen again IMO)?
Our roster is still fleshing itself out in terms of rotations and playing time, and there are many young guys who need preseason games to get going. But, I am starting to worry about Gallo and Hill. I think Gallo is feeling the pressure that has been placed on him by management, the fans, and those MSG commercials saying “See What He’ll Do”. This is not a good thing, look what it did to Darko. We want this kid eager to have the ball in his hands, not shittting a brick when he touches leather. Also, it looks like he has a slightly awkward gait – maybe a result of his surgery? Hill on the other hand just looks awful. It’s gonna be a longgggg time before he can contribute.
Finally, does anyone agree with me that Lee looks lazy,out of shape, and hesitant to do any of the things that made us fall in love with him initially?
don't agree about Lee
maybe its me, but i think as a whole, the knicks are just getting a feel for things. Thats what preason is for. I predict much more effort and better shooting once the games actually count.
We keep having this argument on here guys. A bunch of us say be patient, we are gonna suck. Course then the game is played and we blow… and we are quick to kinda jump on the many many minor things that attribute to the overall crappy play.
Its gonna be a long season, guys. There will be some bright spots, sure, but expect plenty more times when you just want to roll your eyes.
of course…. if that doesn’t happen, then thats the overachieving we are hoping for.
by Chris Child's Fist on Oct 16, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions

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