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I know that there's "no such thing as a moral victory" and whatnot, but I'm gonna go ahead and take the moral victory on this one. For the most part, this game was the usual fare: a truly horrid start followed by a spirited comeback that fell just short. We've seen that before. There were a couple elements of this one, though, that made it stand out. The primary one, as you might have heard, was the performance of a particular "precocious neophyte".

Yes, for perhaps the first time in his young career, Toney Douglas did what Toney Douglas do. It wasn't a revelation, really. Toney played 23 minutes of steady, determined basketball, and ultimately took the fall for a heartbreaking loss. The contrast, though, between TD and Chris Duhon was a sight to be seen. I know Chris means well, but he's been playing like he doesn't care. Most of us picked up on it, and I think Mike D'Antoni finally gave into the suspicion as well. He benched Du for the entire fourth quarter and handed the keys to Pretty Toney, who very nearly won the game by his damn self. Throughout the evening, but particularly in the fourth quarter, Douglas showed his full arsenal- three-point bombs, pull-up twos, and speedy drives to the rim. Though Toney threw away more turnovers (2) than assists (1), it was immediately evident that his ability and willingness to score prevented the D from sagging and made for many more passing opportunities. Should he continue to score so successfully, the pick-and-roll options and team-wide ball movement should thrive in turn. This isn't even close to Toney Douglas's team yet, but he made it very clear that he deserves a chance at taking the reins. His playing the full fourth quarter suggests that D'Antoni is fully willing to grant him that chance. As for that last shot, one more dribble and he could have splashed a nice running floater off the correct leg. Toney's a rookie, though. These things happen. If he keeps up this nerve, I'd be more than happy to watch Toney Douglas learn on the fly. DWTDD.

The rest of your game notes are after the jump...

Star-divide

- This was mentioned in the comments, and it's really a splendid thought. I see two ways to deal with the Knicks' tendency to fall behind early then storm back late. One would be to make them play two or three quarters of five-on-five before the game starts so they're in endgame mode by the time tip-off rolls around. Another would simply be to change the scoreboard to indicate that they're down 18 in the fourth quarter from the outset. You could totally pull that off, at least at home.

- I asked my team of trained genius badgers to run some numbers and found the following: The Knicks have lost every first quarter except for two (vs. Indiana and New Orleans). Through 8 games, the average first quarter margin is -9.4. Meanwhile, the Knicks have won every fourth quarter except for one (against Indiana), with an average margin of +7.6. That just goes to show that my first bullet point is no joke. The Knicks have really clicked in fourth quarters, but never enough to crack the eggs they collectively lay in first quarters. Part of this is that the opposition gets sloppy in the waning moments of a blowout, but part of it is significantly better New York basketball. Like I said, start each game with a fourth quarter and the Knicks would be a pretty solid team.

- Danilo Gallinari had a quiet night. His outside shots weren't really in rhythm, and he didn't get nearly as many touches as one would hope. It's tough for a youngster to demand the ball on offense, but I'd rather watch Gallo go iso for 20 seconds than see most anyone else try and create offense. Danilo also had two fantastic blocks (he's better at that than I expected) and was seen pounding his signature dish- scaloppini di Gallo- with Tina Cervasio in a pre-game feature. It's gnocchi with veal, if you're curious. I would love some right now.

- The presence of both Carlos Boozer and Ronnie Brewer nearly made Walt Frazier's head explode. By the end of the game, I'm pretty sure he resorted to calling both of them "Broozum".

- One thing that distinguished tonight's loss from every other loss was that the Knicks got back into it with zone defense. D'Antoni saw the opportunity to create turnovers and exploit Utah's lack of shooters by employing a 2-3 zone for very lengthy stretches. He was successful on one of two fronts. With Toney and Larry Hughes in the backcourt, New York was able to disrupt a lot of passes and even turn some steals into fast break buckets. At the same time, though, Utah accepted the challenge to shoot and did so with considerable success. Andrei Kirilenko hit 5 of 8 threes, many of which were so wide open that the nearest defender was someone in the crowd. Jerry Sloan also made his squad stack one side of the floor, which meant that one guard (often Douglas) found himself stranded at the top of the zone. The ensuing scramble repeatedly left Ronnie Brewer open for a mid-range J, or one of the big men open off a backdoor cut.

- That was the other big thing. Be it laziness or a child-like understanding of object constancy, the Knicks were completely baffled by backdoor cuts. I don't have much more to say on this. If somebody disappears for a second, that doesn't mean they're completely gone. I thought that was a given.

- This movie 2012 shouldn't be advertised on MSG. It almost makes me think Walsh should be clearing cap space for John Cusack, since it seems like he'll be the only dude around in a few years.

- Jared Jeffries has a new haircut. It looks fresh. Jared Jeffries's free throws look like the opposite of his haircut.

- Al Harrington really troubles me. He's trying very hard to be the difference and provide energy, but his shots just ain't falling of late. It's problematic, but I'm not as ready to bench him as some of y'all are.

- I guess Larry Hughes (and Toney, right?) deserves some credit for holding Deron Williams to 2-10 shooting for just 5 points and 7 turnovers. D-Wil did have 16 assists, though.

- Listen, I think the fact that the Knicks promote the Lustgarten Foundation is really, really excellent. Pancreatic cancer is a serious problem and it's a worthy cause for the organization to advocate. All that said, I can't help but single out Mike D'Antoni's performance in his ad spot for the foundation. Where Channing Frye's former rendition of "sometimes, dinner was just crackers" for the Garden of Dreams foundation was classically deadpan, D'Antoni's gratingly loud delivery of "WORKINGTOGETHERASATEAM (beat) THAT'SHOWWE'LLBEATPANCREATICCANCER." lacks nuance and prosody to the point that I have to laugh. The cause is truly noble, but the execution is downright hilarious. Am I a bad person for thinking that? Probably. Just to clear my conscience, why don't I link you over to the foundation one more time. 

- In her regular halftime interview, Jill Martin asked Darryl Strawberry what trend from the 80's he'd most like to have back. Once more, I felt like a bad person for thinking the thoughts that I thought.

- It's funny how a 17-point deficit feels like nothing at halftime. That's practically a tie game in the context of this early season incompetence.

- I couldn't have told you without looking that Wilson Chandler (33 minutes, 17 points on 8-15 shooting, 10 rebounds, 2 assists) had a good game, but I guess he did. I'd prefer he not shoot 4 threes and 0 free throws, but hats off to Wil, I suppose. That's a nice line.

- According to the boxscore, Jordan Hill played in this game. I must have been blinking.

I don't have much else to say. The Knicks, as usual, hung tough when they hit open shots and play defense with even a hint of conviction. As usual, that occurred in the fourth quarter. As usual, it wasn't quite enough. Luckily for us, this game was distinct because of a compelling stretch of zone defense and an intriguing breakout performance from Toney Douglas.

Next game's on Wednesday against the Hawks.

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toney

played a hell of a game tonight against one of the top pgs in the game. though you want more assists out of toney, i dont blame the small amount of assists when harringbum cant even hit a shot or jeffries cant even catch a pass. anyhow, solid game for the rookie.

typical knicks game. always entertaining. 75% of the time a loss.

i just hope curry is given a chance.

by TO. on Nov 10, 2009 2:01 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

is Darko just done? He didn’t even get in the game tonight.

free bayless

by Cablinasian on Nov 10, 2009 2:07 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

i wonder if whatever injury he sustained a couple nights ago is bugging him

it’s also possible that d’antoni didn’t play him because utah doesn’t have a real center.

by Seth on Nov 10, 2009 2:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn...

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 10, 2009 8:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Utah Jazz

You’re good and I’mma let you finish but TONEY DOUGLAS WAS THE PLAYER OF THE NIGHT… OF THE NIGHT!!!!!!!!

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by THEWILLY on Nov 10, 2009 8:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

bong!

doodoodoodoodoodooooodooot

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by stingy d on Nov 10, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yo guys

al harrington needs to be benched. not for missing shots. nope. but every time he fumbles the ball away. even if he gets it right back. he needs to be dumped every time that shit happens. i can deal with the missed shots. seriously. it’s offensive to my sensibilities. but i can deal. it’s the drives and post ups where he fumbles the ball away within 2 seconds of having it or making a move. that shit fucking kills me.

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by stingy d on Nov 10, 2009 10:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Observations from MSG last night

I was at the game last night for the first time this season. Quick observations:

—Minimal booing. Only a touch at the end of the first half. I think the general consensus indeed was that 17 points really wasn’t that bad.

—I was sitting next to TD’s dad and went up to congratulate him on raising such an apparently nice son (yes, I’m nearly 40 years old and I’m still that dorky). He couldn’t have been nicer, though he was surprisingly short. Biggest related highlight, TD’s dad must have given out a dozen (no exaggeration) high fives when TD tied the game at 93, including to me. Definitely the highlight of the season to me.

—On a related note, I’m kicking myself for not breaking out the DWTDD shirt last night. I was out with a client.

—It looked like, on the last drive, TD slightly dribbled off his thighs. Pause. He might stand too upright when he’s ballhandling. Pause again.

—And, finally, Tina Cervasio has some ENORMOUS breasts in person. I’m not sure if it’s as apparent on TV because she wears the dark colors. I have to find out from Gallo how you say major bazongas in Italian.

"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"

by Serious Garbage Time on Nov 10, 2009 10:53 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

i would think

you’d present each client with a dwtdd shirt of his or her own?

by Seth on Nov 10, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sadly

My client is originally from Utah and was pulling, respectfully of course, for the Jazz.

"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"

by Serious Garbage Time on Nov 10, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

aw man!

you’re lucky! i want to high five toney douglas’ pops!

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by stingy d on Nov 10, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I really

can’t overstate how nice a man he is. Hopefully he’ll be at a lot of the games.

Another thing I forgot to mention was that he was being taunted by some kid (~15-19 y.o.) in a neighboring section who was wearing a Yankees hat. It was so weird. The kid was yelling until he was red in the face about how TD was all-defense in the ACC and should be doing better now.

I’m not a super religious man, but I think taunting TD’s dad should earn you a ticket on the Hell Express.

"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"

by Serious Garbage Time on Nov 10, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

See what happens

When the Yanks win a championship? That kid needs to DWTDD.

by fuhry on Nov 10, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i understsnd what you're saying but....

huh????!! i don’t get that.

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by stingy d on Nov 10, 2009 6:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

zone seemed less bad than man

Though they did give up an assload of wide open shots, I think it’s worth mentioning how disruptive the 2-3 zone was with hughes and pretty toney up top. They combined for 6 steals and hughes straight dboed (sp?) deron williams on several occassions. It’s not like playing man they wouldn’t allow open shots and they would certainly be more prone to getting douched on pick and rolls. 2-3 zone is a defensive set i can see nate fitting into nicely, being freer to roam and wreak havoc with his quickness.

Also 8 blocks?!? that’s more blocks than the Knicks had all last season.

by IdBlowOakleyNoHomo on Nov 10, 2009 4:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

with no first round pick

and no realistic playoff aspirations, at least i’ve found a reason to watch this team.

Toney Douglas.

Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!

by Anthony Masons Haircut on Nov 10, 2009 4:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

AMEN!

I am finally surprised in a GOOD way by the Knicks! DWTDD!

by Mr. 2 on Nov 10, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

like i said yesterday i thght toney douglas was mardy collins 2.0

but i am pleaseantly surprised by the things he does on offense

by karamjitm9090 on Nov 10, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i dont completely see the hype either

we just have another nate robinson.. does everyone not realize that we need a true pg (one who can dribble and pass), and not just one that can score?

by nba refs: man up on Nov 10, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it's funny to me

all these dudes clamoring for a defensive presence on the court that is disruptive and aggressive. yet the two guys that would be absolutely brutal for teams to have to deal with is nate and toney. but once people say, “ok they are good defensively”, they turn around and say “man, their offense is crappy”. can’t win. and i know nate needs to get over screens.

they might be short, but they are both bruisers, and they will challenge up and down the court, and totally exhaust opponents, it would be a glorious thing for fans to watch. then on the offensive end, if one is challenging the defense the other one certainly will be. couple that with the non-stop effort david lee gives, throw in a little cock flare. when you got those guys hustling around and menacing everyone, you almost love the idea of wilson getting his as the fourth or fifth option. just throw in some eddy curry lane-clogging. we got a squadron mane.

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by stingy d on Nov 11, 2009 8:32 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

If this was facebook I'd like this comment.

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by THEWILLY on Nov 11, 2009 9:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yup.

rec’d

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by FreeBradshaw on Nov 11, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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