Knicks After Allen Iverson?

The signing of AI would be silly
Even if just for 2 milli
He’ll fail to adapt
And Knicks’ll be trapped
Trying to unload him to Philly

It would be a waste of TD.

That’s only reason it’s being discussed. Business transaction.

if it was just for the rest of the year…

It could be fun. I dont think it would hurt TD’s time as much as it would hurt Duhon and Hughes time.

AI would make the games more fun to watch. A guy that can take the ball down the stretch?

Plus, AI could turn it around in NYC under a coach like MD… I feel like he could do well in this system with TD at the 1 and him at the 2…

I mean. We suck so much, why not?

Allen Iverson has been a few different places the past few years.
All of them got better when he left.

I didn’t know everyone missed Zach Randolph this much.

the season is abismal… i would have never imagined that we would be 1-9 and breaking records for teh worst start in team history. The ONLY reason why I say getting AI would be fine is b/c in this d’antoni system, he could play with freedom and make the players around him better. Gallo, chandler, harrington.. these players need one things, a ball handler that can create plays for others… although ai isnt known to be pass happy by any means… he is still imo, a better option than du, who is gone from this teams future plans.

DWTDD

td is gonna dwtdd.. ai will pplay the two with hughes off the bench.. and du backing up td and not douglas backing up du!! maybe so.. douglas ai gallo lee darko/curry ..then we can have chandler at the 3,4 as with harrington and j hill

limericks aren’t cool anymore guys? no?

Do we need yet another undersized guard? No way. Plus, we all know he HAS to start otherwise he’ll stage yet another mutiny. TD has looked good initially and even Duhon can’t be this bad through an entire season. With high usage NateRob in the wings, AI is just redundant.

As far as it being merely business, will the Knicks really be that much more of a draw? Aren’t they already leading the league in attendence? Also, consider that the youth might have to take a backseat with him around. The whole point of this season is to really see what these guys have so the FO can best decide a course of action for 2010.

while every lug holds on his pud
and drags a.i.‘s name through the mud
we’re missing the point
we duly annoint
let’s let toney d. do what he dud

if we must have a gunner
no one would be funner
for with each passing dawn
our chances are gone
the answer is truly a wonder.

If he’s got anything left, you build him up and trade him to a contender near the deadline. Get a prospect or a draft pick from a win-now team.

Modern humanist I am, I hate to say flip a person like a house in ‘05 — especially a guy who was my favorite player 10 yrs ago, but it would work out for everyone . . . if he can still play — I haven’t seen him this year.

Knicks have no assets. One mega and one big contract in 2010 won’t give us a team. Piece by piece, people. Iverson might not be a piece, but he might be a trade chip.

I might be on board with Iverson in a Knicks uniform.
I think he is a different player than in the past. Detroit and Memphis really bugged him. Neither team was a good fit and to Iverson’s credit… I never heard anyone applaud either move because it was easy to see his spot was already filled. Detroit had Hamilton established, and Memphis is loaded with young talent; Conley at PG, Mayo at SG.

Iverson has his reputation, but actually, he generally does what he is asked. He is a scorer, sure, but he can be a playmaker if he is asked to play that role. He’s not stupid, and he doesn’t gun as much as his %s show. If people want to stand around and not create their own space, Iverson does it himself. That’s actually what New York needs though. Who on this team is willing to take charge and make things happen? Harrington talked the talk, but he’s far from a playmaker.

I wouldn’t call him such a mentor, but oney Douglas and even Nate Robinson can learn some things from AI. He comes to play every game. Iverson only became a headache when he felt disrespected by coaches. Larry Brown anyone? Michael Curry was a former teammate, and 1st time coach… awkward?! MEMPHIS straight up lied just to sell tickets… they knew damn well they weren’t gonna start him, yet when he made it clear at the start that he was looking for a starting gig, they said “ok”. NY knows better than that.

Iverson knows he could use this season to build his rep back up and also help the Knicks win some games and develop themselves. He would come into NY knowing full well that its not long term, so what does either have to lose?

if the knicks got iverson, they’d couple it with another changing of the guards. I’ve heard either a hughes buyout, or trying to move duhon to a team who needs him as a backup. Sacramento for a draft pick perhaps?? That’s Sherlock-holmes interesting. Whatever happens, i think AI is a tempo player, and defensively conscious, something that the knicks really need. I agree it wont be TD that loses time over this if it goes down.

Also, AI is only volatile when he’s put into awful situations that don’t fit his game. Replacing Hamilton, who detroit loves and won a championship for them? terrible. Coming off the bench for a team looking to develop potential star guards in Memphis? Not smart. TD is the only developing guard in NY, and AI is a shoe-in starter here. Don’t be bashful donnie boy.

His back he will put the whole team on,
without him, playoffs, oh dream on,
but no bench TD
so what i’d like to see
is the waivers for ol’ Chrissy Duhon.

The Knicks are 1-9, and have not had good point guard play. It’s clear Duhon is not in the plans after this year. Iverson is confident and ballsy, and I believe he can still play. On most teams, I don’t think he’d be very useful. But on the Knicks, with their offensive stagnation, I think he’s actually a perfect fit.

But I don’t want him to interfere with Toney’s development. So if they do this, they need to drop or find some way to trade Duhon for another expiring. What you offer Iverson is this: Put on the Knicks uniform and light up the garden. You have one chance to prove your detractors wrong, put this team on your back, and lead it to the playoffs for one more shot. Play him at point guard with Hughes or N8, at shooting guard with Douglas. That’s some exciting guard combos right there.

I believe Iverson is sincere when he says he would like to help the young guys, but he’s got to do it as a starter with minutes. I think they have a shot to make the playoffs with him. And it’s understood – this is Iverson’s last stand. Your job is to get us to the playoffs and help train Toney Douglas for the job.

I think it would be exciting and interesting. I do think Iverson’s got a lot left in the tank. But I don’t know about how he affects Toney Douglas. Maybe if you started Douglas and Iverson it might work.

Let’s be honest here…we look like a high school squad right now, not even a good one either, we are talking JV status. The playoffs was wishful thinking before the season started and has since devolved into downright delusion. Yes it’s still early, but this team has a kinda track record for disappointment and I don’t think we have the manpower to turn it around.

So Why Not?

Worse case we’ll continue to lose like we would have anyway and A. I. , Dantoni and Walsh can all say they tried their best.

Best case A. I. re-energizes the team gives us some spark, we still may not see playoff action, but our confidence would boost and we’d pick up a few more wins.

I’m not concerned with Iverson hurtin the young guns cuz he’s not here yet and Dantoni is hurtin them. The best man should play and either Dantoni should learn that or get the boot. If The Answer comes aboard and starts being The Problem should TD start to blow up then we can toss him aside much like the Grizz’s did.

As for A. I. not fittin in, disrupting chemistry or being washed up? 1st, what chemistry??? 2nd the mans numbers have been on decline because his minutes have declined. The nuggets are the only team to improve without him and there are other factors involved with that success besides of ridding Iverson. Stop frontin like the nuggs were terrible with Iverson there cuz they won more than 45 games each of the two seasons he was there.

I’m not sayin make a move to make one, but he is better than any option we have at the one or two right now, He gives his all on the floor and he can handle putting a game on his shoulders.

I don’t think Iverson at first will be a fit for the system but so what…Dantoni managed to convince us Duhon was, am I right?

Leave TD’s minutes alone, Trade Duhon for a case of hot dogs and toiletry supplies and sign Iverson to start and play the one. That all.

I want to sign him so much,
Because our current team sucks,
But while he makes tickets sell,
The young guys won’t develop as well,
And so as usual we seem to be stuck.

1:He’s on the wrong side of 30 and has a bad back

2:He’s a ball hog.Taking away more touches for Gallo

3:As soon as he does not get enough Minutes he will bitch to the NY papers and that will lead to more chaos around the Knicks

4:TD won’t be able to DWTDD

I don’t know what the ANSWER is for this years Knicks but it’s not A.I

if we trade for AI
Im not gonna lie
the games will be more fun
a real baller to run and gun
but it could also really suck ass

yo seth, you used to do lookalikes, whats up? not until we win again or something?

How many times do we bitch that our young guys don’t have that killer instinct???

Chandler should drive more, Duhon needs to jus lay the damn ball in, Hill looks hesitant, yada,yada, yada.

I myself have wished for the gallant cock to bitch smack his teammates around until they pass him the damned ball more.

Why wouldn’t these younglings respond or learn from a Vet like A. I. who not only has that aggressive instinct but the talent to back it up.

Did he not help bring along another A. I. currently in Philly in Andre Iguana, who just happens to scorch us anytime we play them. And Melo had nothing but praise for him. Imagine if he could help mold Chandler into something formidable.

Although my eyes turn red and almost bleed,
When I see Duhon meandering and killing our speed,
I think in the year 2010 at last,
We’ll be glad that on the Answer we passed,
Because our young core will have the experience they need.

The guy has a very high opinion of himself and he likes to skip practices. He is very skilled and I do think he would help them score more points, and they would probably win more games.

I’m just wondering if it might be better to put Toney in charge and see if he can figure it out how to lead the team, rather than putting him in a situation where he is deferring to another guy that.

One thing I’ve always believed is that the great point guards (and any great player really) sometimes does not agree with his coach and kind of vetos his instructions on the floor. I always thought that a little dissent between point guard and coach is a good thing, and I think you’ll get that with Iverson, and that’s something maybe Toney should learn. But the ’I’m better than everyone else’ attitude? Not so much.

Monta Ellis is on the block and it’d be nice to see the Knicks go after him…

Has anyone here even been to a Knick game this year? Aside from Gallo….not one competitor on the court . At this point you gotta put whatever reservations you have about AI to the side and admit he will reduce the suck factor at the Garden. Plain and simple you sign him. No Brainer.

OF COURSE you sign Iverson for a one year deal. OF COURSE. This is about respect. We need to win, and we need to make the fucking playoffs no matter what. I like toney douglas too, but he shouldnt be playing 35 a night just yet. And I like Nate even more, but we dont have the balls to play him 35 a night.
But I do know this, if I have to watch Duhon or Hughes waddling up the court with the ball in their hands one more fucking time, I will shit my pants all over everything. Every time a coach or player lists a whole bunch of things wrong, and says thats it I dont have any answers, they should be FIRED because the answer is our point guard fucking sucks. Ill take the Iverson of 5 years from now, for a cheap one year deal. He is not old at all.

“The Knicks are already a circus, what’s another clown?”

catch 22. riddle.

On one hand, the team could hardly get worse…

On the other, AI is nowhere near as quick or speedy as he used to be. He doesn’t seem close to the player he once was. Can he run in the uptempo offense and be effective? Is he fast enough?

Is is worth “sucking up to LeBron’s agent” to sign AI’s diminished skills and all of his baggage? Unfortunately, since we’re 1-9, the answer is maybe.

Iverson is a cancer. The guy is not good for any wins, you gotta be nuts if you think he is.

Is the Knicks problem scoring? Is it ?

No, its defense. Iverson’s not gonna help them this year cuz he’s a ballhog and a cancer of a teammate.

PASS!

http://www.knickerblogger.net/2746/is-this-the-answer-to-our-problems.html

i want to be entertained this year. simple as that. call it childish if you must, this current team is garbage and not the least bit interesting either.

ideally pretty toney would come off the bench to log around 22 mins per game, duhon would log around 12 (and kill both my fantasy teams, yes i am a fucking idiot), and the knicks would have a player with proven clutchness and toughness, and most importantly, swag.

which would fill in for the swag that brandon jennings would have provided. that’s right, i’m still not over it.

Forget the 1-9 record and forget the fear of duking it out with NJ for worst record in the East.

Let’s forget the “Why Not? We are losing anyway” attitude.

Imagine for a second we have been playing the same exact way with the same exact players for the past ten games and somehow went 5-5….fuck it say we went 10-0.

That still does not excuse or dissolve the glaring problems we have NOW at the present time, not in 2010 or the yr 2012. Yet we refuse to address these issues like they will magically heal themselves.

WE HAVE NO CHEMISTRY!!! Have we all been watching the same games??? How can Allen Iverson destroy the well crafted chemistry this team has built when that chemistry does not exist? Sure the players all like each other….maybe, but that’s not what we are talking about. We really need this team to play TOGETHER which they don’t do now. Even if Iverson does not help that situation he can’t hurt it.

Toney Douglas needs to develop. I agree. I like Toney, in fact Tony is actually my middle name. I think he’s one of the few NBA ready rookies in the league. Why is it people automatically think Iverson will stunt his growth? Why would he eat Toney Douglas’ minutes and not Duhon’s? In fact If that is a concern play Iverson at the two! The only other real SG we have is Hughes. Where is the problem?

Ohhhh A. I. is a cancer!…well guess what , Zach Randolph was regarded as a cancer and despite his tenure with Isiah under Dantoni he played well and behaved…what personal interaction do any of us have with Iverson to think he can’t do the same?

And a one yr vets min contract??? Will someone please explain the risk? If he does become the CANCER instead of the ANSWER we can waive him. Just like the Grizzlies did. Our 2010 plans will not have suffered we’d still have the most cap room in the NBA.

We don’t have to get rid of anyone for him (tho I wouldn’nt mind trading Duhon), He’s cheap, talented and has more WINS and PLAYOFF EXPERIENCE than ANYONE on our roster…maybe even combined.

Aside from all that he’s better at the position than anyone we have and I’ll be damned if anyone tells me different.

Let Iverson shave the heads of a dozen MSG interns before pissing on them and videotaping it, I don’t care. He can play so he should until he does fuck up and then we toss him. And maybe just the threat of Iverson eating into some of these guys playing time will get this team to play with some urgency ALL 4 QUARTERS and maybe pick up some wins. But If not, what have we really lost?

I am a supporter of the Knicks signing him as a free agent on a 1 yr vets min to hopefully win some games, provide confidence, and make the place more attractive in 2010.

Really it’s quite simple…If we bring him in and he is disruptive cut him loose. Simple, no major cap implications. done deal. adios.

But none of us have a crystal ball and know for a fact he will be disruptive do we?

Anyone remember how everyone was so sure Zach Randolph would “disrupt” the “team”? Now he didn’t always play well and won’t be a garden legend but he stayed out of trouble and was a good teammate.

Jeff also kindly reminded us in the previous comment that the Knicks were in the same situation with Latrell Sprewell! And he not only disrupted his previous team but CHOKED THE DAMN COACH OUT!!! Are you guys kidding me? Not only did Spree go on to be a crucial member of one of the better Knicks teams, he was also a LEADER.

Say what you want about Iverson being disruptive but I’ve never heard Iverson complain about his teammates or his teammates complain about him. It’s always been a situation between coach/player that the media ran away with.

And lets not forget we are hoping to sign LBJ in 2010 (which I would love but don’t think is too likely right now) Lebron is a great player, but cmon…..is he not a bit of a diva??? Is he not a bit disruptive himself? Every week the story is something new with this guy besides who he is playing next. Again I would Looooove to have him, but essentially it would be for the same reason I support a 1 yr Iverson deal…I want us to Win.

Now maybe we get Iverson and don’t win any more games than we would have, but we have to at least TRY to get better, because what we have aint cutting the mustard. He’ll corrupt the team? Fine, Let him! half the team is in free agency next yr. If they start regressing(which by accounts already are without Iverson) or becoming a problem. Fine, place the blame on Iverson but those guys can go too. Anyone who doesn’t prove they’re on board with winning and winning with the team the right way can go.

Lets not let our prejudices and misconceptions about Iverson affect our common sense.

which means the Knicks will definitely do it. Welcome to NY A.I.

Joe DiMaggio deserves his name spelled right. Sorry man, I don’t mean to be like that. Its the yankees in my blood…