I was shocked when he got that contract. I’ve watched him play; I grew up a Knicks & Warriors fan — I sure know how to choose em, don’t I!. He’s not a true point and probably can’t play defense after being corrupted by the Emperor.

I don’t see too much more upside. I think you’re paying 11M for what you see right now. Is that worth it? I’m sure Isiah would think so.

its hard to deny his talent. He’s also pretty young still, but I hesitate to campaign for the Knicks to get him. He strikes me as a future headcase and one of these guys who will spend his career switchign teams every 2 years. His scooter incident was pretty ridiculous, and with the way he instantly tried to rule out playing with Stephen Curry on the court, it just seems like he is another Steve Francis-type “me” player. Sure, its Golden State, which would drive any player insane, but something tells me to let another team deal with Ellis. I hope he blossoms, sure, but I also feel the same way about Stephen Jackson. Good “me” players….

      He’s another me first player. He doesn’t have the ability to make his teammates better. The Warriors are doing crappy with him as the point guard, so is he supposed to come to New York with an arguably worst supporting cast and do better?
      I like the kid, I really do. He’s fast and he can score, but he really wouldn’t make the Knicks better, and he’d be tied to us for a long time. We desperately need a POINT guard, and he just is not one.

If they’re willing to take Curry how could you not take this deal? I like Chandler – but if he has to go too he has to go.

This is my first time posting anything here at P&T and I’ve got to say. The Knicks are not getting Lebron. We’re not getting Wade. I have high, high, high hopes for Joe Johnson and I think he’s our best bet. We need to get Ellis (if the Warriors really would take Curry), get Johnson (who will be a lot cheaper than James or Wade), resign Lee (I think he’ll be cheaper than expected due to the big names in the 2010 market, and find better depth than Duhon and Hughes at guard.

2010
C David lee
PF Danilo Gallinari
SF Joe Johnson
SG Monta Ellis
PG Tony Douglas

With Hill, Jeffries, Chandler (depending on the possibe Warriors trade) and anybody except Duhon and Hughes coming off the bench. This could be a turn around team. What do you think?

I’m 90% in favor of Monta as long as two conditions are met.

1. We drop Curry’s contract in the deal.
2. He isn’t seen as the future PG of this team.

The fact of the matter is, we need a guy with is pure scoring ability the guard position and I don’t think anybody here will argue that he’s a better talent than Hughes or Duhon. Is he going to give you great effort defensively? No. Is he selfish in looking for his own shot too often? Yes. That’s why he’s a combo guard. You play him off the ball and groom Douglas to be the PG of the future.

I’m still pushing for Joe Johnson whether or not this trade goes down (I still doubt that Ellis will actually end up here). Imagine, with all the money headed to James, Wade, Bosh, etc…there is a realistic possibility that we can have Monta Ellis and Joe Johnson at the 2 and 3 next year with some money left over to grab some role players (and hopefully sign David Lee – I don’t care who you are – you don’t replace walking, talking double doubles very easily). If anybody else can envision a better 1/2 scoring option than Johnson/Ellis for us I really challenge you to do so. Especially when you start taking into account the shrinking cap. Also, from what I can tell, Johnson isn’t a “me” guy so we wouldn’t really be dealing with dueling egos. Just Ellis’s. How don’t we do this?

I like Toney Douglas and I don’t like what Ellis provides for the salary.