Danilo Gallinari or Eric Gordon?
by mindfeck on Nov 2, 2009 5:40 PM EST
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With the 6th pick of the 2008 NBA Draft, the New York Knicks selected Danilo Gallinari, a 6′10″ forward with a sweet stroke, questionable defensive ability, limited assists, and a health issue. Some experts clamored for Eric Gordon, the 6′3″ guard with a sweet stroke, questionable defensive ability, limited assists, and a health issue. Danilo was 225 pounds and too thin to defend other forwards. Eric was 225 pounds and too heavy to defend other guards.
I know most of you guys are gaga over rooster, but are any of you regretting the draft pick?
I finally updated my site after a year to help answer the question.
During my prep work, I learned that Danilo always makes that same face, and Eric Goron's nickname is EJ.
http://www.nbagauntlet.com/danilo-gallinari-vs-eric-gordon/
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EJ
but i’m biased because i’m an IU grad.
in all seriousness, it’s way to early to talk about this. i mean, you were dissing on Derrick Rose on the site, yet we’re basing that on three games. three? that’s way too small of a sample size.
Gordon is ahead of where Gallinari is at, but that doesn’t mean Gallo can’t pass him somewhere down the line.
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by Anthony Masons Haircut on Nov 2, 2009 7:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I called Rose trash this season to illustrate that it’s early in the season and we can’t put too much stock in the numbers so far.
by mindfeck on Nov 3, 2009 8:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
my bad.
reading comprehension fail on my part.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Nov 3, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gordon's a better scorer right now...
yet, I still don’t think he’ll be any better than Ben Gordon.
Sometimes players that score a lot like Gordon..pause….don’t really make a team better.
Gallo might be that type of player.
I’d take a 6"10 point forward with the potential to get 15/7/7 over a short scoring 2-Guard who seems like a 20 a night and 3 boards and 3 assists type.
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by FreeBradshaw on Nov 2, 2009 7:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think it's way to early to decide
But from what I’ve seen in the few games this season I’m happy with Gallo.
I think we’ll have a better idea of what type of player we got with Gallo but I’m optimistic
by Frederic Weis on Nov 2, 2009 8:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
we have nate robinson to do what eric gordon does.
its not just about what you want but what you need. we need gallo alot more den gordon
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 2, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gallo just seems like a winner to me
which is strange cuz I realize we’re talking about our Knicks here
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
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by Lord Smackington on Nov 2, 2009 10:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He was instrumental in building the knicks lead in the first quarter. His shot was off but he had 4 assists in the first 3 minutes or so.
by mindfeck on Nov 3, 2009 8:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I will admit
I have not seen Gorden play…
But the cock seems like one of the smarter basketball players I have seen on the knicks in a while. You can just tell that he was taught how to play the game by knowledgeable people. From what I hear of Gorden, while he is a great player, he is very 1 dimensional. Something like Crawford…
I like our pick. I wouldnt go back and change it…
now hill on the other hand…
by gbaked on Nov 3, 2009 9:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i'd take gallinari.
cus i don’t give a fuck about not shit mane!
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by stingy d on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Eric Gordon’s winning. That’s surprising.
by mindfeck on Nov 3, 2009 1:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
EJ, unquestionably
Or at LEAST Brandon Jennings this year.
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by PSUdevon on Nov 3, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
EG, not EJ
blah
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by PSUdevon on Nov 3, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, his nickname is actually EJ. Confusing, I know. I’m pretty sure the J is for Junior, since he is Eric Gordon Jr.
by mindfeck on Nov 3, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no thanks to gordon
we’ve had enough players like him. one-dimensional chuckers with no defense or basketball IQ.
by JayJ44 on Nov 3, 2009 1:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gordon is more than just a chucker
even though you’re right that he’s a scorer #1. he’s only averaged 11.6 shot attempts per game for his career so far.
i actually think Gordon is pretty good as a defender, which is more than i can say for Gallo at this point. he’s a sick athlete, with length (pause) and generally is put on the opposing teams best player (also pause).
i’m just worried about people lumping him in with the Ben Gordons and Larry Hughes of the world. EJ is a kid that does more than just throwing up shots every time he touches the ball.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Nov 3, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What's with the idea that Gallo can't defend?
Gordon is the defender but Gallo has been extremely pesky on offense and has already been proven capable of blocking and stealing from NBA starters. His speed will always hurt him but once he learns to avoid meaningless fouls he should become a capable defender.
Eric Gordon is turning into a nice 2 way shooting guard, but he’s still a 6’4" shooting guard who and isn’t exactly Dwayne Wade when it comes to skill level.
by Nolan B on Nov 3, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just because Gallo blocked one shot and stole the ball from Peja
doesn’t make him all NBA first team defense. He is so skinny and he can’t guard bigger dudes on the post, and he can’t stick with quicker dudes outside. That is why he had 5 fouls every game. His offense is coming along nicely though, he has done more then I expected so far.
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by nrmax88 on Nov 3, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
are you implying that eric gordon is all nba defense?
because he is regular. and so is gallinari.
it’s easy to put gallinari on skates, but the kid knows how to stay in front of his man. no homo. and there is something to be said for that. everyone wants to make the dirk/gallo comparison because they are annoying. but gallo reminds me of paul pierce.
ps- i know you are not implying gordon is all nba defense. so don’t play that card.
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by stingy d on Nov 4, 2009 9:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it all comes down to intelligence
not that EG is dumb… I have no idea his IQ. But Gallo is a very smart basketball player. He prob wont make the all-defense team at any point.. but he might, if he wants it.
by gbaked on Nov 4, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we see him at least play one good defensive game before we start talking about how he can be all NBA defense "if he wants"
Seriously. I get that you guys all like the guy, I know his ceiling is huge, but his floor is pretty low also. He has come along much better then I thought he would this year, but a lot of his points have come in garbage time, and no matter what anybody wants to say about his defense, it isn’t good at all right now. He isn’t strong enough to de a big and not quick enough to de a small. He does have good instincts, I will give you that, he is a good off the ball defender, I will give you that also, but you cannot put him against an offensive threat on the other team, and expect him to de somebody up one on one. Not yet.
I know there are some here who think I hate Gallo. I don’t, theres people on Blueshirtbanter who think I hate Dubinsky, I don’t. I like both of them a lot, and have high hopes for them both. They both have high ceilings, but right now, especially Gallo, they are just projects. They haven’t really come close to reaching the ceilings they have, yet some of us act as if they have already reached that peak level of stardom, which turns me off. That is where we get the “NY fans overrate all their own players” tag. These guys both do have big ceilings, but they are still very, very young and have a lot of progress left to make before they get to where we want them to be.
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by nrmax88 on Nov 8, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take Gallo
any day of the week. 6’ 11". Do I have to say anything else?
by fuhry on Nov 3, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
he has the fire and desire
would be nice
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by stingy d on Nov 4, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
defense is desire. fire and desire
- coach yoast
by Seth on Nov 4, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jared Jeffries is 6'11 also.
So, yes, height is not enough.
by mindfeck on Nov 4, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes, because Jeffries = Gallo
obviously
by Nolan B on Nov 7, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No Way
The only person who might have been a better choice is Brook Lopez, who is a poor fit for this system. Gallo has as high of a ceiling as anyone in that draft.
by Nolan B on Nov 3, 2009 8:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Defense...
I really feel that even at the NBA level, 90 percent of defense is a desire, to stop your opponent from doing what they want to do, and I think Gallo’s got that. Talented combo guards come out of the draft every year, but how often do you see a 6’ 11" long range shooter that can handle the ball and create for others? Gordon may yet end up the more valuable player, but if Gallo pans out and continues to improve, he represents a talent much harder to find.
by fuhry on Nov 4, 2009 10:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Weren’t Skita and Darko both supposed to be 7’ guys who could shoot and do everything else Gallinari does? Oh, and add Maciej Lampe to the list. Then there’s Channing Frye, who was drafted to block shots but now plays like Gallinari.
by mindfeck on Nov 4, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
r u kidding me
i dont think darko has ever made a cluth shot or dropped 30 points in a game. and darkos been around forever. gallo is actually showing that he wont be a bust. i never thought frye was a bad choice. his mid range jumper was the best we had since kurt thomas.
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 4, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Darko’s career high for points is 21. Is it good or bad that I thought of him as much older than he is? We’re both 24, and I think I can still become a better player, so who knows…
by mindfeck on Nov 4, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah man
When I was 24, I could hustle and rebound and play D, but I didn’t develop any kind of offensive game until I was over 30. With the right attitude, improvement is always possible. For some reason, it seems like it’s easier for a naturally defensive player to learn offense than the other way around, but both kinds of improvement are possible. A lot of it is being in the right situation.
by fuhry on Nov 4, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol @ you comparing gallo to skita, darko, and lampe. so predictable
Skita, Darko and Lampe averaged like 5 minutes a game on their team in Europe. They were drafted on potential. They never produced in their league, unlike Gallo. Gallo was by far the best player on his team and produced at a high level, much more than you can say for Skita, Darko and Lampe. Euros who produce from a young age in their respective leagues almost always translate into good/great NBA players. Meanwhile, guys like Skita, Darko, and Lampe who don’t produce and barely play, but have"potential" are almost always busts.
by JayJ44 on Nov 8, 2009 2:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just responding the question that you do see tall guys with skills. You can’t base that as the reason why you want someone on your team. Of course Gallinari has shown more skill and has produced at a high level. I do think it’s too early to say Darko can’t play. He’s playing about average. He hasn’t shown any shot-blocking ability yet this season, though, so I hope that will come soon.
by mindfeck on Nov 9, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i like Eric Gordon. I like Danilo too. I think its hard to say if we should have picked one over the other. I mean, Gordon has showed that he was NBA ready as it didn’t take him long at all to lock down LA’s SG spot. And he seems to shoot a solid %. I don’t know what his ceiling might be, but the Clippers do have Baron Davis, Marcus Camby, Chris Kaman, amongst others and the guy the most consistent guy for them has been Gordon. Sure, its easy to brush off the Clippers, but don’t deny they have some talent. Gordon gets his withoout hurting his team in too many TOs or missed shots.
Danilo is suddenly huge for us too. Of course he wont hit 5-6 3s a game (I could regret that statement), but he is definitely intriguing. Consistency is key.
Gordon is the early winner, but that doesn’t mean Danilo is a bust by any means.
by Chris Child's Fist on Nov 4, 2009 4:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the real question is
Jordan Hill or Brandon Jennings?
(curses loudly while slamming head into table)
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Nov 4, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mutherf*****
Jennings any day shit wen they drafted hill i started looking for DW’s number so i kould kurse him the out for that dumb shit but Hills not that bad
by IB on Nov 8, 2009 1:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Let's look at it like this:
Who would you rather have drafted? Beasley or Gordon? ‘Cause Gallo’s doing a lot better than the guy that was picked 4 spots ahead of him.
At the time, to pick Gordon would have made no sense whatsoever, since we had enough SG’s at the time. in retrospect i still think gallo’s the better pick. The thing that sets him apart from all the other players on the knicks is his fire. he wants to win.
by thePharcyde on Nov 11, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gallo vs Gordon vs Lopez
Both Eric Gordon and Brook Lopez were taken after Gallo.
Since the plan for Walsh was to shed salary for 2010 free agent hunting, the Knicks in reality had needs at every position, so drafting Gordon would have left them needing a SF, C, PG, etc. Same with drafting Lopez instead of Gallo.
Gallo is a very good pick, because his skill set can lead to match up problems for defenses, similar to what Orlando had going with Hedo, but the reality of it is the Knicks had need for all three of those guys!
As for Hill vs Jennings … I don’t like Jennings. He’s an undersized scoring guard playing the point with an attitude problem no less. We already have one of those, his name is Nate Robinson.
Give Hill more minutes and I believe he’ll prove him a more capable starter for New York then people are willing to believe right now. Remember everyone was hating on Gallo just last year for being hurt no less.
by 2010-NYK on Nov 14, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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