McGrady And The Knicks?
what you guys think fello knick fans i want to hear your opinions on this as far as
if this trade should take place?
is it worth getting tracy + his type of injury?
giving up what we got going for tracy?
the story McGrady And The Knicks?
ESPN: (With A.I. out of the picture, could T-Mac be the Answer for the Knicks?
If Rockets are looking to trade him, New York could be an option.)
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Um
Of Course. His contract is up after the season. Rockets would have to take one of Jefferies or Curry to do so, though, which is why it aint happening. In addion to Curry/Jefferies I’d give them any damn player they want except Gallo, but as soon as Donnie says Gallo isn’t to be had, Morey hangs up the phone.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Nov 23, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
neat-o
wouldnt give em wilson, but a curry(or jeffries…ha)-duhon-harrington move would be great if it werent so unlikely.
course id also love to trade duhon for mike conley and hughes for rudy fernandez, but thats just me.
by Ray Smuckles on Nov 23, 2009 11:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
sigh.......
since this is only a trade option…I’d consider it if we could get rid of Curry and Jeffries.
But only if we can get rid of Curry and Jeffries (and AL Harrington and Chris Duhon…tired of watching these mopes on the floor).
Only.
No one else.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 24, 2009 7:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
exactly
no trade is worth doing unless it involves Curry and Jeffries (and cupcakes coming in return).
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Nov 24, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i would throw in chandler
if they took curry.
by gbaked on Nov 24, 2009 10:04 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'd like to keep Curry longer.
I still wanna get rid of him, but to be honest all I see is a rusty player out there, not one who lacks talent.
I think he could aid the Knicks……dare I say even next season!!
Jeffries + Chandler? Get it done. I’m sure the Rockets could use a 6"11 dude who moves like a SF and is a “hustle” player.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 24, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm glad you say that
cus curry looks motivated for once. and i got a big soft spot for the guy, no homo , and i want him to be a success no matter what happens with his career.
but if we hold on to him for another year, it’s worth knowing that we’ll have major cap space two years in a row. that’s a comforting thought.
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by stingy d on Nov 25, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have nothing against Curry
cuz he actually was one of the only things good for the Knicks a few years back. All the crap that happened to him in his life? I think you can kinda tell that he feels he owes it to the Knicks to give something back this year.
Jeffries? Well…I mean its really not his fault he got offered THAT contract… but he’s been useless his whole Knick tenure.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 26, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i have nothing against curry
but dude gets hurt all the time. If you can trade all of him for a full expiring (and only need to get rid of chandler) then do it.
do it now, because then 2010 is gonna be really interesting.
by gbaked on Nov 27, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Try and give them Jeffries
We’re looking to trade either Curry or Jeffries. They’re both killing our cap space, but at least Curry can contribute something, but we know Jeffries will never contribute anything.
For them to take Jeffries, we’d have to give them a really good player, like Lee. That’s okay with me. I love Lee and appreciate all his hard work, but I still believe that he looks better than he really is, because of A) D’Antoni’s system, and B) all the other crappy players around him.
Plus, this opens up minutes for Jordan Hill. Hopefully McGrady will come here, his injuries will linger like they always do, and the young guys will keep developing.
by StarksMiddleFinger on Nov 24, 2009 10:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
the Rockets are done with T-Mac
they don’t want him like we don’t want Duhon or Harrington or Jefferies. He can be had without giving up anything significant. We wouldn’t have to give up Lee. They might just take Harrington and Jefferies…MAYBE Duhon, although they have a solid PG in Aaron Brooks. I doubt they take Duhon though. Behind Brooks is Kyle Lowry, so no need for any more PGs. But McGrady has no value other than his contrct. As long as we don’t trade for him with the expectation that he will play big minutes for us, I am on board. Trading Harrington and Jefferies frees up a spot forcing more minutes to Gallo or even TD since Chandler could play SF.
by Chris Child's Fist on Nov 24, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
T-Mac himself
is almost irrelevant. Its his 22 million/yr expiring that the Rockets value so much. The Knicks would need to give up a player that the Rockets covet, not spare parts and problem contracts.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Nov 24, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The question is
whether they have any interest in Harrington. If so, this is possible. I don’t see the Knicks trading Lee or Chandler for him.
by fuhry on Nov 24, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Harrington and Jeffries
won’t do it – the salaries don’t match. The Knicks need to include another 6 million. That’s where Duhon comes in.
by fuhry on Nov 24, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Harrington-Jeffries-Duhon?
that’s got to be the ultimate shit sandwich.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Nov 24, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently
The Rockets are looking for expirings – they don’t want to take on salary. So I doubt they take on Curry. But I happen to think one of these expiring-for-expiring trades is going to happen for the Knicks. Harrington/Hughes works. Or Harrington/Duhon/Darko. I don’t know how Walsh explains that to the fans. Maybe we can do Harrington/Duhon/Jeffries. They save most of their money but get Harrington…. Though I’m not sure why they would risk poisoning their team attitude with Knicks at this point…. I just like the trade idea if the Knicks trade Harrington and Duhon because that would allow Gallo and Douglas to play extensive minutes.
by fuhry on Nov 24, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
If we trade, we'll get fleeced
Don’t trade with someone way smarter than you — the Rockets, unlike the Knicks, understand basketball. They wouldn’t take Curry if he were the last 7 footer on earth — the best you can hope for is that he doesn’t die on the court (sad but true: Eddie’s lethargy is metabolic: he’ll never block shots because his heart doesn’t beat hard enough to let him jump). I personally hope he retires before his body quits for good.
If we end up with McGrady, you’ll find that through some technicality we have no 1st round draft picks until 2015, no banners left hanging from MSG, and the letter “S” removed from all team jerseys.
Forget about it. We missed our chance with Iverson.
by beelove on Nov 24, 2009 11:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I kinda agree
we could get McGrady without losing our young guns, but we could find a way to fuck it up too. Something like moving Al Harrington and Jefferies only to let McGrady replace Harrington and still not play Gallo 35+ minutes and end games with Hughes and Duhon in the back court rather than Douglas and Robinson. We would pull that type of bullshit.
by Chris Child's Fist on Nov 24, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I only do this trade
if they take Harrington AND Duhon. McGrady’s had microfracture surgery – that means more time for Gallo.
by fuhry on Nov 24, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This Thread
is interesting because its really sheds some light on whom each of us thinks has value going into next season. I’m really surprised that people think that any of our players are worth holding onto except Gallo, and to a lesser degree Douglas. Wilson Chandler is not a very good player. Sure he has potential, but the reality is that he can’t shoot, plays low percentage basketball, and plays the most replaceable position in the lig. I just went through all the rosters and found only 5 teams that I would not currently trade starting SFs with (for this season, contract nonwithstanding)
Miami – James Jones
Nets – Trenton Hassell
Kings – Nocioni
Warriors – Magette
Clips – Al Thorton (close)
For Utah and Portland, I used Kirilenko and any of B Roy, Outlaw, or Rudy Fernandez even though they either don’t start or are out of position.
Anywho, I’m saying the guy is about the farthest thing from untouchable. Plus he plays the same position as Gallo. He’s definitely not a 2 (can’t shoot) nor a 4 (can’t D or board well enough), so he’s gonna be our backup. If a team wants him who is willing to give up an expiring, pull the trigger
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Nov 24, 2009 12:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mostly agree on Chandler, but . . .
I’m so sick of people saying we have to “develop” youngsters by giving them minutes. Chandler is a case study that PT does not equal development. He has regressed.
You have to play in the right situation. You play for a couple years without hope of winning, that’s not gonna make you a better player. Look at Nate and Lee for further proof. That’s why I wanted AI — he gives a hope of winning, which is better for young players than a few extra minutes.
But yeah, Chandler’s not so good.
by beelove on Nov 24, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And while we're at it
Why does everyone think Gallo is so good? Because D’Antoni says so?
by beelove on Nov 24, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what?
how about cuz we watch the game and see that the kid can ball.
He’s 6"10, 20 years old…and can shoot lights out.
He seems to be a Peja Stojakovic potential shooter…and a Toni Kukoc or even Turkoglu type point forward in his future.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 24, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Um
In our 3 wins he’s averaging 8.7pts a game. I’m so excited somebod hold me down! He moves stiffly on the court. No defensive presence. He gets some stas, but it’s the NBA — players with minutes are bound to get a certain number of pts and rebounds. The question is do their teams win when they get those numbers? How many games has Gallo won for us?
Now c’mon, I’m not saying he’s a bad player. I like him just fine. But people are going crazy like he’s untouchable just because we have nothing else. There are other rooks (look i even give him the benefit of calling him a rookie) who have definitely won games for their teams so far: Jennings, Evans, Thornton/Brown, maybe Ty Lawson, but so far Gallo has just shown he’s worthy of good minutes on a last place team.
Again, not a bad pick, but if the price is right, I’d trade him. Especially since he’s likely to be overvalued thanks to all the PR and because an average player among bums is gonna look exceptional.
by beelove on Nov 24, 2009 3:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I don't know
I just like the look on his face. He’s competetive, on offense and defense. He can shoot. He’s 6’ 10". He looks to have a feel for the game. He likes passing. He doesn’t shy away from contact. He’s got personality. Yes, he’s not winning games for them, but he’s not really been given the chance. He’s also respectful of veterans. Maybe a bit too respectful. Sure, he’s not a great ballhandler and does not appear to be athletic. We may be overrating him but still, even the chance that our homegrown Gallo can turn out to be an impact player is kind of intoxicating. The idea that we trade him away, just to get rid of Curry’s contract or something, and then he turns out to be an impact player for another team… that would truly kill me worse than Brandon Jennings winning an MVP. So, yes, I’d say Gallo is untouchable, at least this season.
by fuhry on Nov 24, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gallo/Hill/Douglas are untouchable because ...
By rule, very young players with a) up-side & b) affordable contracts, are untouchable.
Unless the Knicks pull off trades for similarly young/inexpensive players, but with more potential, the young-guns are untouchable.
You never trade young plays on long-term inexpensive contracts just to dump bad contracts like Curry or Jeffries.
David Lee is not untouchable because he is on a one year deal and is expected to ask for WAY to much money,; reportedly 10 mill+ a year. Also most scouts rate Lee as having reached his max potential, so this is as good as they think he is ever going to get.
Chandler is not untouchable for every reason Anthony Bonner’s Subpoena said. Honestly I think they should have traded him to Washington for their pick when they had the chance.
by 2010-NYK on Nov 29, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been saying this for awhile...
The Knicks need to look into trading for McGrady towards Feb. The Rockets want expiring contracts, but with Yao’s future still in doubt, Curry for them is not a bad option. Someone said it earlier, Curry is rusty but does not lack talent.
A McGrady (and a 2nd round pick maybe) for Curry, Hughes, Chandler trade would work out well for both teams I believe. Curry gives them an insurance policy in case Yao cannot come back to where he was, Hughes gives them cap flexibility and Chandler gives them another talented wing.
McGrady gives NY more cap space, some energy in New York that a superstar, even if washed up, is there and star players like seeing themselves playing with other star players. McGrady will never command the 20+ mil he once got with all his injuries— maybe he takes a Ron Artest type-friendly deal to play with a superstar. If he likes NY, it could work. Could also be a stretch, but why not?
by scotty2129 on Nov 24, 2009 5:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I tend to agree
I always liked McGrady because he played D as well as O. I don’t think he fits into the me first scoring ball-hog no-D mold. He might actually somewhat return to form, and could be a good piece…. It’s a longshot but if he comes cheap, I think he’s worth a look. I think I’d rather have him than Harrington and Duhon….
by fuhry on Nov 24, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
McGrady + Iverson
Now I’m just making myself smile, but AI is still out there, for $1.3M. I would love to see him and McGrady together on the Knicks. That might actually be a team.
McGrady was soooooo sweet. He was up there with KG, Kobe, Duncan, Carter (in his prime) as a player who would single-handedly win games no matter what. I remember him just popping from 3 ft behind the top of the 3 pt line over and over and you just knew . . . . He could be playing with me and my friends and he would’ve won some games. And then AI! oh I fear I am getting old and nostalgic. But I’d rather the knicks be a keepsake team then a total throwaway.
by beelove on Nov 24, 2009 6:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i don't really care about McGrady's ability
or lack thereof. the only thing i see in any of these trades is $. with a 3-10 basketball team that has no chance to make the playoffs, that’s how the Knicks should be looking at it as well. this isn’t about improving the team for 2009-10 – it’s about freeing up more monopoly money for this summer.
so $22M expiring for a 2nd round pick, 2 yr/$1.25, 2 yr/$10.5M, and $13.5M expiring seems to make sense to me. (that’s McGrady for a 2nd rounder, Chandler, Curry, and Hughes)
i’m not sure if the Rockets would do that deal, but i can’t imagine them getting any semi-attractive trade packages for an injury-prone 30-year old with a ton of tread on his tires.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Nov 24, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
correction...
should’ve said not a lot of tread left on his tires. i suck at analogies, but you get what i mean.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Nov 24, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lmfao
the only way dantoni allows tmac into his locker room is if it means the other piece of garbage leaves and tmac replaces him as another banishment. if they take curry/jeffries then the trade is worthwhile. i swear to god im going to commit suicide if we pull off yet another salary dump move and next year we still end up without the prize. tht wud be heartbreaking
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 24, 2009 8:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
sign me
im a point guard who made 6 for 8 three pointers in a game once… (and shoots 20% fg rest of the time lol) and also injury prone
I would fit right in
by Jay Jordo on Nov 28, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
McGrady + Iverson
We need to get T-Mac & Iverson. i read in a interview with koby that new york aint never had a superstar nba player like him or lebron, and dwade, tmac could be and iverson. im just saying give up dohun and darko for T-Mac, and sign ive vets minimum and we could be like the next boston, trust me…
by choplo on Nov 29, 2009 1:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
it could work
if every one just submit to the fact that there is no i in team and team work makes the dream work, we could be making some noise in the eastern confrence.
by choplo on Nov 29, 2009 1:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
NY should just hold open tryouts
Who needs Mcgrady — this is one of the basketball capitals in the world. You telling me our blacktops aren’t full of showboating highschoolers, bearded dads with hook shots, asians who play crazy defense, mexcians who shoot two handed jump shots, white boys who run the pick and roll, russians who swing sweaty elbows etc etc etc — who are better than Jefferies, Darko, Duhon and so on?
by beelove on Nov 30, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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