Wednesday Mouflons

by Seth on Nov 25, 2009 11:29 AM EST in News Comment 12 comments

For various reasons, I ended up missing last night's Knicks-Lakers showdown. That being the case, I've got no recap for y'all. Instead, let's take a look at last night's results and other odds and ends with a little help from my friends.

- Silver Screen and Roll:

When the New York Knicks come to town, you kinda know you're in for a ludicrous night. Then on the first possession of the game you notice Wilson Chandler, who would be the second-string small forward on a decent team, trying to guard Pau Gasol in the post, and you realize you've misjudged the whole Knicks Experience. They're just so much worse than you'd ever think possible.

- Alan Hahn:

Mike D'Antoni is clearly out of answers as to what to do with Duhon, but it seems like pulling Chris completely out of the lineup is not an option.

D'Antoni clearly doesn't trust Nate Robinson (5 assists, 1 turnover in 26:36) at the point and rookie Toney Douglas, who played very well in what started out as garbage time but wound up making the final score seem a lot less unsightly, has yet to show he can run an offense for anything other than creating his own shot. Case in point, he had zero assists in 16:50.

- Bandwagon Knick:

I was personally impressed with the effort of this lineup (outside of Chandler, who ended up 5 for 20), even though it was clear that their ability to cut the huge deficit was a result of the Lakers being hugely disinterested (not to mention that as good as this Laker team is, their bench is lackluster). The young guys are not great playmakers (so for all the screaming of exasperated fans, Duhon is going to keep playing), but their energy was good, and I continue to believe Jordan Hill is a diamond in the rough. His athleticism and spring around the basket completely stand out, and he looked more comfortable defending players like Bynum and Odom than any other Knick.

- Kelly Dwyer, Ball Don't Lie:

90 points per 100 possessions for New York, the team couldn't handle Los Angeles on the glass (the Lakers pulled in 15 offensive rebounds), and the Knicks couldn't take advantage of Los Angeles' pitiful 25 turnovers. The Lakers out-rebounded the Knicks 60 to 36. Decisive.

- And none other than Ron Artest, with the line of the night regarding 2010 free agents, from the NY Post:

[bleep] the media and [bleep] everyone that's putting pressure on them.

That's right. The Knicks are in Sacramento tonight, and I'm not missing two games in a row. Keep checking back and have a wonderful day.

(Photo: Volker.G)

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Starters

Knicks need to find a starting line up.They have been outscored by more than 40 points by other team starting line up in most games , no way they can win like that .

by nickyb4898 on Nov 25, 2009 12:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

How about their most efficient scorers?

Douglas – Robinson – Gallinari – Lee – Hill

by fuhry on Nov 25, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

sounds good to me!

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by stingy d on Nov 25, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm all for the youth movement

but that lineup would get absolutely slaughtered. I’d settle for simply dropping Jefferies from the rotation and cutting Duhon’s time in half. The season will be lost completely in a few weeks anyway, so we’ll have plenty of time to start the rooks.

"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy

by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Nov 25, 2009 1:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Curious

You could very well be right, especially in the short term, but I think they would figure something out. What’s wrong with that lineup, in your estimation?

by fuhry on Nov 25, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Not that the Knicks

are a defensive juggernaut in any terms, but that lineup is undersized and inexperienced at every position. It also reverses the conventional wisdom of having “energy guys” come off the bench. Imagine if we relied on Duhon and Wil for a spark? We’d be down 30 at the half. I wouldn’t be opposed to having that lineup play together, possibly for extended periods of time, but I think starting them will just ruin their confidence and lose (more) games.

"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy

by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Nov 25, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Keep Duhon on the bench

I’m sick of him attempting three point shots from mid court. He’s supposed to be a play making point guard, not one that throws bricks up every five minutes. I did like what I saw from Hill last night. Nice to see D’Antoni put the kid in for once. Douglas is going to be a good one, I think, and should be getting more minutes. Let’s face it. This team isn’t going to win a lot of games this season and D’Antoni should be playing the kids more to see f they have anything.

by Yankeesjetsfan on Nov 25, 2009 1:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Starting line up

Milicic = center
Lee = pf
Hughes = sg
Danilo = sf
Douglas = pg

off the bench = Curry, Hill,Nate,Harrington, Jeffries and trade Chandler ,Duhon and Landry for a decent point guard .

by nickyb4898 on Nov 25, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

chandler duhon and landry

wouldn’t even get you the goran dragic level exception

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by stingy d on Nov 25, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Just a few months ago, the Knicks could have traded Chandler for the right to draft their new starting PG. Walsh should get fired for not pulling that off. How much has Chandler’s value dropped this year?

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by mindfeck on Nov 25, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs