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Game Thread: Knicks at Kings- 11/25/09

New York Knicks at Sacramento Kings, Nov 25, 2009 10:00 PM EST


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Evening, children. The Knicks follow their loss in L.A. with a matchup against the Kings tonight in Sacramento. The New York beat bros are twittering like fiends, and there are a few bits of news to pass along:
Marc Berman: "Eddy Curry out tonight with knee injury. Denver questionable. Said he felt "a little pain.'' Left knee wrapped in devices."

Jonathan Abrams: "D'Antoni finally conceded that Wilson Chandler's ankle is still bothering him after having bone spurs removed this summer."

So...yeah. Bummer on both counts (although in Wil's case, it's almost more of a relief. He's been playing like someone with a sore ankle).

(Also, Is there such a thing as brain spurs?)

Meanwhile, Sacramento features rookie Tyreke Evans, who is almost guaranteed to have a career night against the Knicks given his ability to drive to the basket. That is unless Mike D'Antoni chooses to let Toney Douglas loose for a little more than usual. Pretty Toney matched up quite ably with Evans in Summer League, and I'd love to see him get a shot at the 4th pick tonight. Sacto's also got a couple of problematic big men in Spencer Hawes and Jason Thompson, the latter of whom more or less resembles what I'd expect from Jordan Hill if he ever got minutes.

Come keep me company in the comments section if you're watching, and also check out Sactown Royalty for the best Kings blogging (and community) on these here internets. Tipoff's at 10. In the meantime, a topic for discussion: Where does tonight rank among the nights of the year most conducive to eating at a restaurant or ordering in? (I almost said "eating out", but I don't think we're collectively mature enough for that.) If I were making turkey et al. for the whole family, I sure as hell wouldn't feel like cooking tonight.

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Good call on Tyreke Evans

All signs point to him ripping us up tonight

by Wildgoose on Nov 25, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions  

arg

…curry cant play 4 straight games. hopefully dantoni will let hill play real minutes tonight.

by ibnyc on Nov 25, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions  

seconded.

he matches up decently with the kings’ big men.

by Seth on Nov 25, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

sigh

How much ya wanna bet Duhon plays 30+ minutes again, Toney plays 10, Hill plays less than 10, and the Knicks lose a close one after Harrington’s 20th and last shot of the night rolls out while Gallo sits on the bench?

I need to see something. Toney 20+ minutes, Gallo 20+ shots, Gimme something here.

by fuhry on Nov 25, 2009 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

Rangers win, you can all switch back to MSG now

by XLII on Nov 25, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

so far he looks awful

by Nolan B on Nov 25, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

really apprehensive. he had two nice drives, both of which he ruined with unnecessary passes.

by Seth on Nov 25, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

how come he seems less confident than he was at the beginning of the season? thats a bizarre reaction to playing well.

by ibnyc on Nov 25, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

playing stupid is contagious, when you are expected to learn from Chris Duhon and Al Harrington it’s easy to get confused.

by Nolan B on Nov 25, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

the way clyde and breen are talking about duhon

you’d think they read the comments and posts you guys write.

by Seth on Nov 25, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

maybe they’ll start referring to gallo as cock.

by ibnyc on Nov 25, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

what the Knicks do is like the opposite of player development

by Nolan B on Nov 25, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

lets be honest, dantoni is not a great coach for young guys. he doesnt seem to trust them very much at all. hes also too singularly focused on winning individual games without much big picture focus. e.g. those crazy short rotations he played with the suns which would always leave nash burnt out by the end of the season.

by ibnyc on Nov 25, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel the same way, what I don’t get though is trusting the “veterans” isn’t helping us in the short term either and these short rotations are killing the rookie’s confidence. Even Gallo who gets decent burn isn’t trusted as anything more than a spot up shooter even though we have seen him do more.

by Nolan B on Nov 25, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Does Al ever hit both free throws?

For a guy who loves to shoot as often as possible he always seems to miss one.

by Nolan B on Nov 25, 2009 10:32 PM EST reply actions  

fundamentals

please… please box out

by gwl on Nov 25, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

AL

that’s god telling you to stop.

by Seth on Nov 25, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe it's time this blog changes its name to "Chucking and ducking"

Because I don’t see no posting in the actual game, at least on the Knick’s end.

by Nolan B on Nov 25, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

Donnie Walsh

Has done nothing good since he traded away Crawford and Z-Bo.

by ibnyc on Nov 25, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions  

Getting rid of Jerome James?

by Nolan B on Nov 25, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

whats the difference he was gonna expire this year anyway.

by ibnyc on Nov 25, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

him and Curry on the same bench takes up too much room
Plus Tim Thomas was useful but we needed a shooting guard and Hughes is hardly the problem this year

by Nolan B on Nov 25, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Just know

That Gus Johnson’s fired up right now- The Knicks need to feed off of Gus

by gwl on Nov 25, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions  

Gallo

is really playing pitiful defense.

by ibnyc on Nov 25, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

Gallo

is really playing pitiful period today. He looks like he doesn’t want to be there.

by Nolan B on Nov 25, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

truly

he’s not a great defender by any stretch, but this is unlike him

by Seth on Nov 25, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

running

everyone makes this argument that we’ve slowed it down this year because we dont have the personnel to run the SSOL offense. but what is the difference between our team makeup this year vs. last year when we were running more? i dont understand this argument at all.

by ibnyc on Nov 25, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

to me

this year and last year are very similar, except some of these jumpers went in last year

by Seth on Nov 25, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

They seemed marginally less stupid last year, but that might have just been luck

by Nolan B on Nov 25, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe youre right seth. i do feel like we pushed the pace more often last year. maybe i made that up in my head though.

by ibnyc on Nov 25, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

its possible

especially since duhon spent part of the year playing well. i just don’t think the difference between this year and last is that dramatic in terms of pace.

by Seth on Nov 25, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

looks bad.

cant watch. going back to houston doin tge hot dog dance. goin back to houston. gotta get me some pants.

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by stingy d on Nov 25, 2009 11:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

"if you don't use it, you lose it"

as soon as westphal called that timeout, i knew it was coming. said it before clyde did.

by Seth on Nov 25, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

Chris Duhon is so bad its actually turned fascinating

Was at the Laker game last night, first time at Staples this year, the contrast between teams is unimaginably stark

by sean8686 on Nov 25, 2009 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

The biggest disappointment so far has been Gallo

He looks like he quit on the team already. I wouldn’t blame him but damn, we are holding the poor guy back.

by Nolan B on Nov 25, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions  

It seems like no one on the team actually likes each other. This would probably be particularly tough for a 20 year old kid from abroad. I’m just making shit up at this point.

by ibnyc on Nov 25, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

i saw two problems in the first half

1. too deferential on offense. he needs to look for his own shot off the dribble (not just threes). we’ve all been saying that all year.
2. too willing to help on defense. he’s like the opposite of david lee. gallo’s been helping off his man far too much, which is why nocioni kept getting open for threes. he might as well stick outside and let the other knicks get embarrassed.

by Seth on Nov 25, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I def agree with both of those points. I’ve also realized that he seems to get his hands up very late. He doesn’t challenge shots until they’ve almost been released.

by ibnyc on Nov 25, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

He got pissed at Lee a lot last year, I think he just gave up and accepted that he won’t play any D

by Nolan B on Nov 25, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

AL

did he not learn as a kid that you dont dribble with your head down? how does he consistently do this?

by ibnyc on Nov 25, 2009 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

hughes

is very blatantly not trying. not even close.

by Seth on Nov 25, 2009 11:31 PM EST reply actions  

sigh

Greene didnt even put on a move, he just turned around and dribbled straight towards the basket.

by ibnyc on Nov 25, 2009 11:33 PM EST reply actions  

on the bright side..

our four most promising young guys are sitting on the bench.

by ibnyc on Nov 25, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

don’t want them to interupt this great defensive display, D’antoni is playing to win!

by Nolan B on Nov 25, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

dont know if you guys knew this...

but dontae (sp?) greene is a superstar.

by ibnyc on Nov 25, 2009 11:38 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone who can pentrate

a little can be a star when they play the Knicks.

by DoctorK16 on Nov 25, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

yes gallo

posting up sergio rodriguez. good.

by Seth on Nov 25, 2009 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

I know you could break him out every night

with this bunch. But I think Francis the vomiting man is needed considering our opponent and general not giving a fuck a defense.

by DoctorK16 on Nov 25, 2009 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

This definitely looks like a Francis the vomiting man night to me

by Nolan B on Nov 25, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

We're playing the Kings

and weren’t even trying on defense.

by DoctorK16 on Nov 25, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

snotvomit

duhon is solid as a rock.

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by stingy d on Nov 25, 2009 11:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

That last drive by Harrington

was just a thing of beauty. Drive on a double team with Gallo wide open on the wing right there on your left. Instead take the offensive foul. How pathetic

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by RedHopeful on Nov 26, 2009 12:11 AM EST reply actions  

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