Game Thread: Knicks vs. Jazz- 11/9/09
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 7:02 PM EST
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Utah Jazz at New York Knicks, Nov 9, 2009 7:30 PM EST
Good evening, all. Tonight's game against the Utah Jazz is important for all sorts of reasons. One is simply that the Knicks have lost three straight since beating the Hornets and desperately need to get back in the win column. Another is the perpetual headache that is the Knicks' 2010 lottery pick, which is headed to Utah. Every loss brings the Jazzes closer to John Wall and Derrick Favors. A loss to Utah would be the absolute worst.
Meanwhile, tonight's game will be preceded by a special feature called "Dinner with Danilo" in which Tina Cervasio eats dinner with Danilo Gallinari and a gathering of his friends and family. You probably shouldn't miss that.
This here thread is for all of you watching the game and, of course, the meal. Stop by throughout the night to comment and head on over to SLC Dunk for all things jazzy.
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Dinner with Danilo
made me crack open a bottle of vino. I believe this will be the highlight of the evening. Getting buzzed before the game starts…this may be the key to surviving 2009!
i think i was just oblivious and
out-of-town over the weekend. but i feel bad that this is the first i’m learning of a blowout loss to Milwaukee.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Nov 9, 2009 7:23 PM EST reply actions
last game
was the first game i didn’t bother to be on time. and i left early.
today i’m not even bothering to watch. of course, i’m still obsessed and will follow any way i possibly can. don’t haz a telekision.
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pirate streaming, arr
sadly I’m in the same boat
you got a line on anythign viable?
atdhe and justin.tv are playing games iwth me right now
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http://howmuchyouthink.tumblr.com/
nice little msg graphic
showing that the next three knick match-ups are all against semi-dysfunctional teams. utah, atlanta, and golden state are all struggggggglingggggggg.
Joe Namath shout-out?
"I'll probably go get lifted right now with Greg. Hey, and come back tomorrow and try to get another win."
-Renaldo
by solanumbrella on Nov 9, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'd just like to go on record before this game starts...
and say that knowing the Knicks, they will probably win this one in a close, hard-fought battle. Simply because they played some of the worst basketball ever to grace FSN Wisconsin, or whatever the fuck their channel is called. This is simply the way the Knicks play. There is no real explanation.
Or maybe they will just lose again. Yeah, probably. Either way, it’s depressing.
it was part 1 of 2
it was mostly vittorio (danilo’s dad) talking about his time with mike d’antoni and tina cervasio doing her best to speak italian. super awkward/awesome.
oh my god oh my god
i can’t stress enough how excited i am for this movie “the blind side”. good lord.
I'd rather be him called a rookie than a flop last year
because I’ve heard that. apparently his inability to dominate with a bad back means he must be another worthless soft euro
that's about par for the course
Utah is at least a year behind the rest of the world. the election of Obama is just breaking there.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Nov 9, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
i was just flipping around
and saw Isiah Thomas’ face on ESPNU.
there should be some sort of a warning for that shit.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Nov 9, 2009 7:51 PM EST reply actions
same problem.
only they make me drink from the time i wake up. and i wake up early.
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wont be long before duhon is backing up douglas…
by Knicks Fan in OZ on Nov 9, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions
im having that discussion now
didn’t he have a break where rudy tomjanovich coached? does that count?
i was thinking lawrence frank.
Douglas >>>>>>>>>> Duhon
just stating the obvious
Yep
Du needs to be traded or cut or something
DO WHAT JOSE REYES DO!!!
by Jadden Hopkins on Nov 9, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
He's the only one who makes them
DO WHAT JOSE REYES DO!!!
by Jadden Hopkins on Nov 9, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
seems like the knicks block a lot of shots these days
defense is still a little porous, but at least they’re getting better.
duhon is a liability no matter where he is on the court…i could see him as a knicks backup next year if he’s cheap, but otherwise, forget about him. he’s rubbing his head on his own ceiling.
chandler will be back.
no way he plays as bad as the start of the season, and he’s got plenty of room to improve. plus i think that ankle surgery has been messing with his timing for the start.
Why is Gallo constantly being subbed in and out?
That play was nice even if it didn’t go in, but how is he supposed to get involved with the flow of the game if he gets subbed in and out every 2 minutes?
I’ve gotten used to first half blowouts already, I’m sure we will make a 4th quarter run so our loss will look more respectable than it was.
make that 1-12
DO WHAT JOSE REYES DO!!!
by Jadden Hopkins on Nov 9, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
how do you guys maintain your dignity when people make fun of the knicks?
i usually just admit tht its a mess and throw alot of the blame on isiah thomas
yea but it rly has come to the point where when u tell them your a knicks fan theyll give a look like omg why they suck. and it doesnt help tht i was like 9 years old last time we were contenders
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Many years ago
I moved to Atlanta. But I maintained my NY sports allegiance, and my 11 y.o. son, being the great guy that he is, hangs with my teams as well. This year he has finally said “Dad, I think I’m going to be a Hawks fan. I don’t really like the Hawks but the kids at school are making fun”. Poor kid. I told him to go for it. As for me, having grown up with the greatest Knicks teams in the 70’s (I was at the Willis Reed game against the Lakers and the triple OT playoff win against the Celtics) have no choice but to stick with them.
i usually just curse and weep. is that dignity?
seriously though, it wont be bad for much longer. true fans got to look to the future too.
yea. hopefully the basketball gods r cooking up something special for ny
the fact that the nets are coming here just pisses me off more. jason kidd made me hate an entire franchise
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
lol Forget the talk about how to handle fragile egos in tough times like these --
just link them to game threads.
ive been to a game and all i remember seeing him do is stand around waiting for a rebound
he rly doesnt put in much effort. they dont show it on the screen but in real life you can see how lackadaisical they all are on d
fuck you al.
didnt the first ten bricks make it obvious youre not having a good game. if he makes another pass we get another open shot.
Coincidence. Few nights ago there was a MSG show about great Knick comebacks
and the one they showed was from, I think 1973 against these Bucks when they made a huge 4th Q charge and came back from like 13 or something.
i remember another game against the bucks i think
we were down by 30 something. final score was in our favor. biggest comeback in team history. i recall this was during tim thomas’s first tenure here wit us
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
as brainless as Al can be I’d trust him to keep a lead over Dave “The Doorman” Lee, who only cares about the rebound
seriously go to a game and look at lee on defense
all he cares about is the ball. nothing else matters not even the man hes “guarding”
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
yeah. eventually he'll get rebounds like lee and play better d than harrington.
not ready yet i guess
how about the way hughes and douglas really penetrate off the pick and roll play… duhon is just not the athlete those guys are.
by Knicks Fan in OZ on Nov 9, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply actions
hate to keep bashing duhon but...
… he just doesnt get it done on either end. we havent had solid d in the back court since sprewell.
hughes and douglas need to get the bulk of the minutes… even when n8 comes back.
by Knicks Fan in OZ on Nov 9, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
practice
The team need to practice more
Play 3 quarter of 5 on 5 prior to tip off, then let the team go out to play 4 quarters
by a hay on Nov 9, 2009 9:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
my little league team was like tht
it wasnt until after 10 runs and a buncha errors and walks that we would start bustin ass.
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks Al
As the immortal Chris Rock said, When Al Harrington is your go to guy, your totally fucked (or something like that)
Brewer, wide open shot
this has heart break written all over it
say what you want but all the guys we got on our roster seem to be good hearted guys.
we may not ooze confidence and victory. but atleast we stay classy
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
still a little too much stupidty for my liking
but still, for the most part their hearts are in the right place. If we are going to lose I’d rather it be with these guys than miserable head cases like Starbury and Zach.
Damn they were down by 21 at one point
I’m glad I missed it. TD seems to be DWTDD
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omg
toney fucking douglas. when you guys were first drooling over him all the positive things you said about him reminded me of mardy collins. but this guy can fucking ball.
al harrington for all his years in the league still hasnt learned what a good shot is
by Knicks Fan in OZ on Nov 9, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions
definitely go for the win. a loss wont matter much since were on a losing streak
but if we win itll be a big confidence boost
breen makes a good point
jazz are in the penalty…not a bad idea to drive. i’d let toney give it a spin.
I KNEWWW I sense heart break in here somewhere
Just when they got me believing….
I think whats becoming clear is that the young guys should have a MUCH larger role on this team
the “veteran savvy” and “experience factors” around guys like Al, Jeffries, Duhon et al is just overrated
Larry Hughes
TO too much and miss too many in the last 5
he was more positive then negative. right now hes doing a good job.
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
he plays well with Toney too
Since they can handle point duties. Toney has great handles and a high iq but he’s not a great passer. You can see why Douglas grew up idolizing Joe Dumars, he’s basically a tough undersized SG who can handle point duties but would be best used if he can split them with Hughes or Nate.
Plus Hughes and Toney make an outstanding defensive back court
Ahhh...
What could lift a young man’s spirits after his first game-losing shot like being consoled by Jared Jeffries in a white headband?
by SamH on Nov 9, 2009 9:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Quick Question
Name the Knick who most often evokes your most vitriol screams at the TV
Al Harrington is mine by a clean mile, its not even close
yeah no doubt
look… he competes but its all ego. 4 – 14 with half of those shot coming off plays where he killed the ball movement by facing up and going one on one.
Al is a smart guy who says all the right things to the media types and he might be a really chill guy off the court. But what he does ON the court is what matters to me. Whether or not he realizes it he is a chemistry killer because he goes out to get his… AL is all ego on the court and it makes me sick.
notice how people stopped putting AL and Larry Hughes in the same group of players. Larry might think he is better than he is but you can tell in his mind he respects the players around him. He not only sets up other guys off his dribble drives… he is looking to do it before the ball hits the floor. Its a mindset AL just doesn’t have.
I scream at AL’s poor decisions most of the game.
needless to say this is a big fat cosign. I know AL can ball and I never thought you could refer to a guy who drops the occasional 40pt game a problem for his team. but thats what AL is and hopefully he gets moved to a team that can use his offensive explosiveness.
by Knicks Fan in OZ on Nov 9, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
I think his heart is in the right place, but he only knows how to serve himself when he’s playing. He thinks he’s better than he is and feels like forcing everything himself is the best option. Like Crawford he’d be great on a team that could ride him when he’s hot [no homo] off the bench, but we can’t afford to be killing the flow with him.
It wasn’t right that he got to stay in and kill offense when Gallo was frozen out after making two great plays in a row.
Toney Douglas = Joe Dumars 2.0
As long as he can share point duties with Hughes, Nate or Gallo he should definitely be starting
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gallo allstar potential
lee allstar potential
toney douglas too early to establish a ceiling
nate 6th man of the year potential
lebron would be crazy to say no to such adorable faces
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