Game Thread: Knicks vs. Jazz- 11/9/09
Utah Jazz at New York Knicks, Nov 9, 2009 7:30 PM EST
Good evening, all. Tonight's game against the Utah Jazz is important for all sorts of reasons. One is simply that the Knicks have lost three straight since beating the Hornets and desperately need to get back in the win column. Another is the perpetual headache that is the Knicks' 2010 lottery pick, which is headed to Utah. Every loss brings the Jazzes closer to John Wall and Derrick Favors. A loss to Utah would be the absolute worst.
Meanwhile, tonight's game will be preceded by a special feature called "Dinner with Danilo" in which Tina Cervasio eats dinner with Danilo Gallinari and a gathering of his friends and family. You probably shouldn't miss that.
This here thread is for all of you watching the game and, of course, the meal. Stop by throughout the night to comment and head on over to SLC Dunk for all things jazzy.
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Dinner with Danilo
made me crack open a bottle of vino. I believe this will be the highlight of the evening. Getting buzzed before the game starts…this may be the key to surviving 2009!
by Shivling on Nov 9, 2009 7:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
substance abuse and knicks gamenight
are like peanut butter and jelly
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think i was just oblivious and
out-of-town over the weekend. but i feel bad that this is the first i’m learning of a blowout loss to Milwaukee.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Nov 9, 2009 7:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
well, for my part,
i’ve dropped the ball on the last three games. shit just coincided.
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
last game
was the first game i didn’t bother to be on time. and i left early.
today i’m not even bothering to watch. of course, i’m still obsessed and will follow any way i possibly can. don’t haz a telekision.
twitter.com/aighttho
http://howmuchyouthink.tumblr.com/
by stingy d on Nov 9, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
pirate streaming, arr
sadly I’m in the same boat
by Nolan B on Nov 9, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you got a line on anythign viable?
atdhe and justin.tv are playing games iwth me right now
twitter.com/aighttho
http://howmuchyouthink.tumblr.com/
by stingy d on Nov 9, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike needs to start TD over Duhon
Lets get some fresh blood in their
DO WHAT JOSE REYES DO!!!
by Jadden Hopkins on Nov 9, 2009 7:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
nice little msg graphic
showing that the next three knick match-ups are all against semi-dysfunctional teams. utah, atlanta, and golden state are all struggggggglingggggggg.
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Joe Namath shout-out?
"I'll probably go get lifted right now with Greg. Hey, and come back tomorrow and try to get another win."
-Renaldo
by solanumbrella on Nov 9, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd just like to go on record before this game starts...
and say that knowing the Knicks, they will probably win this one in a close, hard-fought battle. Simply because they played some of the worst basketball ever to grace FSN Wisconsin, or whatever the fuck their channel is called. This is simply the way the Knicks play. There is no real explanation.
Or maybe they will just lose again. Yeah, probably. Either way, it’s depressing.
by SamH on Nov 9, 2009 7:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
it was part 1 of 2
it was mostly vittorio (danilo’s dad) talking about his time with mike d’antoni and tina cervasio doing her best to speak italian. super awkward/awesome.
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh my god oh my god
i can’t stress enough how excited i am for this movie “the blind side”. good lord.
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'll have to bring some onions for cover
when I weep like a schoolgirl
by Shivling on Nov 9, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
utah broadcast called gallo a rookie
so weak
by babyeater26 on Nov 9, 2009 7:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather be him called a rookie than a flop last year
because I’ve heard that. apparently his inability to dominate with a bad back means he must be another worthless soft euro
by Nolan B on Nov 9, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's about par for the course
Utah is at least a year behind the rest of the world. the election of Obama is just breaking there.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Nov 9, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i was just flipping around
and saw Isiah Thomas’ face on ESPNU.
there should be some sort of a warning for that shit.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Nov 9, 2009 7:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I didn't want to get drunk tonight, but it looks like these guys are giving me no choice
by Nolan B on Nov 9, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
same problem.
only they make me drink from the time i wake up. and i wake up early.
twitter.com/aighttho
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by stingy d on Nov 9, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wont be long before duhon is backing up douglas…
by Knicks Fan in OZ on Nov 9, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the second longest should be phil jackson
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 8:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
im having that discussion now
didn’t he have a break where rudy tomjanovich coached? does that count?
i was thinking lawrence frank.
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i wanna see toney put it on the floor
these gumps can’t hang
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
what was wrong with that zone?
where’d it go?
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Douglas >>>>>>>>>> Duhon
just stating the obvious
by Nolan B on Nov 9, 2009 8:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Du needs to be traded or cut or something
DO WHAT JOSE REYES DO!!!
by Jadden Hopkins on Nov 9, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i hate duhon. by benchin him for the rest of the season atleast douglas can improve. we areadi know duhon aint gona be bak here next year. ill go as far as to say there is zero chance he is ever given a starting spot ever again
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 8:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
were down by 11 we shud be takin high percentage shots. only person who should be chuckin threes is gallo
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 8:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He's the only one who makes them
DO WHAT JOSE REYES DO!!!
by Jadden Hopkins on Nov 9, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
seems like the knicks block a lot of shots these days
defense is still a little porous, but at least they’re getting better.
duhon is a liability no matter where he is on the court…i could see him as a knicks backup next year if he’s cheap, but otherwise, forget about him. he’s rubbing his head on his own ceiling.
by Ray Smuckles on Nov 9, 2009 8:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
no way duhon is back on this squad. mark my words
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 8:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i would think not
unless he really picks it up this year
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What's his contract situation?
Do they need to trade him, or just not resign the guy?
by Martha on Nov 9, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he's expiring
so, they’d just let him walk
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think all of our players r going to be let go. only people getting resigned are lee n nate. and even nate as much as i love him isnt for sure
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
neither of them is for sure
the bartelstien fiasco this last summer shows that
by babyeater26 on Nov 9, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
chandler will be back.
no way he plays as bad as the start of the season, and he’s got plenty of room to improve. plus i think that ankle surgery has been messing with his timing for the start.
by Ray Smuckles on Nov 9, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
of course he will be back
he isnt a free agent
by babyeater26 on Nov 9, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is Gallo constantly being subbed in and out?
That play was nice even if it didn’t go in, but how is he supposed to get involved with the flow of the game if he gets subbed in and out every 2 minutes?
by Nolan B on Nov 9, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
good question
i wonder if they’re still watching his back?
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm pretty content with this 17-point hole
that also says something
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah.
could have been 10 without that lousy finish
by Ray Smuckles on Nov 9, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve gotten used to first half blowouts already, I’m sure we will make a 4th quarter run so our loss will look more respectable than it was.
by Nolan B on Nov 9, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
0-11 for 3's
awful
DO WHAT JOSE REYES DO!!!
by Jadden Hopkins on Nov 9, 2009 8:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
make that 1-12
DO WHAT JOSE REYES DO!!!
by Jadden Hopkins on Nov 9, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how do you guys maintain your dignity when people make fun of the knicks?
i usually just admit tht its a mess and throw alot of the blame on isiah thomas
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yea but it rly has come to the point where when u tell them your a knicks fan theyll give a look like omg why they suck. and it doesnt help tht i was like 9 years old last time we were contenders
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well
in my case, fandom isn’t a fair weather thing. i don’t have a choice. i love the knicks.
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea idk just being a newyorker gives u soo much more pride about your city and the people who represent you. and our sportsmen rly do represent us in a big way. ive been a knicks fan ever since i first learned what a free throw was.
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Many years ago
I moved to Atlanta. But I maintained my NY sports allegiance, and my 11 y.o. son, being the great guy that he is, hangs with my teams as well. This year he has finally said “Dad, I think I’m going to be a Hawks fan. I don’t really like the Hawks but the kids at school are making fun”. Poor kid. I told him to go for it. As for me, having grown up with the greatest Knicks teams in the 70’s (I was at the Willis Reed game against the Lakers and the triple OT playoff win against the Celtics) have no choice but to stick with them.
by Shivling on Nov 9, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i usually just curse and weep. is that dignity?
seriously though, it wont be bad for much longer. true fans got to look to the future too.
by Ray Smuckles on Nov 9, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea. hopefully the basketball gods r cooking up something special for ny
the fact that the nets are coming here just pisses me off more. jason kidd made me hate an entire franchise
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he is the rock we must build upon
like peter was for the church
by Ray Smuckles on Nov 9, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol Forget the talk about how to handle fragile egos in tough times like these --
just link them to game threads.
by Martha on Nov 9, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
kirilenko's only 2-3 from downtown
definitely let him shoot
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 9:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
anyone else wish it was hill instead of al or jj coming off the bench?
im sure hill does
by Ray Smuckles on Nov 9, 2009 9:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh my God
Harrington just passed the ball
by sean8686 on Nov 9, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ive been to a game and all i remember seeing him do is stand around waiting for a rebound
he rly doesnt put in much effort. they dont show it on the screen but in real life you can see how lackadaisical they all are on d
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
fuck you al.
didnt the first ten bricks make it obvious youre not having a good game. if he makes another pass we get another open shot.
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just tuned in
Another pathetic start I’m guessing followed by TDDWTDD
by runningdonut on Nov 9, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
TD is playing the rest of the 4th qtr
No more Duhon plz
by runningdonut on Nov 9, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
predictions anyone?
knicks win 95-94
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
it'll get close
i know that. the knicks won’t let us off the hook.
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Coincidence. Few nights ago there was a MSG show about great Knick comebacks
and the one they showed was from, I think 1973 against these Bucks when they made a huge 4th Q charge and came back from like 13 or something.
by Shivling on Nov 9, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i remember another game against the bucks i think
we were down by 30 something. final score was in our favor. biggest comeback in team history. i recall this was during tim thomas’s first tenure here wit us
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
atleast al puts in some effort on defense. lee is like a ghost on d
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
as brainless as Al can be I’d trust him to keep a lead over Dave “The Doorman” Lee, who only cares about the rebound
by Nolan B on Nov 9, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
seriously go to a game and look at lee on defense
all he cares about is the ball. nothing else matters not even the man hes “guarding”
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else want to see Hill some more? I mean, why not?
by sean8686 on Nov 9, 2009 9:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah. eventually he'll get rebounds like lee and play better d than harrington.
not ready yet i guess
by Ray Smuckles on Nov 9, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here comes the Cock
Time to win this one!
by Nolan B on Nov 9, 2009 9:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
my msg audio feed is fucking up now
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
crowd excitement
the mics weren’t ready for that
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my God the Knick D
What am I looking at
by runningdonut on Nov 9, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
how about the way hughes and douglas really penetrate off the pick and roll play… duhon is just not the athlete those guys are.
by Knicks Fan in OZ on Nov 9, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hate to keep bashing duhon but...
… he just doesnt get it done on either end. we havent had solid d in the back court since sprewell.
hughes and douglas need to get the bulk of the minutes… even when n8 comes back.
by Knicks Fan in OZ on Nov 9, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FYI. ALmost every Knick is + except Lee and Duhon
who are both -15
by Shivling on Nov 9, 2009 9:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
interesting
has either seen the light of day in the fourth? no, right?
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
holy smokes
still needs less duhon though
by Ray Smuckles on Nov 9, 2009 9:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
practice
The team need to practice more
Play 3 quarter of 5 on 5 prior to tip off, then let the team go out to play 4 quarters
by a hay on Nov 9, 2009 9:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
my little league team was like tht
it wasnt until after 10 runs and a buncha errors and walks that we would start bustin ass.
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Al
As the immortal Chris Rock said, When Al Harrington is your go to guy, your totally fucked (or something like that)
by sean8686 on Nov 9, 2009 9:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Brewer, wide open shot
this has heart break written all over it
by sean8686 on Nov 9, 2009 9:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ok larry
dont try to take over, just do your thing. al…please go away
by Ray Smuckles on Nov 9, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jeffries is a charge taking machine!
http://lionsfood.com/
by Frederic Weis on Nov 9, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jeffries! Not totally worthless- alright!
by sean8686 on Nov 9, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If I was another GM I'd totally trade him for an expiring right now!
by Nolan B on Nov 9, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
say what you want but all the guys we got on our roster seem to be good hearted guys.
we may not ooze confidence and victory. but atleast we stay classy
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
still a little too much stupidty for my liking
but still, for the most part their hearts are in the right place. If we are going to lose I’d rather it be with these guys than miserable head cases like Starbury and Zach.
by Nolan B on Nov 9, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn they were down by 21 at one point
I’m glad I missed it. TD seems to be DWTDD
my site: http://lionsfood.com/
by Frederic Weis on Nov 9, 2009 9:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
omg
toney fucking douglas. when you guys were first drooling over him all the positive things you said about him reminded me of mardy collins. but this guy can fucking ball.
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
al harrington for all his years in the league still hasnt learned what a good shot is
by Knicks Fan in OZ on Nov 9, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Pretty Toney game winning shot?
oh please oh please oh please
by Frederic Weis on Nov 9, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
definitely go for the win. a loss wont matter much since were on a losing streak
but if we win itll be a big confidence boost
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
breen makes a good point
jazz are in the penalty…not a bad idea to drive. i’d let toney give it a spin.
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
im dying out here
harrington chucks the inbounds pass for a game losing brick i think
by Ray Smuckles on Nov 9, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I KNEWWW I sense heart break in here somewhere
Just when they got me believing….
by sean8686 on Nov 9, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why'd he stop driving to the basket?
ah fuck.
by Frederic Weis on Nov 9, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the times they are a changin'
stay positive folks…and classy
by Ray Smuckles on Nov 9, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
need a post-game shower
recap coming tonight
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
thanks for commenting everybody
Do most of What Toney Douglas Do
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Toney is why we were in it
Gallo should have got the ball after the inbounds tho
by runningdonut on Nov 9, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i think i agree
or toney should’ve kept his dribble. oh well.
by Seth on Nov 9, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
mehmet okur and carlos boozer arent the best matchups to throw at gallo knowing hes essentially a rookie-esque with a back tht might still be vulnerable
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
but he doesn’t kill ball movement like Al
by Nolan B on Nov 9, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
plus his defense was hardly his problem and was beginning to get some offense going in the 4th
by Nolan B on Nov 9, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AK was guarding Gallo
At least at the end
by runningdonut on Nov 9, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think whats becoming clear is that the young guys should have a MUCH larger role on this team
the “veteran savvy” and “experience factors” around guys like Al, Jeffries, Duhon et al is just overrated
by sean8686 on Nov 9, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Larry Hughes
TO too much and miss too many in the last 5
by a hay on Nov 9, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
he was more positive then negative. right now hes doing a good job.
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he plays well with Toney too
Since they can handle point duties. Toney has great handles and a high iq but he’s not a great passer. You can see why Douglas grew up idolizing Joe Dumars, he’s basically a tough undersized SG who can handle point duties but would be best used if he can split them with Hughes or Nate.
Plus Hughes and Toney make an outstanding defensive back court
by Nolan B on Nov 9, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh...
What could lift a young man’s spirits after his first game-losing shot like being consoled by Jared Jeffries in a white headband?
by SamH on Nov 9, 2009 9:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Quick Question
Name the Knick who most often evokes your most vitriol screams at the TV
Al Harrington is mine by a clean mile, its not even close
by sean8686 on Nov 9, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah no doubt
look… he competes but its all ego. 4 – 14 with half of those shot coming off plays where he killed the ball movement by facing up and going one on one.
Al is a smart guy who says all the right things to the media types and he might be a really chill guy off the court. But what he does ON the court is what matters to me. Whether or not he realizes it he is a chemistry killer because he goes out to get his… AL is all ego on the court and it makes me sick.
notice how people stopped putting AL and Larry Hughes in the same group of players. Larry might think he is better than he is but you can tell in his mind he respects the players around him. He not only sets up other guys off his dribble drives… he is looking to do it before the ball hits the floor. Its a mindset AL just doesn’t have.
I scream at AL’s poor decisions most of the game.
needless to say this is a big fat cosign. I know AL can ball and I never thought you could refer to a guy who drops the occasional 40pt game a problem for his team. but thats what AL is and hopefully he gets moved to a team that can use his offensive explosiveness.
by Knicks Fan in OZ on Nov 9, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think his heart is in the right place, but he only knows how to serve himself when he’s playing. He thinks he’s better than he is and feels like forcing everything himself is the best option. Like Crawford he’d be great on a team that could ride him when he’s hot [no homo] off the bench, but we can’t afford to be killing the flow with him.
It wasn’t right that he got to stay in and kill offense when Gallo was frozen out after making two great plays in a row.
by Nolan B on Nov 9, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Toney Douglas = Joe Dumars 2.0
As long as he can share point duties with Hughes, Nate or Gallo he should definitely be starting
by Nolan B on Nov 9, 2009 10:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
g
gallo allstar potential
lee allstar potential
toney douglas too early to establish a ceiling
nate 6th man of the year potential
lebron would be crazy to say no to such adorable faces
by karamjitm9090 on Nov 9, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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