Bobcats 94, Knicks 87
Annnnd they're back! In a game that could've pushed the New York's streak to 5 and subdued the upstart Bobcats, the Knicks shat themselves down the stretch. In one of the uglier games I can remember, the Knicks held a double-digit lead for stretches of the second half, only to completely fold in the closing period.
Tonight's contest was a game of quarters, so I'll break it down into fourths for ya.
Notes, after the jump...
1st Quarter- Al Harrington had a touch of food poisoning today, and was reportedly vomiting in the locker room minutes before tip-off. Clearly, he knew what was coming.
- The Knicks had absolutely zero offensive flow in the opening period. Much like the previous game against New Orleans, the multiple days of rest left time for rust to form, and thing were uggggly. New York gave away 9 turnovers in the first, and would've been down double digits if Chris Duhon wasn't banging jumpers like a champ. Du dropped 11 in the first quarter.
- Gerald Wallace got all kinds of silly in the first quarter. When he wasn't getting to the line, Wallace was picking off lazy Knick passes and darting the other way for easy transition hoops. He came away with 15 points in the first, and even managed to break Al Harrington's streak of 23 straight games as the player on the court with the most revolting mouthguard habits.
- Those transition buckets were a major key to Charlotte's win. The Knicks actually played decent halfcourt defense for most of the night, but kick-started too many Bobcat breaks with unforced giveaways.
- Pretty sure Walt Frazier's jacket tonight was based on the evil half of Two-Face's suit.
- Credit the Knicks with an uncharacteristic amount of shot-blocking in the first quarter. A bunch of New York's 10 rejections came in the opening minutes.
2nd Quarter
- Through the end of the first and the beginning of the second, Eddy Curry played 6 unproductive minutes. Larry Hughes and Chris Duhon simply couldn't find him in position, and a combination of haphazard passing and failure on Curry's part to step into his catches made for numerous turnovers.
- Curry did block a shot, though, which momentarily scrambled my nervous system and caused blood to pour out of my ears.
- I really can't emphasize strongly enough how lazy the passing was, particularly in the first half. Hughes alone managed 4 turnovers in his first 6 minutes, most of which came on telegraphed passes in the backcourt. Gerald Wallace owes Larry a drink or something.
3rd Quarter
- After avoiding disaster and escaping the first half with a one-point edge, the Knicks buckled down in the third. Jared Jeffries keyed New York's best defensive quarter in a big way. Jared drew charges (did you know he leads the league in those?), blocked shots (finished with 2 on the game), and most importantly, disrupted the Bobcats' passing (6 steals on the game). Jeffries was a key cog in the zone defense that D'Antoni employed most successfully in the third. He roamed the middle of the floor and got those octopussy limbs of his on just about every airborne ball.
- With the effective zone came better passing. The Knicks were able to push the pace just a bit, and players big and small were dishing effectively.
- Clyde's summary of the superb quarter gets its own bullet point: "Parsimonious defense, harmonious offense". Terrific.
- He may be a bloodsucking, child-eating creature of the underworld, but the demon-coach sure does have Raymond Felton and D.J. Augustin playing great on-the-ball defense. Chris Duhon managed to keep his cool for the most part, but those two made everything difficult.
- The way Clyde and MIke Breen were getting all worked up, you'd think two players had never shared the same last name before. The presence of both Tyson and Wilson Chandler nearly made Breen bite his tongue off.
- Danilo Gallinari left his jump shot in New Orleans. It seems like every fourth or fifth game Gallo gets in his own head and aims his jumpers. Just shoot, Gallo. Don't think twice. Don't even think once.
4th Quarter
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- No joke, I almost got all Al Harrington in this piece. At the behest of the game thread commenters, I posted and toasted a double-decker PB&J sandwich at halftime, and it damn near resurfaced in the fourth quarter. The Knicks, once up double figures, got outscored 28-13 in a collapse well deserving of Francis the Vomiting Man.
- The Knicks simply couldn't secure rebounds, and allowed the Cats second, third, and fourth opportunities to score just about every time down.
- Jared Jeffries fouled out with under 3 minutes left on an iffy charge-block decision and the defense promptly fell to pieces. The fallback option for post defense was David Lee which, as you can imagine, did not go very well. After Charlotte came back to tie it, Raymond Felton hit two consecutive uncontested layups to give the Bobcats the edge. Jared Jeffries is the end-all be-all of Knicks help defense.
- Meanwhile, the Knicks' late-game offense was buoyed by threes from Jared Jeffries and Wilson Chandler, which is evidence enough that Charlotte was bound to steal this one. The improved passing and shooting from the third quarter went down the drain, all while Danilo Gallinari rode the pine. I get that Gallo was cold, but c'mon now.
- I've really toned down my violent reactions to Knick losses over the years, but I ended up throwing a jar of Play-Doh at the wall just after the final buzzer. Now that I think about it, that's one of the stranger things I've ever thrown at a wall, although I'm pretty sure I drop-kicked an Elio's pizza back in '04.
- 15-2 Bobcats run to end the fourth, just in case you were wondering. I guess that makes up for the big run in New Orleans on Friday.
It was just one loss, but this one really, really stung. The Knicks are at it again on Thursday against the Bulls, and they better be back in streak-building mode.
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On a slightly different note
With the rumor surfacing today about augustine I was looking forward to seeing him play a bit to kind of see what exactly I would be willing to give up for this guy… I came away not impressed at all, he played 10 min or so no points no assists the only imprint he had on the game was a foul. Now I understand its a small sample size or whatever but really he played 10 min and the only mark he leaves is a foul? I would think when your mentioned in a trade it should light a fire under you at least enough to work hard while your in there. Now I know stats don’t tell the whole story but I watched the game and I honestly saw nothing that he did was enough to think man we should get this guy. I feel like if we are going to try and find a point guard we should look somewhere else because I wouldn’t give up much to get this guy.. anything other than maybe landry or a bigger deal involving jefferies in which we take back expirings and augustine or I wouldn’t do it. What do you guys think…. Seeing that we play the bobcats again in a few days maybe D.J. can prove me wrong but from what I saw tonight he needs to work harder than what he did tonight
Just awful
A win tonight would’ve given the Knicks a chance to get the 8th seed Thursday against a free-falling Chicago Bulls. But this exactly what this decade’s knicks do – let you down in a big way in the biggest spots.
We can make up for it this weekend with 3 easy games, including a revenge game at home against the bobcats, which I’ll be attending.
Playoff Possiblities
I made a fan post showing our place in the standings, what games to watch the scores of, and how we can get to the 8th seed, maybe I’ll do it daily.
http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2009/12/16/1202734/knicks-playoff-position-12-16-09
thumbsup for the Elio's Pizza reference.
3 sets of 3 rectangular pieces of pizza. One of the great processed food products of all time.
they were so good
i used to cut them with scissors and then burn my tongue.
tough loss
no doubt.
But losses happen, it was a sloppy game and had JJ not fouled out it could have been much different.
But you can stuff your sorry’s in a sack. A few wins this week and it is no big deal. Knick teams of the past bunch of years would get depressed and let the loss carry over. If this team is actually different, then they will take the loss in stride and let it motivate them.
Gotta put this one on Mike
I usually have nothin but love for Pringles, but I think last nights loss can be attributed solely to his reluctance to switch out of the zone when the Bobcats made their run i the 4th.
For most of the 2nd half, the Knicks zone made Charlotte take contested jumpers or forced the Bobcats to drive to the lane where they would inevitably barrel into JJ for an offensive foul.
Once JJ fouled out (after the game of his life btw – Breen was LOVING him some Jared Jeff), I really think D’Antoni should have switched back to man-to-man, or kept the zone and put in a big man who could play the middle (read: NOT David Lee or Al). Instead, the Knicks kept the zone, and let Felton drive for 2 easy, and crucial, layups inside the 2 minute mark. Then the Knicks began to hang their heads and jack up ill-advised shots instead of dishing and swishing.
But hey, its 1 game. Ce la vie. We’ll go get em again in Chicago.
by spinningandwinning on Dec 16, 2009 10:06 AM EST reply actions
How horrible
was Lee’s defense on those killer drives by Felton at the end of the game?
I used to think he didn’t care about defense, but now I think he just is ignorant about it.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Dec 16, 2009 10:23 AM EST reply actions
He's not the best
shot blocker – but IMO make sup for it with his offensive abilities and knack for getting boards. I think he doesn’t really swat shots because he focuses on blocking out his man to get the board. Not a bad idea if we actually had a center who could own the paint (see: Darko).
by spinningandwinning on Dec 16, 2009 10:26 AM EST reply actions
I didn't see the game but...
from reading a few different recaps, checking the boxscore, and seeing a few highlights one things sort of strikes me. Given all the turnovers early on and that Harrington was pretty damn sick, and seeing how poorly our shooting was….what will it take to bring Nate Robinson, Toney Douglas, or Jordan Hill off the bench? I mean really now. I know Nate is in Marbury-land (is this going to be an annual thing for D’Antoni? Each year a different guy gets banished?) and D’Antoni perfers a short rotation, but c’mon now. Injuries aside, how bad must the Knicks be playing for one of these guys to get off the bench?? When Ray Felton torches past Duhon as easily as he was last night…why not try a better defender in (TD!!!) even if it is for 2 minutes?! Shit, 15-2 run to finish?!
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 16, 2009 10:32 AM EST reply actions
Felton
Didn’t exactly torch past Duhon. Duhon got picked and Lee didn’t switch.
But I agree that it would be better to play some more guys when the folks out there aren’t playing well. Isn’t that pretty basic?
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Dec 16, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
I guess but..,
We looked SO good during the 3rd using the short rotation. The 8 man rotation also is what got us the 4 game win streak. I think you guys overrate TD. He’s not ready for crunch time minutes, although I definitely think he could be used to spell Duhon instead of Hughes, but just not in the 4th.
by spinningandwinning on Dec 16, 2009 10:37 AM EST reply actions
maybe we overrate Douglas...
but when he has gotten crunch time minutes, he has performed and helped bring the team back from being down. He played very well against the Lakers, Magic, Jazz, and Hawks…all solid teams. He also played great against Golden State and Milwaukee. And while i don’t have his +/- figures, we haven’t had too much garbage time.
Couple that with our starting PG playing mostly awful so far and our team looking quite lazy en route to 22 TOs and a 13 pt 4th quarter last night…. why NOT give a hard nosed defender with a .504 FG% a shot?
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 16, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
fair
TD has certainely played well at times and I agree with you that he should have been tossed in at some point in the game just to see whether he had a positive impact.
I think Pringles thought process was, “well, my 8 man rotation has worked for the past 4 wins, so why fix what ain’t broken.”
by spinningandwinning on Dec 16, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
It was horrible!
Larry Brown showed us, that year with the Knicks was his worse! He completely out coached D’Antoni. If you stop the pick and roll, you stop the Knicks! They had no other plays, it seemed. Then in the 4th quarter, the group he had on the floor didn’t know how to play zone together, and there was no communication. It was an awful game to watch. I agree, Douglas should have seen a litle time, at least after Jefferies fouled out. After all that talk about trying to develope our young guys. Douglas maybe our third best defender and he hasn’t seen time in a while. I like the short rotation idea, but Curry comes in and gets Douglas’s minutes and next Bender will get the rest. Only two real guards will be part of this rotation. We need more playmakers on the floor, so Douglas must start getting more time so his confidence stays high.
i am wondering
when the right situation to bring nate back into the mix would be?
I wonder too.
i mean… have Nate’s antics really been THAT bad?! 6 games and counting. Maybe the NY Daily News should change their Days Til Lebron Becomes a FA Countdown to a How Long Will Nate’s Benching Last?
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 16, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
the problem is
it has become something of a show… so when he does come in, its gonna be a big deal.
I feel like its gonna have to be during the 3rd quarter, of a home game, where the knicks are being blown out.
no way
Theres no way nate makes a big deal when he comes back. He’s gotten a pretty big punishment in terms of the number of games he has sat out – so I expect a much more reserved N8 when he steps back on the court.
by spinningandwinning on Dec 16, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
i dont mean nate will make it a big deal
i mean every other person in the arena.
ill be honest
when he would check in, i would be cheering like it was player intros. hes so lovable
It's not going to be until
somebody gets injured.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Dec 16, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
last nite would have been a good time
when u think about it, last nite would have been perfect. we needed some one that could create his own shot, the pick & roll was stoped so it forced the knicks to either move the ball to the open man or create shots, & thats when n8 should have got the nod! did anyone see b4 the game when n8 was TRYING to talk to Dantoni? he wouldnt even look @ n8!!! its one thing to not play a guy, this is more like disrespect. No class!
by FreejordanHill!!! on Dec 16, 2009 4:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
if youre out there...
this goes out to the dude who scoffed at my notions that 1) the bobcats were not the worst eastern team and actually 2) a darkhorse for the playoffs. suck it.
F
but hey, doesn’t it feel good to want to break something after a loss instead of just shrugging your shoulders like we have for the last eight years?
i feel like they’re starting to turn the corner. and by corner, i mean competing for the #8 seed. given this roster, that’s not too shabby.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Dec 16, 2009 10:20 PM EST reply actions

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