Spurs 95, Knicks 88
The Knicks had a couple things going for them tonight, but couldn't quite hang with a Spurs team that got it done when it mattered most. Among the advantages were a packed Madison Square Garden, a San Antonio team that was short of sleep and playing for the second time in 24 hours, and a considerable edge at the free throw line. The Knick defense was actually pretty solid for the most part, but poor offensive execution was too much to overcome.
Jump the jump for some quick notes...
- First of all, these drunk driving commercials that have been running for years always puzzled me. I get the symbolism, but I mostly wonder whether or not state laws actually include "driving while submerged in alcohol (DWSIA)" as a criminal offense. Then again, it's possible that stewing in liquor like that would actually be intoxicating, because the alcohol would seep into your pores or something. I'm in need of some clarification.
- The defense was, in general, not half bad. Many of the Spurs' shots were contested, and David Lee and friends did a decent job bothering Tim Duncan, be it straight up or with a double team. New York forced San Antonio into a lot of long jumpers, which, unfortunately, they went ahead and hit. The Spurs attempted most of their field goals from 16-23 feet out, and connected on 17 of 33 attempts. Antonio McDyess, George Hill, Roger Mason, and Manu Ginobili were all accurate from just inside the arc, and that's pretty much how the Spurs scored points. Again, credit the Knicks into forcing long jumpers, and credit the Spurs with rising to the challenge.
- On the other end, the Spurs stifled the Knicks' bread and butter, defending both Chris Duhon and David Lee perfectly on the pick-and-roll. Fortunately, Du and Dave adjusted appropriately (english muffins and margarine?), with Lee popping out to can mid-range jumpers. Duhon finished with 13 assists, while Lee scored 28 points on superb 11-13 shooting, including 5-6 on jumpers.
- By the way, if you haven't been checking out Hoopdata's new advanced box scores, you're really missing out. It's like porn for basketball nerds. Nothing gets me going like daily TS% for every NBA player. Mmm.
- I'll reiterate that Lee was superb. Besides scoring, Dave pulled down a typical 10 boards, which is no small feat against Tim Duncan and DeJuan Blair. He also put in serious defensive time against Tim Duncan, who wasn't really effective until the end of the game. I've said this before, but perhaps my complaints from earlier in the season should be refined. David Lee is not a horrible defender; he's a horrible help defender. Lee's one-on-one defense is usually passable, especially considering that he's always at a height disadvantage.
- Danilo Gallinari did a swell job at attacking and getting to the line. Gallo's a big target for fouls, and when he gets rolling, he's got the right combination of strength and awkwardness to get calls. He connected on only 8 of his career-high 12 attempts at the stripe, but it was plenty refreshing just to see him make it there. Given that Danilo continues to fade away and misfire on his three-point attempts (1-5 tonight), the aggressive drives are crucial. Meanwhile, I was disappointed, though not entirely surprised, to see Gallinari sit for much of the fourth quarter.
- Jared Jeffries was as pesky as you'd like him to be on defense (2 blocks, a steal, and plenty of good doubles on Duncan), but he was way too involved in the Knick offense. Jeffries was 2-10 from the field, which I think Jared would agree is far too many shots. He was cutting and catching pretty well, but just couldn't elevate or go up strong at the rim, and was only 2-7 on point blank attempts. Why not run Chandler or Gallinari off those screens instead? Is Jeffries really that much better at getting open?
- DeJuan Blair's superb play was a delight to watch, but it really just made me miss Jackie Butler.
- For the time being, I'd have no problem with Jonathan Bender just chilling around the arc for catch-and-shoot threes. He's been accurate from downtown, and doesn't seem comfortable enough yet to do much else, despite his quick flurry of excellence in the Clipper game. D'Antoni clearly fancies him as a sort Jeffries-type player with more offense, but Legs isn't quite there yet. Bender still seems to take every lateral step with the fear of his knees turning to powder, so he probably shouldn't be creating offense or defending point guards at the moment. I'm still of the (perhaps minority) opinion that he deserves minutes, though.
- Speaking of which, the Spurs reserves blew out the Knicks bench, outscoring them 42-21, with 19 of those 21 points coming from Al Harrington. I'm through getting worked up over D'Antoni's short rotation, but there were definitely times tonight when Toney Douglas, Nate Robinson, and Jordan Hill could've been useful.
- Is it just me, or does Ahmad Rashad sound a little like Dave Chappelle? Also, does Roger Mason look a little like Wale? Am I deaf, blind, or both?
- Al Harrington has an odd tendency to point at the wrong basket when balls are tipped out of bounds. This leads me to believe that his internal sense of direction is completely out of whack, which, come to think of it, would explain a lot. Jokes aside, Harrington was a decent 7-13 from the field, but one never really got the feeling that he was working within the flow of the offense.
- The Knick advantage at the line (18-25, as opposed to 9-12 for the Spurs) was partially a function of friendly refs, but also had a lot to do with their insistence on attacking the rim, particularly early on. During stretches when the Knicks got jumper-happy, things went awry. The best example would be a stretch in the early third quarter when New York stopped attacking the rim and the Spurs quickly went up by 10. All it took was some drives, free throws, and tighter defense to regain the lead over the next 6 minutes. Attacking the basket works.
- San Antonio's transition defense, as always, was truly excellent. I swear there were times they had more than five guys on the floor.
- Chris Duhon is easy to lose with a pump fake. I bet he likes magic tricks.
- Alan Hahn points out that this is the 7th straight game in which the Knicks have failed to hit the century mark. They're 3-4 in that stretch.
- Last thought: I'm in Colorado right now, and went out for dinner after the game ended. The restaurant I was at had the Denver-Dallas game playing, and within the half hour or so I was watching, I saw three different local commercials featuring Nuggets personnel. There was a car commercial with George Karl, what looked to be a mattress commercial with Chris Andersen, and a little pizza place promo with Chauncey Billups. All of this made me realize that the Knicks are never in cheesy commercials for local businesses. This is very disappointing. I'd be much more likely to buy a Hyundai Elantra or a Tempur-Pedic mattress if they were promoted by Jared Jeffries dancing or Darko Milicic in a funny hat or something. Even the Nets aren't in commercials around my area. What gives? I don't know if I want to live in an area that's too classy for low-budget commercials buoyed by half-assed appearances from local pro athletes.
Overall, the Knicks did a decent job keeping up with a superior team. Unfortunately, New York couldn't exploit certain advantages, and the Spurs' top guns were just too much down the stretch. I said before tip-off that the Knicks would have to be at the top of their game to take one from the Spurs, and, at least offensively, they were not. Pretty simple. New York plays again on Tuesday in Detroit. Hopefully, the Knicks match up well with the Pistons, because they face them three times in the next 3 weeks. Over and out.
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for one day, i dont care that the knicks lost
the jets made up for it by having the luckiest day of all time. im a happy sports fan for a week.
Loved the Al Harrington breakdown
as I couldn’t agree more. A lot is definitely explained.
It would have been nice to have seen Gallo in the 4th. Through 3 quarters, he was making things happen for the team. After sitting a long time, he came in and you could just tell he wasn’t in the flow. If I’m D’Antoni, I make sure I get him a really good touch/look whatever.
Please, no more Bender. He’s really not helping.
Also, Larry just looked terrible and Duhon shooting FG’s and FT’s late killed the Knicks. Why not give Nate a chance?
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We've already been through this
NATE’S NOT PLAYING ANYMORE.
by mercy on Dec 28, 2009 2:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nate Will Rise again. . .
Good recap. Knicks defense was not that great though. They didn’t actually force the Spurs into long shots, they left the spurs open for long shots. The Spurs are the third highest % tre shooting team in the . It’s what the Spurs do. Duncan on the tail end of a back to back is not his old self and Lee was great with his lateral movement on D, but Duncan can pass out of the double still.
Mercy, we’ll be going through this as long as Nate is with the team. Make no mistake that D’antoni will put Nate in when he figures out that he needs that scoring punch and that his current rotation won’t win him enough games. As vindictive as D’Antoni may be, he is constantly trying to figure out how to win. He needs Nate now and will figure it out in about four games.
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re: long twos
you’re probably right, although if i had to pick open shots for the opponent to take (which is bound to happen with the knicks), i’d take long twos.
nate
i have a feeling MD said to himself that he is going to sit nate for December.
Or – he is waiting for nate to do something in practice to impress him. Something corney like running laps with his teammate when they get in trouble or something. I bet complaining to the press to be traded was NOT what he was looking for.
Nate will play again. The short rotation wasnt bothering me a month ago but it is starting to be a little crazy. I didnt see the game, but I would be money the Knicks looked tired in the 4th Q.
Great recap, Seth. I think you nailed it. Good luck for your Knicks.
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I hadn’t watched the Knicks yet this year, and I was sort of shocked to find that y’all have the makings of a really good team on your hands. Gallo and Lee are terrific, and the Spurs had all they could handle with those two. Good luck in the East—I’d like to see the Knicks make a run at a playoff spot.
And I’m glad you enjoyed watching Blair. We do, too. Who would have thought the Spurs would have a 6’7" rookie starting at center? Good times, good times.
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Im not at all surprised by Blair. He was huge at Pittsburgh. Teams were worried about his knees (or lack thereof), but the Spurs always seem to pull the gems. Pops knows what he’s doing. You guys want nate Robinson? I bet Popovich can bring out he best in him…we sure as hell aren’t.
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by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 28, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
i dont understand
what i do understand is da’s concept of the short rotation…but i dotn agree with that idea on the 2009 knicks.
our roster isnt the most talented, actually, we have good talent on the bench, dwtdd, jhill, and nate..
so playing 7 players for almost 40 mins a game doesnt sit well when the level of talents of the starters isnt that much higher than the talent level of some on the bench.. split the time accordingly.. i know we are trying to build resume for jared jeffries..but hes not makign that big of a difference to where he steals all of hills minutes.. same for duhon, yes hes effective with the pick n roll. but effective enough to take all of douglas’s minutes? even with nate sitting?
’i dont understand
Be careful what you wish for, Seth. I distinctly remember a commercial Oak did for a local car dealership back in the day. This is hard to believe, since the man is made of pure awesome in every conceivable way, but I was slightly embarrassed for him. It was not one of his finer moments.
Rangers, Royals, Raiders, Knicks...the man loves a winner.
Seth, as always, recap is right on
I’m even with you on the using Knicks for crappy cheesy local commercials. I do have confess, I rather enjoy the witty police DWI commercials though. Gota give creative credit where due. I’d like to see how they filled the cars with booze and such, and also got the “participants” to look so entirely hammered. Even down to the peanuts on one of the guys cars, lol.
I particularly like what you briefly mentioned about “getting worked up about the short rotation”. I’m also gonna try to withold my own beefs. Its fruitless. This season we are gonna win some games, blow plenty of leads, lose games we should win, and in the end we MAY squeak a playoff round. I mean, its all in plain sight, and I’m sure the Knicks see it too. They watch the game film. Pringles isn’t stupid. Neither is Walsh. I’m sure they are quick to point out the lack of energy. Or maybe they don’t because they don’t care. I just see too many missed opportunities and i fear injuries will come at the worst of times for us. Guys like Jefferies, harrington and Duhon might get hit with injuries just as their value is enough to trade, and it will fuck things up worse. i hope I’m wrong. I hope we see the bench guys soon. And i hope they come in and bring us a huge win.
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by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 28, 2009 11:50 AM EST reply actions
I was at this game
The energy at the garden was crazy. Just so mad they lost.
Knicks are gonna be really good a year or two from now.
I’d like to see a playoff run by you guys and I gotta give the Knicks credit for truly excellent containment of the best PF in the game.
But you can’t just stop one member of the big 3, let alone dealing with such a deep bench.
However, I was very impressed and I think the Knicks could be something great if they could get a bench put together.
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It's gonna be a long one!
I no longer question D’Antoni’s coaching. He has at least got the Knicks playing defense. Even though they looked dead tired on the floor, they at least play defense. They could win 20 more games with their better defensive play alone. But, for the record, I Don’t think he a good manager of floor time at all. He didn’t handle the Marbury situation well, he’s not handling the Nate situation well. If the Knicks loose more games like we’ve lost the last two, and we’ll be talking about the Douglas situation and the Curry situation. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE LOST THOSE GAMES!!! Is it me or does Hughes look like somthing is wrong with him the last two games. Most of his shots are comming up short. He’s not fully extendng himself when he jumps. He’s lost some quickness on defense. Sounds like a groin injury that hasn’t fully healed. I don’t think an injured Hughes trumps a healthy Douglas. If the Knicks are going to be taken seriously, they are going to need more than a healthy Duhon and a sore Hughes. Nate, Douglas, anybody! We can’t win with 1.6 guards on the court.

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