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Rumor: Knicks in the market for Tyrus Thomas?

This sort of came out of the blue, but Adrian Wojnarowski's a reputable fellow. From Yahoo Sports, Woj's most recent piece focuses on the Bulls' options to ditch Tyrus Thomas. Sure enough, the Knicks are mentioned.

Several sources believe the Bulls are agreeable to a package of Thomas and Jerome James for Knicks forward Al Harrington. Thus far, Walsh has resisted parting with Harrington, but discussions are still active and the teams have explored different combinations in recent days that would ultimately deliver Thomas to the Knicks.

"Nothing is imminent, but both sides would like to figure out a way to do this," one league executive briefed on the talks told Yahoo! Sports.

The Bulls are determined to shed more salary-cap space for the summer of 2010, and believe Harrington’s ability to score coupled with a $10.2 million expiring contract make this a worthy exchange. Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni has long been fond of Thomas, a 6-foot-9 forward whose nimbleness and athleticism makes him an intriguing fit for New York.

Forgive me for getting caught up in the fine print, but...Jerome James!?

As for the actual meat of the deal...I just don't know. Harrington's an expiring contract and Thomas is, I believe, a restricted free agent this summer. If the Knicks were to trade for him then let him walk, it could be a wash financially, though it's hard to see the logic of making such a move unless you're actually interested in keeping the incoming player. As far as actual output, Harrington's tendency to swallow the rock on offense has had P&T up in arms all season. Thomas is more athletic and capable of blocking a shot now and then, which is something we've been missing. Very interesting. Does this sparkle with all you crazy kids? Tyrus has always struck me as someone either love or hate, although I've never really felt that strongly one way or the other about him.

In closing...Jerome James!?

Update: I forgot to mention that Thomas is a few weeks away from returning from a fractured arm. Also, adding two more players with last names that end in "S" might make me rip the apostrophe key off my computer.

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Incidentally

if this were to happen, the Knicks should probably follow it up by doing that deal for Kenny Thomas, just so they’ve been involved with all the Thomases.

by Seth on Dec 3, 2009 11:24 PM EST reply actions  

I'd do it but

isn’t tyrus a headcase? and i don’t know much about him, but im pretty sure all he can do is jump. i just hate harrington so much (as a player) that there isnt a lot i wouldnt do if it were gonna get rid of him.

by thePharcyde on Dec 3, 2009 11:28 PM EST reply actions  

Tyrus has a decent ouside shot

very athletics and can D up.

He plays hard on defense too, kind of like a taller Larry Hughes on that end.

Tyrus is definitely a nice part to have.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 3, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Jerome James

Unbelievable that he’s available, we gotta do whatever we can to get him back in the fold.

But seriously, even if we don’t bring Thomas back, we all can’t stand Harrington so it can’t hurt, and if we (and by we I mean after consulting LeBron to see who he wants on the team with him) decide to bring him back then even better.

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by Dachs on Dec 3, 2009 11:30 PM EST reply actions  

tyrus thomas is good

he was a go-to guy in the playoff series against boston, and he’s getting better every year. He would immediately be our best defender, and he is capable of moving the ball too (way better than good old AL). Wouldnt be surprising if he led the league in blocks in a year or 2.

Only thing i see wrong with it is if his contract bites into our cap space for 2010, but you would figure that he is a guy that the knicks would want to keep anyway if no one offers him a better deal. Also, if he and hill are on the floor at the same time, hill is going to have to play center (which hopefully he is capable of doing).

If it can be done, donnie should definitely try to tack jeffries onto the deal as well, but god knows if he is a piece the bulls want (or have even heard of)

by Ray Smuckles on Dec 3, 2009 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

Nah

Sounds like the Bulls are trying to dump salary, so they probably wouldn’t touch Jeffries with a ten-foot pole.

by Seth on Dec 3, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

you are correct sir

i didnt realize that thomas becomes a restricted FA this summer, so it doesnt affect either of their caps if the knicks choose not to resign him. they would though, d’antoni loves the man apparently.

by Ray Smuckles on Dec 4, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no problem at all.

Assuming Jerome’s contract IS expiring right?

Tyrus Thomas might be very good in the Knicks system. The only thing is…he’s injured with a fractured arm.

Tho…shiiiiit….Getting rid of Al Harrington’s carcass? Who the hell are we kidding, to get Tyrus Thomas out of Al Harrington?

I hope they get this worked out.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 3, 2009 11:43 PM EST reply actions  

why not?

provided that the salaries are a wash, i’m down for this. losing al probably makes us worse in the short-term, but tyrus would really thrive in this system.

and i think this makes a lot of sense for the bulls too, so it really could (should?) happen.

by latrell chokewell on Dec 3, 2009 11:50 PM EST reply actions  

Makes sense

he will be restricted free agent and may fit well

also only 23 years old

by babyeater26 on Dec 3, 2009 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

for what it's worth

blogabull commenters don’t sound too happy about the prospect of losing tyrus

http://www.blogabull.com/2009/12/3/1184944/tyrus-to-be-traded

by Seth on Dec 4, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't be either...

I can’t believe this either.

Thomas is not that bad…but Al Harrington is POS.

The article evens says Walsh has been “reluctant” to give him up.

Seriously? I know the expiring and all, but if there’s offers of Tyrus Thomas caliber players…the hell is he doing?

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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 4, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

gotta figure

d’antoni would wanna play tyrus at the 5

by Seth on Dec 4, 2009 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

Wrong wrong wrong

The Knicks have to keep their eye on the prize, 2010. Tyrus would probably fit the system well, but shipping out Harrington doesn’t help them in this coming off season. Tryus will have a cap hold, and Harrington was going to expire. They should hold onto their trading chips and see who they can unload him and a bad contract (Jared Jefferies or Curry) on some unsuspecting team. Especially because the Bulls are going to be looking at players the Knicks will be interested in, like Joe Johnson and D-Wade, with the cap space we would be helping them aquire.

by IceBlade on Dec 4, 2009 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

wouldn't they still have enough room to sign one of those guys?

I mean, Tyrus is more of a David Lee type. May not have Lee’s rebounding instincts, but Tyrus has 10x the defensive ability (tho…10 times 0 is still zero….) of Lee.

He could essentially replace Lee and allow the Knicks to trade Lee for something like a draft pick, maybe they go balls deep in some unsuspecting team with a conditional first rounder.

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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 4, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

multiply myself ten times standing next to zero

and snap my fingers like the fonz

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

that makes alot of sense

I like Lee and all, but should we trade for Thomas, he’d have no excuses not to work harder on the defensive end with Tyrus there to swat around shots and help him cleanup any defensive “mistakes”. If that doesn’t happen yea, I’d say he could become expendable.

I wouldn’t throw Lee to the wolves just yet though because even though he isn’t flashy, and despite his soft defense rep he is still a young, capable player, who does work hard and has gotten better each year…except when Stephen Curry tossed his shot, but still.

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by Lord Smackington on Dec 4, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

restricted free agent this summer

the knicks dont have to resign him after this year if they dont want to

by Ray Smuckles on Dec 4, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

i'd be for it

It can’t hurt anymore than having Harrington on the team— allows Ty to showcase some skills, maybe they resign him to a friendlier deal.

I’d be more for it if the Knicks could make the trade for McGrady too and get back some of the cap room (Curry, Wil and Hughes?). At least they may be building toward something and get a look at some possible impact players.

by scotty2129 on Dec 4, 2009 12:08 AM EST reply actions  

also...

I think they could always renounce his rights and make him a free agent if it doesn’t work out— give them the same amount of cap space that Harrington would give them— just cause he is an restricted free agent after this season doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll be there next season.

by scotty2129 on Dec 4, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

PULL THE TRIGGER

Ditching the black hole for a promising young player without affecting salary cap?

This would make the danilo the primary option in the offense.

DO IT.

by jayvb on Dec 4, 2009 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

Good Deal

I would like this move. We know we aren’t going to sign Harrington after the season. What’s the harm in getting Tyrus. Let’s try him out. He’s only 23. If he works out great, we give him the qualifying offer, 6.5M, we probably let D-Lee walk in that case and then we’d still have enough money to make a move for a max contract player. If he doesn’t then we let him walk like we would have with Harrington anyways.

by aramnath on Dec 4, 2009 12:44 AM EST reply actions  

Jerome James

Does he even hit the court anymore? Or is he just a wandering contract?

by nygmp42 on Dec 4, 2009 1:06 AM EST reply actions  

Nevermind

just checked his stats, he hasn’t played a minute yet this season.

by nygmp42 on Dec 4, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Jerome!

Tore his achilles last year – I think right after they traded him to the Bulls? He said he was determined to rehabilitate it and come back. That was really a great comedic performance.

by fuhry on Dec 4, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Blog-a-Bull

was a great find. The comments on Thomas seem mixed. Harrington is a black hole, but he is the best go to player outside of Nate that the Knicks have at this moment. I was not a Harrington fan last year, but I am extremely impressed with his aggression to the hole and his ability to open up opportunity to control the end game while being in the penalty. With that said, he does tend to disappear like Gallo late in games and his defense is, well, absent much of the time.

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by IGMKNICKS on Dec 4, 2009 5:09 AM EST reply actions  

Hopefully this means there will be more moves to come.

If Donnie does this deal and then stops, it will make no sense. It adds to our salary cap, and it takes away one of the few players we have that can create his own shot in the 4th quarter. Tyrus really has no offensive “skills” to speak of. His whole game is based on his high athleticism, but his skills are wack, and his jump shot is wacker. Also, everyone who has been around him has said he’s a head case (like a more irritating and less funny version of Nate). So this would make our locker room even more dysfunctional.

But… if Donnie does this with more moves in mind, then it’s good. Tyrus is a very tradeable player, and could be packaged with Jeffries or Curry. Also, he makes David Lee expendable, and Lee could be packaged with Jeffries or Curry.

I’m glad about his shot-blocking, but other than that, I really don’t like immature knuckleheads who can’t shoot on my team.

by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 4, 2009 8:54 AM EST reply actions  

You know what?

At first I was like, “Tyrus can’t shoot, so he doesn’t fit in this system at all.” But now I realize that he could perfectly fill Shawn Marion’s role from D’Antoni’s system in Phoenix. Marion couldn’t shoot, but he was a lockdown defender, and he offensively murdered people in transition. This could work. Tyrus is still an annoying knucklehead though.

by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 4, 2009 9:10 AM EST reply actions  

dude that was a lil schitzo

but ya know wat? that’s one of the symptoms of being a Knick fan. other symptoms may include slight rectal bleeding, explosive diarrhea, nausea, uncontrollable rage, and the murderings of random prostitutes. If you or a loved one suffer from this ailment please hide all sharp objects and consult the local medicine man to exercise your demons…and no I didn’t mean “exorcise” What!?! You don’t think demons don’t have to worry about there figures too!?!

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by Lord Smackington on Dec 4, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm all for this

We have Wilson Chandler starting at the 4 right now. That’s no good. Further, bringing him in doesn’t necessarily add to our cap, they don’t have to extend a qualifying offer to him if he doesn’t pan out here. I’d much rather have him as a piece for the future than David Lee. His defensive ceiling is way higher and he is significantly more athletic. If we get him we can move Wil back to one of the wing spots with gallo, have DLee and Thomas starting upfront, and either Duhon or Hughes starting at the point. I just feel like it would bring our lineup a lot more balance than it currently has. And either way, its a low/no risk situation with a possibly high pay off.

by ibnyc on Dec 4, 2009 9:42 AM EST reply actions  

dump harrington!

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 9:45 AM EST reply actions  

Hey

Is that Bill Cartwright and Marvin Webster in the background?

by fuhry on Dec 4, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

If the Knicks acquire Thomas they will add value to his bird rights

Thomas is seriously underutilized by Vinny Del Negro. In the D’Antoni system his numbers would immediately increase. He likely propels into a double double every night playing at the Knicks pace. If he pans out with D’Antoni the Knicks won’t want to lose him, but at best they will increase his value as a potential trading chip in any sign and trade this Summer.

My Bulls just don’t know what to do with Thomas. They would be stupid to trade Thomas and James for Harrington, but it would not surprise me if they do it. The Bulls “top men” have always liked Harrington. They had talks to acquire him when he was Hawk and a Pacer.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Dec 4, 2009 10:00 AM EST reply actions  

the Bulls do owe us tho...

and its not the Knicks fault they didn’t; know what to do with the Knicks draft picks…

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 4, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Hm...

I haven’t really seen Thomas play but from reading descriptions it sounds like he may be more of a Camby type (moreso than Jordan Hill)… He’s a couple of inches shorter than Camby, but apparently he has a good wingspan, so he might work at the 5 better than Lee. I kind of like the idea of clearing out Harrington because it gets Gallo more into the mix. Sounds like there is some frustration with his attitude – but it seems a low risk maneuver because they were probably not going to keep Harrington anyway, and they can always renounce Thomas as well.

For the Bulls, I can see it from their perspective – Harrington might help them more this year than Thomas will.

by fuhry on Dec 4, 2009 10:15 AM EST reply actions  

camby's not a bad comparison

although tyrus could jump over camby. he’s smaller but makes up for it by having wings.

by Seth on Dec 4, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

thomas

he’s super athletic, kinda lanky but definitely muscular, not a bad shooter, and plays defense. he’s not a 5. he came out of college early and is still developing. he can be a really good player but the bulls play him less than they should. i guess the question is do the knicks want him as a building block for the future.

by enron4515 on Dec 4, 2009 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

thanks to a reading comprehension miscue

all building blocks will now be referred to as “bulldog blocks”.

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

jerome james expires rght?

don’t make me smack somebody.

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 10:48 AM EST reply actions  

Yes

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Dec 4, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

we cool

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I like this

the only thing I would push for though….is to exclude James and include Henrich in exchange for a re-gift of Duhon. Yes I know he has 3 yr deal for 9 mil but only 3 of that would count against us in 2010, we’ll still be tops in the buyers market PLUS we’d be more competitive.

As for the Bulls, if they have Rose running loose on the floor shouldn’t Heinrich be up for grabs?
And if they really wanna shed contracts then Heiny has more dollars and yrs on his than James. PLUS aren’t we still a lil’ shaky at point???

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by Lord Smackington on Dec 4, 2009 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

Hinrich

Is definitely up for grabs, and I think he’s an upgrade over Duhon… and I think he can play either 1 or 2. Interesting idea but it impacts 2010 cap space. I think that Hinrich makes 9M per year, so it would impact cap space big time. If we traded Harrington, Jeffries, and N8 (The three pregame dancers) for Hinrich, James, and Thomas, it would only impact our cap next year for about 2-3 million, and we’d get Hinrich. Is Hinrich better than any other free agent point guard you’re likely to get this summer? Hmmm… Probably. I like this deal.

by fuhry on Dec 4, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

BTW

N8 couldn’t be included in a trade until 12/15… and he would have to approve it. Duhon/Jeffries/Harrington for Tyrus/James/Hinrich works, it’s a crappy deal on the face of it for them but the save about 3 million off the cap in 2010 and get space in 2011. This could allow them to possibly be a player for Wade in 2010… and it wouldn’t stop us from getting one Max deal, plus we’d have our point guard position slightly solidified. I like this deal, but it’s risky because we could lose Lee AND Thomas at the end of the year as we try to lure one of the big 3 and have to relinquish their rights.

by fuhry on Dec 4, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Also

As I reply to myself repeatedly, Hinrich is out with a sore thumb for another week or 2.

by fuhry on Dec 4, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

hinrich

plays solid d. id rather have him than duhon.

by enron4515 on Dec 4, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

ur rite

does kinda, sorta disrupt it but it’s like we said it’s 3 mil less in the pot at most. You were dead on about his salary and the actual spelling of his name after my repeated slaughter of it.

But Donnie was thinking of “adjusting” the plan for Ramon Sessions. And he also offered Grant Hill the option of a TWO year deal for the mid level so…

just sayin Hinrich is just as good if not better option for this team than those guys.

If I’m the Bulls I’d do this just to make roster room and pocket money for D-Wade just in case he has a homecoming in mind 2010.

What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
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HaHaHaHa!

by Lord Smackington on Dec 4, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Chicago isnt taking duhon back

Of course Hinrich is better. Lets not get too greedy here guys. I think dishing Harrington and getting back Tyrus Thomas works well for us. No need to overwhelm the Bulls and fuck the whole thing up.

by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 4, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

but IF they are really trying to free up cap space then a casual inquiry by the knicks couldn’t hurt to gauge interest. But I love the original proposal…and as if it needed 2b sed, I strongly dislike douche-on (just made that one up, test driving it)

What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 4, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

We could also do it

with Darko instead of Duhon. If not, I’d bet they’d do it for N8 on 12/15.

by fuhry on Dec 4, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Im surprised no one has mentioned this yet:

Getting Thomas and losing Harrington would open up shots for Gallinari.
Thomas is still coming into his own, but yeah, he is amazingly athletic and hasn’t really gotten a consistent shot yet. But he started top break out in the playoffs last year and he might be ready. He doesn’t command nearly as many touches as Harrington and he helps our interior defense. We would get another big guy to help David Lee and huis mismatches at C. Thomas isn’t a legit center, but between the both of them, it would help us more than Harrington does now. We have enough firepower to replace Harrington’s scoring. I think a fresh start for Thomas might be great for him. He DOES have an attitude, but its more from Skiles killing him when he was coach.

I like this because we gain defense and a guy who can really run on transition for a guy who eats too many shots and just doesn’t fit for a team looking to develop younger players.

by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 4, 2009 11:22 AM EST reply actions  

i've mentioned it on twitter!!111

if that counts. you’re right. on the surface, dumping your leading scorer looks bad, but i think it might actually open up the floor a lot.

by Seth on Dec 4, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Last year we traded away our leading scorer twice.

by mindfeck on Dec 4, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

they shoulda traded crawford

for tyrus thomas. that way we could be looking for ways to dump him right now. expediate the process.

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

expedite?

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of expectorate

I wouldn’t mind not having to look at Harrington’s gross mouth guard all the time.

by fuhry on Dec 4, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought I was the only one who thought that...

tho, the idea of bald-headed cornrows may just be the future…

Shane Battier’s got it too.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 4, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

**evacutate.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 4, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

**evacuate?

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 4, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

ejacun8

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by stingy d on Dec 5, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

so who do we have to write/phone/kidnap/extort with sex tapes to make this happen right now?

I don’t even really care about the extra details or added players,it’d be nice but Al for Tyrus works for me

What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 4, 2009 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

well...

as stated somehwere north of this back and forth here – donnie walsh and al harrington used to have sex together. alone together.

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

used to?

Donnie can’t get on the phone to Chicago cuz Al’s ‘in his ear’.

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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 4, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

donnie put em on glass

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

harrington strokes it

donnie fingers harrington in the head crevice.

peace to chicago…. harrington can’t stand up with no wind. when the wind blows, my dude is gonna be on the floor when he passes half court.

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

NOPE!

we getting gay up in that rectum and double pumping in the clutch!

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Kool Keith?

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 4, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

yea he said something similar to that

don’t remember where though… cenobites maybe

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

"you're late"

cenobites

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, what’s up with all you stupid motherfuckers out there
giving me that jive vibe and that jam jam, huh
Don’t come back with grass between your ass
Cause I’m out here to last and move on forward past
That’s right, I gets deep up in that rectum and I checks them

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

pause

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

soundin nervous

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Guys

For all we know, this rumor may have been floated so the GM’s could check out the reaction on the blogs…

So let’s remember that Harrington is pretty good at driving to the basket, he’s a good teammate with a good attitude, and he can and will launch 3’s, which, if he’s hitting them that day, he can help you win a game.

by fuhry on Dec 4, 2009 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

ha

his launching helps us win 3 games a month. fuuuuuucck thaaaaaaaat

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

But still, lets not create a fan revolt amongst Bulls fans reading this blog.

waves

Hi guys, too bad you don’t have Jordan anymore. Harrington is awesome. Seriously, he’s a pretty good guy.

by fuhry on Dec 4, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

my bust

yo man.. harrington drops 40 like its EASY!

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I once saw him drop 40 in a half

and then at half time, he spotted an autistic kitten choking on some garbage right before he performed CPR, saved its life, nursed it back to health and then reunited it with it’s family who he took in because they were just a pack of downtrodden but lovable alley cats who were never given a chance or real home of any kind.

What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
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by Lord Smackington on Dec 4, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I've read

Harrington lives in the gym. Literally.

by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 4, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sick of us trading away our best players.

With D’Antoni not playing Nate, we need SOME kind of go-to guy. Seriously, if it’s not harrington, who do we give the ball to when we need points? Gallo? Chandler? DWTDD?

Say what you want about Harrington, but he plays hard and he scores points, I want to keep him.

by Kaanon on Dec 4, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

i wanna say that harrington inspires purity of mind

and happy homes. good community leader.

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I think every bad post on Harrington should be deleted

and replaced with this one.

Kaanan…I think your message should be sent to whoever the hell the Bulls GM is. Is it still Jon Paxon or is it Isiah again?

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 4, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, no and yes

What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!

by Lord Smackington on Dec 4, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

yup.

what 6"9 250lbs PF in the entire NBA can stroke from long range? Ball handle as good as Lebron and man up on D with the best of em?

…sorry man…that’s just some bullshit. I can’t talk up this clown.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 4, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

body up

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

eeehhhh....

I’ll give Harrington his good attitude, but his eyes are much bigger than his game. He can score, yes, but he is generally a black hole player. Once the ball hits his hands, it’s never seen again. I think he is probably a decent teammate, but he doesn’t seem to handle a lesser role offensively well enough. Once he gets in, he wants to take over. That isnt necessarily the mark of a leader either. It can hurt as much as it helps…

by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 4, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

to be honest

I think he’s handling his demotion and new role well. His attitude is okay, but he does have a lil n8 in him as well also…ie: chest daggers? really Al? But he is useful. He is a legitimate inside outside threat who despite lack of defensive talent, does make a solid effort at it. The biggest hole in his game is that he THINKS he is a prime time player and he’s not. And the sole reason for that is lack of passing ability. This is not a problem when stagnant, but once he puts the ball on the floor he rarely passes because he constantly dribbles with his head down not reading the floor.

CCF u know what ur talkling about, as good as he can be he hurts just as bad. It’s just not easy to see when he drops 40 in a game or avgs 20 for the season.

What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!

by Lord Smackington on Dec 4, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish I said "he THINKS hes a prime time player and he's not"

thats sums it up the way I meant. I am but a humble jester to you, Lord.

by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 4, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Please take him!!

As a diehard Bulls fan….PLEASE TAKE TYRUS THOMAS!

Yes he gets blocks, but most of them are AFTER his man has blown by him while on defense. His blocks are recovery blocks. Against the majority of 3s in the league, he is an average defender at best (defense is more than just blocked shots)

Plus he thinks he’s better than he really is.

And lastly, he is a headcase in the worst way. Almost infantile….

by Quentin J on Dec 4, 2009 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

sounds like harrington

but good at getting blocks instead of good at shooting 30%

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Pleast take him!!!

 Please take him!!

As a diehard knicks fan….PLEASE TAKE AL HARRINGTON!

Yes he gets points, but most of them are AFTER he lowers his head and drives recklessly into the lane ignoring the rest of his teammates. His points are not always there. Against the majority of 3s in the league, he is an average defender at best.

Plus he thinks he’s better than he really is.

although he seems like a good guy.

by gbaked on Dec 4, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

comments should be close now.

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

*closed.

now.

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

was my comment that bad

that it should stop all other comments?

i mean… i know its not my best work… i am having a very busy day.

I will try harder (pause) next time.

by gbaked on Dec 4, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

no no no

it was a perfect punctuation to all these comments. lets have a beer!

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 5:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

this is a weird scenario...

tell me why all across this board we are saying. YES.. get rid of our go to clutch performer who chucks up too many shots a game for thomas, the young prospect who plays better d than anyone of our f’s.

but you go to the bulls blog and everyone is saying. YES, get thomas out of here, that guy lost his job BEFORE he was injured, by a rookie.. he has no shot, he sucks and is taking up roster space.

whats a knicks fan supposed to do?? — it could be a lose lose situation..and i think that is why walsh hasnt pulled the trigger yet.. if we could include another contract player(though chicago is trying to keep cap space) it woulud then become a lworst case scenario lose/lose situation with at least us gaining some cap room for 2010. ? maybe shyt iono.. any news is good news when it comes to trade and ny knicks right now lmao

by semsemma on Dec 4, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

I see your point

but consider this. Sometimes a change of scenery can really help a player reinvent himself. Each team has its own system in place and sometimes guys just don’t fit. Shaq didn’t work out in Phoenix. Look at Chauncey Billups’ career in Minnesota before he went to Detroit. Tracy McGrady in Toronto before Orlando? Thomas may just need a different scene to bring his game out. D’Antoni has doen that before. He helped turn Nash into an MVP. Shawn Marion was pretty good there and since hasn’t been the same (though he is doing ok in Dallas).

Harrington is gonna shoot a lot wherever he goes. He’s fun to have at first, but he wears out his welcome soon as the fans watch him gun and dribble off his foot.

by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 4, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

yea this is weird...

i read all that too.

I just don’t see how Al Harrington on the team is better than Al Harrington off the team.

Thomas is young and can jump..is not a ball hog either.

..maybe just his ’headcase’ness" is because of Vinny Not a Del Negro and before that Scott Skiles?

Maybe playing under a coach like Pringles, a more free-wheeling type, will help him?

I could imagine how Al Harrington will combust once he has to ’conform" tho….

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 4, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

You know...

I wouldn’t listen to Vinny Del Negro either. hahahahahahahahahaha

by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 4, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Clutch????

really????

What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!

by Lord Smackington on Dec 4, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Ithink Harrington is a decent player that THINKS he's clutch

and then spends so much time celebrating, hangin off the rim, chest daggers that he somehow gets others to believe these are “clutch” performances when these plays are often meaningless and rarely help us win as indicated by our record.

What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!

by Lord Smackington on Dec 4, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

clutch my nuts

knicks fans!

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 5:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

oh i begged! i begged!

easy on my balls they fragile as eggs

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by stingy d on Dec 4, 2009 6:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I say yes.

When your best help defender of the past 5 years is named Jared Jeffries, you pull the trigger on this trade.

"I'll probably go get lifted right now with Greg. Hey, and come back tomorrow and try to get another win."

-Renaldo

by solanumbrella on Dec 4, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

wow

that’s actually a true statement.

by enron4515 on Dec 4, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a good deal

D’Antoni would still start Lee at center and TT might put a little more defense and shit on the front line. If you’re the Knicks and want to trade why not just do it now? I would take a chicago bulls t-shirt and gift card at build a bear workshop for al harrington.

by runningdonut on Dec 4, 2009 6:19 PM EST reply actions  

I don't believe the Knicks are holding up this deal.

Anyways, Tyrus is really good. He has negatives, but what he does well he does well, he has gobs of potential, and he’d pretty much immediately become the best defender on the team. The Knicks’ offense doesn’t have many good parts, so losing Harrington might be bad for the short term, but it makes no difference for 2010 and it might even be a positive [since you can sign TT next year if he blows up in NY, which … well, the chance is a lot higher than Harrington blowing up or ‘not sucking’].

I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.

by Prevenge on Dec 4, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions  

Is TT friends with LBJ?

by Turbofire on Dec 4, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions  

i'd rather not trade

with a team that dumped Eddy Curry on the Knicks for two first round draft picks (that became LaMarcus Aldridge and Joakim Noah…think about that for a second), and got some expiring deals in the Jamal Crawford sign-and-trade. Bulls have fleeced the Knicks enough already.

plus Tyrus Thomas sucks. Al Harrington isn’t much better, but Thomas is a minimal upgrade at best. everyone says “he’s 23!” who gives a shit? Darko is 24. that doesn’t mean he’s worth anything.

Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!

by Anthony Masons Haircut on Dec 4, 2009 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

imagine darko motivated though

or for that matter, imagine a motivated tyrus thomas! when he showed up to play for the bulls, he had no problem catching wreck.

HAVING SAID THAT

i really do hate how the bulls have been our arch-nemesis on the court, and in the gm office for the past 20 years. it was no good when we had a detroit piston running our front office, and i don’t see how having an indiana pacer running the front office is going to ease our pain.

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by stingy d on Dec 5, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you all on crack!!

Why we would trade our leading scorer for Thomas is lost to me. We NEED a 6’11" or bigger big man in the middle, not a more defensive minded 6’9" guy who hasn’t consistantly done anything since he was drafted. Stop putting blame for the sorry Knicks on Harrington. He doesn’t take the best shots, but he has more heart and toughness than anyone on the Knicks and he produces more consistantly than the rest. If Walsh makes a trade, get us what we need, not someone else’s trouble or more of the same. Remember Jefferys is already a Knick, we don’t need another one!!!

by gaga71 on Dec 5, 2009 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

hermaphrodites

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by stingy d on Dec 5, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Harrington does play very hard

But his effort is consistent, not his talent. He can drop 30 one night and have 6 (on 2 of 12 shooting) the next. Most importantly, his 1-on-1 style is not what this team is going to be about in the very near future, and he suffocates offensive ball movement.

Tyrus Thomas doesn’t seem like a perfect fit, but he and eventually hill roaming the paint gives us a real presence. His help defense (TT’s greatest strength) would be ideal to protect lee if he is beat off the dribble. In the knicks losses this season, they are getting killed in the paint because opponents know that they can usually go to the rim without being challenged. Thomas also shares the ball and he is young enough to be molded to fit here. His athleticism and age make his potential incredibly high, and his offense is not as bad as stat monkeys think (his low numbers are due to his low minutes played, and how he’s jerked in and out of the lineup in Chicago. Check out clips from the boston chicago series last year, and watch how tyrus played when he was getting consistent time).

In other words, Thomas fits in the direction the knicks are heading, and harrington doesn’t. He fills a defensive need that harrington doesn’t (they don’t need AL’s offense). And he shares the ball like harrington doesn’t. Thomas will have to work hard this year, or the knicks simply will not match any offers for him this summer and he’ll be gone. This is a great opportunity to pick up a kid who can thrive in D’antoni’s system, plus may lead the league in blocks in a few years.

It’s not even a win-lose, it’s a win-neutral. NY should do it if it’s on the table when Tyrus comes back from injury.

by Ray Smuckles on Dec 5, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I Agree!

Yes. Any trade of Harrington should include a first rounder. Thomas has potential and is a good defender. But Harrington (Contrary to popular beliefs) is worth more, and we already know what Jerome James is worth!

by gaga71 on Dec 6, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

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