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BREAKING: Knicks Acquire Larry Hughes (Update: And Chris Wilcox?)

There may be more to this, but it seems the Knicks have acquired Larry Hughes from the Bulls in exchange for Jerome James, Tim Thomas, and Anthony Roberson. It's possible that another leg of this deal may be sending Malik Rose to OKC in exchange for Chris Wilcox. Hughes has never been a favorite, but the trade would cut some deadweight from the Knick roster- cleaning up roster space without increasing payroll. That deal for Wilcox would be much sweeter. He's a talented and more defensive big man with an expiring deal that could bolster the front line. More on this as it comes.

Thanks to solanumbrella for first posting this in the Fanposts.

UPDATE: The Wilcox deal is sounding official. Very nice.

I've gotta go to class for the next 80 minutes, so keep things up to date in the comments. I guess this has now become the deadline thread?

Update: The trade deadline has passed, and this appears to be the final tally:

OUT: Rose, Thomas, Roberson, James

IN: Wilcox, Hughes, and some roster space

I like it.

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Paxson never disappoints

Why would the Bulls do that? They don’t get any salary cap help this summer and you can take it to the bank that JJ, TT and AR are going to get less than ten total minutes over the course of this season and next.

I guess they’d rather write three worthless checks rather than one.

"Ariza on Mobley, trying to put some chillin on his thrillin"

by Serious Garbage Time on Feb 19, 2009 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed!

That trade is simply ridiculous for the Bulls. I know that Hughes wasn’t doing much there, but how on earth does it help them?? Do they see something in Roberson? I just don’t get it. Maybe they think they can coax something out of Tim Thomas?

Generally speaking, I don’t think that its a good idea to trade several contracts for one larger one (b/c the larger one will likely be tougher to move in the future) – but in this case, I am all for it.

PS: with add’l roster spots, this likely means that Ewing Jr will be back in town, no?

by Cody K on Feb 19, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

the last time

we traded tim thomas to the bulls it got very ugly in chicago. i don’t see how it will be any different this go around.

by stingy d on Feb 19, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes! Paxson is an idiot

I just have no clue why the Bulls did this!

D’Antoni has to be thanking his lucky stars he didn’t go to Chicago to team up with Paxson….

by Cody K on Feb 19, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

N8 Rumor

I actually don’t like this one as much…with the way N8’s playing right now, can’t you send him out and include Curry’s contract? Or am I deluding myself?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=TradeTalkRoundup-090218

POSTED: Feb. 19 — 2:25 p.m. ET

Robinson
Could the Knicks make three deals today? Sources say the Kings have offered Kenny Thomas for Nate Robinson and Jared Jeffries. If the Knicks could move Jeffries, it would clear another $6.8 million in the summer of 2010.

The Knicks would have to give up the talented Robinson and eat Thomas’ $8.7 million salary next year … but it’s probably worth it to the Knicks. Especially now that they’ve shored up their offense with the deals for Larry Hughes and Chris Wilcox.

by Cody K on Feb 19, 2009 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

good, I didn't like this one anyway!

UPDATE (2:36 p.m. ET): Just got word that the Knicks turned down the Kings again. Sounds like they’re not as motivated to move Jared Jeffries as so many of us thought.

by Cody K on Feb 19, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Newsday

Alan Hahn is reporting that this trade is happening. I hope (and trust) that he’s wrong.

"Ariza on Mobley, trying to put some chillin on his thrillin"

by Serious Garbage Time on Feb 19, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

he is?

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by Seth on Feb 19, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

but others deny it

makes me nervous

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by Seth on Feb 19, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

tdee says no

fingers crossed

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by Seth on Feb 19, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

now hahn says no

good news

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by Seth on Feb 19, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

Especially since Nate is on Letterman tonight.

"Ariza on Mobley, trying to put some chillin on his thrillin"

by Serious Garbage Time on Feb 19, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

these trades are awesome.

we basically get two for one, really; everyone besides TT was out of the rotation. our front line is bigger and we have a real 2 guard now.

chicago’s rhetoric is really simple; Hughes has an albatross contract and was the odd man out in their backcourt rotation. at least TT has 3-point range, which could work in a drive-and-kick type system. also, the Bulls might have reason to believe that JJ could crack their rotation at the 5. it’s actually a decent fit for both teams.

as for OKC, keeping Wilcox would be awkward after the failed Chandler deal. so they ship him out for M. Rose (prob a Presti fave from the Spurs days), and at least get some veteran leadership. who knows, maybe they can even sign him on the cheap next season if he likes it there.

edit: just saw the Nate deal, and even though I love Nate i think we gotta pull the trigger. if we move him, we get to keep D-Lee, and then we might get two superstars in 2010.

by latrell chokewell on Feb 19, 2009 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

nice insight

but i gotta say there is still another trade deadline. and there are most certainly going to be some desperate teams. i still believe we will be able to move eddy curry and jared jeffries without slashing nate and/or david. there is going to be a market for curry if he can get in reasonable shape. it could happen this off season too.

i think everyone marginalizes nate’s capabilities.

by stingy d on Feb 19, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Guys, this was a pretty sweet day for us.

Wilcox was the big catch (sorry Larry Hughes fans!). He plays like a poor homeless man’s Amare Stoudemire in the pick and roll (Gimme; I’ll dunk the bitch). He and D-Lee should be pretty fun to watch. This probably won’t necessarily do wonders for our defense, but we should see a spike in the “Points in the paint” category, opening up the 3-ball a little more. While we just got rid of TT, a definite 3-point threat, we must keep in mind:

In Cock we trust.

Fuck Larry Hughes, I don’t care what anybody says. I’ve probably watched him play in over 75 games. He’s a weird asshole.

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by solanumbrella on Feb 19, 2009 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

YES

I agree on all counts! But some little part of me is going to really miss Jerome James. I was still waiting for him to become totally amazing. Can somebody tivo Nate on Lettermen tonight?

http://heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com/

by BreadCity on Feb 19, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Kevin Pelton agrees

The solid NBA stats man Kevin Pelton agrees in full, or at least he says Coach D’Ant agrees:

The other deal worth talking about in basketball terms is Chris Wilcox going to New York. Mike D’Antoni has made no secret of his admiration for Wilcox. I remember him talking extensively on the subject late in the 2005-06 season, when Wilcox was enjoying a great run for the Sonics after a mid-season deal from the L.A. Clippers. D’Antoni told a group of us that the Suns had tried to acquire Wilcox, but couldn’t work things out with the Clippers.
"He’s a heck of a player," D’Antoni said. "He runs and he fits our style."
The obvious comparison in terms of strengths and weaknesses is to D’Antoni’s old big man, Amar’e Stoudemire. While Wilcox isn’t quite at that level, it’s easy to see him being very effective for the Knicks if they can find playing time for him up front along with Al Harrington and David Lee.

"Ariza on Mobley, trying to put some chillin on his thrillin"

by Serious Garbage Time on Feb 19, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

i've heard him called Amar'e-light before

hell if he’s Keystone Light, i’l take it. Rose was worthless anyway.

Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!

by Anthony Masons Haircut on Feb 19, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm happy about it

Tim Thomas for Larry Hughes is kind of a wash – one waste of talent for another, though at least Hughes can play the 2.

Getting rid of four players to get 2 is a bonus, because now we can bring in some D-League guys.

Getting Wilcox could be very good. He’s only 27, and only has 1 year for $6.75 mil on the contract. If he works, awesome. If not, no big worries.

2010 is still in place. Nate, Lee, and Chandler are still Knicks. Can’t complain too much.

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by DiscipleofClyde Dan on Feb 19, 2009 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

love everything about today....

now im just confused with the mins situation. we really only moved 1 guy with any value for 2 guys id imagine r gonna play.

Pg: Duhon Nate
Sg: Chandler (i kno he’s not but hes getting mins there) Q Hughes
Sf:Harrington Cock
Pf: Lee
C:jeffires Wilcox

a lot of people going for mins there. I think wilcox has a chance to crack the rotation right away and eventually take the starting center job from jeffries. I’m kinda torn on hughes. ive watched him play great and really shut people down. ive also seen him with a crawford impression minus the skills which isnt pretty.

I’m hoping for a Duhon Wil Harrington Dlee Wilcox lineup in the next coming weeks with nate cock jeffries and hughes off the bench.

2 b honest ive never been much of a Q fan and i really wouldnt mind if he was out of the rotation. For every good game he has theirs 3 bad ones and even tho his D isnt completely done i wouldnt mind a fresh face in hughes taking those mins away. D’antoni’s not gonna play 10 guys so i think 1 of them are gonna b the odd ones out

sidenote: larry hughes has a teardrop tatoo like those hood guys who kill people. i know its for his brother but still its cool. Q rich is kinda chunky. so he already wins the appearance portion of the contest.

Hopefully gallo and wilson can really shine now. those 2 r my guys and i really cant stand harrington. he plays just like jamal did but for some reason this didnt bother me as much. crawford at least made it appear like he wanted to run an offense and would even have those random 7 assist games pop up every once and a while. i can tell u when harringtons about to shoot it within .003 seconds after he gets the ball. we can deal with it for now bcuz we’re not exactly loaded offensively so the scoring load has 2 come from somewhere but still if we can slowly but surely improve the young guns this will b a non issue.

the season should b fun from here on out. we have the type of team 2 make a playoff run and with the 4-7 seeds all neck and neck even a 1st round win isnt completely unheard of. i mean it is but im happy over trades and thinking way 2 highly of them right now.

worst comes 2 worst we crumble as always and the stephen curry hasheem thabeet talks start. hopefully just a bit later than they did last year.

by antnyk on Feb 19, 2009 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

Larry Hughes

You all did love him once. - The New York Knicks.

by THEWILLY on Feb 19, 2009 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

it's a tattoo right?

tell me it’s a tattoo. it’s gotta be a tattoo.

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by Seth on Feb 19, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

larry hughes

most tatted up knick ever?

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by Prezs2ReprsntMe on Feb 19, 2009 6:57 PM EST reply actions  

chandler and curry

both up there. steph too.

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by Seth on Feb 19, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

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