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Game Thread: Knicks vs. Raptors- 2/20/08

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Good evening urrybody. Tonight marks the first matchup between the Knicks and Raptors this season. In preparation, I traded a few answers and questions with Romy of HoopHeadsNorth.com. You can check out my answers to his questions over there.

P&T: Do you expect the Raptors to let Shawn Marion's contract expire at the end of this year, or might Colangelo see him as a long-term fit? What would you do if it were up to you?
 
HHN: I think it's pretty much a risk free move as you have the options.  You see how Marion plays for the rest of the season, and if you like what you see with him playing with Bosh-Calderon-Bargnani, you sign him for longer.  Trading for Marion gave the Raptors so many options and will still have enough money to sign another mid-level player.  I like really like Marion as a player and think he can do much more than Jermaine O'Neal would have done.  If it was me, I personally would keep Marion in the long-term and then sign a good F-C player to come off of the bench.

P&T: This Jay Triano fellow seems like a friendly enough coach. Do you think he's strictly interim, or is Triano full-time material?


HHN: Personally, I like Triano and had high hopes for him as he's a Canadian product and would like to see him do well.  Unfortunately, just the way the Raptors' season has gone this year, Triano had stepped into a pile of doo-doo and was forced to try and turn it around.  The Raps poor play will unjustly reflect on him when I believe other factors have contributed to the Raps horrid season.  If he had walked in fresh into a new season, I think things would be different.  I personally think Triano will be here until season's end and then Colangelo will shop around for a new coach.
 
I must say though, he is pretty friendly and if you ever watch a post-game interview, even if the raptors play horrible, he never sells out the players.  It's nice but can be hard to watch sometimes especially when it's the players who just didn't show any effort.
 

P&T: The Raptors have perhaps the coolest guy in the NBA in Nathan Jawai, an indigenous Australian who's built like Shaq and got his first NBA points the other night. Can we expect more minutes for this living legend?


HHN: I think so, I think he was supposed to go to the D-League a while back but when J.O. got injured, they kept him on the roster.  I want him to do well but his skills are so raw, it would be good for him to go to the D-League and actually play.  He'll get garbage time minutes with the Raps but I think that'll be about it.  
 
I like him though.  No matter what, he's always smiling on the bench, even when the Raps are down 30+ and playing like crap, he's on the bench having a good time.

P&T: If alien life forms observed mankind, but took only the Toronto Raptors bench as their sample, they'd get a pretty ridiculous idea of what humans look like. I guess you could say that about any professional sports team, but I feel like Kris Humphries, Roko Ukic, Joey Graham, and Jake Voskuhl are enough to give aliens an especially warped idea of our species. I guess that's not really a question.


Haha, yeah.  The bench is ugly.  Any way you look at it, they're ugly but....Roko Ukic is growing on the fans.  Three reasons:  1.  He looks like he's 12, 2. His name is Roko  and  3.  The kid has no fear, if he has the ball in the closing minutes down 2, he has no problem in trying to score under pressure.

Get psyched, y'all. Tommy Dee says neither Chris Wilcox nor Larry Hughes will suit up tonight, which is a shame. Hopefully they'll do fine, though, because every win counts these days. Especially at home. Stop on by for comments. Let's hope the temporarily depleted Knicks can get shit done.

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chris wilcox…black thought?

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 7:14 PM EST reply actions  

Toronto Raptors – New York Knicks

LIVE

http://www.iddaliyim.tr.gg

by iddaliyim on Feb 20, 2009 7:26 PM EST reply actions  

For all obscure Knick fans

The man coaching Stoudamire in the above pic?

Darrell Walker!

by DocPym on Feb 20, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

hell yeah!

part of the reason i posted it.

i loved damon stoudamire.

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Back when he was beasting it in Toronto and later Portland

Back when Scottie Pippen started, and their sixth man was Detlef Schrempf!

by DocPym on Feb 20, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't know

i actually know somebody with an old school #20 stoudamire jersey. so fresh.

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

i have a stoudamire

raptors home white… size 44 i believe.

by stingy d on Feb 20, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

they're real cheap, by the way

this girl i know just copped a stoudemire jersey for under 20 bucks. she doesn’t know who he is, but she likes the jersey, so that’s cool.

by Barnesgasm on Feb 20, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

look up a knicks jersey on ebay

oakley is like 80 mason is around there too. i’m lucky enough to have a mason jersey.

by stingy d on Feb 20, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

interesting

hughes is wearing 0

wilcox is wearing 9

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

weird

neither has worn either their entire career. did we retire #32 for othella harrington?

by Barnesgasm on Feb 20, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

must've

last knick to wear 0?

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

we did this when we got fred jones i think

or maybe it was taurean green, and i think we decided it was walter mccarty.

by Barnesgasm on Feb 20, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

yup

wasn’t 0 on the knicks

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

and yeah

i just name-dropped taurean green for no apparant reason. i think i’ve gone insane.

by Barnesgasm on Feb 20, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

you should probably take a break from p&t

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Kenny Albert!

I actually really like Kenny on commentary.

by DocPym on Feb 20, 2009 7:32 PM EST reply actions  

Marion has been unimpressive in Toronto so far

so expect the breakout game today of all days.

by DocPym on Feb 20, 2009 7:34 PM EST reply actions  

wilcox is in uniform

but just for shits and giggles, it sounds.

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

shutout y'all

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

9-0

look at what happens when you get rid of malik rose

by Barnesgasm on Feb 20, 2009 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

who's our goat now?

jeffries? i need somebody to direct my spite towards.

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

it's gotta be

though i personally hate Curry because of his contract/laziness. problem is that the poor guy is going through a lot so i feel like a dick being mad at him.

Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!

by Anthony Masons Haircut on Feb 20, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

he was already our goat.

co-goat. which is ironic, because when he hits a jumper, the victim is frequently a hapless mountain goat.

by Barnesgasm on Feb 20, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

he's making him hear it tonight

nh

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

andrea bargnani has been in the league three years

nobody’s had the balls to tell clyde frazier his name isn’t “bargnarni” yet, though.

by Barnesgasm on Feb 20, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions  

renaldo borkman

too

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

he really does say that, too. Both of those names.

by DocPym on Feb 20, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

kapono

fuck. steve novak redux.

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

jewish grandmas favorite player in the league.

she thinks he’s everybody else’s favorite player too, makes it for passover seders and whatnot, but nobody under the age of 65 has ever touched that shit.

by Barnesgasm on Feb 20, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

ive never actually had borscht

my grandmothers are both american-born and awful cooks. thoughts, anybody?

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

nate ROBINSON.

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

PALMING!

the chorus of a much less popular jim jones song.

by Barnesgasm on Feb 20, 2009 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

good god

nate

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

what a quarter

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

christ.

that was a ridiculous quarter of basketball.

by Barnesgasm on Feb 20, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions  

Nate

Whoaa way to end the quarter. pretty pleased I just traded for Nate in my fantasy team as well.

by Stecka on Feb 20, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions  

david lee

going for 64, 24 and 8

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

achievable.

You all did love him once. - The New York Knicks.

by THEWILLY on Feb 20, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I am watching Gamecast.

Who has been covering Bosh?

You all did love him once. - The New York Knicks.

by THEWILLY on Feb 20, 2009 8:12 PM EST reply actions  

lee a little

jeffries now. both doing a solid job.

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

30pt lead would be hot.

You all did love him once. - The New York Knicks.

by THEWILLY on Feb 20, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

i feel weird saying this, as a knicks fan in recent years

but the raptors don’t look able to hang with this team in any facet of the game right now.

by Barnesgasm on Feb 20, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah

Chris Bosh really wants out really badly, too. But he doesn’t want the fans to call him another Vince Carter so he’s trying to keep quiet about it.

by DocPym on Feb 20, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

never thought about this until tonight

since i never think of david lee’s origins, but tonight clyde won’t shut up about how he’s from st. louis, which brings to mind the question: is david lee long-lost brothers with murphy lee, the second most popular member of the st. lunatics?

by Barnesgasm on Feb 20, 2009 8:18 PM EST reply actions  

come to think of it

why don’t we call him david “country grammar” lee?

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

is he sponsored by nike?

does he wear “errr force ones”?

by Barnesgasm on Feb 20, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Scott Layden was a genius

and by genius, I mean horrible, horrible, HORRIBLE as a GM.

by DocPym on Feb 20, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

i was just trying to explain the nene deal

to a friend who hasn’t been following basketball for long, and he’s in disbelief.

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

NATE ROBINSON.

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

what's with italians

and a lack of knowledge of when your sideburns are gross

by Barnesgasm on Feb 20, 2009 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

this is silly

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

wilcox maybe?

i don’t see why not. i figure he wouldn’t be in uniform if he hadn’t passed a physical.

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

is Toronto as bad as Washington at this point?

i’m starting to think so…

Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!

by Anthony Masons Haircut on Feb 20, 2009 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

well

like washington, they have all the talent. they’re just completely flat. it’s ridiculous.

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

paul simon

is gradually becoming woody allen

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

god you're right

he’s become neurotic and strange. Are they sure they didn’t get him confused with Woody?

by DocPym on Feb 20, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

what's your guys feelingsn the deadline?

overall i’d give it a B. i would’ve liked to either package Nate or Lee with Curry, but i’m not sure if any team was willing to take on his contract. i’m not sure why people seem upset that the Nate/Jeffries to Kings deal didn’t go through. i’m sure someone else will take JJ off Donnie’s hands next year at some point.

if they couldn’t do better than Kenny Thomas (and couldn’t squeeze a pick out of it), i’m glad they didn’t trade Nate. what sucks is that i think there’s a 0% chance that he’s a Knick next year.

Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!

by Anthony Masons Haircut on Feb 20, 2009 8:49 PM EST reply actions  

i love the deadline deals

and am going to have a really hard time parting with nate this summer

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

not pc enough for the main page

but kenny atkinson= simple jack

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

nathan jawai!!

everybodys favorite indigenous australian shaq clone

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 9:04 PM EST reply actions  

more like

You all did love him once. - The New York Knicks.

by THEWILLY on Feb 20, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

Why has Gallo only played for 8 minutes?

You all did love him once. - The New York Knicks.

by THEWILLY on Feb 20, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

chandler and q are balling

i guess. i imagine we’ll see more of him in the fourth if this lead holds up.

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions  

COCKKKK

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions  

wilson chandler

dunks, looks fairly disappointed

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions  

probably resting his ankle

given that it’s garbage time

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

there he is

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

whoa

that girl. not wearing clothes.

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

Just got home and saw the box score

Three words:
  1) Ho.
  1b) Lee.
   2) Shit.

Was this game as awesome as it appears?

by twincitiesknick on Feb 20, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

it's been a joke

since about 7:45. very relieving.

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

goaltending!

credit danilo gallinari with the basket, y’all

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by Seth on Feb 20, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

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