FD kills it re: New York City
Joey brings it with a preposterously good post about why they call it the Mecca. As a resident New Yorker who spent the past nine months or so in the midwest, busy telling everybody that their places of origins were generally festering piles of shit, and just got back the other day and knew shit was right with the world when I was literally the last dude possible to force his way onto an overcrowded 5 train to work the other morning... I agree with Joey's article immensely.
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I like the article
but I’ve always been annoyed by some New Yorkers’ sense of entitlement. I guess I’m not a “New Yorker” per se, as I only lived the earliest portion of my life there and have otherwise existed on its fringes. Still, I think the premature gossip and gloating is emblematic of the fans who invest the least in their Knicks and only perk up when things like the 2010 talk arise. If there was something refreshing about the last ten or so years, it’s that the losing weeded out the bandwagon fans. The impending return of those same fans is what’s going to make any big free agent signing particularly obnoxious. If I take any pride in this site, it’s that the regular commenters here are almost 100% diehards. I worry that, should LeBron or anyone else end up a Knick, that’ll change. I guess that makes me an elitist in a different way.
For what it’s worth, I have friends who are legitimate Celtics fans. It certainly looks annoying when everybody starts making a big stink about your team.
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by Seth on Jun 16, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On second read
I’m probably conflating “New York as the mecca” and “Knicks as the mecca”, but whatever. It’s a great article. I’m just cranky.
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by Seth on Jun 16, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just read "Pistol" by Mark Kriegel
Pretty good book.
In it he talks about how, when Pistol Pete was at LSU and his dad was coaching him, they were psyched as shit to come up to the “Mecca of basketball” (New York or, more specifically, MSG) for the NIT tournament. That was in the 60’s, before the Lakers did shit and before the Knicks won EITHER of their titles. I agree with the author, it’s not at all about championships, it’s about the feel. New York is basketball, and I guess if you disagree, you just don’t get it. I admit I sound like an asshole, but that’s just the way it is, I guess.
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by solanumbrella on Jun 16, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said
I was originally attributing too much of New York’s alleged mystique to the Knicks. New York is the Mecca of basketball. The Knicks, for the time being, are not the Mecca of the NBA.
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by Seth on Jun 16, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
incidentally
started that book yesterday. funny that you should mention.
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by Seth on Jun 16, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
said differently
for a city that is ostensibly the landmark of basketball, it surprises me how few new yorkers have given a shit about the knicks since like ‘99. it’s like we’re too cool and too basketball-savvy to care about a team when it’s faltering. that’s not fair.
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by Seth on Jun 17, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
say what you will about bandwagon fans
but tell me there’s anything you wouldn’t do, short of cutting off a nut, to get the garden banging back as it was when i first started to follow basketball.
also, i think we’re overestimating the nature of bandwagon knickdom. the garden has been damn near full all through the dark days – except in the mid-zeke era, the people attending had less to cheer for and more to yell “fire isiah” about.
by Barnesgasm on Jun 17, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no nuts
but, yeah, getting the garden ridiculous again is going to be the best part of any upswing in talent. i guess the budding bandwagonism i’m speaking of is more evident on these internets than it is in the garden itself. even throughout these years of shittiness, msg’s been as responsive as anywhere when the game gets tight.
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by Seth on Jun 17, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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