Jason Kidd to Meet With Knicks
Yikes. From the Daily News, Frank Isola delivers the story that 36 year-old Jason Kidd will sit down with Donnie Walsh and Mike D'Antoni tomorrow to discuss the potential of Kidd latching on with the Knicks.
Kidd, who helped the Nets reach back-to-back NBA Finals before being traded to Dallas two years ago, is giving the Mavericks the first chance to re-sign him. The future Hall of Fame point guard will speak with Dallas officials before he talks to the Knicks. It is believed that Kidd also will talk to the Portland Trail Blazers.
The Knicks could sign Kidd to the mid-level exception or try to negotiate a sign-and-trade with Dallas. Since the Mavs traded Devin Harris two seasons ago for Kidd, Dallas figures to make a strong push to re-sign Kidd or at least get compensation for having mortgaged its future.
The Knicks' interest in signing Kidd is twofold. Team president Donnie Walsh is looking for an experienced floor leader as well as a player who could help recruit LeBron James should the Cavaliers' superstar and league MVP become a free agent next summer.
Kidd would be an upgrade over incumbent starting point guard Chris Duhon, but there are obvious risks attached to signing a 37-year-old player. And the Knicks also have to ask themselves why Kidd is so interested in joining a team that isn't vying for a championship. The obvious concern is that Kidd simply wants to spend his twilight years living and going out in Manhattan.
Really? Because I couldn't care less if Kidd wants to spend his late 30's macking honeys at Duvet. What bothers me is his willingness to infect what is otherwise becoming a young, likable team poised to blossom into a contender in 2010.
The fact that Kidd is on my short list of stars I'll never root for (off the top of my head: Kidd, Pierce, Carter, Mourning) is my problem. If Walsh can land the aged point for the MLE and keep him for just one season, I can see the logic. Utah holds the Knicks' draft pick next summer, so it's in New York's best interest to win some damn games and knock down those lottery odds. If that's what Donnie's got in mind, then I'll survive. I'd prefer someone like Ramon Sessions (who Isola mentions), Bobby Jackson, or Jarrett Jack, but that's a product of my own beef. Hell, I'd probably take Stephon Marbury over Kidd. At least he's funny.
What frightens me is the notion that Kidd is "a player who could help recruit LeBron James should the Cavaliers' superstar and league MVP become a free agent next summer". That implies that Kidd would be around next summer, in which case I may cry. He's a dreadfully streaky shooter, doesn't move nearly as well as he used to, and is also Jason Kidd. The same Jason Kidd who's smirkingly torched New York for years (including their last playoff visit), single-handedly made Dallas uncool, and...you know.
Long story short, I can't see why New York would grab a falling star when there are young, wholesome point guards on the market. Nor do I see the appeal for Kidd in joining a non-contender in his twilight. If this gets too serious, I may resort to starting rumors. Potential future P&T headlines:
- Kidd To Puppy: "I'm Gonna Eat You!"
- Kidd Rents "Slumdog Millionaire", Sleeps Through It
- Kidd on Darfur: "No Biggie."
- Kidd Rescues Baby Polar Bear, Makes Scarf
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remember the movie about kidd's wife?
her name is jumana kidd. and there was that movie about a cross-dressing over the hill basketball player “Juwanna Mann”. i’m just saying. art imitating life.
i can’t stand jason kidd. his face is a terrible mistake. if we sign kidd at the expens of nate, or lee, i will start a fire that we can all light our torches on. we can carry these torches at the first official anti-donnie walsh picketing.
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by stingy d on Jun 30, 2009 9:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'll bring my pitchfork
i feel like people bring pitchforks to this sort of thing. i’m pretty sure i’m using beauty and the beast as my reference point.
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by Seth on Jun 30, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Old or not, he's still one of the best passers in history, and he'd be playing in an offensive system that thrives off savvy ball movement
That said, he once did this thing to his hair. Red flag:

by Ben Q Rock on Jun 30, 2009 9:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it's the principle of it all
i wouldn’t care if kidd had a PER of 800 and rocket-legs.
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by Seth on Jun 30, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also, d'antoni's system thrives off two things
1. savvy ball movement
2. not being a douchebag
I can’t be an adult about this. I don’t like Jason Kidd.
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by Seth on Jun 30, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was my little brother's very first NBA jersey,
I haven’t seen him since.
"Umm - it was - you know - umm - a good game. You know."
-Patrick Ewing
by Thelonious Dunk on Jun 30, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your little brother or jason kidd?
i hope you meant jason kidd
by Barnesgasm on Jun 30, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah screw kidd
two small points:
1) i’m adding chris bosh to the list of “stars i’d never root for,” in addition to everyone on your list.
2) if kidd really slept through slumdog millionaire, i would actually start to like him a little bit. what a lame, overrated movie.
by latrell chokewell on Jun 30, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
don't forget reggie miller
unless he wasn’t a star. but otherwise i couldn’t agree more. i’m glad we hate the right people.
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by stingy d on Jun 30, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
meh...
kidd is not one of my favorite players. I would take nash 10 times out of 10 over him.
but, i mean… whatever. I would rather root for kidd for 2 years (NO MORE THEN THAT!!!!! PREF 1 YEAR) then watch the #2 pick in the draft go to Utah.
Making the playoffs this year is huge.
by gbaked on Jun 30, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sessions
sessions sessions sessions sessions sessions sessions !!!!
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by Prezs2ReprsntMe on Jun 30, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Down.
"Umm - it was - you know - umm - a good game. You know."
-Patrick Ewing
by Thelonious Dunk on Jun 30, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Session would be a great fit
I remember he got a double-double with 20+ pts and 20+ assists against the Bulls two years ago…
by 420man! on Jun 30, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nooooooooo
just when i was starting to get excited about this team
don’t.do.it
by holycowboy on Jun 30, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i agree with all of the above about Kidd
a) i hate him, b) he’s annoying, c) his Dennis Rodman hair was really lame, and d) he’s a douchebag.
that being said, e) even at his advanced age he’s way better than this guy:

Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Jun 30, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is where kidd belongs:
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by babyeater26 on Jun 30, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dinosaurs didn't exist because Carl Everett said so. Period.
by babyeater26 on Jun 30, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sessions is cool in my book. Also Nash, not like we D up anyway.
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by solanumbrella on Jun 30, 2009 12:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WE WANT SES-SIONS!
boom boom boomboomboom
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by stingy d on Jun 30, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we all know
sessions makes too m uch sense to actually sign. it would be far too smart.
Fuckin shit…the only way we could sign him is if we had more c ap room and were able to trade away jeffries or curry.
heres a question for yall: would you give up Lee if he went with jeffries or curry for some good player (could be rubio could be someone else) in order to free up money to sign sessions?
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by Prezs2ReprsntMe on Jun 30, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sessions is your MLE
my vote is to keep lee and nate, and do our best to make curry attractive to houston or okc or somebody. i want lee and nate and chandler and gallinari THERE when the shit goes down next summer.
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by stingy d on Jun 30, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please, for the love of everything holy
Do not sign Jason Kidd.
That is the classic New York Knicks move – bring in the name guy past his prime, at the expense of developing younger guys.
If you’re going to use the MLE, I agree about trying to get Sessions. Otherwise, one more year of Duhon, with Nate and Pretty Toney eventually stealing the minutes.
If they wanted a PG, they should have drafted Jennings. They should have done that anyway, most likely.
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by DiscipleofClyde Dan on Jun 30, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think we need to keep this in perspective
April 19, 2001 was the last time the Knicks won a playoff game.
if they trotted out a starting five of Reggie Miller, Jason Kidd, PJ Brown, Pat Riley, and Francis the vomiting man, i woudn’t care – as long as they won.
i’m so tired of losing. if getting Kidd helps the team, then so be it.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Jun 30, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a strong theory that Jason Kidd is secretly behind every negative historical event in history.
It all started in 1871, when he kicked over an oil lamp that started the Great Chicago Fire. Kidd proceeded to blame it on the O’Leary’s cow.
1918: Kidd sneezed. Millions died from the Spanish flu epidemic.
1929: Kidd was lending out money to investors at such a rate that when the market turned and the bubble popped, good ol’ Jason singlehandedly plunged the nation into the Great Depression.
1963: Kidd told JFK over the phone that Dallas was typically hot, and that John should opt for a convertible, instead of a closed Ford.
The data’s all there.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Jun 30, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Id be OK for a one year deal.
Not like this season is gonna be much to watch for other than seeing the rooks and Gallo (at least if the rooks stay.).
But anything more than a 1 year deal (like is probably being discussed..) will suck.
Still, the idea in 2009 is to NOT suck so that no one has to see JOHN WALL, or DEMARCUS COUSINS! become the next great player in UTAH DAMMIT!
I really could care less about what Kidd’s done in the past, or the fact his child looks like an infected midget. Doesn’t matter IMO.
Especially if the Knicks get Rubio, who better else to show him how to be a big PG in the league?
I wouldn’t love it, but I really doubt the Knicks would suck next year with Kidd on the team. I think some people will sort of like him a bit (no homo) if he was on the Knicks and won a few games (kinda like they would if they had all the other mentioned hated players.)
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2009 3:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kidd?
Ugh, I’d rather see Eddy Curry running the point.
by nygmp42 on Jun 30, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
do you guys know that jason kidd got byron scott fired. in jersey, got the coach fired in dallas, and in college. kidds a jerk. but with the respect that d’antoni has from kidd and alot of other players across the league. it might be a good fit. plus i read some were
kidd saying a couple of months ago he would love to sign with the knicks.
If CryptoNate and Lee just say Fuk the money ( I know this is Recession) and just stay
in new york. because That chemistry these guys have togther and adding a good center
we can make the playoffs this season.
by chop.lo on Jun 30, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i mean
it’s not just that jason kidd is a dick. it’s that he’s one of the players in the league whose playing style i utterly dislike. and he was a longtime new jersey net, and was a dick about that too.
and is a dick.
by Barnesgasm on Jun 30, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well said
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by Seth on Jun 30, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i should've mentioned
my last comment was in fact a direct quote from shakespeare’s sonnet xiv. but you could probably tell from the iambic pentameter n shit
by Barnesgasm on Jun 30, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
laimbeeric pentagrameter
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by stingy d on Jul 1, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hate players who flop
and he does it more than anyone
by holycowboy on Jun 30, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Could be a positive thing
Ok, forget about Jason Kidd in the past. We don’t have a lottery pick this year, so we got to make the playoffs. This year is all about developing new talent (chandler, gallo, hill, douglas). Whether you hate Kidd or not, you have to admit that he’s made a career out of making the players around him better. Kidd would be really helpful in developing the skills and confidence of the younger guys. If it’s just for one year, how could this be a bad thing. I personally think Donnie should go with a young guy, but if this happens, how can you complain?
by StarksMiddleFinger on Jun 30, 2009 5:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sidenote about this whole playoffs thing...
You guys do know making the playoffs is gonna be tougher this year by far than last, right…
There are gonna be more strong teams and competitive teams. Who got WORSE in the east? No one really…Washington is going to be far far FAR better, of course…
teams are stepping it up, for the most part, in the East. I have no doubt that we will do better this year than last, but to be honest, i dont think we would make the playoffs even with J kidd.
Cleveland, Boston, Orlando, Washington, Chicago, Philly, Atlanta, Detroit.
We’re gonna out do one of them? I would be fucking ecstatic, but I don’t think I would toss away all morals and ethics and take Kidd for a shot in the dark playoff chance
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