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Position Battle: The Centers

Unlike the position battles at small forward and shooting guard, the competition for the starting center spot is one of mostly unfamiliar parts. The Knicks essentially played without a center last season, so the sudden surplus of big men poses a conundrum, albeit a welcome one. The available centers have very different backgrounds and utilities, so Mike D'Antoni has a wide range of options. With a short rotation, though, expect one man to rise to the top at the five spot. Your centers, after the jump...

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Eddy Curry- Curry's been around as long as any Knick, but one still doesn't know what to expect from him in a given season. He's reported to have lost quite a bit of weight and spent all summer honing his skills. It's entirely possible that Curry's recent tribulations have ignited a spark within a big man notorious for soft play. If Eddy's truly motivated, he's got the talent to be effective. It's just a matter of complimenting his offensive skillset with active defense and diligent rebounding. I know that's the word on Curry nearly every season, but with only two years left on his contract, this may be his last shot to live up to expectations. As the resident heavyweight on a team that intends to run, he'll have his work cut out for him.

Darko Milicic- Darko, like Curry, has a career colored by unfulfilled expectations. He's been buried in the lineup of pretty much every team he's joined, and hasn't responded well. In New York, though, he's got a fair shot at a starting role in a system that desperately needs a defensive presence. Darko's range and conditioning lend themselves to D'Antoniball, but his defense is the real gem. If Milicic demonstrates an ability and determination to protect the paint in training camp, he should finally get his chance at a steady job. Once again, it's a matter of mindset and motivation.

Jordan Hill- Hill could one day be the best of the batch, but is he ready yet? New York's lottery pick showed some polish in summer league, but lacked the frame and the fire to impose his will in the paint. Nerves and inconsistent teammates were part of the equation in Vegas, but it still looks as if the rookie needs to add quite a bit of muscle before he can bang in a halfcourt set. This is a D'Antoni team, though, and Hill's ability to run the floor and shoot should at least enter his name into the discussion. Perhaps the beastliness might best be developed in games themselves. After all, in three years, Jordan could very well be the only one of these guys on the roster. Might as well get him comfortable. Maybe.

Chris Hunter- I know next to nothing about this guy because he didn't really get to spin last season. He'll be in Saratoga, though, playing for unguaranteed money. Maybe you guys know something about him that I don't. Maybe he grew 8 inches over the summer. Maybe he's just a really great friend. I don't know these things. If you do, feel free to vote for him.

Jared Jeffries- I mean, he's listed as a forward-center, so I have to include him. Considering that he pulled in only a fraction of a percentage point at his natural position, I doubt Jared will have much support here. Might as well include him anyway.

There it is. Now vote.

Poll
Who's your pick to start and get the brunt of the minutes at center?
Eddy Curry
332 votes
Darko Milicic
616 votes
Jordan Hill
117 votes
Chris Hunter
10 votes
Jared Jeffries
13 votes

1088 votes | Poll has closed

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free darko! once and for all!

gotta believe that lee is the starting pf. i’d say darko compliments lee’s abilities quite nicely. he can swat some shots and clog the middle and hopefully even bring some brute force and toughness to the paint.

we haven’t had any warriors down low (pause) in years. so it might be just the remedy especially when considering what the garden faithful likes to see: brutality.

that said curry can sop up some meaningful minutes off the bench. he would give a healthy change of pace. he has soft hands (no homo) and will finish at the rim. something darko typically struggles with. hopefully thats enough to get him out of our island off the coast of america.

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by stingy d on Sep 14, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

CENTERS

Curry is a fat bum, Hill is inexperienced, and Jeffries is an embarassment. Darko is the man if he can control his bad temper.

by Vincent C on Sep 14, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh

You really should post a NSFW before posing this question. I threw up all over my office when I saw our choices.

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by Serious Garbage Time on Sep 14, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

where’s the Tskitislasidbhjl;ihab option?

by pmsjerk on Sep 14, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

So the Knicks are going with players at their optimal positions? Milicic, Lee, Harrington, Chandler, Duhon? Lee should at least be an option for center.

by mindfeck on Sep 14, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

my thought was that

the presence of all these guys would allow lee to play his natural position. i suppose i could be wrong.

by Seth on Sep 14, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

There has been some talk that Lee is a better fit at center than power forward, since he can’t shoot. But when I think about it, wouldn’t it be better to have someone who can shoot at center, so the opposing center leaves the basket?

And for anyone who says David Lee has been working on his jumper, check the stats. He had one of the worst jump shot percentages. He’s in Josh Smith land, without the three point shooting.

by mindfeck on Sep 15, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I voted Darko

but since my expectations for this year are pretty damn low, I might want to get Curry as much run as possible to see if we can ship him. If he’s skinny (well.. less fat), starts right away, and is even marginally effective, we might be able to dupe a GM desperate to shake up their roster. Which GM that is, I have no idea, but sitting Curry=keeping him, so I say play him.

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by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Sep 14, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Ditto...

I am still hoping that Curry comes back in good enough shape and plays well enough that Houston will want to trade for him. They need a decent stand in for Yao, not to mention I don’t think that they even have anyone else that is close to 7ft…which Curry can at least fill that hole…they say you cant teach height lol

by Mr. 2 on Sep 14, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to say it,

‘ but you gotta go with Curry, and hope that he plays well enough to turn into some sort of vaguely tradable commodity. Getting rid of Curry and his contract would be awesome for the team, but the only way that happens is if he proves to someone that he can play—that’s almost not as crazy as it sounds, since if he has a year almost as good as he did in 06-07 (not impossible if he really has lost the weight) someone will be interested.

I’d like to see Darko turn into something, but the guy couldn’t even play for Memphis, so whatever production they get out of him probably would not outweigh the benefits of trading Curry. It would be nice to see Hill play, but I don’t think that a full seasons worth of getting beat up on by actually NBA centers would be the best thing for his development, if he’s as raw as everyone says. So Curry, until he gets traded or proves himself worthless (again) and then some sort of combination of Darko and Hill.

by samv on Sep 14, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Basketball wise,

Darko should be the starter. Even if Curry is in the best shape of his life, I would prefer Darko. Darko blocks shots and rebounds, Curry hogs the ball and kills offensive chemistry/ball movement. But I understand the thinking that if we play Curry, chances are higher that we can trade him.

by JayJ44 on Sep 14, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe Memphis will want him.

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Sep 15, 2009 4:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

i guess i agree

you can’t really have curry and bring him off the bench if you plan to trade the guy. i’d like him to be traded, but i am not a curry hater like most people seem to be. i really want the guy to succeed and i believe he can.

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by stingy d on Sep 14, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

David Lee

I’m still picking David Lee at the 5, sorry

Duhon, Hughes, Chandler, Hariington, Lee

by Jay Jordo on Sep 14, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I voted....

Curry. If he has slimmed down and seems to realize that he has to be serious this year then we could see an improvement. If he is more agile and can stick with a defender and attempt to rebound and defend then maybe the Knicks could get some value for him since it is almost guaranteed he will not be around much longer. If you can give him minutes to show off his new found determination and then give Darko a few runs with the starters and end it with Hill going against a second or third string center it could be a win-win-win for the Knicks.
If Hill can play some minutes at power forward then he might have the strength and speed to keep up with the opponents.
For me its:
Duhon, Hughes, Harrington (or Chandler depending what we see in camp), Lee, and Curry (for the time being)

by KO_21 on Sep 15, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Off topic - but been bugging me

Why have a short rotation? I notice Thomas did, and D’Antoni seems to, but it makes no sense to me.

In D’Antoni ball, with the emphasis on running and fast pace games, why not use your players and keep everyone fresh? I think a lot of injuries are caused by players having too many minutes.

In addtion, having everyone on the team play regularly, even if only for a few minutes, keeps their heads in the game, and helps to build chemistry. In addtion, if one of your players get injured, wouldn’t it be better to have him replaced by someone who has been playing regularly?

by NYERinSF on Sep 15, 2009 2:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Because playing your best players the most leads to the most wins. D’Antoni tries to get the most wins in the regular season, and then prays for it to help in the postseason. He’s the Dusty Baker of basketball.

by mindfeck on Sep 15, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

But

Playing your best players too much (especially in a high paced offense) wears them down by the end of the season

by NYERinSF on Sep 15, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

start Darko to set a defensive tone and then bring Curry in to feast (no pun intended) on second tier talent and be the offensive anchor for the second unit.

by KnickFan4Ever on Sep 15, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Who’s the defensive anchor for the second unit? The Knicks need a PF who can defend and rebound. Like Marion.

by mindfeck on Sep 15, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jordan Hill, I’ll let you have your moment, but Chris Hunter is the best young project center on the Knicks OF ALL TIME!

I do that to stay closer to god

by Arichmix on Sep 15, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully Darko starts and Lee is the PF

need some D on the interior. D-lee, if he’s back, needs to start.

Bringing in Curry to score some points, with Nate, could be a good thing. That’s all the second unit should be focusing on (and the reason Big Al should be on the bench eventually.

Larry Hughes (and Jeffires…tho that’s unlikely) hopefully will be getting DNP-CD the whole season. I can’t stand him.

I like Chandler at the 2. I still don’t think that whole defense thing overall is gonna be an emphasis, so who really cares I guess if he’s not quick enough to guard 2 guards?

What the f$%k is the internet?

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 16, 2009 7:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Darko would be a pretty nice complement to the other four starters. Good defensively, not a plodder [a-la Curry]… give him elevated minutes at the start, and see how he responds.

by pickups on Sep 16, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

battle of center

If Ed is in shape he will win the battle.

by will gi on Sep 18, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

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