Magic Snatch Morris Almond
First of all, imagine how completely baffling that headline would be if you knew nothing about the NBA. Second of all, it's time for some knee-jerk rage. I just read this tweet from the esteemed Ben Q Rock, which led me to track down this article from the Orlando Sentinel. Why do we care about the Magic adding training camp personnel? Here's why:
The Magic have added two free agents --- guard Morris Almond and forward Linton Johnson III --- to their training-camp roster, said General Manager Otis Smith.
Almond, 6-feet-6, was a former first-round pick in 2007 by Utah and played 25 games with the Jazz last season. He averaged 3.7 points and 1.4 rebounds.
I'd like an explanation, please. You may or may not remember that Morris "Mo Nuts" Almond was on the Knicks' Summer League squad in Las Vegas and played excellent basketball. He showed expert range, an ability to drive to the basket, and even some defensive chops. Many of us were impressed, and Donnie Walsh himself mentioned his love of Nuts during an interview in Summer League. So you'd figure that all translates to a training camp invite, right? Apparently not. Gabe Pruitt got an invite. Sun Yue did too. Almond didn't. Why not? Does Walsh simply feel that the Knicks are set at shooting guard (If so, that's hogwash), or is there something else at work here? Does Almond's agent hate the Knicks? Did Morris witness Walsh strangling a hooker at Summer League? I'm sure one of New York's beat writers will get to the bottom of this. WE WANT ANSWERS.
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his love of nuts?
thats low.
i think its just that there is no room on the floor. who are we gonna sit??? larry hughes? i’d love that but its not gonna happen. nate wont sit. wilson deserves time. danilo needs to be out there. harrington has to play. and how about letting toney douglas dwtdd?? honestly unless there is a real roster shift we dont need em.
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fair points
i just don’t see any of those people as “true” shooting guards. i do think there’s room for mo nuts in the lineup, and that his presence (if he proved to be effective at the NBA level) would allow others to play their natural positions.
also
either way, i’d rather have morris almond as my last-man-on-the-bench-who-we-only-use-if-everyone-else-dies than gabe pruitt.
im with ya there
might be a two way street tho. maybe morris and skita et al are searching for the greenest pasture and perhaps its not new york???
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by stingy d on Sep 16, 2009 6:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree with SD
What would you choose? If I was Mo Nuts I would figure that if I stay and cheer on Howard I may bring a ring home. Or I can cheer Al Harington and maybe get a chance to shoot a couple 3’s every now and then in blowout losses.
ugh
when donnie said he almost traded for almond last season i thought there was no way he wouldnt be invited to camp. What makes it worse is that walsh said that during a summer league game when mo nuts was shooting the lights out
What!
I already used up all my patience watching Anthony Roberson chuck bricks while we missed out on Patrick Jr. Now we get to watch Sun Yue on the bench while Almond splashes jumpers in Orlando? I don’t know man.
I just keep telling myself: Donnie’s been around for a long time, he’s knows better than me, he knows better than me…
I’m getting moderately irked!
by StarksMiddleFinger on Sep 16, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions
Yo
Are you guys legitimately angry about who our 15th man is? Mo Almond is like JJ Redick-lite. Pardon my curtness, but who gives a shit that we didn’t sign him?
As for Donnie, I’m totally catchin what he’s throwin here. Sessions would have been a nice little acquisition and the courting of every PG over 30 was definitely weird, but Donnie’s got his eyes on the prize. Lebron or no Lebron, we’re going to essentially have our whole salary cap to blow. On real players. Sure this year might be a little bit painful, but if having Sun Yue bring in a couple million yuan makes Dolan more comfortable opening the wallet, then I’m all for it.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Sep 16, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions
You know what?
That’s a really good point. I guess I’m okay. Offseason insanity got to me I guess.
by StarksMiddleFinger on Sep 17, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry but Mo Almond is clearly a better player than Redick
he’s also a better player than Sun Yue right now. So unless Almond is feelin himself alot more than he should and demanding an actual boat load of money sailed in from a swiss acct and brought into dock on the Hudson where he’ll have a team in place to extract it, I really don’t see why you wouldn’t bring Almond in. How expensive could he be?
I understand he won’t get any burn and even if he did he might not be a huge factor. The way Dantoni has his rotations makes WHO comes in almost irrelevant. Almost.
There are still 15 men to a team. Any GOOD team will have all 15 men ready on game night.
Why not go out and get the BEST 15 men you can get???
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Sep 17, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Reddick is the better player
It doesn’t matter how Almond looked in Summer League, as well all know Summer League is a poor barometer for how GOOD a player is, but a potent one for how BAD a player is. Anyone can light up Summer League (Reddick would average about 25 and 6 in SL). The only useful purpose of it is to see who’s going to be shitty in the NBA (Thabeet, etc.). Remember, Reddick shoots 40% from the 3 and ably defended playoff-calibur shooting guards. Could Mo Nuts do that? Maybe. Has he? No.
With that said, I would’ve liked to see him in Orange and Blue.
"I'll probably go get lifted right now with Greg. Hey, and come back tomorrow and try to get another win."
-Renaldo
by solanumbrella on Sep 17, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
not saying Redddick is terrible
he’s a good role player I just don’t think he’s better than Almond, who is also nothing more than a role player at this point.
Reddick is an nonathletic non versatile spot up shooter who struggles getting his shot off against bigger and taller shooting guards. Reddick is no shrimp but there are a significant number of bigger two’s and three’s guarding him on a given night. And that D of his is greatly exaggerated.
Having sed that, he’s still a pretty good spot up shooter and I also think he’d be a good fit on our roster, not like we’d get him but still. There would be plenty open shots he could capitalize off of in D’antoniball.
I just think Almond is better. Better handle, more athletic, longer frame, excellent shooting stroke
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Sep 17, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You are so right. Walsh has a plan which we have kno n about for over a year. Let the Knicks add difference makers a year from now. Meanwhile we should let the kids play and develop so we know what we have got.
Patience is a virtue at this time. It has taken years for the Knicks to get in position to land a difference maker. We should not blow it .
still
I think we should have invited Almond to camp. He did very well in summer league. Perhaps it had to do with playing time oppourtunity, who knows
I've given up on trying to figure Walsh
I’ll forgive him in the long term because maybe he does have a genius master plan to bring us to the basketball promise land
but…
short term I wanna shoot him in the face.
his actions have contradicted his statements several occasions already. The biggest misnomer being the fact that two over the hill (pun intended) vets were offered tons of cash to come here on multi year deals despite his “sticking to the plan” mantra. One could say those vets could be used as lures for Lebron in 2010…and one would be wrong. WINNING and cash are the only relevant lures here and those moves would have dwindled both of those features.
and then came the “workouts”
Now this is old news to us and I’m already typing too much but I can’t fathom why any sane GM not suffering from dementia would operate in this manner.
It’s almost as if everyone can obtain a tryout with a legitimate shot of being a Knick except for, well….young and talented players.
I’ll get over it cuz I love the team but it aint been easy
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Sep 17, 2009 10:21 AM EDT reply actions
Its true
I mean if Grant Hill or God forbid Jason Kidd actually took the $ then that would have turned our whole plan on its ear. I guess I just want to believe that Donnie knew he was doing it as a sort of formality to show fans that we was trying. Did anyone really expect these guys to take less money and fewer years to go to a Knicks team that will be lucky to make the playoffs? I don’t really know the answer to that, but luckily we made it through the off-season without any missteps. Until Donnie fucks up big, I’m just gonna pretend that he’s masterminding a plan that will get us a real team, so as of now we’re still on track
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Sep 17, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
the offer was on the table
IF they had wanted to be here…they’d be here. All they had to do was sign. Thank the heavens and praise Tom Cruise thy didn’t. Hill actually did sign for less than we offered. Went back to PHX for only 2 mil meanwhile he had a contract on the table with us for the MLE.
I think Walsh took it serious…tooo serious, I also think Hill was serious but Kidd is a douche, he was probably jus stringing Walsh along to up Dallas’ offer not even thinking about really coming here…thankfully.
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Sep 17, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
and morris almond
was not going to redefine our team by any means, I was just impressed by summer league play and expected him to be given a shot. But we signed warren carter who only played 1/2 the minutes Morris did? wtf is going on?
ur rite
it’s just that all these small little disappointments and dodges from catastrophe make me nervous. The fact that they seem to contradict his own plan at times worries me. And the fact that I can’t put together a solid logical explanation for a few things is very very frustrating.
At this point there are no players out there that can help make a difference so as long as we get N8 nd Lee back(even though I’ll be surprised if they’re here thru the trade deadline). I’ll be happy and the brass can say the summer was a success.
But all the small miscues has me wondering what is coming next??? What plan is being schemed? Will it blow up in our face? And if so can it be avoided?
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Sep 17, 2009 11:29 AM EDT reply actions
Nuts
Those of you who think the 15th man on a roster doesn’t matter, is forgetting how short we were with all the injuries last year; also, look at what happened to the Mets as well…..just my opinion, fellas
Good thing
we found this out before Mo Nuts was featured on the official P&T t-shirts.
"Ariza on Mobley, trying to put some chillin on his thrillin"
"Vexing D, makes you hurry, makes you worry"
by Serious Garbage Time on Sep 17, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions
Well
It’s true that Mo nuts is more of a classic SG and has some shooting talent. But…. now that they know Nate is returning, and they’ve got Ghostface to back up Duhon (or vice versa, just watch) they need to get N8, Chandler, and Hughes minutes at the 2. Maybe Walsh thought it was just going to bring them more controversy than anything else, and he might be right. They need a real team player in that spot willing to accept a garbage time only role, otherwise it’s a headache for the coach.
I think Walsh likes to cultivate good relationships with players and build up his reputation as a good guy. He probably told nuts that while they liked him, there wasn’t much of a shot at cracking the rotation and that he’d be better off going somewhere else, where he can tell everyone in Orlando what a great guy Walsh is….
Lebron?
Let’s all face it. We are not in the LeBron sweepstakes. He’s looking to win a championship. He needs a team that can compete, not something we throw together after he gets here. Walsh can’t get anyone to want to come here, and LeBron will not either. We’ve got another maybe 3 years before the realize he doesn’t know what he’s doing. Hopefully, at least Mike (I can’t beleive Phoenix management was Championship or bust) D’Antoni will not last that long. Then again, the Knicks will probably be more entertaining if they continue to deny defense is part of the game.
I miss Earl. And Walt. And Willis. And Bill. And Dave.
I'm not really concerned about LeBron
Because I think Gallo and Toney Douglas are badasses and everything else will flow from there. I think Toney is our Walt because 1. he played great man to man defense in college. 2. He’s not too short, too slow, or too weak. 3. He has a good head and leadership qualities. 4. He can shoot and score the ball when he has to, and he can pass, too.
I think that after this season we won’t even want to bring LeBron in, because 1. The dude can handle the rock, shoot from outside, and he’s 6’ 11". 2. He’s got that confidence, that attitude. He’s not intimidated and he’s got the skills to back it up. And he enjoys backing it up. 3. He’s not a bad perimeter defender. Again, attitude.
I would welcome Wade coming in and being the ‘Pearl’ for us – I think that’s a great fit. But I think LeBron is not really what this team needs, unless Gallo is unable to stay healthy. Sure, I guess this is just preseason optimism, but are the Knicks worse than the Cavs without LeBron? I don’t think so.
yes. we will want leBron.
you would be out of your mind to pass on LeBron.
fail again
"the 15th man doesn't matter"
randolph morris was the heart and soul of the 2007-08 knicks and anybody who says otherwise is a hater and probably very stupid for that matter. the fifteenth man provides countless amounts of entertainment. and i’d rather it be morris almond than pretty much anybody, except sun yue.
mo is an nba-quality talent, not a starter, but a solid bench player. this will be a lot like how we passed on von wafer last year after summer league and signed anthony fucking roberson instead, and von was a contributor on a playoff team, and roberson was a deep bench guy for the bulls.

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