Position Battle: Tussle For The Two-Spot
Barring some unexpected eleventh hour dealing, the core Knicks roster is set for training camp. David Lee and Nate Robinson will be re-signed, with the only new additions being those acquired on draft night. Last year was one of constant change, though, and the frequent roster moves demanded that Mike D'Antoni shape rotations on the fly. Training camp in Saratoga could be the coach's first real chance to groom relatively new players in his system and fully assess their worth without the distraction of games. It'll also be his first chance to run camp with rookies and new acquisitions, as well as a pair of Knicks- Danilo Gallinari and Eddy Curry- who were either too hurt or too nauseated to train last time around. If D'Antoni approaches camp with a blank slate, we could see some dramatic redistribution of minutes.
The shooting guard position promises to be one spot worth some attention. Last year, after Larry Hughes was acquired, Hughes and Quentin Richardson pretty much split minutes at the two. Richardson left for a summer tour, though, and Hughes tended to disappoint, so don't be surprised if this spot's up for grabs in a couple of weeks. Let's have a look at the candidates to get minutes. The cast of characters, after the jump...
The Frontrunner:
Larry Hughes- If D'Antoni is more content than we thought, this should be the choice. Hughes brings active hands to the defensive end and passes well enough to help Chris Duhon run the offense. That said, we're all familiar with Larry's propensity to chuck. Even accounting for occasional streaks of accuracy, Hughes' eFG% of .460 puts him in the company of such virtuosos as Jared Jeffries and Zach Randolph. In an offense that all but accommodates volume shooting, I think we'd all prefer a better success rate. If Hughes is the principal two-guard, expect competent defense, but avert your eyes when he's setting up that line-drive release.
The Borrowers
Wilson Chandler- A number of additional players aren't true shooting guards, but could be utilized creatively in the D'Antoni system. Chandler is one such player. He measures up as a small forward, but there's long been talk of playing Wil as a two. He's got the right combination of size and footspeed to stick with even elite opposing guards, but like Hughes, struggles to score efficiently (.480 eFG%). Unlike Hughes, though, Chandler's still a work in progress. If he's devoted enough of his summer to honing his stroke, Wil's physical attributes could make him a monster of a two-guard.
Danilo Gallinari- Gallinari will compete with Chandler for the starting 3 spot, but could also serve as a shooting guard. He's the best pure shooter on the team, but his size lends itself to frontcourt play. Gallo played occasional minutes at the two-spot last year, but it seemed more like a ploy to keep the rookie from getting muscled around with his injured back. If Gallo's healthy and in shape, he'll likely be more serviceable as a forward.
Nate Robinson: Nate's misfit size and potpourri of talents make him the ideal sixth man, but you never know with D'Antoniball.
The New Guys
Morris Almond- We haven't gotten official word that Almond's been invited to training camp, but he better be. The 24 year-old showed a pure shooting stroke and more in the Summer League, and might not be as much of a longshot as he seems. He's got prototypical two-guard size, and enough offensive talent to have Mike D'Antoni smitten by September's end. If Mo Nuts shows the same commitment to defense that he did in Vegas, he's my dark horse to take the starting two-guard role.
Joe Crawford- Crawford's another one whose performance in Vegas demanded attention. Joe has range, but prefers to bull his way to the rim. If he can translate that same strength into tough defense, then like Almond, Crawford has a real shot to make a believer out of D'Antoni.
Toney Douglas- On draft night, I would've expected Douglas to compete at shooting guard. Given his usage and fine play in Summer League, though, I think we're all expecting Pretty Toney to apprentice with Chris Duhon as a point guard.
Odds are D'Antoni sits tight with Hughes as his primary shooting guard, but you never know. Who's your pick to start and get the brunt of the minutes at the two? There will be a separate post/poll for the small forwards, so keep that vacancy in mind as you choose. Are you satisfied with Hughes? Would you rather play someone else out of position? Might there be a diamond in the rough? Pick one and make your case in the comments.
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gotta go with chandler here
hughes is just not…. i don’t even know man.
i really dislike larry hughes’ game.
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At Least Hughes is a Legit 2
I like Chandler a lot, but he’s definitely a 3. To make the move to 2, he’s gotta hit his 3s at a better clip. I’d rather he just do what he do though, and slash to the basket. Thats where his value is maximized.
Hughes is def not the long term answer and might not be the short term answer either, but right now he’s what we got. I’m assuming he’ll start and often get yanked in favor of Nate down the stretch, but at least he plays a modicum of defense. Remind me I said this when he goes 2-12 on opening night and I want him cut.
And don’t give me that Mo Almond mess. Summer league success and new young players are nice and all, but that guy might be out of the league by next summer. Much like Roberson, he better hit some open jumpers, because he is entirely worthless if he doesn’t.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Sep 9, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions
chandler
might not be a traditional 2. but in this system, the wing players are interchangeable. so it’s gotta be chandler starting (i hope).
by latrell chokewell on Sep 9, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a problem
Chandler may be out of position at the 2, but it really isn’t a problem in D’antoni ball. The positions aren’t as rigid as in other offensive systems. Hughes chucks too much, and Gallo lacks the lateral quickness. Wil has shown good work ethic so far, so I would assume he’s been working on the jumper. On the other hand, I remember reading reports for the last two summers explaining how Jared Jeffries was working on his shot.
by StarksMiddleFinger on Sep 9, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions
did you just
compare wilson chandler’s game to jared jeffries’ game? not cool
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by stingy d on Sep 10, 2009 1:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hughes is a scrub
Such a headache in Chicago. Rather see a younger guy take his minutes lol.
Larry Hughes would be hilarious
From an opposing fan’s POV, I would be thrilled to see Hughes jack up 15-20 off-balance two-point jumpers that may or may not touch rim.
And it’s a fun distraction from the rest of the game. you can play a drinking game: whenever he takes a dumb shot take a shot of your own. [I am not responsible for any fatalities.]
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
Go Young
Last year was the year to clean house. While the job wasn’t completed, a lot of progress was made.
This year, I think we want to see some consistency, and development of young players. Almond? Crawford? Douglas? Don’t know – but I would start rotating them through.
Brand New
bring in the hungry Morris Almond, time to go with the young guns, sink or swim, I think playing the young guys will allow them to be more confiedent knowing they’ll be getting burn and you don’t have to try to rely on the veterans entrenched in their ways. They’ll show promise along with winning more games than expected and might attract future free agents. The veterans can come off the bench and work hard in practice, by not causing a ruckus they can help their cause in obtaining a new contract with whatever team. I’ve heard that D’Antoni wants to run more this year so the young fresh legs will be needed more so. Also, it seems that the younger guys are more interchangeable than some of the veterans so you can play a lineup of Douglas, Chandler, Gallo, Hill/Lee and Milicic/Hill or Douglas, Almond, Chandler, Gallo and Hill (this lineup sounds very interesting)
Start Chandler
Let the young guy ball and see weather he’ll be a reserve, or one of the keys of the future when King James, D-Wade, or Chris Bosh arrives
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call me crazy
but I think Danilo can play the 2. Either way you put it, Chandler and Gallo at the 2 and 3, bring Harrington and N8 off the bench to spell them, don’t even deal with N8 at point guard at all.. by midseason I’d like to see Douglas, Chandler, Gallo, Lee and Darko as the starting five, with Duhon, N8, Harrington and J.Hill off the bench. After they trade Curry of course.
SG
Hughes by default. i got Chandler at the 3. D’antoni’s offense is supposed to be about up tempo, full court ball movement, which should lend itself to easy buckets which should make Hughes shooting pct. less of an issue. gotta get people who CAN defend on the floor to set a tone if we’re gonna sniff the playoffs. the offense should come with the style of play. i say Duhon, Hughes, Chandler, Lee, Milicic. with Nate, Al, and Hill rounding out an 8 man rotation. Gallo’s gotta show me he can handle 3’s and or 4’s defensively to get any P.T.
by The Bronx-178st on Sep 12, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
I really don't like to rant, but...
I cringed when we hired our GM. I cried when we hired our coach. I hear talk of defense, I remember last year, and I ask when? what defense?
First, Mr. Walsh did a great job unloading bad contracts. Great, great job. But you have to be able to bring people in as well. D’antoni would make a great college coach, but in the NBA, defense is a must. I mean, he was very satisfied with winning in the regular season and choking (except one year) in the playoffs. He actually stated that he took offense to the Suns management not being satisified with that!! Well, New York will not be either (I pray)!
Saving cap room to entice LeBron? Try this LeBron quote of a famous quote… “Defense wins championships.” Remember this, LeBron wants a championship. He wants to be on a team that he can lead to a championship. He is not looking to join a team that has no one else on it. Everybody’s contract ends next year (save 2 we don’t want). I don’t think D’antoni’s run and gun style is any way to accomplish it any way. It may make mediocre teams look fun and exciting for awhile, but win a title? The talent Phoenix had should have won except for their lack of (overall) defense. We need to rebuild. Start with a GM that can bring in talent; A coach that understands defense; then players who will fill their roles and play together. At both ends of the court.
I really don’t like to rant.
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