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Pistons 94, Knicks 90

Sorry, but I'm gonna be repeating myself a lot here. For the second night in a row, the Knicks fell behind big with feeble play in the first half, then stormed almost all the way back  for a deceivingly close final score. As was the case in the last game, tonight's Knicks played like their 1-9 selves, trying to reconcile 3 quarters of piss-poor basketball with one period of execution. Just like last night and that stretch in November, it was too little, too late. Nobody was surprised.

Take the jump for a few notes.

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- Somebody needs to help David Lee on the boards. Lee got overwhelmed by bigger guys (Chris Wilcox looked like an All-Star tonight. Yikes.), but still managed 17 boards. Jeffries, Chandler, and Gallinari have to help box out to compensate for the frontcourt's lack of size. If there was one difference between tonight and last night, it's that the Pistons didn't shoot nearly as well as the piping-hot Raptors did, but made up for it with even more (20) offensive boards. The overall rebounding edge was 51-39.

- In what has become a recurring theme, Chris Duhon and Nate Robinson both flunked running the point. Neither attacked the rim with any conviction, thus preventing the Detroit defense from ever collapsing. Nothing new. Nate, for his part, started getting over screens, distributing and hitting shots in the fourth quarter. Duhon sat for the entire fourth and most of the third. Instead of turning to Toney Douglas (which was at least worth a try, if you ask me), D'Antoni opted to go a few minutes in the second half with a five-forward rotation. Jared Jeffries brought the ball up with Lee, Danilo Gallinari, Al Harrington, and Wilson Chandler. It wasn't great, but it also wasn't any worse than what the guards were bringing to the table. If anything, the ball moved more.

- On that note, David Lee has been far and away the Knicks' best passer through the last two games. For the second night in a row, he fell one assist short of a triple-double, posting 26, 17, and 9, despite a rough shooting night from outside. Dave's got good eyes and excellent timing from his station at the top of the key, and I'd happily let him quarterback the offense if that's what works best. I'm not saying Lee should bring the ball up, but people get rewarded for cutting so he might as well be the one dishing.

- Larry Hughes made his first appearance in a while with a stint in the second quarter. Hughes, according to Alan Hahn, was not thrilled with the cameo:

"Larry Hughes calls being tossed back into action (8:24 all in the first half) "a joke"."

Hughes: "It's frustrating, really. I'll kind of leave it at that."

I'll remind you that this is the same Larry Hughes who shot 0-4 and had one of his shots blocked out of bounds off his own forehead. No further comment.

- Chucky Atkins should never, ever hit layups against an NBA defense.

- Add Charlie "Villanuev-er" to the list of names Walt Frazier mangles.

- At halftime, Lee and Gallinari had 29 of the Knicks' 37 points, which probably wasn't ideal.

- Had Gallinari not been fading and aiming his shots in the first quarter, he probably could've hit 40 tonight (same as the last game). Still, 27 and 4 on 8-16 shooting is pretty damn good for a guy who looked pretty underwhelming in the early going. Eerily similar performances to last night's for both Gallinari and Lee.

- More silliness: The Piston bench outscored the Knicks' 20-2 in the first half, while Detroit as a team managed a 13-0 edge on the fast break through the first two quarters. Oh, and the Knicks shot 4-21 (I think) in the second. Again, not ideal. Remember those emergency eye wash stations you had in high school chemistry? I needed one of those after the second quarter.

- If you're going to throw a fancy pass, don't throw it to Jared Jeffries. In fact, don't pass to Jeffries period. He doesn't want the ball. Jared knows his role, and seems perfectly content to just hang around the rim and get after rebounds on offense. He's not looking to score.

- Tonight's silver lining: Jordan Hill! Besides getting outmuscled on a few rebounds (which is to be expected), Jordan looked marvelous in a prolonged second half appearance. D'Antoni let Hill spin even into the waning moments, and Hill produced. He delivered an and-one, a nice turnaround J, and a gorgeous up-and-under boogie on the left side of the rim. Said Clyde after that last one, "I haven't seen that move much from Hill...Well, he hasn't played much."

- If you turned off this game early, you missed Ben Wallace striking the bottom corner of the backboard with a free throw.

- I have a new favorite commercial. There's this Sleepy's ad now with a kid jumping up and down wildly on a competitor's bed, then bouncing over to a Sleepy's bed. As soon as he sets foot on the Sleepy's bed, the li'l rugrat goes out like a light. Like, just drops dead. Sleepy's is selling nerve gas-laced mattresses.

And that is all. The Knicks and Pistons will tangle again on Monday night at the Garden. New York will need to take that one back to make up for tonight's stinker. I deeply, deeply hope what we saw tonight and last night is not indicative of Knicks basketball for the rest of the season. It's not a good look. More tomorrow. Love.

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also, apologies for the site outage during the fourth quarter

the whole network was down. would’ve sucked if the knicks pulled it off while the game thread was defunct. thankfully, they did not.

by Seth on Jan 16, 2010 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

Starting too resemble those other Knicks...

blown out in the first half only to make it close in the 2nd?

How come China can't vote David Lee for All-Star?

by FreeBradshaw on Jan 16, 2010 11:57 PM EST reply actions  

going to the game on monday, don’t know what to expect

by tz88 on Jan 17, 2010 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

dnp cd for hughes

and lots of scaredy cats. al harrington is gonna chuck.

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by stingy d on Jan 17, 2010 10:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Well

It looks to me like teams have begun to adjust to the Knicks slow-down resurgent ways. I bet that one of the things teams are noticing is that it makes a lot of sense to go aggressively for offensive rebounds against the Knicks. Also, I’m sure they know to let Duhon try and hurt you. He probably won’t do it, most nights.

The Knicks also seem to be suffering from having no backup point guard. I think that it’s time to sit Hughes and his crappy attitude permanently. I think the dude just lost his spot to Douglas for the rest of the season. Larry, you’re not that good and you’ve never been that good to get what you think you deserve, minutes-wise.

The Knicks need to figure out an answer to this giving up a lot of offensive rebounds thing. Gallo and Chandler need to get after it, and if that doesn’t work, they might need to work in Hill a bit more. The good thing is that teams have had plenty of time to figure out a way to stop Lee and they don’t seem to be able to. Good to see Gallo fighting through with a couple of halfway decent games after his 0 point clunker. But all in all, Coach D has to figure out how to answer back now that teams are starting to adjust to us.

by fuhry on Jan 17, 2010 12:13 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Playoffs Fading Fast

Just a few days ago it looked like we were going to sneak into the playoffs for the first time since 2004. Now it looks like more of the same, failure and frustration for one of the NBA’s oldest franchises. I don’t think we can catch the Bulls and that is no bull. OK—-if we’re not going to make it, let’s at least have some fun. More craziness from Robinson, more J. Hill. It may be early (we’re not to the All-Star game yet)—-this team had a good spurt but it looks like premature ejaculation to me. Hey Knicks, you gotta stay hard!

"It's a cookbook!"---The Twilight Zone

by Buck18 on Jan 17, 2010 1:01 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

i was thinking of a new website. something along the lines of www.larryhughespleasestopbitchinglikealittlebitch.com or perhaps just www.larryhughespleasestop.com

by patrickm23 on Jan 17, 2010 1:01 AM EST reply actions  

What the hell happened with Chandler?

Lee’s been consistent, the Cock has a been semi-

…but what happened to Chanlder flying to the rim? Getting boards? Have teams figured him out again?

Also..Duhon? I know he wasn’t much to begin with..but is he taking a shit again?

Also…Larry Hughes situation seems to be getting to headache level. He needs to go. He’s useless in his role right now. I’d rather he be in this role then starting..but he’s too much of a headcase to be in it.

Ship his ass out for a box of wheat thins.

How come China can't vote David Lee for All-Star?

by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 11:50 AM EST reply actions  

I dont think we can make the playoffs with dohon and his inconsistent play. Toney doesn’t look like he plays well in spurts. I hink coach should show some confidence in toney and let him start. You look at aplayer like (okc) westbrook this is a kid that could not run the point last year, was not at all a good shooter but his coaching staff kept encourging him and sticking with him and now look,! he’s one of the better 2nd year pts. The same goes for Jordan, he would be further along if the knicks would have showed a little love from the start.

by FreejordanHill!!! on Jan 17, 2010 12:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

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