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Editor's Note: My notes will come later, so check out Fuhry's for now.

Managed to see a good chunk of this one, so I'll offer up a recap here.

Knicks started decently, then looked like they were getting abused by Ben Wallace.  In comes Hill at the end of the second quarter, and to my eyes he changed the tenor of the game with his energy and aggressiveness.  He hit a couple of shots as the Knicks got hot in the second, and made a couple of mistakes there too, but in general, a positive experience. Chandler looked good in 1st half too, and the Knicks closed off the quarter pretty well to take a big lead.  In the 3rd, the Knicks got a little cold and the Pistons stormed back - but the Knicks managed to only be down two to start the fourth.  I had a feeling that they might have given the Knicks their best shot, and it kind of turned out that way.

Star-divide

Some notes about the Pistons: 1. Ben Wallace can still play.  2. Villanueva looked very impressive out there... but when the chips were down he didn't kill us.  Maxiell looked better under pressure.  3. Austin Daye might have a Gallinari type of game if he can hit a three once in a while.  4. Rodney Stuckey took - and missed - a lot of shots.  5. The Pistons don't appear to have a very balanced team.  Glad we're not them. 

Now onto the Knicks: It looks like Chandler sat for good after a couple of turnovers in the 3rd quarter meltdown - but he had 6 rebounds and 4 blocks.  I like.  Duhon once again could not shoot at all.  Though he did throw a sweet alley oop to Nate, he just did not look effective out there.  He usually at least takes care of the ball, but he had 4 turnovers today.  Not good.  D'antoni stuck with Nate running the show through the entire 4th quarter, and Nate did a good job.  He didn't throw any of those jump passes.  In fact, he played it safe with his passes and let Lee and Jeffries help him create.  He also hit some big shots, and I did not see any instance where he hurt us defensively.  He was a weapon and not a liability tonight.  Keep up the good work, Nate.  Though, if you notice, without Duhon, Lee does not get nearly as many easy buckets - only 11 for him tonight.  But with 15 boards, and 5 assists, I'll take it.

Midway through the 4th, it looked like the Knicks were going to run away with it as Gallo got hot - then the Pistons stepped up their D and Gallo missed one and all of a sudden the Knicks looked cold.  In steps Jeffries with a couple of huge offensive rebounds, one where he was fouled and hit both (I let out a Marv "YES!" then) and one where he hit a little jumper from just inside the foul line.  Good game from Jared from what I saw.

At that point the Knicks swarming D took over and looked good, especially Harrington.  Loved his defensive intensity in the 4th quarter.  Good game from Al tonight overall.   After another difficult Maxiell bucket (Damn, that guy was tough), the Knicks came down needing a basket.  Gallo looked timid but they got it to Lee who used his speed to get a step on Wallace and scoop it under for the and-1.  Game.  All Star move, David.  The guy doesn't get intimidated or distracted - just plays his game.  Despite not really hitting his longer jumpers and facing a lot of fierce pick and roll defense, and playing with 5 mostly tacky fouls, he was ready to do his thing and hit a big bucket at the end.

The Knicks got more efficient shooting tonight and played hard and pulled it out.  Their turnovers were a little high, but the big problem I continue to see is allowing the other team to get offensive rebounds.  The Pistons got 19 tonight.  Granted, Ben Wallace is the master at that sort of thing, but the Knicks have to figure out a way to put a stop to that.  The Pistons were 0-12 from downtown and had they hit a few of those the Knicks could have very easily lost this game.

But I'll take it.  Good, entertaining win.

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Nice write up

Trivial quibble — Lee was off this game regardless of who played guard, but the overall point probably has some validity. Duhon runs the screen roll well; in fact it’s his only discernible skill. In Nate’s defense, he pushes the ball and creates easy baskets on the break in a way Duhon does not.

Defensive boards — the Pistons just pounded us on the boards. The refs allowed a very physical game and we did not respond well at times. (As you note, our 3pt shooting saved us.) The officials, for their part, allowed a TON of contact. For all the players Detroit was missing, they can still throw a lot of big bodies at you. New York has to be able to play a more physical game. Oddly, this was a game where a reasonably healthy Curry would have had a chance to contribute by just putting a big body on somebody.

Duhon looks as though he may be about to exhaust what appears to be Mike D’Antoni’s almost limitless patience with him.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jan 18, 2010 5:39 PM EST reply actions  

Good points

And I thought Hill helped in giving the Knicks a little muscle to throw back at them.

by fuhry on Jan 18, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Luis Big sighting tonight....

and Al playing well is always a plus.

by Lopey21 on Jan 18, 2010 6:14 PM EST reply actions  

Robinson

I take back all the “he wasn’t helping us and should not be part of the rotation” throughts that I had been having

I am going to move onto the “we should not be playing duhon and give his minutes to Douglas”

Maybe Duhon will get 20 in his next game

by a hay on Jan 18, 2010 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

ditto

This needed to happen about three weeks ago

by Mr. 2 on Jan 18, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Its good to see the knicks bounce back after those tough losses to Toronto and @ Detroit

Cheering for the "Wrong" New York Teams Since 1995

by Jetsmets321 on Jan 18, 2010 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

Nate: Dangerous and In Danger

Without Nate in there today, the Knicks looked bad. They stood around. He brought energy to the team and protected the ball—-played good defense, too. Played smart. BUT: when the Pistons (finally and too late) put pressure on him outside, so he couldn’t hit his threes, he had to get rid of the ball hurriedly and the other guys didn’t convert much, although Gallo came through late. We need another guard to complement Nate. Duhon just can’t do it. Not physical enough, not big enough, certainly no shooter even when he does get inside, which isn’t often. Hill looked pretty good in the few minutes he played—-very nice touch on his outside shots. He will grow into being a good big man. Meanwhile, Clyde continues to be a wonderful color man—-I love his sometimes baroque attempts at erudition and his rhyming stuff. But he really got it right when he called NBA players “Nocturnal Creatures” prone to make mistakes during afternoon games. Perfection.

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by Buck18 on Jan 18, 2010 8:00 PM EST reply actions  

helluva game!

Plus lucky me staying in shape, I was able to get a big kids David Lee Jersey for only $48 at halftime!!!

Props to J.Hill! I hope we keep up this tempo and energy cause were only 7 games out of .500!!!

by dpileofashes on Jan 18, 2010 8:13 PM EST reply actions  

I think D'Antoni needs to expand his rotation..

in the second half of games more. Hill needs to get more time, in the second and third quarter at least. It doesn’t look like Walsh is gonna make any moves, so we’ll need Hill and Douglas to get more time. WE NEED TO MAKE A MOVE!! We wont make the playoffs with the current 7 1/2 man rotation. Hill needs more time if Walsh doesn’t DO SOMTHING!

by gaga71 on Jan 18, 2010 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

P.S...

If he doesn’t make a move, GET US A DRAFT PICK, please!

by gaga71 on Jan 18, 2010 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

Few game notes:

1. Pistons can’t shoot free throws. At some point in a 3d quarter I thought they missed more FTs than they attempted.
2. DLee never gets a call. I think I saw him clobbered with a bat. Twice. And Dave was called for offensive foul against the bat. Thanks god the bat in Pistons uniform missed both FTs. See above.
3. Du looks exhausted. This is the last year all over again.
4. Thank you, P&T and personally Al Harrington for free tickets for today’s game.

by YIK on Jan 18, 2010 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

Damn! Look at the community development!

props to T-Mobile?

"I'll probably go get lifted right now with Greg. Hey, and come back tomorrow and try to get another win."

-Renaldo

by solanumbrella on Jan 19, 2010 12:58 AM EST reply actions  

Even though a win is a win...

The Pistons we played yesterday was a d-league team.

by mercy on Jan 19, 2010 9:47 AM EST reply actions  

yea the knicks definitely should have taken both games… they needed them considering the upcoming schedule they have

Knicks Record:

16-22

by GaLeeNateri on Jan 19, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

something i forgot to mention

did gallinari attempt a pass through his legs in the closing minutes? i could’ve sworn he did.

by Seth on Jan 21, 2010 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

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