It's been far, far too long: New York @ Toronto Preview
Okay sportsfans, let's cut the bologna (I'm looking at you, Carmelo Anthony) and get down to tangibility. Your New York Knicks will face off with our neighbors to the north, the Toronto Raptors, in just one days' time. For a staggering third time in ten years, the Raptors have lost their best player to uncontrollable circumstances and have been left reeling. Let's take a look at what's going on in Toronto, new home of the glorious Leandro Barbosa, and compare how the Knicks match up.
Thank God it's basketball season again.
Let's start at point guard.
Jose Calderon has long been the darling of efficiency buffs, as he sports a borderline martian assist/turnover ratio. Additionally, this Spanish man has always had quite the shot and can pass the hell out of the ball. At his best, he was top-ten in the NBA at both dishing and swishing while taking care of the ball and providing spicy flare. However, that is only the first half of the book; a book whose ending is shitty at defense.
82games says: Point guards who are checked by Jose Calderon sported a 22.6 Player Efficiency Rating in 2009-2010. That is almost exactly one point higher than what Steve Nash posted last season. Steve Nash, who finished eighth in MVP voting last year.
Raymond Felton, if you're reading this, start yourself in Fantasy Basketball.
Now onto shooting dunking guard.
Calling DeMar DeRozan a "shooting" guard would be like calling LeBron James a "small" forward; sure that's his position, but how inaccurate is the inherent description? All things considered, DeRozan shot 16 total threes last year and hit on only four of them. He can't really pass at all and he fouls a lot on defense, but he jumps out of the gym, rebounds pretty well and shoots a respectable percentage. Plus, subjectively, I thought he looked great in summer league.
Bottom line about DeRozan: He's straight-up not as good as Leandrinho.
Small forward.
The Raptors have been remodeled at the small forward position for the 2010-2011 season, getting rid of the old and unsightly (Hedo Turkoglu), and bringing in the new and equally unsightly (Linas Kleiza).
Kleiza has bounced around the planet Earth for the past couple of years, managing to stay gone long enough to make everyone forget his strengths: scoring and rebounding, and his weaknesses: defense and defense. Kleiza was never really good at defending small forwards because he's not fast enough laterally, and it's unlikely he'll be assigned to guard any of the Knicks' bigger guys. So, although Gallo isn't significantly quicker, expect Kleiza to have a hard time guarding him.
A couple notes: Kleiza played this summer for the Lithuanian National team and played fantastically. He led Lithuania to a bronze medal. Also, he once scored 41 points in a game against the Jazz. So...there's that.
Power Forward.
Well, this is awkward. Let's just move on, yeah?
Every single player the Raptors are going to throw at Amar'e Stoudemire can be described, some more than others, as "foul prone." Expect Stoudemire to attempt about 15 free throws courtesy of Amir Johnson, Reggie Evans, David Andersen and Joey Dorsey. Of course, they'll collectively draw a ton of fouls as well, and I can't think of a single player on the team other than maybe Evans who Timo Mozgov can guard, but we'll see, huh?!
Other power forward.
You're not fooling me, Bargnarni! One of Clyde's favorite players to pronounce and one of the league's most femininely-named players, Andrea has historically given the Knicks fits. I can remember, a few years ago, watching Barsh and Bargnarni going apeshit on the Knicks' frontline, who, as Eddy Curry and Malik Rose driven as any team in the NBA, were rendered completely helpless against their midrange attack. Bargnarni takes a lot of flack for being a number one overall and for playing softer than cotton, but he's an extremely talented shooter and can, surprisingly, block the hell out of the basketball. So long as he's dragging big men out to the perimeter, he'll always terrify me.
Let's dance this dance.
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I was reading an article about Ewing Sr and the attitude he instilled in his teammates.
They said how when the Big Fella was around, the Knicks always beat who they were supposed to beat. Sure, they would take their losses at the hands of the MJ’s and Reggie Millers, but Ewing made sure that no lottery team ever walked into the Garden and stole a victory.
If we’re going to be a playoff team, we need to set the tone, and it starts with this game. The Raptors are projected to be terrible. We need to win every winnable game if we’re going to the playoffs. The Knicks had better lock down and scrap it out even if it’s not pretty.
They will be for!
by StarksMiddleFinger on Oct 26, 2010 7:30 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
You see it when you see this team as a whole
Got my swag on son
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Love me some Patrick Sr., but
I’m old enough to remember that the Knicks used to lose a lot — A LOT — of games to inferior opponents in those days too. Just the way the ball bounces.
Dishin' and swishin' in transition
by Serious Garbage Time on Oct 27, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't wait for this
new era of NYKs!!..hopefully.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Go NY
Go New York, go New York, GO!
First season in FOREVER that i’m really excited and first time ever I have season tickets. Should be amazing.
If anyone is interested in a 5-game plan, later on in the season, let me know.
Go KNICKS!
Awesome.
PG for Raptors
Really is a two-headed monster, with Jarrett Jack arguably the better of the two. I kinda like Jack’s game, but still think we should take this no problem. SHOULD. Come on Knicks, play like you can and run these guys panting into their own locker room!
Calderon vs. Felton
I’ve been thinking about this a lot this offseason. I’m pretty pleased with/excited by the start of Raymond Felton era given how awful our PG situation has been for the past… uh, for a long, long time. But especially before we signed him and even a little bit since, I’ve been wondering what our outlook on the season would be if we’d managed to pry Calderon away from the Raptors (who don’t seem very high on him anymore).
On the plus side, he’s sort of a Nash-lite on offense, which obviously would bode very well for his production in this system. On the downside, he’s sort of Nash-lite on defense, which… yikes. He’s almost the anti-Felton in that way.
Given that the preseason has given us glimpses at a team that seems to actually… play defense, I can’t say I’m sorry we got Felton because he’ll be a key component to that. But at times when the offense stagnates, ya gotta wonder…
When the offense stagnates
that’s when Felton has got to go hell bent to the rim. He does have the quickness and ability to do that. I don’t think he did it very much during the preseason because he was trying really hard to learn the offense. During games that count, if we can’t get a bucket, he can force his way into the lane. Even if he doesn’t score, it makes the defense collapse, and hopefully creates more space and opportunities for other guys.
They will be for!
by StarksMiddleFinger on Oct 26, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I can see the doomsdayers
screaming for D’Antoni’s head if we lose the opener. No biggie. It’d be pretty nice to win, and would set us of on the right foot. But I always remind myself of that 6-2 start we had a couple seasons ago. Look how that turned out.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
The problem is they have four really tough games in a row right after this
So it would be nice if they could beat the Raps
November’s looking pretty easy, overall, though. I’d be disappointed if they weren’t hovering around 11-9 or 12-8 by the start of December
Prediction
Joey Dorsey grabs more rebounds than Amar’e, Turiaf and Mozgov combined, but Amar’e also scores 38 (half from the line) and the Knicks win on a last second layup by Felton.
Reading everybody's else's preseason predictions is really
bumming me out. So many writers, even NY beat writers, seem to think we are worse than the 76ers, Nets, even the Wizards.
Then I saw that we got out-rebounded by, on average, 12 boards a game in the preseason. That is…. incredible.
You can say it was preseason, but it was preseason for the other guys too.
12 boards a game… jeezus. Am I panicking? Or do we need to tell Mozzy, Ronny and whoever starts at the 2 or 3 that you need to get those averages up or we’re going to replace you?
I read Seth’s post, but honesty I just can’t see how we can win consistently if we are getting destroyed every night on the boards. Should we look into grabbing Erick Dampier? Go to the D League, grab the best rebounder there, and give him Ronny’s minutes if Ronny doesn’t start boarding?
‘Cuz I like Ronny and everything, but he can’t really shoot.
He’s an excellent passer, agreed, and an excellent shot-blocker, agreed; but don’t we need rebounds out of the C position more than we need either of those two things? I mean, if he makes sweet passes but gives up 15 boards, why should he be on the court?
If Ronny and Timmah can improve their rebounding numbers, I really think we will be scary / dangerous this year.
This is why AR needs to calm down and become a factor
He is the best natural rebounder on our team (and a very good shot blocker to boot)… he can’t spend the season riding the pine because he takes terrible shots every time he gets the ball.
if he moves the ball more on offense
he’ll stay on the floor aplenty
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furthermore
i only like 2 ny beat writers and there are maybe 10…. so one out of 5, basically…. and they tend to refrain from making baseless predictions, which is why i like them.
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REBOUNDING
ITS A PRoblem b/c of the combination of our scheme to run the floor for fast break pts along with (more so)the attention paid to trying to block every single shot. We have to find a middle ground for this. With moz, turiaf, and randolph (the 3 guys who should be responsible for most of our boards) they attempt to swat anything that comes near, this leaving them out of position to properly box out the opponent. Im all for the up in steals and blocks, but we gotta have guys that want to box out as much as guys who want to go for blocks. Got to be smart when to do both to be an effective team defense.
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