Why our Knicks will represent against .500+ teams
Evening, Knickerbocker rockers. I wanted to get this post up before the Denver game, which I was lucky enough to attend (first game in easily 5 years!), and which has jacked us all up with an even bigger dose of medical-grade enthusiasm, but life intervened. Take the jump to see why I think our Knicks should win at least forty percent of their contests versus winning teams (bonus: there is no mention of Melo rumors herein!).
Fist, let's get the obvious out of the way. Amar'e Stoudemire appears to be the best thing to have happened to this franchise at least since Latrell Sprewell or Allan Houston, both of whom he is much better than, and probably since Patrick Ewing, who's more on par in terms of talent and impact. I could reasonably spend way too much of this post discussing his grandeur. Instead, I offer this observation: since 1985-ish I can't recall the Knicks ever having a player whom actually deserved and received the chant of "M.V.P." at any point in any season. Pat certainly had some otherworldly campaigns, but unless your first name was Michael and your last name was Jordan, no one bothered chanting M.V.P. for you in the late 80s or early 90s (excepting Magic Johnson, Karl Malone, and Charles Barkley when he was out-of-his-mind good as opposed to just out of his mind, god bless him). This sounds pathetic (though not to you, my friends, I am sure), but my spine tingled at the game when the crowd chanted these three heretofore verboten letters to our current hero. My friend who went to the Denver game with me said, "I hope Stoudemire is to the Knicks what Lew Alcindor/Kareem was to the Lakers." Aiming a little high, perhaps, but I second this desire. You should too.
The other obvious stuff is that our man Raymond is playing at an All-Star level (please join me in voting for him and voting for him often!), and our role players are not messing up at all. Gallo and especially Chandler and Fields have been fantastic this season so far.
Now, here are the reasons why I really think they'll make some noise with the better teams in the league (a club the Knicks will soon join, in my estimation, if they haven't already):
Confidence. This is obvious too, but it bears mentioning. We have not had a team with this much confidence since, well, since I really can't remember. Maybe 1999, which felt a little like cheating? Of course this confidence can fade, and probably will if and/or when they hit a skid, but having tasted it they will be able to get it back.
The Knicks play a lot of home games. Of their remaining 57 games, 31 (I think -- too lazy to look at the schedule to see if I already counted the Denver game just passed) will be played at the Garden. They've got to make it their house! (And of course, they ain't too shabby on the road, either).
Great performances by opposing stars haven't mattered. Here are some bad guy stat lines from our last 13 wins:
DEN Melo 31 pts & 13 rebs
TOR Bargnani 41 pts & 7rebs & 6 assts
MIN Love 33 pts & 15 rebs
NJ Lopez 36 pts & 5 rebs
DET Prince 31 pts & 8rebs & 7 assts
LAC Griffin 44 pts & 15 rebs & 7 assts
GS Ellis 40 pts & 5 assts, Curry 29 pts & 8 assts
You know what the Knicks think of these numbers? Not much. Our guys have been able to take big punches and punch back. The main thing I think we can take from this point is that the Knicks are playing timely defense on a regular basis. Our offense is so good that, for our guys, a block or steal at the right time can be the difference in the game. This may not be as effective in the playoffs, but it is during the regular season, and it's a hell of a lot of fun to watch.
Free throw shooting. This decidedly un-sexy aspect of the game is paying big dividends for the Knicks. Gallo, Felton, STAT, and Chander are shooting at a high percentage. For a rookie, Fields is as well. The Knicks are second in team FG%, and most importantly they've been getting to the line. The reason this is key is that they don't need flash or even perfectly executed plays to succeed at the stripe; and they can do it against any team, no matter how good they are. If the Knicks continue to be aggressive – and with STAT and Felton setting the tone there's no reason to think they won't continue, or even improve on, this trend – then they can continue to score a lot of very easy points. Not to mention that in close games we have no less than four players who are excellent free throw shooters, making it harder for opponents to steal games with the intentional foul. There is no easier way to score in basketball (unless you're the bastard child of Chris Dudley and Shaq, in which case you'd probably be more likely to join the Freak Show than the N.B.A.) than with the free throw, and the Knicks have been very good at this.
The Knicks offense is insanely good. According to this site, as of today your New York Knicks lead the league in scoring. When they score 100 points, they are 14-4. More telling is that when their opponents score 100 points, they are still winning at 10-8. This isn't stellar, but it is an indication of how good we have been. We must hope that against the league's better defenses this trend will continue.
Clyde will soon start creating new rhymes for these Knicks. Walt, I humbly suggest "beasting and feasting" for any time STAT dunks all over someone; and when he's swishing from the elbow, let "Stoudemire's caught afire!" fall from your lips.
Anyway, them's The Grammarian's thoughts. Big love all my PnTers. Bring on the Celts!
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Sure wouldn't hurt.
Total fantasy: Kevin Love.
by Clyde's Grammarian on Dec 13, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
imagine
Friggin guy can ever shoot threes.
by Daniel Zimnikov on Dec 13, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
The post defense of Amare/Love
might be so bad as to horrify opposing bigs, rendering them ineffective on offense.
That would be our only hope, by the way.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
by The Rooster on Dec 13, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
The Knicks current strat is to let the team's opposing star have a career night.
Which is what lack of defense will do. But, I’m ok with it as along as we keep winning.
Exactly
I think Knick fans know what it’s like to have one guy put up numbers while everyone else watches. Maybe the strategy is to turn every team into that?
Only one guy gets into a good rhythm, everyone else is cold at the end of the game, and you know who to clamp down on.
by superturboultra on Dec 14, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
The Knicks play at the third fastest pace in the league, of course they score a lot of points
you neglected to mention that they give up the fourth most points in the league.
The Knicks play at the third fastest pace in the league, of course they give up a lot of points
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
by The Rooster on Dec 13, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Clyde says it all the time...
you don’t need stellar D, just get stops when you need em.
I don’t know if I completely agree with him but he’s the one with the rings.
Starks > Jordan
well...
i think his point is “timely stops”. he also talks about “timely hoops”. its really a matter of rising to the occasion. and whether we have the mental fortitude to be prepared for the occasion, and still execute under pressure.
case in point could be the past few years of mavericks. good defense. good offense. but they wilt under pressure.
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didnt see this
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
in games
clyde is always talking about knicks needing timely hoops/stops.
he also says, “move the ball. move yourself.” for offense. and “see the ball, see your man” for defense.
this is what will propel you to victory.
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nah, i meant.
I didnt see that u mentioned “timely stops”. I wrote it before i seen you already did
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
"Timely stops at the hoop"
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
Get Carmelo
Amar’e was a beast before he got hurt and I think he is the closet thing to an modern day Moses Malone. He is getting his chance to shine. Carmelo makes this team scary good -especially if they can keep Chandler and Fields.
I would sacrifice Gallo, Bill Walker, Mozgov, Turiaf -etc. I think with Carmelo/Amare/Chandler and Fields you have an extremely athletic line up who can do it all -shoot, dunk, rebound and pass. Defense may be an issue -but the Knicks are tantalizing close to being a perrenial contender -if this is their core.
You're replying to the wrong post
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
by The Rooster on Dec 13, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
not to mention
completely missing the point of this post.
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yea man
we’re not worried about a career night, and we shoudln’t be. we play our game, and force them to adapt. we’re at our best when everyone on the floor is a threat. thats why i like the current starters. its constant pressure on the opposing defense. a hot start for the bad guys should not really slow down our attack. come 4th quarter time- the bad guys should be huffing and puffing. and the further we are into the season, the harder it should be to match our legs.
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and besides
if one of our opponents goes away with a career night at least they won’t feel as bad about losing. So it’s sort of a win win where we end up winning a little bit more.
The Landryman Can
Good point.
The Knicks do seem to be pretty fit. I wouldn’t want to play 48 minutes against them. Shoot, I wouldn’t want to play 3 minutes against them.
by Clyde's Grammarian on Dec 14, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
and all pre-season/training camp
they were all talking about how it was one of the hardest if the the clear-cut hardest training camp they had ever done. it will pay dividends down the line.
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a little more energy out of the second unit...
ie- if shawne williams was some sort of three point shooting defensive madman…. we’d be 10x more treacherous. he’s got the 3 point shooting down. but doesn’t strike me as a menace on defense.
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exactly
these are two huge IFs, but if Randolph had a brain and Azubuike had a healthy knee, the Lee trade would have been an incredible move.
they still might develop both
cant wait to see if azubuike can still play.
with randolph i think he will be seeing minutes by the end of the season. he’s young and d’antoni likes to bring some young players along slowly rather than force the action, like DWTDD last season (although if they are ready to contribute he puts them in – fields for example)
i still don’t think we’ve seen the sum total of this team yet
if i'm not mistaken
fields is older than both douglas and randolph… for what its worth
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He's younger than TD
but older than Gallo as well as Randolph
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
by The Rooster on Dec 15, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
fair enough
point guard has the biggest learning curve typically in the nba.
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Exactly
You know who noticed? Raymond Felton. He’s in better shape now, which has to be helping his game. Hopefully lesson learned for next year, I’d love for him to come out the gate like this!
by superturboultra on Dec 14, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
he was the last one (curry aside)
to report for camp, if i remember correctly.
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the career nights that big men have had against us
are mostly a product of amare getting ticky tack early bullshit foul calls against him. he plays the early and middle part of games extremely cautiously on defense, but as we’ve seen, once the 4th q rolls around, he steps it up with HUGE blocks.
by PJCarlisimo's Neck on Dec 14, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Yep that was
probably the first time in Wall’s life that he had someone chase him down and block his shot from behind. The look on his face was priceless afterwards. Someone should have screamed “WELCOME TO THE NBA!”
by Robert Currence on Dec 14, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
indeed
although also turiaf was out for a few games and is still working his way back in. he is crucial to the post d
the key
amare plays apparent vanilla defense b/c he knows he’s the go to guy. he knows he has to stay on the floor and doesn’t challenge shots like garnett. garnett knows allen rondo and pierce will save his candy ass. pair him with someone who will take the pressure off and you will see a defensive emergence in amar’e. im not talking marcus camby defensive player of the year, but just a big to pound EFFECTIVELY with the boguts and hibberts and perkins and bynums of the world

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