An Open Thread for Knicks-Heat Anticipation
by Seth on Dec 17, 2010 1:31 PM EST
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G'afternoon, gobstoppers. I'm about to hop in the car and head south so I can be home in time for Knicks-Heat. In the meantime, here's a thread for y'all to discuss the upcoming game. How do the Knicks match up? Which Knicks have a chance to shine? Who on the Heat are you especially worried about? Is it Juwan Howard?
Comment away, and since the Space Jam theme song didn't get us a win last time, belt some R. while you comment.
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I think the key here
would be Wil’s defense on Bosh.. Lebron and Wade will get theirs… as well as Ray and Amar’e, … considering the match-ups. But if Wil can shut down bosh, and denies his jumpers, i think we’ll have a good chance to walk away with the W.
Yo
I heard Bosh will be a game-time decision due to extra heavy flow.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Dec 17, 2010 1:45 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
no thats false
There are currently removing whatever solved the oil spill in the gulf to try in help the problem
JETS
by michael28102 on Dec 17, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Even if we play well,
I gotta say, I’ll be a little disappointed if we don’t take this game. I was hoping we’d either take down at least one of these teams.
Beat the Heat
Got to beat this team. Losing is unacceptable. Not with LeLiar coming into town. He never said he WAS coming to New York, but he certainly implied it over the better part of two years with statements like “If you guys want to go to sleep for 2 years and wake up on July 1, 2010 go ahead because it’s gonna be a big day.” Who does that? We need to beat this team and we need to beat them tonight. STAT should be too tough for skinny/weak Bosh to handle in the post, but obviously there are concerns with guarding LeBron and Wade. Maybe go to a zone and force Ilgauskas, Bosh, Arroyo, Chalmers and Jones to beat us. The big problem I see is that we are a team that likes to run and push the pace, and obviously LeBron and Wade are the best in the league at doing that.
Suns/Amare fan checking in.
Can’t wait to see the game tonight. The game Wednesday was spectacular. It reminded me of the instensity and excitement surrounding Phoenix basketball during stretches of the Nash/Amare run.
I haven’t gotten to watch Amare play that much this season (I was tempted to buy league pass, but with night school it’s just kind of tough) but I have been following his exploits. I picked him to win the scoring title before the season began, but to be quite honest, I still thought the Knicks would struggle to win more than about 43-45 games so I never really entertained the thought of him winning the MVP.
It appears the Knicks might have a chance to compete for home court advantage in the first round of the playoffs and the Knicks have a very solid starting five with Amare leading the way. I think the team may just be one player short of contending for a championship….
There has even been some mention in Phoenix (although not a popular opinion) that Nash may have held Amare back. I think that a system run by Nash promotes the path of least resistance. He tries to get everyone invloved. The difference for Amare this year is that he’s getting a few more attempts and opportunities. I think the Knicks got the exact same Amare the Suns had, he is just in a situation where he doesn’t have to share the spotlight and is proving that he can stand out on his own merits.
Amare was already great in Phoenix, it just took him going to New York for more people to realize it.
Good luck Amare. Good luck Knicks fans. I envy the enthusiasm and excitement your season is sure to bring. It has been long awaited. I will be happy when basketball in Phoenix returns to where your team is now, it is a very fun position to be in.
Never confuse activity with achievement.
from what I'm seeing of Amar'e
he was more then capable (obviously) of getting the easy buckets that Nash got him. I don’t think people can dispute that.
The things that I see is that Amar’e doesn’t need Nash as much as Nash needed Amar’e.
Amar’e can score on his own. I think its funny that people think his jumper will stop falling like it is…when he’s not doing anything out of the ordinary for him. He just didn’t get to show it with Nash.
Why should Phoenix give the ball to Amar’e at the top of the key and let him score from teh triple threat, when they have Steve Nash to get him the rock?
Amar’e is getting more exposure in NY instead of Phoenix. And he’s also doing things he could always do, but doing them more often. I’m not even sure that he has to do all this, but he just can..so why not.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Maturity
I think it also has a lot to do with maturity. Here in NYC, he’s been the leader he’s never been asked to be in PHX because nash is already there. While I agree that amar’e may have had the same skill set while he was in PHX, I think something has changed in him. I remember him complaining about defending opposing Cs, and not giving support to MDA in front of the media. But now (atleast for the first 26 games) he’s accepted the role as C (and playing great D might I add).
by JVGsDietCoke on Dec 17, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
I don't have much to say, just thanks Jim. Suns were always one of the most fun teams to watch in the last few years.
Hopefully your franchise can turn it around while Nash is still there for you guys. Having met Nash and seeing the kind of class act that he is, nothing (aside from a Knicks chip!) would make me happier than to see him and your dedicated fans win a championship. Good luck to you as well.
In Donnie we trust.
by $100M Contract on Dec 17, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
I'm a Knicks fan tonight.
If there’s one thing that can bring fans all NBA teams (not from Miami) together, it’s the incredible hatred from King Dbag and the Miami Heat.
Go Knicks!
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
Love it.
We’ve got a veritable United Nations of the NBA united against the Saddam Hussain that is Miami. (Without having to get anyone to lie about WMDs ;-)
We can win, or we can lose by 20
Depends on whether the Heat have a coherent offensive gameplan or not.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
we can win by 20 too
Most definitely
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
I think it's about time Anthony Randolph got his second chance
we need someone to help Amar’e and Turiaf down low…make it happen D’antoni. Shawne williams isn’t cutting it
In a stretch of games where the need for wins is even fiercer than that easier stretch we had earlier, I don't know how much burn we can expect to see from AR.
For all the people clamoring to Free Anthony Randolph, for every minute he was actually in the game at the start of the season his WTF AR:OMG AR! ratio in the comments was pretty staggering.
I think I’m gonna keep trusting D’antoni on this one.
yeah i know what you're saying
but we have a need, and I’m just saying that randolph can possibly fill that need. It’s been almost a month since AR has been on the court and you’ll never see his improvement if he doesn’t get a shot. You can’t just keep sending out williams and walker out there to just take up space and miss shots (i know williams started out strong but he hasn’t done much lately). D’antoni cut the rotation to practically 7 people on wednesday. This isn’t college, that’s not gonna cut it in the NBA.
Word. I get frustrated too, seeing him on the bench sometimes or how Dantoni can shorten that bench with the quickness.
But I don’t know what came first, their lack of productivity leading to benching, or the lack of minutes leading to less production. Going off of Dantoni’s history, once you start not producing, and you’re not a star that’s proven himself, he loses trust and lessens your role in the system.
Playing time is the royal jelly for any developing player, but it all starts in practice. It’s like when we were clamoring for Darko last year when our interior D sucked. What could it hurt?, we asked. Could it actually be worse?? Yes. Apparently it could have because although we didn’t know it, Darko dogged it in practice with a shitty attitude. If I’m the coach and I have a player like that, no matter how much of a need we might have I wouldn’t install that kind of unstable, unreliable guy as a pillar in my gameplan.
I’m not saying AR’s doing anything remotely similar to that. By all accounts he’s actually handling this the 100% right way, and he gets a lot of respect from me for that. Just saying that for all the people Dantoni’s benched, he’s usually turned out right, and I hope that we can see AR in the future with a confident smile on the court and leaving holes in peoples’ heads from tomahawk jams.
i too
would like to see AR get a lil burn. But this isnt the team we need extra post presence in. If anythying, this is a team where we go small like we’ve been doing.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
Can't wait for Gallo/Chandler to stick LeBron on a poster
Amar’e to get Bosh on a poster
Felton to get Wade on a poster
Donnie's bout to beat the NBA game like he got a cheat code
Wassup Knick Fans
how you splendid people doing? I’m sure riled up for this game; fuck the heat.
"I got my caveman club," -- THE BLACK MAMBA
How's my favorite Laker fan doing.
You see some of those Boston guys coming in after Wednesday night with a pat on the head? Do they go over to the Laker site and do that, too? Honestly there were only really one or two bad ones, everyone else was cool, but it was interesting that even after all the close games in the last two years, this is when some trolls come out.
I think they hear us coming.
what trolls do you speak of? they have bandwagon fans but can't even fill their own arena!!
Victory goes to the courageous!!
I go over the Laker site from time to time.
I usually starts out with best of intentions and ends up in hand grenades being thrown.
Always a good time though.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
the best time to be united no?
Victory goes to the courageous!!
Indeed.
They might’ve been a pain but at least the Nyets/Celts/etc. ones give a shit about their teams & the game.
I kinda like the Nets fans on SB Nation, in general
can’t say the same about the Celts fans
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
This hurts me, real deep.
I’m crying Green tears.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
WHo's here for some roasted dino?
Victory goes to the courageous!!
I got the bbq sauce!!
In Donnie we trust.
by $100M Contract on Dec 17, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Nope
The Knicks used to have some awesome Christmas Day games against the Bulls in the 90s. And a miracle win against the Celtics in 1985 on Christmas day.
I'm the fan formerly known as Serious Garbage Time
by Bernard King's Game Face on Dec 17, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Crazy game.
That many talk about as the turning point in the Celtics season that led to them steam rolling into the Championship. That one can only be called huge in hindsight though, no one gave it any thought before game time.
The hype surrounding this one has got to be at top-10 levels.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
curious
looking at the heat’s schedule during their 10 game winning streak, why isn’t it brought up that they only beat the jazz and hornets as “quality” opponents. the rest was the same crap we were beating. god i can’t wait for the knicks to make the playoffs so all the haters can burn with envy. i had a clown of a friend who had the gall to say amare is overpaid, even given his production this season. idiot.
New York ballplayers of any sort...
are expected to put up monstrous stats to justify their giant salaries. Other teams players are not seen that way. Why you ask? New York media, baby, killing our athletes since the Allan Houston contract.
In Donnie we trust.
by $100M Contract on Dec 17, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
For the past week I've been literally thousands of miles away from the Garden
In a land with no MSG channel no internet connection capable of sustaining a live feed, and no ability to be up at 5:00 AM to follow along. Missing the Denver and Boston games has been, like, actually physically painful. I’m starting to get the shakes here, I need some Knicks real bad.
Mostly, I need to come home soon to a Knicks team that has just curb-stomped Pat Riley’s band of ball-less muthafuckin’ South Bitch scallywag chumps. Teach these clowns the meaning of respect. Step on their necks, Knicks!
where have you been staying?
Victory goes to the courageous!!
you really are stuck on the desert man... i feel for ya
Victory goes to the courageous!!
Travel in the offseason!
I was quite literally looking out at the Serengeti when I got the news that the Knicks had drafted DWTDD
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
You must have some gold-plated data plan
I’m like, leaning out the window on one foot over here tryin’a get a little wi-fi action.
Free Randolph.
Nope
just a cell phone. You’re lucky in comparison
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
Isn't that where Turiaf was same time this year?
I'm the fan formerly known as Serious Garbage Time
by Bernard King's Game Face on Dec 17, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
No MSG?
How did the pharaohs watch the Knicks?
I'm the fan formerly known as Serious Garbage Time
by Bernard King's Game Face on Dec 17, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe MSG was disabled in Egypt
because the pharoahs were jealous of Clyde’s wardrobe.
I'm the fan formerly known as Serious Garbage Time
by Bernard King's Game Face on Dec 17, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was wondering at the severe lack of floss around here lately.
The past couple years missing a few games wouldn’t be so bad, but man of all the weeks in this young season to have to miss so far..
Come home soon, flossy!
I know, right?! I picked a terrible time to vacation
Back on Sunday though.
Free Randolph.
Haha is it crazy that I'm looking forward to not being on vacation anymore
… so that I can watch Knicks games live?
Free Randolph.
if this was a year or two ago yes. but now no
Victory goes to the courageous!!
Hopefully there's a really good crowd at the Garden tonight
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Knicks come out a little flat after the Celtics game, and I also wouldn’t be surprised if Knicks fans were priced out of seats and the Garden is full of tourists and suits..
Starting of New Winning Streak
Stoudemire will make a bitch out of Bosh.
Raymond IRS Felton will go off tonight against the rest of this team of clowns.
“Go New York Go”
yeah i was thinking why relate felton to tax?
Victory goes to the courageous!!
Rec'd.
for the record, I hate the nickname “IRS”
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
i'm not crazy about it either
but that’s because every time I get a letter from them(IRS) i get a sick apprehensive feeling. So maybe it’s not so bad from that pov?
The Landryman Can
I like it.
Why haven’t I heard that before…
“Man call him the IRS, cause he always makes you pay.”
Beautiful.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
OK, so this is big
Inpart, because ESPN Europe have got their arses together and are showing the game live (they had Mavs-Portland the other night) in glorious HD so I don’t have to rely on ILP.
I even tried to persuade my gf (the one who actually accidentally got me into the Knicks but barely has any interest in sports outside of the FIFA World Cup) to watch as it’s such a big game – ’it’s got LeBron & squeaky shoes’ – but she’s still hungover from last night’s office party. She seemed to think that recording it & watching in the morning would be a reasonable alternative to staying up until 2.30am to watch it live. Like I say, she’s not really into sports.
Kinda worried that any booing will motivate James, along with his usual MSG blow up. Kinda looking forward to the Knicks offensivizing them to death. We’re deeper than they are and Amar’e is a man who can lead as well as ball.
Game on…
I just hope the Heat bring their A game
and we still beat them.. none of that off-night-7-22FG-11TO b.s. I wanna see LBJ and Wade go off, and still lose.
i'd take any win at all like a lebron career threatening injury like penny's or something
Victory goes to the courageous!!
Two things I want
Ronny to have a monster block…
Amar’e to massively posterize…
…any of the 3 Weenies. Or better still, all of ’em
This is an even bigger game than the Celts game
The Celtics are a great team playing very well right now, but let’s face it, they’re going to be retooling in a pretty major way in the next few years. The Heat, on the other hand, the Knicks are going to be battling LeBron, Bosh, and Wade for the next 5 years.
It’s kind of like the battle between the big stars and the lunch pail teamwork less glamourous guys. Just the way I want it, really. The question is, can team work and intangibles and Amare’s infectious swagger carry the day against LeBron and his taking his talents to south beach to party on stage with his friends Wade and Bosh as they cruise to their supposed multiple championships?
This will be the question that gets answered over the next few years and this is the opening salvo. It’s very similar to our past rivalry with the Bulls because of Jordan and all his hype. Can Starks the grocery checker shut Mr. Glamourous Dunker up? The Heat is more like the Bulls of old and the Bulls are more like the Heat of old – but regardless, we’re going to be slogging it out with these guys for the next few years… and it would be nice to start off with a win tonight.
Let’s get it on. I have faith in our guys. What a feeling!
Wow.
I swear I was just randomly listening to I Believe I Can Fly 10 minutes, lol.
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable, the other half is close to the Cliff, like Mrs. Huxtable
by King Henry the 2nd on Dec 17, 2010 6:05 PM EST reply actions
10 minute ago*
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable, the other half is close to the Cliff, like Mrs. Huxtable
by King Henry the 2nd on Dec 17, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Heat SBNATION
You guys seen the comments (all 9 of them) on the game thread for the Heat? Talking smack about amar’e ‘s not a team player and that’s why he’s called STAT.
That just cracked me up.
he's a team player man... one of the best big men... sure he don''t pass like pau but he does make everyone around him better
Victory goes to the courageous!!
Yeah the intelligence level of "Heat fans" isn't sky-high
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
more important the enthusiasm level isn't sky high either
I saw an espn talking head show where even the Miami correspondent admitted that fans tend to drift in well into the first quarter and later and that there are still plenty of empty seats.
The Landryman Can
here's the worst part... they even have to say it in their broadcasts that they show up early and stay late
that’s sad
Victory goes to the courageous!!
nothing but hard core wagoning there.
Most of the fanposts are from a Knicks fan in the middle of last year, a Lakers fan during the playoffs and now a Heat/Wade “fan” for his entire life
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
wait is there a game tonight
i was just planning on taking an all-night footbath…i guess i should follow this one
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
"Anyway, you should check out the movie "Black and White," which actually stars Allan Houston. It’s not a comedy, but rather a really serious and emotional movie." - Wilson Chandler
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 17, 2010 6:10 PM EST reply actions
yep pretty much... it's the LeCon spectacle
Victory goes to the courageous!!
I'm thinking that our swingmen will make or break us tonight
Whatever we get from Gallo, Fields, and Chandler will go a long way in determining the outcome. While we can’t expect them to slow down Wade and Lebron, if our 2’s and 3’s are cutting to the basket and hitting outside shots, the game could really open up for us tonight.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
"Anyway, you should check out the movie "Black and White," which actually stars Allan Houston. It’s not a comedy, but rather a really serious and emotional movie." - Wilson Chandler
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 17, 2010 6:15 PM EST reply actions
Probably won't be spending the game here at P&T.
Ya’ll have a good time tonight.
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 17, 2010 6:27 PM EST reply actions
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