Heat 113, Knicks 91: "Someone please take the lid off."
Erik Spoelstra's Heat (No, not "HEAT". Never "HEAT") made a conscious effort to stop Amar'e Stoudemire in tonight's game. They brought help on nearly every Amar'e isolation play and pick and roll, and challenged the Knicks to find the open man and connect from the perimeter. In the first half, Danilo Gallinari and friends cashed in on at that challenge, shooting themselves out of an early 13-point hole to tie the game at halftime. In the second half, the shots stopped falling and the Heat took over. As mrumack said in the game thread, it was like there was a lid on the rim.
Take the jump for my game notes.
- In the first half, this looked like it'd be every bit as enthralling as Knicks-Celtics. The Garden was buzzing. A Jonas brother was in attendance. Walt Frazier said he had "chillbumps"*. Both teams sprinted to start, and the pace was almost comically fast in the early going. (Naturally, this was another night in which one of Clyde's keys to the game was to "make it wild".) The Knicks pushed indiscriminately and got ahead in transition for some wide open looks and spectacular finishes. Danilo Gallinari, sporting some hair gel for the occasion, led the way from outside and in, finishing with 21 points in the half. Toward the end of the first quarter, LeBron James almost single-handedly blew the game open by drilling long twos and feeding open shooters, but a spirited run in the mid-second brought the Knicks back into it.
- *Not goosebumps. Goosebumps are for geese. Chillbumps are for chillbros.
- The undisputed highlight of the aforementioned run:
THAT is a dunk, and I don't think he traveled, either. Hell of a touch pass by Landry Fields, too.
- Those long twos by LeBron James were downright deadly this evening. Something about the MSG atmosphere hones James's outside stroke, and he was ripping nets over pretty commendable Knick defense. Clyde suggested that the Knicks double James, but I don't think that would have made much difference, especially considering his ability to fire laser-passes over multiple defenders. More dogged ball denial might have helped, but then he'd just beat the Knicks backdoor and get easy looks going to the rim. When James is on fire like that, it's best to just stand your ground, get a hand up, and pray. Peeing on him may or may not help.
- After Gallo and company shot the Knicks into first half contention, things fell apart by Chinua Achebe in the second half. Perhaps frustrated with their first half ineffectiveness, Felton and Stoudemire reallllly forced the action to open the third quarter. The pick-and-roll was in mid-November form, with three or four defenders collapsing to stop the roll, but the co-captains desperately trying to make something happen anyway. Amar'e took some positively unseemly attempts, Felton couldn't find his own shot, and neither could get a foul call. Both had done a stellar job of passing out of traps in the first half, but they couldn't find open shooters later on. Miami probably stepped up their rotations as well, and the Knicks shot just 1-4 from downtown in the third period while Amar'e and Felton repeatedly ran into dead ends.
- Often, that dead end was Joel Anthony. Joel "Dead End" Anthony has a nice ring to it, and I think the nickname captures both Joel's defensive prowess and his...um..."look".
- One thing that the Heat help defenders realized is that Stoudemire doesn't do a great job of protecting the ball when he gathers near the rim. On more than one occasion, Amar'e was stripped while launching for a dunk, realizing in mid-air that he'd departed sans ball. That's kind of like the dominant NBA big man version of the familiar "in front of a crowd while pantless" nightmare.
- It should be noted that Raymond Felton's hand (I don't remember which hand, so we'll go with "reft") was heavily wrapped after his hard fall at the end of Wednesday's game. That doesn't explain some of his poor decision-making, but it might serve as a partial excuse for his 3-12 shooting.
- I'm back home for Christmas break, which means I'm watching games (or at least the early parts of games) with my mom. Her contributions for the evening: 1. Zydrunas Ilgauskas looks like "that evil Ralph Fiennes character from the Harry Potter movies" and 2. Landry Fields has good posture. Agreed on both counts.
- A bumbling attempt at halftime to tally up the Big Three's combined point totals leads me to believe that mental arithmetic is not Al Trautwig's strong suit. It's cool. You can't have an incredibly soothing voice AND number-crunching skillz. That wouldn't be fair.
- I'm sure this has been said before, but the Miami center platoon of Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Joel Anthony, Jamaal Magloire and Erick Dampier would make an excellent law firm and/or morning talk show. That's also a deceptively Canadian foursome, in that Jamaal and Joel are both from Canada, Zydrunas is rather pale, and Erick loves Barenaked Ladies.
- 13-23 from the free throw line. That won't work.
- Amar'e Stoudemire was mic'd up for the evening's festivities, and proved to be a D'Antoni disciple in that all he ever did was clap his hands and shout "LET'S GO! LET'S GO! LET'S GO!".
- The Heat ran a lot of baseline screens for Chris Bosh, and he'd make quick little cuts to the rim for easy catches and point-blank buckets. On more than one occasion, he'd even add a foul when Wilson Chandler was overzealous recovering from the screen. Do the Knicks run plays like that for Amar'e? I can't remember seeing much of that, but I'm also really oblivious all the time.
- The Knick bench has devolved into nothingness. Toney Douglas is the lone serious contributor, and he continues to frighten us with the ball in his hands (although, to be fair, he was 3-6 with no turnovers tonight). Ronny Turiaf is no longer effective (somebody made the good point that Ronny looked a lot better when Felton and Stoudemire weren't yet clicking), neither Shawne Williams nor Bill Walker is filling the role of bench gunner, and Timofey Mozgov has been relegated to garbage minutes. Watching the first unit curl up and die in the third quarter, I became particularly worried about the short rotation.
- Mario Chalmers = "Mario CHARM-ers". <3 Clyde. Oddly enough, I don't remember him saying "Barsh".
- Update: Forgot to include this, but Miami has kind of a habit of turning it on in the second half.
That'll be it. The Heat are better than the Knicks right now, especially when LeBron James is afire and New York punts an entire half. These teams meet again after Christmas, and I expect a better match-up in Miami.
In the meantime, the Knicks will have to rebound from this one immediately. They head to Cleveland tomorrow, where they'll have one of their few opportunities to win against a sub-.500 team over the next couple of weeks. That could be a shot to get back on track or an evil, evil trap game.
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"things fell apart by Chinua Achebe"
I can’t explain to you what that reference just did to me. Pause Never!
This is why I love being a knicks fan
Knicks fans have a special something….tremendous amount of wit i suppose…but yes seth, the “things fall apart” reference had me LOLing this morning. You are the man of mans….not men….but mans….
by Flying_Saucer on Dec 18, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
things fell apart by Chinua Achebe
OMG yes! I cracked up, slipped off my chair at that. Who says that education was a waste of money?
by PolyphonicSpreewell on Dec 18, 2010 3:16 AM EST reply actions
+1 for keeping us edu-macated, Seth :)
Fantastic writeup…albeit one describing on a tragedy.
"...also I'll brush my teeth and remember to turn off the stars at night and put the hyena out." ERNEST HEMINGWAY
african novels ftw...
definitely laughed after reading the reference
"If it ain't broke, don't break it." -Charles Oakley
I Missed Game and My DVR F'd Up
I want to watch replay of game. ANyone know a site that has the full game film?
If I can make it there, I'll make it anywhere...It's up to you, New York, New York!!!!
We need to gut this team and bring in Melo and Cp3 now!
now that that’s out of the way…
So we had an off game. Attribute it to the Heat defense, or Knicks cold shooting. Whatevers, it’s one loss. Learn from it and move on. I really enjoyed the second quarter and the “over-rated” Bosh chants. Chandler is starting to get so many highlights I’m taking em for granted, or maybe I’m just a Chandler Stan.
Starks > Jordan
please don't lose to Cleveland......please
"I'm going to say something plain and simple - I will take getting dunked on every single game for the rest of the year if we can get the win."
- Ronny Turiaf #14
by total hermination on Dec 18, 2010 8:24 AM EST reply actions
LET’S
GO
CAVS
Ah, Cleveland and Seattle. Two major cities locked in an eternal epic struggle to determine who's more tortured in sports. Due to the WNBA Champion Seattle Storm, Cleveland is starting to get the upper hand.
I have too much sympathy for your plight to try to shout you down.
Good luck
and if we lose, I’m going to be pissed off
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
cleveland game BIGGEST of year...
were we just ridin’ a high, or are we legit playoff contenders? if we come out and beat them handily, confidence for the rest of the year will be high… no let down allowed.
but a damn good 10 quarters… up until the 2nd half.
i love gallo in big moments against big names… it’s the other moments he could use some work
If we beat every current sub-.500 on our schedule for the rest of the season we get 30 wins
we are on our way to the playoffs!
Absolutely agree on Felton and Amar'e forcing the issue in the 2nd half
I think this is where you hear about how someone like Steve Nash is so great. He’d orchestrate with Amar’e having an off night instead of trying to get Amare going. He’d see Gallo doing work and basically use him as the focal point until they stopped it, which they really didn’t.
also agree on them adjusting. The Heat are a team that can run with us and once you match our style, then with James hitting all his shots that’s really it.
Pringles seems to really figure shit out for the 2nd go around when we play other teams.
I can’t wait for Act too. But I guess that ain’t sayin nothing new.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
it was RayFeltMeUp's left hand that was taped...
Scooby Doo says reft
by blackhova on Dec 18, 2010 9:46 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Things fall apart-fucking hilarious
I’m so glad I missed the entire second half because I was getting belligerently drunk at my office holiday party. But i’m not surprised by this game, the heat have found their identity, and they are the best team in the league. We just need to destroy the cavs tonight to prove that we are in the better half of the conference
@therealzlander
by zlander on Dec 18, 2010 10:07 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Terrible
I really don’t understand how someone can be so bad at things anyone who plays basketball should know. He was out of position on D often, and on offense played like a 2 guard standing at the corner three waiting for a pass
Donnie's bout to beat the NBA game like he got a cheat code
He's so clueless that I'm starting to worry that he's hopeless
then again, maybe someday it all just starts to click…
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
James
LeBron’s a great player, but I think if he pulled out a knife and stabbed someone in front of the refs they’d call a foul on the victim.
It was a Tale of Two Halves
That 1st half was the Knicks as we expect them to be. 2nd half simply reiterated that we aren’t there yet. Much like Gallinari in a way. He shows it for a quarter or two, but he’s young and as he grows, hopefully he can maintain for an entire game.
I’m only let down because I watched the whole game and I could see the downward spiral of the Knicks as it was happening. I don’t even know who to blame. The Heat get credit because they stepped up their D and just gave the ball to the Super Fiends. When things aren’t working for the Knicks… they give it to Amar’e and expect him to create momentum with seismic dunks and confident jumpers. It just so happened that on this night… they gave it to Amar’e and stood still.
I don’t remember who it was… maybe JVG or Mark Jackson even, but they made a very acute observation. They said the Knicks rely on their offense to win games. They need that offense to work. If it isn’t working, they don’t have another way to win the game. Miami can win with offense, but if the offense isn’t working, they can still win with their defense. That’s simply how they are built as a team.
I didn’t take it as a knock on the Knicks so much as a measure of where we are in terms of WINNING and not just competing. Clearly we aren’t at the elite level… which is fine by me right now.
Chris Sheridan (read- fairweather fraud) quickly wrote a column about this but in a much meaner way. His tone is mostly like we talked ourselves up and got cocky so we deserved to get thrown around like a bean bag. He seemed to generate this POV from Knick fans believing we can “compete with any team.” I greatly disagree with that sentiment.
I don’t think many of us put the Knicks at the elite level at all. But us believing we can compete with any team doesn’t mean we think we are better than any team either. The Knicks absofuckinglutely can compete with ANY team. Boston wasn’t a fluke, and though we got hammered by Miami, we saw from the 1st half that we can definitely compete. But we haven’t been unrealistic about how goo this Knicks team is, so honestly, I am not very discouraged by last night at all.
We got a good barometer of where we are last night and Wednesday. 2 elite teams, 2 losses… we should have beaten 1 and we ran out of gas on the other. Who’s next? Take our temperature again at the All-Star break. We’ll be better each month.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 18, 2010 10:23 AM EST reply actions
I don’t think many of us put the Knicks at the elite level at all. But us believing we can compete with any team doesn’t mean we think we are better than any team either. The Knicks absofuckinglutely can compete with ANY team. Boston wasn’t a fluke, and though we got hammered by Miami, we saw from the 1st half that we can definitely compete. But we haven’t been unrealistic about how goo this Knicks team is, so honestly, I am not very discouraged by last night at all.
Agreed.
by GangGrizzle on Dec 18, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Sheridan's article
I really don’t recall anybody making the claims that Sheridan alleged. Struck me as setting up the Knick fan as a straw man.
Sheridan is a hack who rides emotional currents, then tries to drive them to a polar extreme
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
by The Rooster on Dec 18, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah i knew that already, but it still bothered me anyways! Damn you Sheridan!
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 18, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Miami isn't a team
They are a bunch of sellout jerks who wear the same uniform
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
dont discount the Nugs
We got a good barometer of where we are last night and Wednesday. 2 elite teams, 2 losses… we should have beaten 1 and we ran out of gas on the other.
3 very good teams. 1 win 2 losses.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
3 indeed... though i dont really put Denver in "elite" company....
But beating them should not be discounted at all, you are right.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 18, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
D'antoine MUST ENCOURAGE DEFENSE
I saw this during the entire game. Our defense needs ALOT of work. When will pringles learn that the you have to have defense just in case the offense doesn’t click (like last night.)
Miami got alot of point blank shots last night and I almost destroyed my room cuz of it. We made the heat look better than they were in the second half. If its one thing I hate about last night….it’s the fact that we didn’t ramp up our D.
With the pieces we have, last night’s offensive comma will happen again…and we have to get stops to counteract that.
and one more thing
when i see toney douglas on the floor…i wanna smack him in the back of the head. He kills the offensive chemistry…
by Flying_Saucer on Dec 18, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not going to worry much about our defense being picked apart by two of the best wing players of this era
We forced Lebron to take mostly contested long jump shots.. and he made them. Shit happens.
Yeah, our gameplan and execution were good
Superior talent succumbed, but LeBron was also more efficient than usual, and you can argue that the refs called less than usual.
We’re not THAT much worse than them, now it’s time to take the next step, one way or another.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
Yeah, we ran outta steam and they couldn't miss
But that 1st half was just a whole lotta fun to watch. But it’s a learning experience. If the team doesn’t learn from this, then I worry. Plus we’re pretty banged up right now. The bench definately needs to start “evolving” and make the most of the minutes they get – play smart basketball. It is pretty clear MDA does not trust his bench right now, and the hurt it’s putting on this team showed up in the 2nd half.
what scheme was that? switch regardless of how ridiculous the match-up it creates?
Consistently rotate late and slowly close out on open shooter?
If that’s what you mean by a gameplan and execution, how can you say it was good?
Our defense was garbage. Its been garbage all season. And it will always be garbage. I can accept that as a fact of life with MDA. But don’t insult my intelligence and tell me it was not only good, but also well-conceived and properly executed. That’s like pissin in somebodies face and callin it lemonade.
by Crackback on Dec 18, 2010 4:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
relax the problems on defense are simple
Our players are really young and still learning how to play defense. When you shoot a low percentage you give up transition buckets and when the heat can get out in transition they will score on you. Fatigue. It was clear that our guys were tired and looked a step slow in rotation all night. But actually when we could get the heat to go against our set defense we did not do poorly.
by Robert Currence on Dec 18, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
it is simple. it simply sucks.
And it always has and always will under MDA. So there’s no use getting upset about. Good team defense is a culture. Good defensive teams live,breathe, eat and shit defense all day every day. They drill it constantly. MDA don’t roll like that. We’ll never have a good defensive. The hope is to get uber-athletic players that can make plays individually. But we’ll never have a good scheme.
by Crackback on Dec 18, 2010 4:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not worried about the lack of defense.
I am SOMEWHAT worried about the lack of backbone. There were some moment there where the team seemed despondently willing to give Wade a clear path to the basket. I’d like someone to put a body on him and knock him down every now and then.
But no team is going to stop Miami’s offense. I actually thought we did a decent job in encouraging LBJ to take those terrible long 2s, but he hit them. Nothing you can do about that. We were never going to beat them by stopping them. The only way we were going to win was if we outgunned them.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
That bench needs to start
puttin in some work, I mean really we literally cannot sit anybody down we’ve become a 5 man team hopefully Azubuike can get healthy and play decent for us and Turiaf or Mozzy can just do something for about 10-15 mins a night and find a backup PG. Im okay with the loss as long as we put in effort we were just outplayed by superior talent.
Melo!?!?
People say that the #Knicks should wait for #Melo in the offseason, but he is huge in NY and could become the basketball Jeter. I love Gallo btw, he is a big time player. Do you guys think he is so valuable that the Knicks should wait for Melo?
This isn't Twitter bud
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
A few things...
Hashtags?
I’m not a Yankee fan, but I see 0 similarities between Jeter and Melo
I’m not even sure what your question is asking, but… I don’t think we should include Gallo in a trade for Melo. I’m growing less convinced by the day that acquiring Melo at all is a good idea.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
Yeah. Im hoping the Jeter rep was more for name recognition
Gallo is actually a closer comparison (if there is the be one, which there is not) in that he’s only played for one NY team his whole career.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 18, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
I think he's more valuable if you wait
if you trade for him it makes building the team more arduous of a task.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
"Peeing on him may or may not help"
Thank you for making me laugh
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
"Dead End" Anthony also made me laugh. This has to become a thing.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
I really need to collect all of my thoughts into one post, but anyway
One thing that the Heat help defenders realized is that Stoudemire doesn’t do a great job of protecting the ball when he gathers near the rim.
Absolutely correct. And that’s something I hope Pringles has him working on.
And I noticed Al’s failure to tally up the scoring too. It’s OK dude, math ain’t all that!
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
We can do it. Come on, Cavs.
The losing streak has to end at some point…right? Or are the Knicks better than the Bulls?
Ah, Cleveland and Seattle. Two major cities locked in an eternal epic struggle to determine who's more tortured in sports. Due to the WNBA Champion Seattle Storm, Cleveland is starting to get the upper hand.
Nitpicking
“things fall apart” is a Yates poem that Achebe referenced.
Again, nitpicking.
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