Postgame Thread: Knicks 116, Raptors 99
Another day, another solid road win over a mediocre team. Amar'e Stoudemire and Shawne Williams (the E is for efficiency!) dominated the fourth quarter to stifle a Raptor comeback.
Recap later!
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Great game, Knicks! And great commenting today also, posters.
Seth, please make “poopin’ from the corner” the headline.
They will be for!
by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 5, 2010 3:25 PM EST reply actions
KNICKS WIN AGAIN!!!!
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Still wondering how we'll hang with the .500+ teams in the 3rd Q
but I’m still purring at what we’re doing now.
We’ve turned both Raptors games into Ws from Ls last season and are now 5 games up on last season. Projecting 49 wins…
Great fun in the comments, we win in the afternoon, and life is pretty damn sweet.
EST +5 hours is hard work sometimes...
This game is a strong condemnation of Toronto's nightlife
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
I actually happen to like the toronto stripper scene
it brings a damning sense of self awareness and magic to my life
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Dec 5, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
toronto stripper scene
is the one of the best in the world.
ahhh… drunken memories at the brass rail.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
haven't checked that one out in TO
but there is a fantastic Brass Rail in NJ…bergen line w.new york, no strippers but plenty of…how should I say this…willing young women.
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Dec 5, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
You don't know sadness
Until you’ve hung out with some Baltimore strippers. Yeesh.
Venice, Illinois.
Best bullet scars this side of the Mississippi.
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 5, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
Three words:
Lorraine County, Ohio.
Okay, four more words:
“More scars than teeth”
yikes!
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Dec 5, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
Knicks are 5th in the East!
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable, the other half is close to the Cliff, like Mrs. Huxtable
by King Henry the 2nd on Dec 5, 2010 3:28 PM EST reply actions
nah
Knicks have the 5th best record, but are only the 5th seed.
According to ESPN
http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/group/2
we are 6th but ESPN put chicago at 4th with a worse win percentage than atlanta and ny.
Division leaders automatically gets fourth seed or better regardless of record
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
We're playing .900 basketball for the last 9 games
@therealzlander
by zlander on Dec 5, 2010 3:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Got there in the end ;-)
Best 10 game numbers in the NBA (along with the mavs)
EST +5 hours is hard work sometimes...
Donnie should pull an old Pacer out of retirement/obscurity every season
What’s Austin Croshere up to these days?
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
or maybe
he could convince haywood workman to become the first player-referee-player in NBA history
by PJCarlisimo's Neck on Dec 5, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
I would be interestes in seeing how that works out....any ideas?
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Dec 5, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
on second thought
maybe just slip him some $ on the low to help us out with a few phantom calls in our games that he refs. it’s strange how the pacers are contributing to our Knick renaissance. They gave us Donnie, now Shawne. Keep your friends close, and enemies closer, I guess
by PJCarlisimo's Neck on Dec 5, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
check out Hollinger's playoff odds
The Monte Carlo simulation he runs is actually pretty good: Knicks rate a 75% probability of making playoffs and more importantly, 0.3% odds of being in the lottery.
Warms the cockles of my heart, this does!
i'm not a mathematician
but if we have a 75% chance of making the playoffs, then wouldn’t it follow that we would have a 25% chance of being in the lottery? i’m not a big hollinger fan at all, probably because i’m not smart enough to understand him
by PJCarlisimo's Neck on Dec 5, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Knicks look good
I love watching the games on the away feed on league pass. Hearing the opposing teams commentators just gush over Landry Fields’ play and Amare’s leadership feels good man.
Time to start saving up for playoff tickets…. :)
by knicks4life on Dec 5, 2010 3:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
In particular I don't approve
of his haircut, or the fact that his first name is Peter but he chooses to go by Kelly
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
didn't think my respect for him could plummet
but apparently it has.
/// aighttho.com \/// twitter.com/aighttho \
or his hair
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Dec 5, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
speaking of which...
I think Jarrrryid Bayless is developing a mean case of male pattern baldness
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Dec 5, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
i strongly dislike jaryyd bayless
not totally sure why, but i kinda get the same vibe from him that i get from devin harris. like they act and carry themselves like they’re far better players than they actually are. but i guess the onset of baldness @ age 22 can make someone ornery. still, fuck him and harris
by PJCarlisimo's Neck on Dec 5, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
haha
I like ur style PJ
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Dec 5, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Tripucka
translates to Russian as Threefarts. Just saying…
by YIK on Dec 5, 2010 3:52 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Hahaha.
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 5, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
shit. i wake up at 3:30 in the afternoon...
casually check out p&t and it turns out the knicks played a game. and i missed it.
dayum.
And it was a pretty awesome one
Not to rub it in or anything.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
Boom
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Dec 5, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yo
is your handle a reference to the German folk/polka-ish singer? Serious question.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Dec 5, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
you'd have to ask him but I'm guessing it's a reference to the Roots song
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
Oops
I meant to ask that guy Heino Vanderjuice…
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Dec 6, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
Happy Birthday Eddy!
Your gift is free liposuction and an injection of speed.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
Another double double for Fields
15pts 10rebs. With 6 he is second among all rookies to pseudo-rookie Blake Griffin.
The Landryman can
Solid win
However I’m not a fan of “Invisible Danilo”, just 6 pts on 7 shots.
but he didnt force anything.
which is positive. made the extra pass a few times as well. he’ll have his opportunities to dominate, today just wasnt one of them.
by PJCarlisimo's Neck on Dec 5, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed
Gallo contributes in so many ways even when he’s not scoring. He spaces the floor on offense, makes good passes, and gives good effort on defense. And ideally, he never loses confidence in his shot, so when he does get a good look, he makes the most of it
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
STAT
I think it’s pretty safe to say, the pre-season caparison’s to him and D-Lee, were more because of us watching him grow-up into an All-Star with our Knicks….it’s not even close.
Let's Go Knicks, NY Giants, NY Mets & NY Rangers.
Yeah
Lee’s a nice player, and box scores will lead you to believe it’s closer than it really is, but Amare is one of the best offensive bigs of the last 20 years
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
16 rebounds today
and he straight dominated…..STAT all day….honestly u keep this up we might have some mvp discussions…
by hopelessknickfan on Dec 5, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Not just the offense
He’s a HUGE upgrade over D-Lee defensively, which is funny since all the talk used to be about how bad Amare was defensively.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
eh
I wouldn’t say he’s great on D…his athletic ability masks a few of his defensive lapses, it’s really not a coincidence that every forward we play posts career numbers
Amir Johnson does wat like 20 &17? not taking anything away from him cuz he’s kinda good but I mean cmon.
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Dec 5, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't say he was that great on D
but you don’t have to be to be a huge upgrade over D Lee
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
Its funny when there's still a straggler or 2 that still try and complain about LEe being as good and cheaper.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I remember the recent ESPN analyst argument du jour
was that we fucked up by not finding a way to keep both of them.
Yeah, that’s your Worldwide Leader in Sports for you
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
funny thing is
i never heard anyone on espn say a word about dlee when he was here, yet when he leaves, suddenly he’s STAT’s equal. ludicrous
by PJCarlisimo's Neck on Dec 5, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Amare was also great in Phoenix
but as soon as he left he was flawed and needed Nash to succeed
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
yep.
espn is a lot like my Lakers fan cousin. no matter what the knicks do, he’ll find something wrong with it, even in the face of all rationality
by PJCarlisimo's Neck on Dec 5, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't think it was a horrible idea to keep both
but never that we missed a great opportunity by not signing both.
Tho really the only thing missing is the 3 players we got being either injured a lot or not in the rotation.
Could really use Bookie and Turiaf.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
We got two great role players and a great young talent/cheap trade chip
That’s a really nice haul. And obviously, keeping Lee means getting Melo while bringing in Felton is basically impossible.
(BUT MELO IS GOING TO THE BULLS OR NETS1)
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
I'd be a straggler
don’t have any regrets over the off season but It was always my contention that there was more than one way to build a contender. I preferred to keep Lee and strengthen our Center or PG position.
We got our PG and STAT worked out so I got no complaints but essentially it’s a similar argument with the Carmelo thing
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Dec 5, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
missed the game
but from lookin at the recap and boxscore it looks like we played a solid game. 17 pt win over the raptors sounds about right, lets keep it rolling GO KNICKS
This has been a great sports weekend for me.
England are spanking the Aussies in the cricket, Coventry City win their 3rd straight to stay in the playoff positions, Knicks take both their games and now the Chargers seem intent on gifting the Raiders a W.
The end times are upon us brothers (and sisters.)
EST +5 hours is hard work sometimes...
Coventry City eh?
Much respect to Championship fans.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
It was forced upon us!
We used to be the fourth longest serving Premiership team…maybe we’ll be back before too long. That and a Knicks playoff run would be heavenly. In fact I’m wondering if I could handle it…
EST +5 hours is hard work sometimes...
Good luck to ya
I’m not sure how closely I would follow Tottenham if they fell to the Championship… though that would be partly out of my control since it’s pretty impossible to watch non-Premiership teams here in NYC, aside from the Carling/FA Cups…
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
And the Rams are winning!
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 5, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
its so awesome to watch them play good ball.
Its been so long.
by Crackback on Dec 5, 2010 4:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Amare
Let’s face it, Amare is really the first consistent “go to” guy the Knicks have had in about a decade. Marbury sure as hell wasn’t. Lee wasn’t. If there was anyone after Ewing …… maybe Houston or Latrelle?
In any event, Stoudemaire steps up big night in and night out. I’d take him over Bosh any day and believe the Knicks can continue to build around him. I like this team and think we’re going to see them continue to improve during the year.
yea
I’d say Houston and Latrelle were pretty dependable
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Dec 5, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Spree
was a pretty dependable go to guy. If you gave him the ball, he’d make something happen. But still, you’re right – it’s been 10 years.
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
spree and houston were the closest
but i didn’t have the level of confidence that i do with amar’e.
/// aighttho.com \/// twitter.com/aighttho \
i'm still appalled by anyone
who thought bosh was in any way valuable.
/// aighttho.com \\/// twitter.com/aighttho \\
yuck
barsh does not deserve any superstar acclaim whatsoever
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Dec 5, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
sort of sad that those "big 3" in Miami thought he was the correct third for them.
Amar’e has basically everything that team needs in a big dude. Oh well..fuck them.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Amare's our most dominant since Ewing
Houston and Spree were dope, but Amare is another level. A true go-to guy.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Dec 5, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
I think they actually said 94-95
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
3200 BC
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 5, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Logjam
Gallinari, Fields, Chandler, Randolph, Williams, Walker, Azubuike.
That’s a lot of players that more or less play the same position. I bet some of you can come of with creative trade ideas.
by heino vanderjuice on Dec 5, 2010 5:17 PM EST reply actions
How about Fields starts at the 2
Gallo at the 3, Chandler either starts or comes off teh bench at the 4, Williams comes off the bench as a 2. Walker gets nothing cuz Williams is taking his role (for now) and Azubuike is insurance.
Or basically exactly what they’re doing.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I have no problem with that, but I really can’t see how azubuike comes into this rotation. Does he take Douglas’ minutes? Plus, all of them have very valuable contracts. Maybe we can flip one for a first round pick (obviously not Gallinari, Fields or Chandler). I think it’s worth pondering.
by heino vanderjuice on Dec 5, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
I think they can add Azu to any trade given his contract is expiring
and worth the millions.
He may never work his way in the rotation, so yea..he might be one to trade.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
yea
I’m pretty happy with a trade embargo untess some other team doesn’t mind getting screwed to make us better while handing over 1st rds at the same time
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Dec 5, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Buike will take Shawne's PT eventually
and make a dent into Chandler’s, assuming he recovers well.
He’s very good.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
also, keep in mind the melo situation, and the fact that buike and williams are unrestricted at the end of the year and chandler is restricted. Next year, fields expires, and gallo becomes restricted. I think all those guys are outperforming their contracts. how many of these guys can we possibly re-up on?
by heino vanderjuice on Dec 5, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
should they so happen to get Carmelo
when they have to re-up Gallo et. al, they’ll be able to go over the cap to do so since they own their rights.
Chandler’s probably the biggest decision they’ll have to make regarding whether to re-sign him.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
He's a RFA
which makes it quite easy to either keep him or move him wherever we want.
Or, we tender him and delay the decision by a year
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
I think the deadline to tender him already passed
in the offseason they either sign him or some team poison pills him with a contract like Wes Matthews.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Nah, the extension deadline passed
Teams tender RFAs once they hit the market, like we did with Lee and Nate last year.
Matthews wasn’t poison pilled, he was just given more money than the Jazz wanted to pay. You can’t poison pill in the NBA since contracts are fully guaranteed anyways
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
Matthews was the definition of a poison pill
the NBA definition, not the NFL.
That’s true on Nate and Lee, but both did not have to sign those deals. They understood the situation the Knicks were in and that if they played well (like Lee), postponing another year could help them out more then what they’d get on the market that year (Lee was 4/40..he was correct. Nate wasn’t).
Plus, it was sort of doing them dirty.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Well that's the default situation for all RFAs
Their only other options were to 1) sign one-year tenders for less money or 2) hold out and get nothing in hopes of getting an extension (like Varejao did for a few months a couple years ago)
but Utah did have the option to re-sign Matthews using their MLE, and they chose not to. It was just another team paying him more than Utah wanted to pay him – so it was a poison pill in the same way that us signing Amare was a poison pill
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
that had the option to match the contract (not exceed)
but it was too much. Poison pill. Not like Amar’e who we did not have the ability to offer as much as Phoenix.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
How is that a poison pill?
It’s standard procedure for RFAs.
“Poison pill” = inclusion of clauses that make a contract more lucrative to the original team than to the offering team, such as money becoming guaranteed if a player plays five home games in the state where his original team resides.
Matthews deal was just a standard contract offer.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
"The NBA's version"
making an offer to an RFA that the owning team cannot match.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Except that the Jazz COULD match it
but chose not to.
So, not a poison pill.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
The closest thing to an NBA poison pill
was the lack of Bird rights for second rounders who hadn’t accrued three years before hitting restricted free agency, like Arenas signing with the Wizards (Golden State could not match) but I believe that loophole has been closed.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
So, where does Fields stand? Will he be restricted or unrestricted?
by heino vanderjuice on Dec 5, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Restricted
and I think we’ll hold full Bird rights
then again we’ll be using a new CBA when his contract expires
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
on deals exceeding the MLE, that is
and Matthews did not exceed the MLE
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
they COULD match
but chose not to since it was entirely too much money for a player not worth it.
So, poison pill.
Piss contest over.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
You're using the term incorrectly
making it subjective (it’s a “poison pill” if the player “isn’t worth it”) which confuses the fuck out of people who use the term correctly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shareholder_rights_plan#Sports
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
you're using the NFL's definition for it.
It doesn’t exist in the NBA, so top trying to use it interchangeably like its the same thing.
I know its not and what I was calling it. W/e, have the piss contest.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
You already said this
“The NBA’s version: making an offer to an RFA that the owning team cannot match.”
come on, dude, admitting you’re wrong is not the end of the world.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
Chandler would probably look at Matthews deal and command that
I think it was 5/38.
Who knows if that’s true, but he definitely could ask for that. Which probably means Wilson will be traded
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
"We still need to get better, but we’re doing a pretty good job," said Amar’e Stoudemire
YES
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
looking for a low cost backup PG with an expiring contract
unfortunately the Times is generally behind them with regards to sports…damn near every team in the league would like that and rarely is there a team with a surplus of quality guards.
We’ll see tho. If Shawne Williams is legit in this role he’s in, I’d trade Walker for a backup PG any day of the week.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I would...
but he’s basically all they got in Cleveland. Would they?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
so ACTUALLY
mo has a team option for next year, and a player option the following year, which i assume is voided in the event that the team elects not to re-sogn him.
/// aighttho.com \/// twitter.com/aighttho \
or wait... i might have my colors wrong...
i’m color blind
you tell me: http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/cavaliers.jsp
/// aighttho.com \/// twitter.com/aighttho \
Nope, you're correct
mistake was on my end.
Still don’t see the Cavs trading their gulp leading scorer for Walker and Curry’s expiring
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
yea i mean.... they might not want to
but mo talked about retiring when lebron left… i bet he asked for a trade at some point. perhaps when he came to his senses?
/// aighttho.com \/// twitter.com/aighttho \
According to hoophype, there is no team option.
by heino vanderjuice on Dec 5, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
interesting
we’ll have to ask one of the five Cavs fans who care about anything other than LeBron
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
mo is getting paid circa 9 mil up till 2012/13. That’s far too much for a backup.
by heino vanderjuice on Dec 5, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
Probably wouldn't give him up, he's the best player they have.
Booby Gibson?
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 5, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
TJ Ford is a possibility
because the Pacers have Price, and Ford is expiring. Maybe they’d want to kick Bully’s tires
Ford is nothing special, but he’s fast and I’ve always liked him going back to his Texas days
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
but that deal would have to include Curry
meaning it would go down at the deadline if and only if Denver decides to keep Melo for the season
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
Nah, we could do it now if Ford is an expiring
As long as whoever we get back stays an expiring contract.
Ford's an expiring
but he makes enough money that Curry is our only usable trade chip.
The Walker/Mason combination doesn’t work (we’d take back too much money) and we’d have to package Safari and Buike or something in order to get Ford.
Curry/Walker for Ford/Foster (both expiring) works.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
he's MIL's backup PG and they have a ton of forwards already
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
Don't they have boykins too?
To tell you the truth, i really don’t know what’s going on in milwaukee.
by heino vanderjuice on Dec 5, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but Boykins is third-string
and isn’t playing as much as Dooling
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
probably not a popular idea
but what about telfair?
I wouldn't mind Bassy.
Maybe coming home to NY would put his mind in check and be a good motivator.
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 5, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
Walker and Mason for Bassy works
and because it’s KAAAHHHNNN maybe we get a pick out of them
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
That's not a bad trade, with the pick thrown in.
Considering Mase’s an expiring (am I right about this? It feels accurate but I could just be pulling it out of my ass).
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Dec 5, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Mason's also completely useless.
Minnesota has far too many guards on their team. Then again, it is David Kahn.
by heino vanderjuice on Dec 5, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Mason is an expiring
Minnesota would probably just cut him – it’s strictly to make the numbers work.
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
I wouldn't mind
but he might have marbury kooties
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Dec 5, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
wow
that was quick, but not surprising…don’t think it’s any fault of Bill’s tho
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Dec 5, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
definitely not.
but its more of Williams seizing the opportunity. At worst Williams can do what Walker do, so now they have a surplus of SF/SG that shoot the 3.
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Not sure that this is a logjam
First of all, it’s a bit of a stretch to say that guys like Randolph and Azubuike play the same position. Second of all, it’s only a logjam if all of those guys command minutes. Randolph, Williams, and Walker really don’t. They’re nice to have around, but they can sit on the bench and fill in when we have injuries. I suspect that when everyone is healthy, you see an 8 man rotation pretty much like today’s, but with Turiaf taking Mozgov’s minutes (+ a few extra) and Azubuike taking Williams’. So it’d be something more or less like this:
Felton – 38 mins
Fields – 36
Gallo – 36
Amare – 38
Turiaf – 18
Chandler – 36
Azubuike – 18
Douglas – 20
Walker and Williams can fill in when necessary (for injuries, and for Fields here and there so his minutes don’t get so high that he hits the rookie wall), and Randolph can continue trying to learn how to control himself in garbage time and in practice.
I’m perfectly OK with Douglas as the backup 1, so if we trade an extra swingman, I’d rather get a more legit backup 4, so Chandler/Gallo can potentially play 4 less and 2/3 more.
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If he looked good
I’d give him a few of douglas’ minutes. He could also steal minutes from Chandler at the two as well…of course this is provided he’s healthy and looks good
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Dec 5, 2010 5:29 PM EST reply actions
hmm
srry…must hav forgot to hit reply
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Dec 5, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
there are a few guards in philly that may be available right? barring holiday that is
Victory goes to the courageous!!
None of whom are particularly better than Toney at spotting the open man.
by heino vanderjuice on Dec 5, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
no
Lou Williams is a scoring guard like DWTDD
everyone else besides Jrue is a wing
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Azubuike
Im not sure were being realistic about how much he can contribute this year. His injury and rehab has taken more than a year, usually its the season after the return that a player gets back his skills. It would be a miracle if he could beat out the guys ahead of him, Healthy he can ball.

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