The Jackie Butler All Stars! (aka The Knicks' Scrubs Hall of Fame)
After ShawnEEEEE's outstanding performance, I wanted to go back in Knick history and delve into random Knicks who played pretty well, but due to our homerism, sent us into a collective 'OMGZ, _____ is awesomessszzz!!!' Of course, I named this squad after one of the best examples of this phenomenon, hence the name, The Jackie Butler All Stars!
Seeing as how I've only really followed the Knicks after puberty, I'll only be really covering players after the 96-97 season (year of the infamous 'John Wallace Draft', the first draft I remember watching).
**I started this entry w/o realizing there was a scrubdown list already. Seeing as how I spent nearly an hour on this already, I'm not gonna delete it, but hope this serves as a complement to the award winning Scrubdown series.**
Starting Five:
Jackie Butler
I want to do justice to Jackie Butler in this quick synopsis, but I know I won't. He's beloved by every Knicks fan that I know of and mere mention of his name brings a smile a single tear drop to Knicks fans' faces. He garnered the underrated label from practically everyone, from Hollinger to Knickerblogger, even facebook, where he only has 20 members in his fan club.
Jackie could never do any wrong and when he was signed away to the Spurs, Knicks fans all over the world were in outrage. We were all pretty sure with another year, he'd bring home the title to the Knicks, but instead, he brought the Spurs the 2006-2007 title, destroying Lebron in the process.
Like only the greatest of men, he quit while he was on top, never playing another game past the 2006-2007 season, but he will forever be known as the team captian of the 'Jackie Bulter All Star' team.
Frank Williams
Ahh Frank Williams. This is my personal favorite player of the Jackie Butler all stars. He was in the Nene+Camby for Mcdyess trade and for my money, the key in the trade. I think part of my reasoning came from this ESPN article by the immortal Raphy Wiley. Frank even played well, garnering 18 and 6 ast, 14 and 4 and 18 and 18 and 5 in three consecutive games. Wait, aren't we looking for a back up PG? Where's Franky's #?? Get him here! Frank Williams FOREVERRZZ!
John Wallace
After tearing through the NCAA tourney, we were (or at least me) salivating at getting a home-state kid. Falling all the way to the 18th pick, none of us really thought, 'hey, I wonder why John Wallace dropped to the 18th pick'. Instead, we all thought, 'JOHN WALLACE?! HOW DID WE GET HIM?!!? LOLZZ'
And John Wallace certainly started out well, scoring 10, 14, 12, 11, and 16. After that? He had 3 double digit scoring nights for the rest of the year. From what I can gather by typing in 'John Wallace playing time' in google, seems like he had some work ethic issues (Tim Thomas anyone?). Also, he was allegedly friends with Derrick Coleman, which allegedly plumetted his draft stock. Apparently being friends with DC is just as damaging to your rep as being lazy, taking drugs, or committing sexual crimes; so uh, don't be friends with Derrick Coleman.
Or as he's called now, that fat guy. Ironically, he was traded for our resident albatross fat guy, Eddy Curry. Doubly ironic, his nickname is 'Sweets' according to the infallible Shamsports.
Inhis one and only season with the Knicks, he managed a crazy 17.2 PER during his rookie year. All we wanted him to get was playing time, and he got some toward the end of the season, showcasing his talents to the tune of a 15 and 9 and 16 and 12 in April of 2004. We were all certainly impressed and looked forward to his sophomore campaign. Two trades and 6000 donuts later, I think he's playing in Korea.
I remember him going crazy (i.e. scoring double digits in 5 straight games) and wondering why he never got more playing time. Apperantly, I wasn't the only one. This guy even compared him to Spree and thought he had a bright future as well. He also has 156 members to the 'Official Lee Nailon Fan Club'.
Bench
The man knew how to cheer from the bench. Any and all 15th men in the league should watch game tape of him hyping up plays and going crazy after decent plays. I googled 'Rick Brunson Cheering' and the 5th link was from our very own P&T's Anthony Mason's Haircut. Click on link to find out more about the best bench warmer to ever suit it up.
I'm feeling lazy so here are a couple more sans links and great description:
Qyntel Woods
Already a Scrubdownparticipant as well.
Lavar Postell
St. John's product who I thought was gonna be Spree 2.0. More like the prequel to Demtri Nichols.
Random center signing. He tried his best to emulate Jackie Butler, but didn't have the name or game to overtake Jackie's starting spot.
Moochie Norris
Simply cause of the hair.
As soon as I read 'Spanish Chocolate' in his NBADraft.net profile, I knew I wanted him to be a Knick. I even youtubed him every 4 weeks to see if any new highlights came up. Then, when he finally became a Knick, I realized his highlight reel was similar to a trailer of a terrible comedy movie: all the good bits are in the trailer.
Johnathan 'Legs' Bender
We freakin have a shirt named after him!
NBA Rights Held: Milos Vujanic
I will forever believe that he was going to be our savior, although I hadn't actually seen him play. Both me and my friend were both sad that we had to give up the #1 international prospect for Marbury. He would never don an NBA uniform. MILOS4LYF!
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Yes!
I’m winning the poll!
Never forget Othellllaaaaaaaaaa Harring-ton!!
I thought about Othella
But I lumped him in the ‘Layden overpaid acquisitions’ All Star, including Shandon Anderson, Howard Eisley and Clarence Weatherspoon
WTF..
Where is Rolando Backmon. He shot terrible for the Knicks after a hall of fame career in Dallas. Where is Kenny Skywalker, who could only jump high but was horrible. Where is Kiki Vandeweigh or whatever it’s spelled?!
I HATE
defending Isiah…but Sweetney was Layden’s pick, not Zeke’s….same year I think Lampe (yuck) was drafted
Your right
Credited and edited. That was Layden’s last year of terror.
sorry frankie's taking this...
Victory goes to the courageous!!
and man he can't be called cause he's doing time man
Victory goes to the courageous!!
yup, didn't he get caught for armed robbery or something??
That dude was filthy at Illinois. I thought he was gonna be in a Deron Williams mold (before Deron Williams). Oops.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 8, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
weed man caught for unlicensed weed...
Victory goes to the courageous!!
Matt Barnes is pissed he isnt on the list
and you are now on his list. not a good place to be.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
Add him to the Trevor Ariza All Stars
Players who got immediately better after we traded him. Although, the notion that I’m on any list involving Matt Barnes made me ‘poop in the corner’.
Ariza was great when we had him, too
just had no opportunity to find his offensive game, considering who his, er, “teammates” were
WHY ISIAH WHYYYYYY
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
So hard to choose
I loved Frank too, but I had to choose Lavor!!! He scored 20 points once in an end of the season meaningless showcase! I think.
Also, I think Sweetney could, and still can, play. I think that coaches and GM’s just can’t see past his high body fat. I seriously think that if you put Sweetney on the Knicks right now and gave him 10-15 minutes a night, he’d score some points and get a bunch of rebounds. If a guy can play, why does it matter if he’s fat? Oy, the injustice of it all.
are you speaking literally or figuratively?
GM’s just can’t see past his high body fat.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 8, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
and we currently have a bigger sweetney in eddie right?
Victory goes to the courageous!!
If there were a NBA Jam: Knicks Scrubs edition
I’m taking Postell and Nailon, with Longley on the bench
/winner
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
Luc!
I’d go with Frankie & Milos Vujanic (Chad Ford loved him!). I keep Brunson on the bench to hype/turbo my players up.
Vujanic/Lampe would be intriguing
and what the hell, put Weis on the bench. They never played in the NBA, so how do you know they’re not superstars like various draft analysts speculated they’d be? Flawless logic!
"I feel like this: You can't hate me." -Toney Douglas
I'd definately put Slavko over Weis
French ppl make me uneasy.
I really actually thought that John Wallace would become a star.
I sometimes reflect back on this state of mind, and it prevents me from thinking to highly of myself.
They will be for!
by StarksMiddleFinger on Dec 7, 2010 3:42 PM EST reply actions
I thought we had an awesome draft class that year
Got Wallace, Walter McCarty, and Dontae Jones.
I thought Wallace would be a good NBA player if he got consistent minutes. We got these moderate big men who could sort of shoot! Damn it all!
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 8, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
does anyone remember the commercials or ads by john wallace for karl kani?
man that takes me way back…
Victory goes to the courageous!!
HEY LETS NOT JUMP THE GUN
until shawne williams proves himself to be a fluke, i say we refrain from labeling him as one…as far as your poll went..i vote john wallace, bcuz i had his jersey for some odd reason
@therealzlander
Dude you left out a bunch of Cats who should not only be on that team they would start!
Erick Strickland
Pete Mickeal
Jerrod Mustaf
Monty Williams
Kenny Walker
Do washed up former stars count?
If so, the backup PF duo of Terry Cummings and Buck Williams was spectacular in ’98.
Vin Baker????
He actually was an All-Star at one point…. wow, thats a fall…
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Dec 9, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Penny was a 4 time all star starter and had his own nike shoes... and yes baker was like a 2 time or so all star
Victory goes to the courageous!!
Travis Knight..Brian Quinnet,Felton Spencer,James Donaldson and Anthony Roberson.
Now this is a Scrub City DJ….Come on ride the train…and ride it ….Chooo….Choooo =)
brickowski!! or however you spell his name
Victory goes to the courageous!!

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