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Thunder 121, Knicks 118 (OT)

Win or lose, that was a lot of fun. It was a truly surreal experience to see three brand new Knicks have such an effect on what was nearly a rousing win over a very good Thunder team. I couldn't help but spend most of the night laughing at the strangeness of it all. Watching Tracy McGrady get isolated and go to work, nodding my head as the lightning-quick Sergio Rodriguez broke down the defense, and cheering aloud for Eddie House were all way down the list of "things I expect to do during a Knicks game this season". We saw plenty of the same old issues, but there was a sense of excitement in the MSG crowd palpable even through the television. The rest of this season might not amount to much, but it will certainly be interesting.

After the jump, some quick thoughts on a trio of debuts and the Knicks' overall performance.

Star-divide

- Tracy McGrady is a step slow. Let's get that out of the way. His strides are long and deliberate, and he isn't exactly exploding off the floor. Nobody expected that, though, and McGrady impressed in pretty much every other regard. I've never liked his release- all the flailing and kicking makes it look so effortful- but Tracy was cash from pretty much every range tonight. McGrady didn't rely on the jumper, though. He got past his man with shrewd footwork and some strength, and made some great drives to the basket. Many of those ended in acrobatic makes and fouls (sometimes both), and on a number of plays he found the open man. The passing, really, was my favorite part. He finished with 5 assists, the best of which was a halfcourt bounce pass with backspin to a breaking Al Harrington

One thing's for certain: McGrady is going to handle the rock quite a bit when he's on the floor. He's got no interest in the catch-and-shoot, and will probably dribble the occasional possession into the ground. Still, Tracy proved from the outset that he's still very capable of creating his own shot, and will give up the ball when he sees fit. Essentially, Tracy McGrady is Al Harrington's self-image.

Anyway, 26, 5, and 4 for McGrady. 10-17 shooting from the floor, 5-7 at the line. He played 32 of the game's 53 minutes, so as not to push his legs too hard in his first night. Superb game from Tracy.

- I love Sergio Rodriguez. I knew I would but, well...I do. The Kings and Blazers fans that prepped us for the Rodriguez experience were on the money. He's fast as hell, but not in that notorious "only one speed" way. Sergio changes pace brilliantly, with the ability to stop on a dime and a truly sweet high-low dribble. He's also a goddamn wizard on the drive, as he showed with a handful of absolutely electric dimes off the dribble. There are issues, of course. Rodriguez's own offense (2-8) was erratic as advertised, but he created some nice looks and didn't take any egregious attempts. Sergio also gambled a bit on defense, but it paid off on more than one occasion. All told, it's a breath of fresh air to watch a point guard beat his man off the dribble and wreak havoc from the painted area. Sergio Rodriguez probably played the worst of the three newcomers, but he's still the one that excited me the most.

- I don't have the words to describe how utterly preposterous it felt to be rooting for Eddie House. This is a guy who I came to despise in Boston, so pounding my fist when he nailed ridiculous pull-up threes was surreal. House's game has always really aggravated me, but when he's on your team? It's pretty fucking hilarious and quite a bit of fun. House finished with 24 points on 8-14 shooting and 4 three-pointers, and made me belly-laugh on literally every make.

- House also set some really nice picks and grabbed a few boards and loose balls. Just saying.

- The Knick defense on Kevin Durant was, for the most part, really superb. Danilo Gallinari, in particular, did a fantastic job getting a hand in KD's face and chasing him off the ball. The only possession I noticed in which the Knicks truly botched their Durant-fense was on the last Thunder possession of regulation, when nobody came close to contesting his game-tying three. That said, Durant is not a mortal like the rest of us, and could care less about a good close-out or a hand in the face. With or without a Knick crowding him, Durant hit the big jumpers. Sometimes, you just have to tip your hat. Still, amidst a quiet offensive outing, Gallinari's defense deserves recognition.

- The Knicks' post defense sorely misses Jared Jeffries, and will continue to do so. David Lee actually looked better than usual contesting shots, but had nobody to help him on the glass, and the Knicks repeatedly got punished on second efforts.

- On the other hand, the Thunder play such good pressure defense. It's astounding.

- Legs got to spin and, perhaps inspired by McGrady's debut, looked pretty fresh. I can't say enough, though, about how bizarre it is to see a Knick lineup featuring a curly, sort of thick Tracy McGrady, a Spanish speedster with Jason Statham's hairline, and Jonathan Bender. It's just insane. I haven't even mentioned that Thabo Sefolosha got poked in the eye on one play, so for half the game, there was also a black Swiss guy wearing Rec Specs on the floor.

- Speaking of which, Clyde's mispronounced name of the night is "Sefamaloafa".

- Also from Clyde, after David Lee lost his footing on a drive: "Lee hit a wet spot while penetrating". Like I said in the game thread, if that doesn't make you giggle, we simply don't see eye-to-eye.

- Wilson Chandler had a quick stretch in the third quarter in which he was converting some beautiful scoop finishes, but he struggled for the most part. Silent Wil was rushing some of his late-game attempts, for whatever reason, and botched more than one lay-in that usually wouldn't be a problem.

- The Rodriguez/House tandem is captivating. Recklessness for days.

- Sergio quickly learned that Al Harrington is where gorgeous passes go to die.

- The Knicks' late-game play-calling and execution was, as usual, baffling. The tie-breaking attempt at the end of regulation was a Gallinari fade-away 28 footer. Down 1 at the end of the OT, the play was an all-too-quick contested runner by Wilson Chandler (on which he was probably fouled, but still...). As I've said before, this is equal parts poor planning and more execution. Instead of harping on that, though, I'll turn to a pretty nifty playcall towards the end of regulation. Before the cold-blooded Durant tied things up, the Knicks had the ball coming out of a time-out up 1 with 32 seconds remaining. Instead of working the ball around, D'Antoni had it inbounded to House, who instantly canned a jumper, thus engaging the rare and wonderful fourth quarter 2-for-1. The Knicks were thereby guaranteed a game-winning possession, though we all know how that went.

- As I mentioned before, McGrady rested his knee for large stretches of the fourth quarter and overtime, even in the face of "WE WANT T-MAC!" chants. This was probably a wise move. McGrady really got a warm reception from the Garden faithful, though. Those kids got rowdy.

- Hey you with the #23 customized "King James" jersey. Yes, you. Not a good look, fella.

- Somebody needs to explain to me what "Banana Shpeel" is.

- Nick Collison has always looked to me like he could be in Gorillaz. And by that I mean he looks like a fuzzy cartoon person.

I ought to get away from my computer before the night runs out, so that'll be all for now. We'll have more to talk about (and, if things go to plan, a new friend!) tomorrow. I'm very disappointed that it didn't end in a victory, but if tonight was any indication, we've got a weird, wonderful 28 games ahead of us.

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Sergio Rodriguez could have 10 assists

but Al Harrington cost him at least 4. As you said, Al Harrington is where gorgeous passes go to die.

by YIK on Feb 21, 2010 12:17 AM EST reply actions  

argh!

great analysis, im only upset i dont have the nba package!, i live in detroit so i only got clips of the game through highlights, I’m a T-mac fan first so i packed my bags and moved from thedreamshake, to postingandtoasting, i wish i couldve heard the chants, based on just this game, i think if NY had this team at the beginning of the season…they would be a problem

by mcgadget on Feb 21, 2010 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

Watching the recap now

I don’t think McGrady’s debut could have gone any better, honestly. He was humble, looked to pass first, got to the line well, got the crowd in the game.

And House hustled his ass off – I’m really amazed that his level of intensity is the same on contending Boston as it is on our Knicks.

I can’t even be too upset about losing to the Thunder. It’s kind of like “it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy”. This team is what the league should be like, young stars with relatively moderate contracts who play together, have fun and have their city so firmly behind them, I’m really looking forward to them come playoff time – you have to imagine Durant’s going to put on a show, I can see them hustling to the second round against a run down Spurs team or a caught by surprise Mavs/Nuggets team.

Anyway, just my thoughts. Looking forward to Monday for once.

by Stargazey on Feb 21, 2010 1:16 AM EST reply actions  

Can't root for the Thunder

They’re good kids and all but they should still be the SuperSonics

by DoctorK16 on Feb 21, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

This is wrong

Seattle cared. The problem was the lease agreement on Key arena. When the new owner (what’s his name…Clay Bennett?) bought the team he was hellbent on moving it no matter what, because the old agreement made it virtually impossible to run a profitable business of the team, and the local gov’t wouldn’t build them a new arena, since it’s pretty much insane for cities to devote their resources to new stadiums that don’t actually bring the city income (ahem, Brooklyn Nets).

by gbnypat on Feb 21, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

there's a movie about this

you can watch it online………

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by stingy d on Feb 21, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Seattle Cared plenty about that

judging by their A) ticket sales and B)tv-ratings. The problem was the city government didn’t want to give out massive corporate welfare to the team twice in a 10 year period. Key was rebuilt in the mid-90s and the ownership then wanted a new arena 10 years later. Plus Bennett had no interest and keeping them there. The whole process was an affront to decency IMO.

by DoctorK16 on Feb 22, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Gallo

There is something amiss here. I just can’t figure it out. A player with Gallo’s shooting ability takes just 6 shots, including 2 game ending rushed out-of-position shots in a game that went to overtime – that means he took just 4 shots in the game. Why? Even newcomer Sergio Rodriguez took 8 shots. How can this even happen? I give up. I just don’t understand….

But it really was a refreshing game. What a difference a star player makes. And a PG who can penetrate. How I wish this had happened in early Jan after we opened the year with 3 consecutive wins. If Jefferies were still here with all these new players, I am sure he would have made life a little more difficult to Westbrook tonight. That could have been the difference tonight.

by skot on Feb 21, 2010 1:36 AM EST reply actions  

gallo

 has been injure on his shooting hand for about a month now… sad to see his shooting skills diminish b/c that is the majority of his game so far.. but its also great to see him pick up his defensive play by menacing KD for most of the game..

by semsemma on Feb 21, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Gallo

I am OK if he misses, but at least take 10-12 shots a game. I think it is a combination of him not being aggressive enough looking for his own shot, him being unselfish, his teammates not looking for him enough and the coaches not running enough plays for him. This needs to be corrected. The coach has to make sure he takes a lot more shots and that he is more involved in the offense, however reluctant Gallo may be.

by skot on Feb 21, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

if we start pushing the tempo

gallo will get hisshots up. d’antoni seems to run sets more than plays. all the parts are interchangeable. if we start playing a more open style. there will be more looks. for everybody.

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by stingy d on Feb 21, 2010 11:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

dantoni is definately calling plays for him

Look @ all the games we lost in the last 10 secs, dantoni forced him the ball, to put up a horrible last second shot

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by zlander on Feb 21, 2010 3:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Lets not blame everybody else..

for Gallo’s problems. He’ll have to work through them like you said, ..with more coaching. He doesn’t have the experience to play the way we want him to yet. If he were better at creating his own shot, we wouldn’t be upset about how many shots he’s taking. he need to take more shots, but more.. better shots. Right now his shot selection is poor because everybody knows he can shoot, but he can’t create hs own shot. The kid is only in his second year.

by gaga71 on Feb 21, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

i think he’s also worn out…its gonna take him a couple seasons to be able to keep up for the whole 82.

by tz88 on Feb 21, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

yea...

this is rookie wall time for most guys… and last year was not really a full year for the kid.

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by stingy d on Feb 21, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

All that said

His defense last night was stellar. So he’s still contributing, even through the wall.

Do we think he winds up filling out and become a 4 (Dirk style) or slimming down to play the 3?

by gbnypat on Feb 21, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

thats a good question

he is really in between. i don’t know if i would ever count on him to get in there and mix it up for 10 boards a game. but it isn’t out of the realm of possibility either. i think next year he comes back with a little more of a driving game, and possibly a post up move or two. let’s take it from there.

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by stingy d on Feb 21, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Dirk vs. Gallo

Their numbers are strikingly similar (Dirk’s second year, 17.2 and 6.5 in ~36 minutes, Gallo’s at 14.2 5.2 in ~32 minutes). What separates them is Dirk’s high post game. It would do Gallo wonders to develop a couple high post moves and to really nail a 17 foot jumper. Gallo’s 3% is significantly higher than Dirk’s, but Dirk’s FG% is way beyond Gallo’s.

i think he has the toughness to get boards if he fills out a little more, and if he can become the weapon in the high post (or along the baseline) that Dirk is, it won’t matter much that his speed doesn’t allow for great separation.

by gbnypat on Feb 21, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Gallo has a good nose for boards

And that can be good for a 4 or a 3. He definitely has a lot to learn in terms of a midrange game, and moving without the ball. But he displays a good sense of how to play basketball overall. I like what I see and I think he’ll be a good player and I wouldn’t be surprised if he develops a more varied offensive game and more confidence in the clutch.

by fuhry on Feb 21, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i can't rmember where i read it

but some guy made a formular for comparing different players, and gallo was totally different from dirk… he was also strikingly similar to rashard lewis
if gallo becomes as good as detlef schrempf, that would be great. 20 pts, 10 rbs, 6 ass. if im not mistaken

by thePharcyde on Feb 21, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

the garden was electric tonight

if we got mcgrady 2 months back…we wouldve been a playoff team easily…..sergio is crazy fast, and fun to watch (reminds me of a super fast jason williams)……duhon should soon take over marbury’s old seat on the bench, and we need serg needs to be a part of knick long term plans….thanks to posting and toasting for the tix (the tmobile suite is sweet!)

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by zlander on Feb 21, 2010 1:47 AM EST reply actions  

i'm not surprised tmac did this well.

i think you guys are a playoff team with adding him, Rodriguez, and house. good luck the rest of the season with tmac.

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by Rockets 4 Life on Feb 21, 2010 1:59 AM EST reply actions  

maybe so.

you know, I really can’t wait to see David Lee get an actual center..or maybe another PF like him who can help him on the glass.

I know..they had Z-Bo, and for real..he’s insane, but with Z-Bo and Lee as the Knicks frontcourt?

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 21, 2010 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

they need a haywood type in the offseason…guy who doesnt need offensive touches, boards and blocks some shots, not to mention has a little nasty streak now.

by mleetch352 on Feb 21, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Could be. From the couple times I’ve seen some NBA mocks, seems that its a pretty deep draft.

Dunno if they can buy their way into round one again, but I’d like to do that.

Varnado is good for many reasons of course.

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 21, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Camby

Assuming he’ll sign for a little and the other FA pieces come together. He’s a better fit than Haywood in the style they play.

by gbnypat on Feb 21, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Would love to have him back

but he is a bit long in the tooth.

by fuhry on Feb 21, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The missing link that got away.

David Lee had an actual center the coach never play him , his name is : DARKO MILICIC

by nickyb4898 on Feb 22, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

their really small now

for sure with no Hill and Jefferies. That’s going to have to be addressed.

by DoctorK16 on Feb 21, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

wow, what a game! this team is going to be fun for the last few months of the season. t-mac looked a lot better than i expected, rodriguez was definitely fun (how cool is it to have a pg who can actually play?) and eddie house had ice water running through his veins.

also, it’s been said before, but how good is oklahoma going to be? durrant is unbelievable but the pieces they’ve put around him look really, really good.

by patrickm23 on Feb 21, 2010 4:56 AM EST reply actions  

Great Game to watch

But to much KD at the end of OT did us in.All 3 new players really impressed me.Garden was rocking last night should be even louder for Legends Night on Monday.Can’t wait to see what T-Mac does

I Believe in 2010

by Jadden Hopkins on Feb 21, 2010 7:31 AM EST reply actions  

So this is what it's like to have an elite player...

even an elite player on the decline is special to watch. This game got me excited to see what life can be like with some young elite talent. I am in love with t-mac already, i ducktaped over all my marbury 3 jerseys and wrote mcgrady. I am pleased.

by Turbofire on Feb 21, 2010 9:30 AM EST reply actions  

how many

marbury jerseys do you have?

by enron4515 on Feb 21, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

well

you need a casual one, a formal one, one to sleep in, one to play ball in, one that’s waterproof, one that’s fire-proof, one for beekeeping, one for paintball, and handful of little ones for your future kids.

at least.

by Seth on Feb 21, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

You forgot

One that’s bulletproof, one for fly-fishing, and several you fashion into a parachute (this requires even more than you’d think, given all the little holes in the jerseys)

by gbnypat on Feb 21, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

last night even after they lost all i could think about was how much better we are with a decent point guard and a few reliable options on offense

not once did i even think about the loss of jordan hill or our draft picks. ive grown to hate trades that send away young talent. with the exception of renaldo balkman every other youngin weve traded in the past few years has been doing well. hopefully jordan hill doesnt haunt me.

by karamjitm9090 on Feb 21, 2010 9:54 AM EST reply actions  

Fantastic Game

It describes the state of affairs of a team, when even in loss I am all smiles. Despite McGrady dominating the ball everytime he has it, he still made things happen and for the most part I can actually trust a player with the ball.

This might be the Sergio Rodriguez trade in the end. That guy was beautiful, having the defense collapse on him, and ridiculously finding the open man to spot up his jumper. And from what I noticed, unlike Duhon or Robinson, it wasn’t to the player with the closet proximity. Rodriguez really, and quickly finds a player who he thinks has the best chance to make the play.

And Eddie House scares the hell out of me. He has a high basketball IQ, and without the ball he directed his teammates with a an air of gusto that was admirable and believable. But once he gets the ball in his hands, the guy freaks the hell out. He chucks it up immediately, leaning no less no matter where on the floor he may be. But unlike Jared Jeffries, at least theres a 50-50 chance it’ll go in.

by nconstantino on Feb 21, 2010 9:56 AM EST reply actions  

Sergio

Let’s hope he makes D’Antoni forget about Steve Nash

GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!

by tanman5 on Feb 21, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Boohon

can he do anything? i cried for his exocommunication in a recent post and not nates…

by TO. on Feb 21, 2010 10:00 AM EST reply actions  

I was gonna post in the GDT yesterday, but I saw the 1,000+ posts and got scared off.

Of course T-Mac went off last night. That was an awesome game, of course. But I can’t help but worry that he’s going to play himself into a long-term contract, and then play about 20 games in the next five years. Anyone who roots for MSG sports teams should be very familiar with this fact pattern.

Also, it still bugs me to see new Knicks get to wear #3. I know there is no way in hell that it should be retired or off limits, but it is in the special place inside my head that I go to when I’m sad.

Rangers, Royals, Raiders, Knicks...the man loves a winner.

by self loather on Feb 21, 2010 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

EDDIE HOUSE

Nobody has mentioned his passing. I agree with everything said, I used to hate the guy and can’t believe how hard I rooted for him tonight. But, I thought I knew all he could do. And yet, there were more than one very nifty passes he made last night that caught me by surprise. Not necessarily fancy or highlight, just on the money smart passes to the right place at the right time. That, more anything, impressed me.

by Adam NYC on Feb 21, 2010 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

What really struck me about the game

It was amazing to see the intensity and confidence that McGrady and House brought… Especially House, who is a role player but he just knows what he can do and does it fearlessly, coming from an elite NBA team, you could just see him showing the other guys how to do it. Take notes, Toney – this can become something TDD.

And Rodriguez impressed – he has special skills and I think all he needs is an extended chance to get comfortable. I think D’antoni will live with his mistakes more than he lives with Nate’s because Spanish Gravy does Nashy things out there. He obviously needs time to work with Lee on the pick and roll but you saw the space created – they have to get used to each other but when they do I think that shit’s going to work nice.

We saw a bit of Sergio, Housefire, and McGrady running the show out there, and all looked promising in different ways. We may not see too much of Duhon the rest of the way.

by fuhry on Feb 21, 2010 2:24 PM EST reply actions  

Hey...

Spanache? Rhymes with panache and Nash?

by fuhry on Feb 21, 2010 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

Kings fan here.

I love Sergio. But when the hell are they gonna let him start? There isn’t much need to even take him out. He is young, he can handle it.

I know this is gonna sound stupid, but this underdog run-and-gun team seems a lot more appealing to me than whoever Walsh gets in free agency. If anyone.

Realistically, I think a better strategy in the offseason, especially if LeBron doesn’t sign, is to use the extra cap space to buy picks or young guys.

Meanwhile, the Knicks are now more fun to watch, and I will definitely be keeping an eye on them, for recreation purposes.

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by Ice_9ine on Feb 21, 2010 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

Preposterous

You don’t trade away picks and young players so you can have the cap room to…buy picks and young players. Not to mention you can’t buy lottery picks, only late 1st rounders at best.

You know what’s more appealing than an underdog run-and-gun team? A team that wins.

by gbnypat on Feb 21, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

You can't buy picks outright

but if you can give other teams salary cap relief, you could get decent players plus draft picks.

by fuhry on Feb 21, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

This is because

You hate the Lakers, as all good and decent people. But if you were a Laker fan you wouldn’t think “gee, if only the Lakers played a more uptempo style, I’d really enjoy these championships a lot more”. Also, the Lakers were put together through one free agent signing (Shaq) and some good drafting/Trades (Vlade for Kobe anyone?)

by gbnypat on Feb 22, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Ehh..

i have heard a lot of people call that Divac for Kobe trade a huge blunder, but Charlotte had really no choice. Kobe had said he would ONLY play for the Lakers and refused to play for Charlotte. Jerry West wasn’t stupid either. He knew he had all the cards once Kobe made his intentions known. I’m surprised at how many people don’t remember that.
It wasn’t entirely unlike Steve Francis (drafted #3 i think) refusing to place for the Vancouver Grizzlies and forced a trade. Or even Minnesota drafting Rubio and him staying oversees (does anyone really think he will suit up in a Minnesota uniform?).

I don’t necessarily consider these moves mistakes though…

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by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 22, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That doesn't change the fact

That it was a great trade for the Lakers, and part of how they built their team.

by gbnypat on Feb 22, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah it was an easy move for them

but it wasn’t like Charlotte didn’t know what they had. He made it clear he wouldn’t play for anyone but LA. Charlotte figured they could get something extra for him, but it didn’t work.

"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."

by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 22, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll bet we use the space to land 1 superduper star

Then keep D-Lee and T-Mac, and fill out the roster with a combination of very good players, young and old, who fit the system and are relatively inexpensive. Guys like Channing Frye, Grant Hill, Brendan Haywood, Marcus Camby, Morris Almond (BTW, why are we still paying Bender, who clearly has nothing left, and not signing Almond, who would be very handy late in games when we really need a sweet-stroking shooter? Just curious). And I love the idea of the Varnado pick (“Jarvis, here’s what we want you to do: get rebounds, block shots. Channel your inner Dennis Rodman, without the dress. Or… with the dress as long as you skip the ruffles.”). Our Big Three would be 1 star, T-Mac, and D Lee, and a bunch of really good shooters who are also long, smart, and switch endlessly on D. Just a thought.

by AtlKnicks on Feb 21, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed as well, but...

since we had no idea what Tmac would bring and have no idea if he’ll stay healthy (a very VERY risky “if”), couldn’t we have accomplished that same plan without making the trade we did and instead just have picked up Rodriguez or another good pg? I would have loved to see what our team would have done with someone like Sergio, or Sergio himself, from the beginning of the year instead of Duhon.

Without the deadline deal, we’d still have our 2009 lottery pick (JHill who is taller than anyone we currently have and who I think we’ll regret losing), a better pick in 2011 and our pick in 2012. We’d have the defensive-minded role player in JJ, etc, etc.

Not cryin’ over spilled milk… just sayin’.

Oh! Anyone else see Darko’s debut in Minny? There’s no way we could have used him at the 5 with Lee at the 4? Still confused on that one I guess… but we don’t see the behind-the-door stuff.

by Zhantee on Feb 22, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

yea what the hell is that about?

Darko played some damn good minutes.

For real, sometimes I just don’t know with Pringles. I really don’t know.

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 22, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Bender

 is our only other big on the lineup..hes kinds of forced to show up in games. we lost jeffries and hill and replaced them with guards.

we should have kept bill suchnsuch from twolves..i have no idea what his game is like. but a bigger body would have fit well on the bench and in moments where we need paint d or a rebound. but i cant say id be willing to drop duhon for him.

i know it wont happen.. but we should get BIG Z! even tho he slow as slug juice

by semsemma on Feb 22, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

It's nice to see some love for sergio. He sure didn't get any in Nate McMillen's system.

I’d like to see him get some good long burn to see if he really can play in this league. He wasted two years on the Blazer’s bench unfortunately.

by raoulduke on Feb 21, 2010 4:37 PM EST reply actions  

sergio had 6 assists last night

if it wasn’t for harrington he would have had 10

by thePharcyde on Feb 21, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s just his first game.

I think we may have found something there. He’s a little out of control, but he’s not Steve Nash who’s probably best at the frantic pace that Pringles wants out of the PG.

The Inquisition, if he reigns in his turnovers…which is possible, I think is gonna have a future in NY. The kid has and incredible pace and feel for the game. He just needs to play.

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 21, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

In case folks are wondering,

that that was a very typical game for Sergio, not better or worse than usual. Very very good on the drive and dish— he serves up open 3 point looks to teammates with passes delivered at perfect chest height at will. Very good on the pick and roll, Lee looks like a good target for the extra dunks and layups. Good in the open court, a little turnover prone on the run. Active, almost hyper defender, but will get beat or will make a mistake on when to help at least a couple of times a game, but he’ll also get a couple of steals and grab a loose ball or two. Biggest problem is his individual offense— he’s not a good shooter and he’s also not great at finishing around the rim.

Really an interesting player with lots of potential, Portland had no idea how to develop him.

by howlingfantods on Feb 21, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone notice we picked up a few

new members when tmac joined the team

JETS

by michael28102 on Feb 21, 2010 5:37 PM EST reply actions  

we got Tracy McGrady?

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 21, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

what do you mean?

like, you?

twitter.com/aighttho
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by stingy d on Feb 21, 2010 6:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

People

are getting more interested in this team with a star.

If we get someone like Wade or that other guy imagine what it would be like then

JETS

by michael28102 on Feb 21, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

well

you are talking about adding some of the most recognizeable basketball players in the world to a team that plays home games in the most recognizeable city in america.

i noticed. but i was looking at more interesting things. it will get worse.

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by stingy d on Feb 21, 2010 6:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

In the world's most famous arena

It’s the concrete jungle where dreams are made of

GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!

by tanman5 on Feb 21, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

yea

lots o’ new members woohoooooo now i’ll never win tickets :(

Knicks Record:

18-26

by GaLeeNateri on Feb 22, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

we got the best outta this trade

we got a potential starting pg whos deff an upgrade over duhon , and a scoring threat in t-mac.I know its a long shot but we can make the playoffs still and this team looks like they can handle most teams. eddie made me totally forget about nate.. hope he keeps it that way. Jordan Hill and jeffries didnt play in the rockets game … so far knicks 1 rockets 0

by Mario P on Feb 21, 2010 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

eff the rockets

im more worried about how the knicks play and develop from here on out. playoffs is my goal!
If we develop some type of paint defense. we could be somewhat of a sleeper..

i know its only been one game.. but im ijust sayin.

by semsemma on Feb 22, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Wade is getting an MRI on his calf

if he needs surgery and is done for the season, Thats one spot open and i think this team can be more consistent than detriot phili milwaukee and washington

JETS

by michael28102 on Feb 21, 2010 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

so let's hope wade goes down?

no homo

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by stingy d on Feb 21, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

wade

has a slightly strained calf.. hes listed as day to day and doesnt have to walk around with that fat ass boot on anymore lol

by semsemma on Feb 22, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

One miss trade..

I wish we would have make the Harrington for Thomas trade this Knicks team would have been AWSOME…….

by nickyb4898 on Feb 22, 2010 1:33 AM EST reply actions  

this.

there’s a ton of tall players out there, who are just OK that would make the Knicks a whole lot better.

Shit, Drew Gooden would be nice. Does he still have that piece of shit on the back of his head? Even better!

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 22, 2010 6:34 AM EST up reply actions  

we knew it would make us better

and we knew we needed that defender on the roster.. walsh tried to make it happen.. but charlotte gave up a lot for him.. a lot more than al harrington even swap. smh. daym u charlotte.

by semsemma on Feb 22, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yo...

I think the only trade the Knicks got hustled on is the Darko trade.

8pts, 8 boards, 2 assists and a block? In less then 20 minutes?

Holy SHIT…why were we not playing Darko?

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 22, 2010 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

i think the darko trade was

made to create space for the nate trade.

by semsemma on Feb 22, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

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