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Bucks 83, Knicks 67

A drastic change of personnel comes with some experimentation, and some experiments just don't go so well. The Knicks ran into a tough defensive team with an excellent big man tonight, as Andrew Bogut and the Bucks bullied New York on both ends.

While double teams worked on occasion, the Knicks simply weren't going to stop Bogut with David Lee being the only player even close to qualifying as a "big man" on defense. Lee's arch-nemesis finished with 24 points, 20 rebounds, and 5 blocks, dominating the puny Knicks the way you or I would against a gaggle of second-graders. Consider Experiment 1: "Playing a lineup without any post defenders against one of the league's best 7-footers" a failure. The new-look Knicks fared pretty well on Saturday against the smaller Thunder, but were exposed all at once at the hands of Andrew Bogut.

Experiment #2, "Turn Sergio Rodriguez from Chris Duhon's backup into a 30-minute starter in the span of 48 hours" didn't go so well either. Mike D'Antoni has always favored the upheaval over the gradual change, and the move tonight was for Sergio to assume every single one of Duhon's minutes. The result was just about what you'd expect from a guard who thrives on recklessness and improvisation starting for the first time alongside teammates with whom he's hardly practiced. Rodriguez's preferred speed and timing simply didn't match the other Knicks' expectations and positioning, and there were plenty of miscues as a result. With luck, Sergio will mesh better as he learns his teammates' habits, but it looked like outright chaos tonight. It's a shame, because the little dude did a pretty nice job against Brandon Jennings and managed a ridiculous 8 steals, very few of which resulted in fast break buckets. Perhaps accustomed to Du's casual pace, Sergio's teammates simply did not know or care enough to run with him. Starting Rodriguez and demoting Duhon is certainly the way to go, but it doesn't look like such a precipitous transition was a wise move.

That's pretty much how I saw it. The Knicks got big-boyed by the Bucks and outrun by their own point guard. Throw it all together and you get one of the sorrier performances of a pretty sorry season. More notes, after the jump:

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- Tracy McGrady dominated the ball for the second game in a row, only he looked a little sore this time and wasn't nearly as effective from the field. McGrady shot 5-14 for 15 points. He, too, has a ways to go in terms of jiving with his teammates. On nights like this, we can just load up this page and suck our thumbs.

- Wilson Chandler shot 6 times. Danilo Gallinari shot 8 times. This cannot happen.

- Meanwhile, Eddie House (4-16) led the team in attempts, and it wasn't nearly as cute as it was on Saturday night. "Cute" is exactly the word my housemate, who is a Celtics fan, uses to describe House. He warned me that there would be nights like tonight. There will be nights like Saturday, too. It's a give and a take. We came to the conclusion that House is kind of like J.R. Smith with less talent and less of a conscience.

- I really got the feeling that guys like Lee, Chandler, and Gallo spent possessions watching McGrady and Rodriguez handle the ball. A good lineup has a sort of collective proprioception by which players can cut and position themselves to receive passes without staring down the point guard. It's all about familiarity. At least I hope so. If the Knicks' offensive spacing looks like that for the rest of the season, I might have bitten off all my fingers by April.

- Wes Anderson should make a movie in which Royal Ivey is the patriarch of a zany family.

- Toney Douglas got off the bench in the second quarter...and registered a 3 trillion. D'Antoni opted to field lineups with House or McGrady at the point instead of letting Toney DWTDD. Again, we're still in the experimentation process, but I hope that's not a trend.

- Tonight's Walt Frazier Wildly Mispronounced Name of the Night goes to Luc-Richard "Mama Mootee".

- It was Legends Night. I, the punk kid, often feel a little beat over the head with the fact that the Knicks once won a couple championships, but I acknowledge my own ignorance. It was a tastefully executed presentation, and the live interviews with Bill Bradley, Willis Reed, and Bob Wolff were very nice.

- Speaking of which, Mike Breen prefaced the series of interviews and anecdotes with "we would like to apologize for the game sometimes taking a back seat tonight". Word has it that's exactly what Al Harrington (3-9) said in the locker room. Yikes.

- Question of the night: Would you rather be yourself or John Salmons?

It's time for me to study now, so I'll leave you to ponder that question. The Knicks have the Celtics tomorrow night. We'll be looking to see how much McGrady has to offer, how Rodriguez adapts to his teammates and vice versa, if Gallo and Wil can get involved, and how the Knicks cope with Kendrick Perkins. More on that game tomorrow.

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I was at the game for free (Thanks T-Mobile Store on W 34th!)

and it was not pretty up close. Al Harrington should not be allowed within 20 feet of a basketball. He’s reckless, selfish, makes bad choices but thinks it’s ok to keep doing these things because he hits a couple of threes.

I know it won’t happen because D’Antoni refuses to let go but it’s really worth considering buying out Du, Al and Eddie and letting them go to contenders where they can back up good players instead of pretending to be good players.

Let Sergio, TD, Chandler, Gallo and Lee start and figure it out with a little help from Rip Van TMac and maybe call up some solid D-League Prospects.

by Stargazey on Feb 23, 2010 12:13 AM EST reply actions  

Good plan

maybe we get to see some Bill Walker?

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

by The Glider on Feb 23, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Naw

that’s Giddens, I think. Walker’s OK, as far as I know.

by fuhry on Feb 23, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate al harrington

never have I been so frustrated with one player…what an embarrassment ESPECIALLY on legends night- the only upside was getting to catch Walt astound and abound from a podium and red carpet-

Different team-same result- we are NOT contenders

by dpileofashes on Feb 23, 2010 1:38 AM EST reply actions  

guys...

i’m pretty drunk right now.

i just want to say one thing.

i hate al harrington.

by riise on Feb 23, 2010 2:18 AM EST reply actions  

christ, just watched it on league pass

al harrington was just awful. he’s just terrible. i understand we don’t have any centers but when harrington was playing so, so badly why wasn’t bender put in instead when lee picked up his 4th? he looked ok in the first half.

also covered elsewhere on numerous occasions, but gallo needs something to get back on track offensively. don’t know what though, he looks such a different player to earlier in the season.

by patrickm23 on Feb 23, 2010 4:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Harrington

Am I alont when I say that Eddy Curry should be taking minutes from Harrington and J Bender?

Size is obviously an issue for us. and who’s to say Curry wont come in and actually improve our paint presence and rebounding inefficiencies?? As i’ve said before, im no fan of Curry. Hes one of the worst contract moves the knicks have done in franchise history.. but that still doesnt take away taht he’s 7 ft tall and plays center.

That in itself means he should get time, especially when our roster has NO other centers, or players that are capable of playing center. Besides the milkman.

by semsemma on Feb 23, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Curry

Is Eddy Curry still hurt? Or just in a permanent doghouse? He’s the worst rebounding big I’ve ever seen but I agree he’s got to get a few minutes on a night like this. Or you know the Knicks can do what a small ball team is supposed to do and RUN!!! Oh boo hoo Bogut is having his way with us AGAIN but here’s an idea. Since our bigs are undersized to play power forward let alone center they have to run.

by Jimmychu32 on Feb 23, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure Eddy Curry had knee surgery to remove cartilage

I believe his is still rehabbing for a couple weeks.

I think he knows that D’Antoni wont put him in a game though. I also think D’Antoni knows he won’t put Curry in a game either.

"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."

by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 23, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d like to see him get time over Harrington.

But I like Bender out there. I don’t really think he’s a big problem.

"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"

#88 ya'll

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 23, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

i was..

disappointed in T-mac’s assist(s), only 1, i know he’s a good passer, and when he’s not as effective in the game, he’s usually good at getting his team in the game more (as i’m typing this, highlights from the game pop up on NBAtv….spooooky) but to answer the question of the night…since baby jesus isnt an option…i’ll have to go with salmons.

by mcgadget on Feb 23, 2010 4:50 AM EST reply actions  

no look paella

looked downright dangerous starting last night. We should start a “fat lip counter” to see who gets beefed in the face most often by one of Sergio’s lasers. I saw Gallo take one early on and it was actually comical (if it wasn’t so sad). Maybe we can set the over/under on how many games it take for Al to look like Mushmouth because of too many no look paella servings.

by RobDiablo44 on Feb 23, 2010 9:03 AM EST reply actions  

is it just me

or has gallo changed ever since he’s been wearing the shooter’s sleeve.

by semsemma on Feb 23, 2010 9:20 AM EST reply actions  

well

he is wearing the sleeve because he had a sore elbow, so i imagine that is more the reason for change.

by gbaked on Feb 23, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Our height was an issue before the trades

but yeah, it is definitely more glaring now. Here is a mild excuse for a thought though….

The Wizards are gonna waive/buyout Ilgauskas soon. Sure he would pref to go back to Cleveland I beleive, but there seems to be talk about maybe Atlanta. Now, granted Atlanta’s road to the playoffs is much smoother than ours, but do you think it woudl be crafty to try and sign Ilgauskas for the rest of this season? I don’t picture him running much, but he IS a serviceable center…. and I can’t imagine the contract would have to be so expensive.

Eh?

"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."

by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 23, 2010 9:38 AM EST reply actions  

i would like him here..to be a service at the C

but he old. and his only motivation is to go to a winning team.

I couldnt think of one reason why he’d come here to NY at this stage in his career.

by semsemma on Feb 23, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

he would be insane to come here right now

over atlanta and the lebrons.

If he wanted to come here over those two playoff locks, I would not want him on the team because he may have gone insane.

by gbaked on Feb 23, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

all good points, of course

Hard to think of why he would come here unless it was for the money, which, of course, he wouldn’t get much of.

Still doesn’t change the fact that we would benefit from some sort of center. Id liek to see Curry get minutes, but hes hurt and done for the season.

"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."

by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 23, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

how has t-mac’s defense looked in the last two games? in houston he was criticized for being a lazy defender. no matter how far away a team mate was he’d direct him to pick up his man on defense.

by wayno on Feb 23, 2010 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

any team with a big good center

is going to beat us.

JJ helped while he was here, by simply running the help defense. With him gone, teams with beergut type players like the bucks are just going to win.

by gbaked on Feb 23, 2010 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

even with JJ

They are getting murdered on the boards – teams racking up lots of o-bounds on us. Damn we need Camby right now.

by fuhry on Feb 23, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

but when JJ was here, he would run the D and it was a LITTLE better. They just look lost out there on D without him.

by gbaked on Feb 23, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Living with a Celts fan?

My extreme sympathies.

"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"

by Serious Garbage Time on Feb 23, 2010 12:06 PM EST reply actions  

he's not totally insufferable.

either way, all my housemates root for the knicks because they fear for my health.

by Seth on Feb 23, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Danillo plays like a b!tch

I’m sick and tired of his inconsistency. In the beginning of the season he was really aggressive with taking the ball to the rack and hoisting three’s at will but now he looks timid out there and won’t shoot unless he is completely wide open.

There were a couple of times he made some nice moves towards the lane, got himself airborn then dished it to someone else. He is big enough to take some running jumpers in the lane if he creates a little bit of space.

Lastly…I HATE AL HARRINGTON!!!!!!!!!!

by 732jerseyP on Feb 23, 2010 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

Well...

I got free tickets to a nets game, maybe I’ll feel better about the knicks seeing a worse team play…i’ll be wearing my P&T Clyde shirt

by Kupe on Feb 23, 2010 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

Damn we're tiny....

Wonder if we should’ve sent TD away instead of Hill. I don’t see how we’ll survive without a center (or some big dude) until next year. I’d call Bryant Reeves at this point! LMAO I’d take Rik Smits and his bad feet right now! I am happy we addressed the PG need even if he’s light speed! I have privately coveted Sergios game while continually smdh at Duhons.
Is he signed past this year?
BTW, this is my first first post but I’ve been reading for a while. There are a lot of great posts and you guys (the regulars) always seem to make me giggle out loud (Seth especially). Thanks

"Umm - it was - you know - umm - a good game. You know."-
Patrick Ewing (my Knick Hero)

by Ren Carlos on Feb 23, 2010 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

Sergio is lightning

Man he is the uptempo push the ball guy this team has looked for! It would help if the other guys we’re keeping up…. in time i know.

The kid is fast!

by Jay Jordo on Feb 23, 2010 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

give the squad time

to learn that serge is uptempo EVERY play.. it seemed like a one on four or a 1 on three every time serge ran the court

by semsemma on Feb 23, 2010 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

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