Opinions on Dalembert?

by fuhry on Feb 26, 2010 5:23 PM EST

I was going over scenarios in my head for the Knicks' future, and as I look at this team, it looks pretty promising. But even if they were able to add HHSNBN, I still see a big size problem. This could be solved in the draft, perhaps, but that's a tall order with only second round picks. And the free agent bigs out there seem mostly long in the tooth.

One of the things that cap space affords us is the ability to make lopsided trades salary-wise. Samuel Dalembert of the Sixers is making 12 million this year and 12 million next year. Let's say, for arguments sake, that after re-signing Lee, signing Joe Johnson and McGrady on the cheap, and retaining Rodriguez' cap hold (about 2.5 mil, I think) we found ourselves with 11 million of cap space remaining - and then traded Wilson Chandler to the Sixers for Dalembert. It would use up the rest of the space - then we could sign Surge to a 5 mil deal or something, using his Bird rights to go over the cap. Dalembert would come off the cap after 2011 with Curry's contract, getting us under the cap again.

I'm not saying we should do that, but it's one scenario by which the Knicks could get an actual center. Dalembert seems to have good rebounding/shotblocking stats, but I haven't really seen him play much. He seems overpaid right now, but is he good?

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Only if we got someone much better than Johnson first

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by Serious Garbage Time on Feb 26, 2010 6:15 PM EST reply actions

Why not

trade Eddy Curry’s corpse for Dalembert? I’d assume if we don’t get that one guy we would be under the cap next year. If dalembert makes 12 mil for 2 years we can trade 11.3 mil of curry for him easy.

by Justin_44 on Feb 26, 2010 7:45 PM EST reply actions

Why

in God’s name would the Sixers trade Dalembert for Curry? Think, man!

by fuhry on Feb 26, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions

they would if they want to try and make a splash in the 2011 market

and yes, Curry is a useless lump on the court, but the the sixers have young guys like speights and smith that they are trying to get time around Brand and Dalembert right now. They are trying to shed some of their size.

I live in philly and am often stuck watching the 76ers, and have always thought dalembert was overpaid and underplayed. he’s an excellent defender and even has a jumpshot going for him. Giving up chandler for him though? Nah, even if we have an adequate FA coming in to play the forward. Rather risk going for a tall FA or somebody better than dalembert. Grab Thabeet from Memphis; he was just demoted to the D-league.

by Ray Smuckles on Feb 26, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions

But Dalembert's contract expires after 2011 just like Curry's.

by fuhry on Feb 27, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions

right right, forget the FA market

but the rest holds true. also, sammy dropped 24 on the Lakers last night. Maybe the knicks could pull the “test drive” thing they do and let sammy tryout next year, then decide whether or not to resign him (for way less)

by Ray Smuckles on Feb 27, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions

Dalembert’s still a good player for them…the Sixers problem is Elton Brand is the last thing they need on that squad.

If the Sixers had say…David Lee on their team, and played a running up tempo style they’d be better off playing…they’d be a better team (also…if they kept Andre Miller).

THe Sixers would have no reason to give up Dalembert next year.

They would give up Elton Brand’s albatross contract…but that would be an Isiah Thomas move to make that sort of trade.

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by FreeBradshaw on Feb 27, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions

true

sir elton is clogging sixer development, and he simply isn’t good enough to move with his contract (5 year, 80 million i believe). Trading andre is the reason that the sixers are not in the playoffs. Philly needs someone who has been around and reliable like dalembert, but they have a better chance of getting rid of him than brand, and sooner. That’s why dalembert was in trade talks prior to the deadline.

Eddie Jordan is waaay more inconsistent and generally worse than pringles at managing the lineup, and that’s saying something.

by Ray Smuckles on Feb 27, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions

Why not?

I believe Dalembert makes around 12.82 m. Curry makes about 11.2 m. That is a savings of 1.6 m to the sixers. The knicks can add to that to make it sweeter. It’s not like the Sixers are going anywhere with Dalembert. So, why not save some money. The Knicks should do everything possible (in terms of Curry and money) to get Dalembert.

by skot on Feb 27, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions

Think public relations.

How, as the Sixers GM, do you justify trading a worthwhile player for a guy who can’t get on the floor, and when he does, can’t rebound or block shots? Just to save 1.5 million? If Walsh did something like that, wouldn’t you be pissed?

by fuhry on Feb 27, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions

he wouldnt get to play

dalembert is only a rebounder and defensive player…those type of players are like cooties to dantoni

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by zlander on Feb 26, 2010 8:23 PM EST reply actions

Good point

by fuhry on Feb 26, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions

dalembert can block shots and rebound.

thats it. nothing else lol

by karamjitm9090 on Feb 26, 2010 9:59 PM EST reply actions

The Knicks as currently constituted

Sorely need both those skills. But yeah, 12 million is a lot to pay for a guy like that. How did he get that contract?

by fuhry on Feb 26, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions

alot of blocked shots

you could say that the massive contracts guys like jared jeffries and jerome james were getting inflated his stock as well. i really hope the next cba lowers the minimum salary. we need to start making these guys earn their money. unproven rookies fresh out of college. dont even have a credit history are making millions. come on!

by karamjitm9090 on Feb 27, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions

I like the idea

of limiting the length of contracts. Desperate teams give mediocre guys 5-10 million dollar deals to preserve their chemistry or improve or whatever, then the guys turn out to be scrubs, and 3 of the 5 years are money thrown down the toilet on a useless guy taking a roster spot. I think guys can get paid, but it would help the teams and the product on the floor to have these contracts end a couple of years sooner.

by fuhry on Feb 27, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions

For his production

I’d want him at 7 mil a year max, but even then, I’d still take Nenad Kristic at 5.8 mill over him any day. Not saying thats possible, but if you’re not gonna get an elite big man, at least get a 2nd or 3rd tier guy at a good price.

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by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Feb 28, 2010 1:15 PM EST reply actions