Tonight the fans at MSG were treated to Ike vs Tina part two; "except [The real] Tina had talent!"
Editor's Note: I'm working on the ticket winners. In the meantime, here's Rohpuri' recap of last night.
In case you missed it, the final score was 113-93 in favor of the Nets.You can thank fellow P&T'er "Serious Garbage Time" for the headline. Tonight the Knicks got slapped around like the 1970's diva. This was the analogy that NBA TV was hinting at in their post game show. However, I don't like it, although it was the first one that came to mind. I feel the comparison below to be more appropriate.
If you are like me, you've probably listened to Jim Rome a few times over the past few years, especially when he goes on long winded tangents that sometimes involve him replaying funny 9-1-1 phone calls. I equate tonight's loss to the 9-1-1 call Tanya Harding made after punching her boyfriend and throwing him to the ground. Only the Knicks were the boyfriend from the end of the call who screams "I've got nothing to hide, so come on over officers." From midway through the second quarter til the final buzzer, it was brutal. Sadly enough, the Knicks gave 110% effort out there and still got taken to the woodshed, by a team that entered tonight's contest with a world beating 6-55 record. Indeed, the Knicks had nothing to hide. They left their sucktitude out on the hardwood for all the world to see. The Knicks could have used a "COPS" intervention to put an end to the domestic assault they received at the hands of their little step brother from across the Hudson River.
Continue reading after the jump.
The Nets were on the heels of back to back home losses to the Cavs and the Magic as they rolled in to New York. Tonight's game was the start of a five game road trip that has the Nets playing its next four games in the Western Conference cities of Memphis, Dallas, Oklahoma City, and Houston. Who knew their matchup with the Knicks would be their most winnable game? Anybody? Anybody? Buehler, Buehler, Frye, Frye? I guess that makes all of us when I say no one saw this coming. And if any of you did, then show me your betting slip.
Regardless, the Nets left the Garden with their seventh win of the season, while the Knicks where busy spraying down MSG with a big bottle of Ferbreze after the stink of their 41st loss this season. Before I dish out the blame for this pisspoor spectacle let me throw some quick stats at you, as well as my explanation as to why the Knicks are 21-41 (just terible, Kenny!).
If you're sadistic enough to look at the box score, like genius here, then all I ask is that you pay attention to one stat and one stat only. Three-point shooting. Folks, tonight's game was both won and lost from beyond the arc. The reason the Nets won tonight's game was the simple fact they shot 58.3% from downtown, going 14-for-24. This performance would have brought a smile to the face of legendary Knicks' assassin, Reggie Miller. Three Nets played as though they were the lone gunman on the grassy knoll. Jarvis Hayes (off the bench), Devin Harris, and Courtney Lee combined for 65 points, and 12-for-20 (60%) from the ABA line. If this was the ever popular N64 game Golden Eye, those three earned themselves the "Marksmanship" award. What's more, they didn't just shoot their threes off any one play.
They nailed their threes coming off of fast-breaks, in transition, and within the half-court offense. Hell, there were several instances where a New Jersey player would miss a shot from a short distance, then another teammate would grab the rebound, kick the ball back out to the permiter, and then one of the above would drain a three to add insult to injury. It was gut wrenching watching the Nets have an extended team shoot-around because of the "mind fuck" which took place with the Knick players.
How'd they respond you ask? The Knicks as a team collectively earned themselves the "Where's the Ammo?" award as they fired nothing but blanks. Yes, your New York Knicks were an abyssmal 0-for-18 from three-point distance. No, your eyes are not deceiving you, the Knicks actually shot a donut that was so big it made every cop in Midtown make a pit-stop for some Entenmann's. Who were the goats tonight?
The award for "Most Harmless" goes to.....drum roll please.....opens the envelope.....read's names (not surprised)....folks, tonight we have a three way tie. Would Al "Bricks" Harrington, Eddie House, and Tracy McGrady please step up to the stage and accept this award?
This trio delivered a turdsandwhich to all those who had nothing better to do on a Saturday evening. This unamazing triumvirate combined for 20points, while going 0-for-11 from downtown. Special recognition needs to be given to Tracy McGrady for the uninspiring performance he had, outside of his three blocked shots and seven assists (five in the first half). On this night he only scored two points going 1-of-6 (0-for-2 from 3pt). This might sound mean, but he's my candidate for "Most Cowardly", as he's displayed the uncanny tendancy to run away and hide in all nine of his games with the team. However, in all fairness, this team sucked long before Donnie Walsh pulled the trigger on his cap saving trade for T-Mac. The reason behind the team's struggles became clear to me during the Raptors game on Friday night. Now before I begin, I know when I say this all of you will collectively call me Captain Obvious. I ask that you hear me out.
Folks, the Knicks' woes on defense are more to do with the 41 losses than anything else. I know, shocking. However it's not their strategy in the half court that's killing them. Rather, their poor shot selection on offense leads directly to their ineptness on defense. Have you ever asked yourself why is it that this team always seems to give up a lot of points in transition whether it comes from "and 1's", easy layups, or wide open 3's; and how they typically are called for a cheap foul on these plays?
Their matador ways are the result of the team standing around and watching shots miss-fire when they are on offense. Once it becomes clear the shot will miss, the team is still flatfooted with their backs to end of the court they must defend. This allows the other team to rebound, kick the ball out in transition, and blow right passed the Knicks who will most likely be late in getting back on defense. As a result, you have one of the league's worst defenses in terms of opponent's field goal percentage. Plain and simple. No specific player is the culprit in this regard, as it is an epidemic with these guys. Unfortunately, it is too late in the season to cure them of the disease. This is something the coaching staff has to work on from day one in training camp next season. Sure, this team can go out and sign any player they want this summer, as a near overhaul of the roster might transform them into a playoff team. However, they won't become a legit title contender until this 500 pound elephant is removed from the room. Now that this mystery has been solved, I have a quick bone to pick with the chuckleheads at TNT.
I partially blame TNT's Inside the NBA that aired on Thursday Night for tonight's loss. Near the end of the show, Ernie Johnson poured over New Jersey's remaining schedule and threw the question to the three analysts, Chris Webber, Kenny Smith, and Charles Barkley. EJ asked them how many games they thought the Nets would win. He was of the opinion the Nets would finish the season with 12, yes you heard me, 12 wins. Much to his chagrin, C-Webb, Kenny, and Charles went to town on him. Kenny went on a five minute tangent where he said no free agent in their right minds would go to a team that was this bad. His analysis:
"Normally when you bring in free agents you sell the player(s) on the pieces you have, and how they [the free agent] will be the one to push them over the top...typically when you're trying to paint a picture to the free agents about your franchise, you show them that you were good enough to win 30-40 games, and how the savior is [insert free agent]. The Nets, haven't done that, if I'm LeBron James I'd take one look at that team and say to myself, they might not win ten games this season, and then ask myself if I want to play with any of these 'pieces.' "
From there, Smith said the Nets might not win another game. Immediately after, as Barkley was trying to hold back his laughter and give his opinion as to how many games the Nets would win, Johnson and Webber cut him off and shifted the debate to whether or not the Nets would be able attract any marquee players given the team's close proximity to New York. Webber was of the opinion that because "the Nets play in the Tri-State Area" they wounldn't be shut out by this summer's big ticket attractions. Barkley retorted "TRI-STATE AREA?!? THAT'S NOT NEW YORK!" Great, thank's for the georgraphy lesson Charles.
Webber's response "where do the Nets play? They play in the Meadowlands, which is five miles from New York." Barkley quickly explained "they have this expression, a New York mile, those five miles are like 25 New York miles." Kenny Smith quickly interjected "New Jersey is not New York, take it from me, I'm from New York." Webber replied "Kenny, I expect you to say that, but Charles man, come on, just answer me this Chuck, where do the Jets and the Giants play?" Barkley replies "In New Jersey, but it don't matter. Mississippi and Lousiana are close to Alabama, but they aint no Alabama." Barkely then said the Nets would tie the 76ers for the NBA's single season record for futility. On the otherhand, if I'm not mistaken, Chris Webber said he felt the Nets will have the record come season's end.
Thank you Inside The NBA, I highly doubt this segment, and it's proximity in time to the Knicks Nets game, was merely a coincidence. These ass clowns outdid themselves in trying to emulate Tony Dungy for biggest douchebag sports analyst of the year. Now if you excuse me, I will be dousing myself with Febreze.
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Good call on T-Mac
He’s hiding and not producing, and yet the team looks better with him out there. frustrating!
Good question
I think it looks better, and the shot selection isn’t chuck and go unless T-Mac wants to involve himself.
"I guess I'm gonna fade into Bolivian." --Mike Tyson
by Rohpuri on Mar 7, 2010 2:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
thankfully
i don’t understand your jim rome reference.
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by stingy d on Mar 7, 2010 9:23 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Sad Reality Check
Exactly 10 years ago the Bulls tried the same technique of tanking a season for cap space. Nobody of note signed with the Bulls and they were spurned by Tracy McGrady among others. So they signed Ron Mercer (!) with their cap space.
Their record the next season? 20-61
Not good times.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Mar 7, 2010 10:55 AM EST reply actions
this is true.
I just hope they don’t sign the 2010 version of Mercer.
Regardless of whether they get anyone, getting rid of the trash on this roster and cleaning the slate is fine by me.
When you have a $100+ million payroll, leading the NBA…and are as bad as they’ve been….simply clearing them all out is fine.
Don’t fuck up who you add…but by clearing cap space, the Knicks (Walsh) have also cleaned up a ton of shit.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 7, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah but
This isn’t a clearing out shit move as much as its a sign this guy (or these guys) now move. You don’t trade potentially two lottery picks plus your previous year’s lottery pick just to clear out garbage.
Walsh’s success will be entirely determined by whether or not he can bring in FAs and make this team competitive in the next two years.
Why not build with draft picks?
You guys deserve a better team. I used to have season tickets in the nose bleed section in this Garden as well as in the old Garden on 49th street. I moved to Chicago in 1978. I like the sight-lines in the old Garden. I admire Walsh for have a plan and sticking to it. You should improve after the summer.
The one area I question Walsh is diminishing your chance to get a good draft pick in 2011 and 2012. That takes away a critical opportunity to get an excellent player at a low price. Free agents are great but they are expensive and eat away a significant portion of cap space. If they are injured or do not measure up you are stuck with a terrible contract. Drafts can be busts but you get another chance without mortgaging your future with a long burdensome contract.
I hope you do not mind if I occasionally drop in as I have in the past. July 1st will be interesting for both the Bulls and Knicks.
I agree, I like building through the draft
but when you look at it…..aside from a team like the Thunder, who really ’hits" on all their picks year after year?
Also…if we’re building through the draft, 2010 would be a big year for that. Our previous asshole GM traded 2 picks for the equally assholish Marbury, one of which ended up unprotected in 2010.
They would not have been under the 2010 cap if they didn’t make all the move they were making either
The object of Donnie Walsh was to clean the crap..the $100million albatross that was the Knicks. He’s never said its to get max contract players…merely to have a shot at them if they’re there.
Unfortunately….you gotta spend cheap assets like picks to get rid of that.
Master of the squeegee
It was a different situation
Because no on wanted to follow Jordan. Also, like the Pistons last year, the Bulls blew it by using that cap space on mediocre players.
If the Knicks are smart, and they strike out on the big guns, they’ll keep a big chunk of that cap space in reserve and wait for the right moment to use it.
Exactly
Who would this summer’s free agents be afraid of following? The last player we had who was even worth following was jetisoned to Seattle the summer after he and sprewell desperatley tried to get us back to the NBA finals. It’s been 10 long and painful years without Patrick Ewing, I would like to believe the time is ripe for a change of fortunes with our once proud franchise.
"I guess I'm gonna fade into Bolivian." --Mike Tyson
by Rohpuri on Mar 7, 2010 2:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well, here's hoping
I can think of lots and lots of teams that spent unwisely with their cap room, but I can’t think of any team that just refused to use their cap room. Especially since there is a minimum total salary the team must have. (Anybody know what it is?) Do you really think we’ll be the first?
Let’s not forget, Donnie is the guy that offered multiyear deals to Jason Kidd and Grant Hill. Last year.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Mar 7, 2010 4:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The 2009-2010 NBA Salary Cap
1) Salary Cap is set at $57.7million
2) The Luxury Tax Threshold is $69.92 million
3) This year’s mid-level exemption is $5.84 million
4) Team’s cannot spend less than 75% of the salary cap on team salaries; therefore, this season no team’s minimum salaries for player’s contracts can fall bellow $43.275 million.
5) http://www.insidehoops.com/nba-salary-cap.shtml
"I guess I'm gonna fade into Bolivian." --Mike Tyson
by Rohpuri on Mar 7, 2010 8:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks for doing my work for me
So we’re going to have to spend at least $21 million on 8 players. Is there any chance we can do that all with one-year deals? Or at least half of it, since we’ll be dropping Curry’s fat load of a contract in 2011?
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Mar 8, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Ha, I was waiting for someone to acknowledge the Bulls misshandling of that situation.
"I guess I'm gonna fade into Bolivian." --Mike Tyson
by Rohpuri on Mar 7, 2010 2:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Excellent recap, by the way
I thankfully missed this stinker. 0-18 from 3 is pretty flukey, but par for the course this season.
What’s it gonna take to get Toney Douglas in the lineup? We need a defensive quarterback to whip the morons into shape and it might as well be him. What’s the point of playing Eddie House when we already have a guy (Harrington) that will shoot us into (sometimes) games and out of (most of the time) games.
well said
Although it looks like Bill Walker has more upside which is why he’s seeing the court. But I agree if you draft a guy and you know this season will be a lost cause why not play him till he vomits so he can get much needed NBA experience.
"I guess I'm gonna fade into Bolivian." --Mike Tyson
by Rohpuri on Mar 7, 2010 2:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hate D'Antoni...
‘s game and roster management skills. We’ve lost too many games we should have won. It startin to show who was the real cheese behind the run in Phoenix. If the Knicks end up like Chicago with no free agents this summer, Walsh and D’antoni both should be fired. Walsh took a gamble to turn around the franchise with free agents. If it fails, then he should go. Any fool can gut a roster, the trick is keeping valuable assets while doing it. But after trading all those draft picks, getting no top level FA’s would be a disaster!!!
give me van gundy!
i miss basketball in may… we used to be regulars. each year our team gets softer. our coach is just collecting a big fat paycheck. FOR WHAT! hes a hypocrite. hes not a coach, GAGA71 i couldnt agree with u more. i remember a game last year against the blazers at the rose garden. were up by 1 with seconds to go and a foul to give. did d’an duffus use it? NO. roy drives easily to the basket lays it in. knicks lose by 1. THANX MIKE
I expected the Nets to Win
I am not sure why anyone is shocked by this result. The Nets have been getting better and healthier and the Knicks have been getting worse (much worse). It’s not just random variations that make the Knicks particularly bad now. All the GM’s we have traded with in the last one and a half years (except Boston’s) have extracted talent and capability from us in return for giving us cap space this summer. It’s their job to do this and, assuming reasonable GM competence, this is what I would expect and what we seem to be getting. The Knicks have gotten worse after every major trade Walsh has made. Time will tell if this sacrifice will get something good for the Knicks next year.
I left Boston out because the Robinson trade was not about clearing cap space. And, in fact, based on performance on the floor so far, it might have been a fair trade (even though I loved having Robinson on the Knicks)
in bill simmons like hindsight
i see your point. all kidding aside, with the exception of bill walker and david lee, i would rater have the nets roster sans humphries and williams.
"I guess I'm gonna fade into Bolivian." --Mike Tyson
by Rohpuri on Mar 8, 2010 2:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hindsight
Yes, I agree and they have cap space too.
can’t we just be happy for the Jazz and the exquisite player they’re going to draft this summer? they might be able to pull john wall. john wall + deron williams = horrifying.
and when you consider the fact the whole state of utah only has the jazz (plus BYU); good for them. mormons everywhere rejoice and sing isiah’s praises!
they wouldnt pick Wall
They would take a guy like Demarcus Cousins, or another big guy.
As good as Wall is… seems obvious he needs to have the ball a lot and why would Utah take the ball out of Deron Williams hands? I bet they end up with a guy like Evan Turner or Wes Johnson. Ugh….it would be awesome to have those guys in NY…. where’s Francis The Vomiting Man when i need him????
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by Chris Child's Fist on Mar 9, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
if any team was gonna get our pick
and make me not care very much, it is Utah.
plus, they play houston a bunch, so them getting better is better for us the following draft.
And its not like Utah will ever win anything ever, so who cares.
how is them getting better good for us?
a) Are you trying to say that the fact their record keeps getting better because they play houston this year?
Utah’s record has no impact on the first round pick we sent them, as it is our record which impacts how high or low they pick in the first round (with our pick).
b) If I am wrong in a) then I have no idea what you are trying to say.
"I guess I'm gonna fade into Bolivian." --Mike Tyson
i think the thought was
that the worse houston is next year, the better the knicks chances are of keeping their own pick or serving a relatively small penalty for switching picks.
there it is
i am really reaching to not care about the fact we are giving up another top pick.
I’m tryin’, Ringo. I’m trying real hard

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