Knicks 99, Hawks 98: "I just pooped a little."
For whatever reason, the Knicks have owned the Hawks this year. New York moved to 3-0 against one of the East's best clubs tonight with a close win that was sealed by-- wait for it-- defense in the final seconds. After a couple weeks of tinkering, Mike D'Antoni's rotation and the Knicks' distribution of shots were a little more in line with what you'd expect from a doomed team with some promising talent. Notes on that and more, after the jump...
- Let's start at the end. The Knicks, who had been hot all game long, got typically reckless in crunchtime, and all but blew a 10-point lead by stumbling through the final five minutes. It came down to the Knicks having the ball with a little more than a shot clock remaining and the Knicks up 1. Toney Douglas drove towards the basket, had the ball knocked away (if you watch the replay, Josh Smith took a pretty meaty swing at Toney's arm, but whatever), and the Hawks ran the other way for a final attempt. Jamal Crawford scampered into the middle and drew David Lee's attention, which freed Josh Smith for a backdoor cut. Crawford fed Smith the rock and he rose up for the game-winning dun--SMASH! Wilson Chandler saved the day with a perfectly timed stonewall of Smith's dunk. Wil met him at the apex, jarring the ball loose. Al Horford got his hands on the rebound, but his putback attempt was revealed by replay to be well after the buzzer. Game over.
- Until the closing minutes, Danilo Gallinari was the game's star. Gallo fully tossed aside his hesitancy and led the offense to the promised land. He demanded the rock when matched up with little kids like Mike Bibby and directed traffic with the ball in his hands (Seriously. He screamed at Toney Douglas to clear out at one point.). Danilo was aggressive from the opening tip, but it didn't hurt that The Cock was strokin' it from outside, canning 4 of his 5 threes. All told, 27 points on 9-14 shooting, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, and pretty dogged defense on Marvin Williams is a pretty nice return to form from our beloved youngster.
- Speaking of beloved youngsters, Toney Douglas finally got to spin in earnest, and didn't disappoint in his 23 minutes. Toney's still given to missing his cutter or dribbling into traffic, but his point guard play looked relatively sharp. Douglas looked for his own shot when necessary, but also made a couple sweet dishes, including a gorgeous bullet of a feed to find Al Harrington under the rim in the fourth quarter. I also got semi-hard for an incredibly difficult finish in a 2 or 3-on-1 fast break situation. Meanwhile, Chandler's block might've saved Toney from being the goat in this one, but I maintain that the rook got fouled on the final possession. Yes, I am biased. I won't budge. Whatever you thought of that final possession, Toney Douglas did what Toney Douglas do, and I think we can expect more from him as the season winds down.
- Al Harrington was undoubtedly the force that pulled the ball out of Danilo Gallinari's hands in the fourth quarter, but he at least hit a big jumper to put the Knicks up 3 with less than a minute remaining.
- Mike D'Antoni rolled out his zone defense for significant stretches of this one. With Jared Jeffries long gone, the roaming middle of the zone was anchored by Harrington, Gallinari, or Chandler. The scrambling D did a pretty decent job of keeping Atlanta out of the paint, and some combination of decent closing out and incredible luck held the Hawks to 3-17 shooting from outside.
- In addition to luck and good defense, all three-pointers that the Hawks missed from the right side in the second half can be attributed to Eddie House standing up from the bench and barking at shooters.
- Sergio Rodriguez split time with Douglas and continued to force some passes (6 turnovers in 23 minutes is less than ideal), but I will give the Inqusition credit for making good use of the considerable speed advantage he holds over Mike Bibby. The muppet simply couldn't hang with Sergio's drives to the rack.
- Clyde's usual trouble pronouncing "Horford" didn't go unnoticed, but I was particularly intrigued by his occasional utterance of the phrase "pornt guard", which I hadn't picked up on before.
- Tracy McGrady did not play.
- Mike Breen revealed that he loved Jethro Tull growing up, which kind of surprised me.
- Toney Douglas played well into the fourth quarter, then was subbed out for Eddie House with just under 4 minutes remaining, only to return at 1:41. I cannot explain this move, but it seems to have worked.
- House's beard, meanwhile, is not gone. It just got shorter. Don't fret.
- Bill Walker was totally silent after scoring 8 points on two threes and a double-clutch dunk in the first quarter. I literally forgot he existed until I noticed that my post-game puddle of drool was unusually small.
- If I had to pick one NBA player to chew through a rope, it would be Maurice Evans. He seems to have a very muscular head, which leads me to believe that he's got a mighty bite.
- We were reminded that this season will be the first in Jamal Crawford's career in which he makes it to the postseason. I'm very excited for Crawford to get ridiculous against some hapless playoff opponent (I could see him replicating Ben Gordon's performance against the Celtics last year), but at the same time, his performance tonight (5-16) didn't exactly make me miss his offense, four-point play notwithstanding. No matter what, though, I'll always have a soft place in my heart for Jamal Crawford. Like I've said before, it's soft because I love him, but also soft because his years as a Knick probably weakened my aorta.
- I always thought the referees were out of bounds, but after Eddie House banked a pass to Toney Douglas off an official, I learned that they're totally inbounds. This should probably be incorporated into a player's offensive repertoire. Like, if you're driving up the sideline, you could bounce the ball of a ref's chest, spin by your man, then catch it with a clear lane to the basket. I will build an entire NBA offense off of this marginal rule and become a legend.
- Tonight's comment-headline comes from FreeBradshaw, because I think each of us might've lost control for a second at the end there. It happens to the best of us.
That is all, lizards. If you were in the suite tonight, I'd love to hear about what the Garden experience was like. The Knicks are back in action on Wednesday. We'll talk before then. Love is love is love.
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I'll take Reggie Evans for the rope-chewing.
Best game since the last time the Knicks played the Hawks.
i'm just wondering
why charles barkley and terry cummings look so similar…
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by stingy d on Mar 9, 2010 5:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Clyde's superfluous R's
Really?! You’ve never noticed the word “pornt” before??? Its one of my all-time favorites. My friends and I have diagnosed Clyde with the penchant for randomly sprinkling the “r” sound throughout his vocabulary with absolutely no rhyme or rhythm. Its just beautiful art that you can’t even try to understand. “Pornt” is obviously a constant.
Back in the day is was great to watch the Knicks-Bucks games because you would have Renaldo Borkman, Earl Borkins, and Andrew Borgut all playing against each other. Against the Raptors the other night there were more than a few references to Chris Barsh.
I once saved the DVR of Clyde calling Vince Carter a slam dunk champereyn so that my friends and I could watch it repeatedly.
I’ve checked with speech pathologists (my mom) and it doesn’t seem that this is a regular syndrome or even a common symptom. The closest thing is the Brooklyn accent that sometimes puts R’s in words like Idear (Peter Vecsey), but obviously that is far from the case here.
Just sharing.
by Adam NYC on Mar 9, 2010 8:39 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
awresome
haaaaa yeah this is great. so many times i’ve just been sitting there watching a game and went “huh???” good stuff.
i’ve always wondered why more teams that have zero defensive ability don’t try to zone more often. not saying it’s the easiest thing to learn but being that our defense is right up there with the worst in the league i would think the zone would be more of an option.
3-0 vs atlanta yet we have lost to the worst team in the history of the NBA twice this year. go figure.
sounds like it was a good one.
i’m real excited about danilo. hopefully he assumes control for the rest of the year. and even more hopefully- he will not let harringbone’s stone hands take control down the stretch.
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by stingy d on Mar 9, 2010 8:43 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I only saw the end
and witnessed Gallo pass up a perfectly good three, then go up for it too late, then try an ill advised pass. That was ugly, but I like that 4-5 from three, and the defensive swagger.
i didn't see it
but based on what seth says in this recap, and what i’ve seen leading into last night’s game (over the past year and change), gallinari just needs to be put in the position. he’s ready to win games for us. but he also wants to be a team player. harringstone wants to be the man, and will neglect the hot hand.
but so what do we got….
-gallinari had the hot hand all game.
-harrington took a few shots, but might have been heating up late.
-gallinari hesitates on a three, then jacks it up anyway.
harrington has a penchant for forcing the action, gallinari tends to let the game come to him. both have benefits and drawbacks. but i mean, obviously gallo hesitated, the flow of the game showed that he was the one they needed out there, then harrington goes against the grain, and gallo, in his first full year, tries not to upset the new flow.
i should just give it a rest, because we all know, and we all agree:
gallo is the golden child, and harrington has got to go.
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Suite Experience (pun intended? Hmmm)
Overall very good. The extra booze did help ease the stress of a Knick game. The final play left everyone booing, then quickly silenced, followed by an eruption of cheers. High fives all around in the suite.
I concur
Also I liked Harrington’s bouncing pass to Lee for a layup. Never expected it from Al. Even the Hawks were stunned.
Sergio runs circles around the basket until opponents’ heads start spinning. Then he passes to an open teammate. Or just loses the ball.
Gallo was really taking it to the basket. It was nice to see.
The law of avearges benefited the Knicks. After the historical 0-18 the other night they were bound to rebound (can I really says that?) from downtown.
And still they almost lost. Thanks god and Will Chandler.
Can't help but wonder...
why do the Knicks own the Hawks?
no and he'd probably be done as a pro ref
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by inventor frank on Mar 9, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Thoughts on the last few minutes
After the Knicks took a 10 point lead with less than 5 remaining, they looked scared on offense and it seemed like everyone was afraid to screw up – and they just didn’t take a good shot.
That’s why D’antoni very wisely put Eddie House in there because Eddie doesn’t give a shit – he just plowed into the lane and went for it. Too bad his pretty pass to Lee was negated by his post -dish moving pick, but still, House showed that you just have to go for it.
The problem with House is that he will go for it but he often can’t actually do it. So D’antoni wisely took him out and put Douglas back in. Seriously, that was a great moment for me, because even though Douglas made a couple of mistakes there, including that last turnover, his defense just takes the opponent out of their comfort zone. And I think with a bit more time in the league he gets that call at the end. And for D’antoni to trust Douglas out there and for the game to end with a win, it’s just awesome.
Great block by Chandler – he hasn’t been making big plays at the end of games, so it was especially awesome.
Also liked that play where Lee posted up, did a spin move to his left and put the ball up with his right hand, then got his own rebound and put it in. I really think they should throw the ball to Lee in the post at crunch time more. It usually ends well.
That was a good 3-4 min sequence
of going back and forth between house and douglas.
"I guess I'm gonna fade into Bolivian." --Mike Tyson
by Rohpuri on Mar 9, 2010 2:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mally C is my boy too..
its great he’ll get in the playoffs this year, he’s a real good dude and deserves it (even if his b-ball style runs on “annoying knucklehead” mode too much)
Story of this season, that really angers me…not the no draft pick..not the losing, not the mortgaging every pick to get cap space..
..its not passing to Gallo. I’d much rather see him go 3-17 then fucking Al Harrington, but the ball always goes to Harrington, and it never comes out.
I dunno what’s gotta be done…is it Pringles yelling? But Shit Demon getting 15 shots a game, while Cock gets 10…is really annoying.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 9, 2010 10:06 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
something has got to be done, because that shit pisses me the fuck off
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Mar 9, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
Crawford said some nice stuff in the papers today about Knicks fans. The feeling is mutual.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Mar 9, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
agreed!
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Mar 9, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
I know Wil Chandler looks kind of soft...
but, I wonder why people don’t go overboard on sucking his cock like the do Gallo. And please stop all this blame Harrington when things go wrong. Sure the guy takes too many shots, but only because Gallo is not shooting enough. He gets taken out of his game when he doesn’t shoot well. D’Antoni wants him to shoot more. Maybe he afraid of getting the Harrington treatment if he goes 3-17.
hard to shoot when the ball isn't in your hands.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Mar 9, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Partly because Ill Will is missing his voicebox
We like some emotion ‘round here. And Gallo’s general goofiness also plays well with the crowd.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Mar 9, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
What about
Chandler being an Isiah pick vs. Gallo being the first post-Isiah move? I think that could subconsciously have a little to do with it. Plus, people might associate Wil with the bad years.
Though I don’t think people feel that way about Lee. I dunno, just a thought.
First post...and love the site, BTW
I believe the Gallo/Chandler ‘bias’ is more from a reality of pure shooter versus 1-on-1 scorer. With our inability to play consistently in the D’Antoni ‘system’ (love that hodgepodge roster), we’re often faced with uphill battles looking for quick hit points. Working around a point forward will only slow down tempo and ability to stage endless comebacks.
Finally, Gallo’s upside is still both unknown and apparently quite high. We know what WC is bringing (which is good stuff, albeit known). Where this team is at, it arguably makes more sense to enable upside – ie Toney over Nate Robinson – versus staying the course of mediocracy-inspired losses. If Gallo learns to play consistent D, understand ball movement better, look out.
And yes, Big Al needs to stop shooting so damn much. At least he clocks in at 44% (versus the Hughes factor of scratch off ticket percentage success)…and brings it most nights.
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Ditto
And it’s clear that Chandler is very much loved and worshipped around these parts, even if there’s a bit more love of the Cock.
And, let us all say, Pause.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Mar 10, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
of course we love the cock!
have you witnessed how wet that stroke is?
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by stingy d on Mar 9, 2010 8:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
what mean "pause"?
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by stingy d on Mar 9, 2010 11:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Youtube
Spike Lee and Pause for an introduction to “pause”…
i would youtube gus johnson before spike lee any day
everybody on posting and toasting licks the tip, no pause-mo.
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i don't think wil has the stones
he’s just one of those guys. sometimes he makes plays, sometimes he doesn’t. at least the pressure doesn’t bother him. wil just do what wil do, regardless.
now the cock, on the other hand, the cock has balls. and that is a very valued commodity in new york.
by latrell chokewell on Mar 9, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Good point
It’s the ballsiness of Gallo that titillates. I’ve gone back and forth between thinking Chandler is the more promising player, and thinking Gallo is. I’ve noticed that Chandler seems to get blocked or lose the ball when driving with the game on the line. But I suppose you could say that about Gallo too. Now that they both have game saving blocks this season, I’d say it’s a tossup. It seems Gallo is more likely to develop late game offensive daggerability, but maybe Chandler is and maybe neither are. But I like them both.
Gotta go back to
Naterob’s quote where he said Chandler is very Black and White while Gallo brings in some Color. Ironic how I called the white guy colored but its kinda like Spree and Houston back in the day except if their roles and talents were reversed.
I think gallo will be fine
its the dudes first full year in a new league in a new country.
Its natural for him to defer a little to the vets. I dont see it as a lack of killer instinct, but more too much respect for players that prob dont deserve it.
This seems like the right time to start pushing the rookies more. It made sense for Mike D to try to make one more run using the vets after the trade, but its clear we aint goin no where. Time for GhostFace to take a turn. I think he will impress. (I also think a full season of watching, occasional burn and lots of practice/studying is going to prove to be time well spent).
crawford is gonna get busy in the playoffs
watch out whoever gotta deal with him. he’s gonna fuck em up.
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it feels
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by Rohpuri on Mar 9, 2010 2:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
good to see the team win 3 games against the hawks.
also nice to see dwtdd get crunchtime minutes
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by Rohpuri on Mar 9, 2010 2:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I thought the scoreboard was broken
I kept noticing the scoreboard just shrinking our lead down, because the rooster was on fire and that was that. I was in the suite which was fantastic and caused me to be out sick from work today. And since theres no mike breen whining about shit, it was kind of slow to dawn on me that we were trying so hard to give this one away.
i swore the hawks won, the place went dead, but when D Lee let us all know the shot was no good that was it, felt like playoffs. chandler surprsied the shit out of me way up there, so josh smith must have crapped his pants
that was great frame by frame analysis of the play
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watching td dwtdd against the hawks
was beautiful. gallo looked good in the middle of that zone, too.
d’antoni doesn’t seem like he’s hopeless as a defensive schemer, and now i do wonder how his suns’ defensive rep would have been if anyone other than steve nash was locking down the opposition pg.
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with pace adjusted stats
the suns were actually smack dab in the middle of defensive efficiency.
so yea, put a tough defender at the point and you might find an impregnable defense.
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by stingy d on Mar 9, 2010 11:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
sergio flies up the court while mcgrady’s habit is to walk it up.
funny how d’antoni lets tmac play his game even though his game is so different to d’antoni’s system.
if tmac tenure in ny isn’t definate next season wouldn’t it be better to bring him off the bench? i feel gallo and mac’s roles overlap which is holding back gallo’s devlopment.
btw, jordan hill is looking good in houston.
houston?!?! puh-leeeease
those guys win 26 games a year. all they have is a bunch of overpaid, talentless, ego-driven basket hangers. of course that guy can show some real talent! he’s surrounded by nincompoops!
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by stingy d on Mar 9, 2010 11:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Gallo is going to become one of the centerpieces of the future knicks, hopefully together with somebody else….
gallo and chris bosh equals
atlantic division championship! given an injury riddled celtics 2011-2012 team!!!!!!!!
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