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David Lee interviews from Tanqueray's 200th Anniversary

Aside from his photo op with Snooki (because we live in a country where Snooki is more famous than David Lee), the free agent-to-be sat down with SLAM and blogger bro's from Project Spurs to talk about Nate Robinson in the Playoffs, Malik Rose's cheesesteaks, and, of course, the decisions he needs to make this offseason.

Some quotes after the jump.

Star-divide

From SLAM:

SLAM: I know you’ve heard this a lot all summer because you’re a free agent, but do you want to come back to the Knicks?
DL: I do, I love it here in New York. I love my time here. This point though, it’s a little bit of a business and we’ll have to see what happens. There’s a lot of factors and the biggest thing is what LeBron and DWade and those guys decide to do. All of us…

Right in the middle of his sentence, a waiter drops in.

Waiter: Can I interest anybody? [Offering a tray of tuna sushi]
DL: Yeah, I’d love one. Awesome. Would you (me) like one?
SLAM: Of course.
DL: First time during an interview I’ve been offered sushi. I like it. I think, um [still chewing], that’s the biggest thing — what those guys are gonna do. And all of us are gonna react from that.

From Project Spurs:

Recently, you had an interview where you said you feel like you can be, if you are not already, an elite player. You have the credentials to prove it. All-Star appearance, the numbers. Tell us more about your drive and what you can bring to the Knicks should they re-sign you or any other team you may end up with.

I think I've proven I'm a guy that's going to go out there and give total effort every single time I step on the floor. I been constantly improving my game. That's the biggest thing is that I think in this league you're either getting better or you're getting worse. Everybody is getting a year older every year but I try to improve at least one skill every single season. This past year was improving my mid-range jump shot and it's something I just want to get better and better each year. I know I am going to continue to do that and I think I'm going to be in the All-Star game year-in and year-out.

That's a goal and now the biggest thing is to be in a position where I'm going to be on a team that wins and a team that's a contender each and every year. I think that can be New York. I don't think being a "Plan B" is necessarily a negative when you are talking a person like LeBron James. I think at this point everybody in free-agency is a "Plan B" unless your name is LeBron. I'm really looking forward to this whole process. It should be fun!

Give them both a read and tell me I'm not the only one uneasy about his distant tone when referring to the Knicks organization as "they". July 1st is only eleven days away and it's about time to start worrying about one of our favorite Knicks.

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d-lee calling the knicks "they" is fine

my guess is that his eyes were opened to the reality of the business by being a RFA last year, and now he knows that he could really end up anywhere. obviously he still enjoys playing for the NY fans and loves the city – he just doesn’t want to get too disappointed if he ends up on some miserable team (i’m looking at you, Toronto).

i was actually more excited by his “you’re getting better or you’re getting worse” quote; maybe he’s gonna get even better, learn how to block shots or something. a world where d-lee is dropping 20-10-5 and getting 2 blocks a game for NY is a world that i want to live in!

by latrell chokewell on Jun 19, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

i think lee is gone no matter what

and it kills me. but either he signs outright with someone else. perhaps oklahoma, miami, maybe chicago. or he gets signed and traded somewhere, phoenix possibly. i’m not gonna act like i know for certain. but my gut tells me he is gone for one reason or another.

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by stingy d on Jun 19, 2010 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Wherever Lee goes

I wish him the best. I’m hoping he stays, but I agree with stingy..it just doesn’t seem that Lee’s gonna be a Knick next season. In fact, I gotta good feeling that Barsh is gonna be a Knick instead..and it kinda makes me sick.

I hope Lee goes to a good team and wins. As long as it ain’t the Celtics and to a lesser extent the Lakers, I’ll be rooting for Lee and his team except against the Knicks.

But until its over, I’m still holding out hope they think he’s part of the solution.

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 19, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he really wants to be here

but he isn’t sure if it’ll happen due to the Lebronathon. It’s a shame too, cause I hear peopl go on and on about he only puts up numbers cause the rest of the squad sucks but I think he could be a really strong contributor to a winning team.

 I would love it if that winning team could be us because if we let him walk and he ends up in the playoffs on some other team I’d be happy for him but at the same time sick to my stomach.

What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!

by Lord Smackington on Jun 19, 2010 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Lee fits the best with Lebron out of any of these other PF's

Bosh and Amare are basically Z-Bo’s with the ball…they’re black holes, albeit generally less boneheaded and more efficient. Boozer is somewhat more of a willing passer, but not great.

Lee is a very good passer for a big dude. Isn’t it all about fit? Couldn’t having 2 players like Lebron and Lee who are very good passers on the same team, make it a better one, even if the PG is someone like TD who isn’t exactly a “true point”?

It most definitely is gonna be sad if they get Lebron, but they turn down Lee in favor or Bosh or Boozer.

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 19, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea i agree

i’d like to keep lee. sign one max (and there’s only one). then grab a first rounder. and make strong offers to anthony morrow and perhaps rudy gay. and i’d stack up on second rounders to fill out the roster. then hope we can flip curry and chandler for a shit blocker. definitely not fixing that typo.

and i know some folks will hate this one, but i’d sign rafer alston, tim thomas and kurt thomas if they dig vet mins.

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by stingy d on Jun 19, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd go with Morrow over Gay

Morrow can hit the 3 while Gay is more of a slasher.

And of course, a ho hell of a lot cheaper

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 19, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

so would i. but would you be surprised if you could get both of them

for the price of one joe johnson?

gay is likely to block a shot every now and then.

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by stingy d on Jun 19, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

very true

both is not a bad thing. Tho with Walker hopefully retained, I don’t really see the point.

I would like to see Chan traded for a big dude tho. Maybe the Kings get another big in the draft and then want to trade one?

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 19, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe walker pushes that type of trade over the top though?

the more assets that don’t completely restrict you, the better.

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by stingy d on Jun 19, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

and it could be a reason they worked out Hobson all these times

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 19, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

hoping for armon johnson

i liked his interview on msg.com

even tho the reporters sound hella gay when they talk to him, or anyone really

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by stingy d on Jun 19, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly, yes i'd be surprised

some foolish team is going to give Gay a max deal this summer. probably the Clippers.

but i like the ideas though!

by latrell chokewell on Jun 19, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

unlikely yes...

but its not out of the question. If Joe Johnson can get a max deal, Gay may get it from some idiot team (hopefully not the Knicks)

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

And fuck Tim Thomas is his Tony Yano bandwagoning pie-hole...

but I agree on Reefer and Kurt “Serial Killer” Thomas

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 19, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

say what you want about tim thomas

but he fits the d’antoni system so very nicely.

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by stingy d on Jun 19, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

also i don't know about tim thomas and tony yayo

but how about lil b ripping joe buddens

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by stingy d on Jun 19, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL, Lil B

calls himself a pretty bitch; i can battle him and win lol, the dude had some of the worst lyrics ive ever heard

by Kupe on Jun 20, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

you take him seriously?

ya playin yaself

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by stingy d on Jun 20, 2010 6:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

HAHA

How bout Lil B writing that wack diss and apologizing hours later. “You pop shit, apologize n***a, just ask Kiss.”

Tim Thomas wouldnt be too shabby in Mike D’s system.

by JerzeeBalla on Jun 20, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually

The two times Thomas was here previously he didn’t do that bad, so long as the expectations are reasonable.

What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!

by Lord Smackington on Jun 21, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

you'z are right

Tim Thomas would be good.

Shit, if things go right, Al Harrington could be a good fit off the bench.

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 21, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

too far.

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by stingy d on Jun 21, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm going to give you my credit card information

i just can’t resist true religion jeans. snark.

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by stingy d on Jun 19, 2010 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm biased cuz I like home cookin'

Keep Lee. What also is somewhat alarming to me is that some of the guys that showed promise and effort last season are the guys who may see the bench more oft than not if we do fork out max’s. Now I do like Bosh over Amare, but I’d sure love to see what David can do if we pick up a solid Center. I also find it interesting that a year ago, WilChan was our biggest rising young star, and now is garbage heap and trade bait. If his ankle continues to be a long running problem, then I see chucking him, but I say give the dude another year. I do see the problem tho that we’re potentially overloaded with wing/Sf players. It looks like a slimmed down Walker might/should be primed as our shooting guard. But here’s a thought, say we did enter Fantasy world, got Johnson, Bosh (or kept lee) and Lebron…we just spent two years priming one hell of a bench.As always with David Lee, you’ll always love his work ethic and O-game, but if he can’t develop better defense, he’s a liability. God Bless Manute Bol and his family…classy dude, too young to go.

by screamedia on Jun 19, 2010 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

they ain't gonna get 3 of these dudes this year

unless they figure out some crazy ass sign and trades (Curry + Chan for Bosh?..ugh…)

The thing about Lee’s defense vs all these other PF’s, is that its marginal at best a difference. They’re all atrocious on that end.

But who would you rather hedge a bet on making themselves better at it? Amare? Bosh? Maybe Boozer can get better, he’s a hard worker..but I don’t think Boozer’s taller then 6"7 at best.

Lee is the cheapest (probably) and hardest worker among these guys. He’s also a great athlete too…there’s a reason he gets a lot of those boards.

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 19, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

if anyone else boxed out

it might make david look a little better on d. it would also help if the guards staed in front of their man. team defense is more important than individual defense. just look at ray allen being on the boston celtics. if you’re inspired to be good on defense, you will be.

on the other side of things, i’m not one who is looking to dump chandler. but he might be a good candidate to move. and i’m not really sold on anyone but lee and gallinari. everyone else, to me, is completely expendable (for the right price).

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by stingy d on Jun 19, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't underestimate a leader on the court

the Knicks didn’t have it last year..and I dunno if they ever did in Lee’s tenure here.

Garnett still makes the Celtics go. What was Pierce on defense before Garnett got there?

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 19, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

and the knicks

believe it or not, were led by jared jeffries and chris duhon. david lee is an awesome awesome awesome complimentary role player.

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by stingy d on Jun 19, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

astute assessment

we have alot of “maybe” pieces, I think a few of them could be patch worked together to get a solid performer. It won’t be easy but I think Walsh can get it done.

What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!

by Lord Smackington on Jun 21, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed...I want to keep Lee myself

I really don’t want 3 let alone 2. I was just “fantasizing” what would happen if that did happen. We’d most likely end up with Gallo, and the rest riding the bench for a few guys I don’t care too much about or for. I don’t like Bosh, like Amare even less, and tho I like Johnson, don’t really want him. I don’t like trash talkers who don’t back it up (Amare) or cry-babies who wilt under pressure (Bosh). Lee is a hard worker who generally keeps his mouth shut and strives to get better…I like that, especially if he works on his strength and positioning this summer. I did note he was starting to get a block a game towards the end of last season, or so it seemed – mostly cuz he was at PF with Earl in there. We were still bad, but this team showed promise. I see Lee and Gallo getting better, as well as Douglas and Walker, so yeah, Chan is an odd man out.

by screamedia on Jun 19, 2010 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

when eddy curry was playing well, all those years ago

david was a nonstop menace on the offensive glass, and every defensive board was unquestionably his.

word on the street is that he is working on his 3point range. if he can step out there and hit those with any type of regularity, you can forget about being able to guard this guy. except in the post.

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by stingy d on Jun 19, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Eddy Curry was back to the way he was a few years ago.......

…I’ve already gone too far..I’ma go smoke a bowl

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 19, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmmm

i just had sopresata and some sort of fennel salami with spicy,grainy mustard and fontina on a baguette!

i’m jumping forward in time…

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by stingy d on Jun 19, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i will now consume whiskey!

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by stingy d on Jun 19, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

marlowe and daughters

holding it down. get on your provisions game, my g.

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by stingy d on Jun 19, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish...

ain’t nothing like a NY pork store. Especially Brooklyn, tho there’s plenty good ones where I grew up on LI.

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 19, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

werd. i still remember how shocked i was during one game when lee was taking all those slower big men off the dribble from the arc and getting open layups. if he gets a three pointer he will no doubt be unstoppable on offense.

keeping lee is crucial. he can get 20 and 10 easy. if you put him and gallo together you already got alot of fire power on offense. with ONE max player adding more leadership and scoring, all you need is the right complimentary players. lee should not be seen as an extra. he will be everything anderson varejao could not be for lebron.

by karamjitm9090 on Jun 20, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

besides. how can you not root for the guy? the progress he has made is astounding.

the dude literally busted his ass for playing time and earned every penny of his paycheck. he reminded us of the knicks teams we all love. if we win a championship in a few years i dont give a fuck what a weeping lebron has to say. i wana say david fucking lee hold that trophy cuz we made this player and hes been with us through the thick and thin. this is why i want nate to be signed for the minimum to come off the bench next year.

by karamjitm9090 on Jun 20, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome comparison with Varejao.

Although Varejao defense is better albiet with much flopping, Lee is much better on Offense and would seem to be a better complement to LeBron because of it.

by Timmaht on Jun 21, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've been saying for years.

Anderson Verejao is bizarro David Lee. They are the exact same player, only one does it offensively and the other does it defensively.

by Osborn on Jun 21, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

and one of them gives girls boners

the other gives boner-girls slinky sex!

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by stingy d on Jun 21, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

good post, by the way, gian

all i want is to have this conversation.

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by stingy d on Jun 19, 2010 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't seem to shake this feeling that the Knicks

don’t really know what they have in David Lee. I dont think they really value him as they should. The only flaw we really ppoint out of his is his defense. Although, given that essentially no one on the team plays defense or does a good job helping Lee, that defensive flaw might be talked to be worse than it actually is.

I have this sinking feeling that NY is looking everywhere BUT in their on backyard on FAgency. And if we end up losing David Lee, it would probably be to a team that is a playoff contender already and we will find that Lee puts up the same numbers with his new team as he did in NY and will likely end up the catalyst to that team’s championship aspirations.

But if Walsh does indeed play his cards right and hold onto David Lee, I think it makes us a much better team and an easier one to root for. I also think Lee will continue to be fantastic for us too.

I really hope we don’t overlook him. The guy WANTS to stay here. And he is our BEST player and seemingly a great teammate. How could a team NOT want that? Especially from a guy who has improved significantly each year?

"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."

by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 20, 2010 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope we keep Lee

He will come cheaper than Amare or Bosh,and I think he is a better player than Amare for sure. Both aren’t great defenders but Lee can rebound MUCH better than him, and he actually scores better despite being less athletic. Bosh takes the cake over Lee but its not worth giving him a max when we can give Lee 4-6 mil less for doing the same job a little bit worse than Bosh. Donnie, listen up

by Kupe on Jun 20, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are YOU sayin?

Amare didn’t drop 42 on Kobe either. They don’t guard each other. And that was a single game too. Takes more than that to convince me. I won’t go as far to say Lee is better than Amare, but without question, he works harder and will be cheaper.

I’d like to have both of them though. Its in the realm of possibility too.

"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."

by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 21, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amare is ONE YEAROLDER then David Lee

Bosh is ONE YEAR YOUNGER

And Boozer is a who give a fuck.

What exactly are you trying to say?

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

One year OLDER

Amare is OLDER then Lee

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude put the drugs down

Amare is good but you gettin ur argument all twisted

What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!

by Lord Smackington on Jun 21, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The more we talk

The more Im drinking the kool aid. D Lee gives pretty much comparable production to Amare and Bosh, and we dont have to spend the max to retain him. It makes sense, especially when you consider his growth over his career. Bosh and Amare have pretty much been the same player from early on (except Amare developing a mid range jumper.) Lee has always been a great rebounder, but his handle, finishing ability, and jumpshot have all improved markedly since his rookie year. And expanding his role hasnt hurt his game at all. He was the go to guy last year and all he did was make the All Star game. That’s the kind of sidekick who’s perfect for a LBJ or Wade. Add Gallo in the mix and you got your so called Big 3. And that core with the right pieces could potentially contend for the next 4-5 years.

by JerzeeBalla on Jun 20, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

and as always...

get Lee someone to clean the glass with him, or at least man the block.

…maybe that’s Shaq?

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 20, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly it can be barron

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by stingy d on Jun 20, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

it could...

in fact…Shaq starting and getting 28-30 minutes a game and Barron playing the rest if fine for me.

That’s some night height in the rotation.

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 21, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have you noticed?

Shaq doesn’t do rebounding anymore.

by fuhry on Jun 22, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

not a problem.

basically..he’s there. That’s the point of Lee.

Lee was incredible when he was playing off Eddy Curry that one year..and Eddy sure as hell didn’t board anything.

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 22, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the right price....

I wouldnt mind Shaq. He isnt any worse than the others out there, and he can mentor the big man we (hopefully) draft at the very least. He doesnt need big minutes, but he can get the shooters open shots sometimes. Not the most ideal option, but for cheap why not?

by JerzeeBalla on Jun 21, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

to me

the biggest thing that separates these guys is david’s passing ability/willingness. bosh and amare have a tendency to hold the ball, because they consider themselves to be so awesome. david is quick to move the ball.

we always hear that good play is contagious. and i have felt, for a long time, that d’antoni needs good passers to run his offense. so…. if we have great passers at all positions, we’ll find the open shots, and thereotically make good plays, and further theoreticallyizing… we’ll play good and it will spread like a fungus.

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by stingy d on Jun 21, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Again I agree, David's has a better complimentary skill set

as compared to the other two, and Bosh more so than Amare. David’s not a centerpiece, he is a complimentary player, who, at the PF position, may become a “closer.” And alot of times, he never got the opportunity because guys like Al or Nate were hogging the ball and trying to do it all. What leans me towards David is the intangible in that we haven’t really seen what he can do in a set rotation as a power forward with a good center next to him, and an equally good ball handling SF, especially now that whatever starting rotation we put on the floor this year should have at least a 3 year shelf life. The attitude and atmosphere should be night and day now that guys won’t be feeling they’re on a 1-year plan. The attitude, teachability, upside, motor, ball-handling, intangibles, etc, these all are on David’s side, and I honestly can’t see paying more for Bosh and Amare.

by screamedia on Jun 21, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

i hope we're right!

if david adds 3 point shooting ability, say from the corner? suddenly we have that ever-coveted stretch four.

GOD DAMN I CAN’T WAIT FOR THIS TO END!!!!

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by stingy d on Jun 21, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't even see how any of these other 4's make a lick of sense.

Lee’s probably about $10 mill per isn’t he? The max per year is $16 mill isn’t it?

Wouldn’t Lee + a C (yea..even Shaq) be better then Bosh/Amare?

Lee + a C any fuckin day of the week.

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 21, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dead ON!

Heck – even HWSNBN isn’t the centerpiece of your defense…he’s a scorer/facilitator on offense, and complimentary on defense, much the same as DLee, we need a clog in the middle who isn’t a clog on the offense…when Curry did come in those few games last year, the offense lost its flow and that’s why he went back to the bench…I remember everyone complaining about it last year. Shaq isn’t the same player he used to be…but that’s also a good thing attitude wise. Shaq plus Barron plus Lee may be a good thing where we can draft another PG and SG like Randle and Dominique Jones or pull Varnado of course for his defense addition.

by screamedia on Jun 21, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny side note -to me anyway

HWSNBN is what they called the Mummy in the first Mummy movie…

by screamedia on Jun 21, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

amd there's always the Eddy Curry factor

the Knicks have not had one single veteran big man that could ever mentor Eddy Curry.

We got Herb Williams as a coach…but that’s it.

Curry’s still gonna be on the squad. Maybe Shaq could slap the fuck out of Eddy and knock some sense into him?

Wishful thinking as any wish can get, but it can’t hurt to have Shaq in Curry’s ear, of course if Eddy’s healthy.

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 21, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i bet lee can get 13-15 from us

thats STILL a few million less than bosh and amare, both of whom exhibit clear flaws, and theoretically need a defensive stopper next to them on the front line.

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by stingy d on Jun 21, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

even if Lee is 12-13 mill

Shaq if he really is legit about saying he’s only going to where Lebron is going…they should be able to fit him + Lee + Lebron+ others, much easier then they’d fit Lebron+ Bosh/Amare + Shaq + others.

ITs a better overall team with Lee involved. Simple fact as that, since they could add one more piece.

And yea, including Barron of course, but havign Shaq plus a dude as active as Lee, is a killer frontcourt.

And remember Gallo can/is willing to guard anyone, so if he’s gotta be the "starting 2-guard in a lineup of TD, Lebron, Gallo, Lee and Shaq….I don’t see how exactly that’s a big problem.

Shaq will cover the lane better then 80% of the C’s in the NBA too (albeit for a short period of time), so that’s not as big a problem either.

And then you got the Earl Barron, hopefully Chan still, Bully, maybe Giddens, Kyle Lowry or maybe Raefer Alston off the bench (or maybe one starts over TD?) and maybe Tyrus Thomas.

I think there’s room for a Tim THomas or something like that in there too.

Lebron instantaneously makes the team a contender, I think most can get with that. Keeping Lee is the best way to get an elite complementary player and then add an extra piece or 3, instead of signing a marginally better player like Amare or Bosh.

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 21, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

And in the all-star game, Bosh wanted to hit that big ‘ice it’ shot in the end, and couldn’t do it, wouldn’t pass it, and almost blew the game. I know that if Lee was in the game he would have either a)Actually hit that big shot or b) passed it to one of his fellow all-stars.

by fuhry on Jun 22, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope they sign D. Lee long term

so I can buy my first Knicks jersey. I’d buy his jersey over LeBron’s just based on the fact that it would be so common if he did sign with the Knicks.

by Timmaht on Jun 21, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

i think you should get

a bill walker jersey

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by stingy d on Jun 21, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

a D'Antoni throwback??

hmmm

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by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 21, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

resign dlee.. bring in barron :) those guys plus curry will take up the frontcourt

bring in lebron.. him and chandler will take up SF

move gallo to the 2guard.. keep bill walker.. toney douglas.

in the draft pick up a G and another big man.. and thats the team :)

barron lee lebron gallo douglas
   curry chandler walker
   38th pick 39th pick

it would be nice to trade curry and chandler for a good big man and than with the remaining money sign a nice starting guard and a depth guy

Barron, Lee, Lebron, Gallo, GUARD
BIG MAN, Walker, Douglas
38th pick ©, 39th pick (SF), depth guy

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Jun 21, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

What's the deal with Tyson Chandler?

Dude is going to opt out of his contract and he’s exactly the type of guy who would play well alongside Lee. Next year will be his second after a major injury, which is often a way to get undervalued assets. He prob won’t average 12 and 12 like he did in 07-08, but I think he’ll be way better than last year.

I know a lot of people will be opposed to this, but I think he’s a guy you can with with and pair with Lee.

"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy

by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 21, 2010 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

in theory, yes absolutely

but this is a guy who just played 51 games this year and played less minutes then Shaq.

Not to mention, he’s gonna cost a whole lot more then Shaq, TyChan will not be cheap…no chance he will be.

I don’t think he makes much sense, unless he’s gonna be real cheap (which I doubt). Too injury prone.

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 21, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Chandler, but yeah, Hes a thin version of Eddy Curry

Good guy, but staying healthy is a real challenge for him.
People knocked New Orleans for moving him for Okafor, but really, I know they did it because Chandler twists an ankle and sits for 2 weeks at least. Okafor hasn’t been putting up numbers to justify his contract, but hes still in the game and not on the bench. Maybe Monty will help him find some consistency.

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by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 21, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chandler can rebound and play a little D

Much different than Eddy Curry though. Injury prone, though, I’ll give you that.

by fuhry on Jun 22, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

will he take like 6 mil?

i wouldn’t want to play him more than like 25 mins a game.

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by stingy d on Jun 21, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tyson Chandler is cool, but the dude is a straight "Q."

A “Q” is useless without a “U.” You can spell like, three fucking words without the other letter. Tyson Chandler needs an elite passer, a “U,” in order to be successful as a “Q.”

But if you get both? Triple Word Score.

by Osborn on Jun 21, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

qat

qis

u right.

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by stingy d on Jun 21, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like Chandler is more of a "Put a team over-the-top" type dude.

The reason he was effective a couple years ago offensively was because Chris Paul’s alley-oops and tear-drops made it impossible to guard both in the pick-and-roll. He was effective defensively because Chris Paul is a defensive genius and funneled opposing guards perfectly onto Chandler’s block, where they would subsequently party all night.

Seriously, the guy needs a lot of other shit around him to be effective, and he’s got a lot of broken, bruised, twisted miles on those stilt-legs. But at his best, he’s an elite post defender, shot-blocker and a potential nuisance on the offensive end with the right weapons around him. A lot of "if"s, and a lot of risk. But with David Lee’s shooting and passing, he could drag guys from the basket and Chandler could grab put-backs. He’s "Q"uite good at that.

by Osborn on Jun 21, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea

I mean I think his true value his somewhere in between his Paul years and his injury-riddled years. Where he falls on the spectrum is definitely based on who’s playing the 1 and since the Knicks have questions there, who knows if he’d be worth it. I really brought him up because I want a legit big man if we resign Lee Lee. Tice isn’t exactly the most desirable option, but I do think you can win with him. Even serviceable bigs are at a premium in the league.

I agree that his injuries/miles are a concern, but he’s only 27 and I think he’s a bounceback candidate if he’s healthy. Big if, but the other options at 5 are pretty bad. My other dude, Nenad Kristic, has a team option that the Thunder might not pick up if they plan to start Ibaka, but that might be wishful thinking too. Otherwise, we’re lookin at Haywood (overpriced), Shaq(yuck), Z(too old). Jermaine O’Neal (yuck), and Mahinmi (interesting and cheap, but limited).

Lee at the 5 obviously didn’t work so well last year. If we resign him and want to be competitive, we prob need a real 5. Tyson might not be the answer, I just think he looks like a relatively palatable option given the crop we’ve got to choose from.

"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy

by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 21, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ad just for the record..

that was a typo. I don’t call him Lee Lee.

"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy

by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 21, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd rather tyson chandler

than anderson varejao. not that thats an option. but same type of player tho, right?

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by stingy d on Jun 22, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Basically, the only thing Chandler is significantly better at is "height."

Anderson V. is awesome. I might be the only non-cavsfan in the world who can admit it. He’s disgusting looking, and is probably very annoying. Plus, he probably stinks. But he is so goddamn fucking valuable.

Whatever. Comparing players is so subjective anyway. But yeah, despite all the shit I just said, I agree with you, they’re a very similar type of player.

by Osborn on Jun 22, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd go Varejao too

He’s easy to hate, but extremely effective. I don’t think he’s as big a deterrent on the defensive end in terms of what you said before about having a guy you can funnel penetrating guards toward, but he’s a better overall defender and player. I think GMs know this too. He’ll prob be more $.

"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy

by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 22, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, what I'm saying is:

-David Lee is going to be able to shoot the corner 3-pointer this year; the most important shot in today’s NBA cliche’d!).
-Earl Barron, if resigned, is a capable jump-shooter and cleans glass proficiently.
-Gallinari is auto-aim from the wing three
-Bill Walker is, knock on wood, still excellent from the other wing three
-If those guys are there, what does that do for Douglas’s driving lanes?

Let’s not sign anyone. Let’s just play that team with no back-ups.
I’d watch that shit every night.

by Osborn on Jun 21, 2010 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

so would i

here’s to the highest hopes of not really signing anyone! i could totally deal.

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by stingy d on Jun 21, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Addition by subtraction...

Can’t tell if you’re 100% serious or not… but that starting 5 mentioned (with the removal of Harrington and Duhon from stealing minutes, shots and roles) would push for a playoff spot easy. And WilChan as 6th man off the bench is nice too.

Now… that might mean an 8 Seed and a first round steamrolling… but it’s homegrown and so damn easy to root for.

The problem is… it won’t happen since we have so much cash available. Way too many fans would view this summer as a complete failure if we have that starting 5 in the Fall. But I know I’d be happy with it and using the cash to add depth and go 10 deep in games to simply wear opponents out. 7SOL would be easy with that squad.

by Zhantee on Jun 22, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

i go 10 deep

in bitches

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by stingy d on Jun 22, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

wink?!

II

Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do

by semsemma on Jun 22, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about

If we signed LBJ (16.5 mil), resign D-Lee (11 mil), then signed Raymond Felton for like 5 mil? Or maybe use that extra cap space to get a guy like Joel Pryzbilla who’s a free agent. Dude can clog up the lane and block shots. Screw Eddy Curry. Our lineup:

PG – Felton/Douglas
SG – Gallo/Walker
SF – LBJ/Chandler
PF – D Lee
C – Barron

or

PG – Douglas
SG – Gallo/Walker
SF – LBJ/Chandler
PF – Lee
C – Pryzbilla/Barron

by WSD on Jun 23, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

i like the cut of your internet jib

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by stingy d on Jun 23, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Felton i wouldn't mind, but he wont be had for only $5Mil

as for Pryzbilla, well, he is kinda majorly hurt right now. Knee surgery last season then a month later he reinjured it and had to have another surgery on the same knee.

If you are tired of Eddy Curry, I wouldn’t recommend bringing on Joel. He is probably going to be a FA for a loooooong time.

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by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 23, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

but yea

przberzerylliazerz little pryzplexing going forward.

SHAQ SHAQ SHAQ!

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by stingy d on Jun 23, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll never be sold on Shaq

Not at this point in his career. Didn’t know all of that about Pryzbilla but since Portland has two centers now, I doubt they’ll look to keep him. Could be worth a shot. I Think Felton could possibly be had at 5 mil if it meant playing in a system like D’antoni’s, in NYC, with Lebron. Regardless of what free agents we sign this summer, I’m hoping for Felton. Blake or Ridnour would be nice too

by WSD on Jun 23, 2010 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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