The Knicks have first round aspirations.
by Seth on Jun 22, 2010 10:00 AM EDT
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PrintWe've heard for a while that Donnie Walsh and friends were interested in buying or trading into the first round on Thursday. An actual transaction likely won't take place until draft night (as the Toney Douglas purchase did last year), but Frank Isola of The Daily News has what he believes to be the short list of first round targets.
The Knicks are looking to trade into the first round of Thursday's draft to select one of three players, including Maryland guard Greivis Vasquez, a team official told the Daily News late Monday.
The club is debating between Vasquez, Iowa State power forward Craig Backins and New Mexico small forward Darington Hobson. Brackins had a strong workout with the Knicks, who see him as a legitimate 3-point threat.
Note that Isola specifically invokes the notion of a "trade" for an earlier pick. Dealing an actual live human being probably wouldn't be necessary to move up, so I assume the "trade" referred to is merely a duffel bag of cash for a draft pick. Each of the three mentioned could fall as far as 38, but the Knicks will start wheeling and dealing if they sense that an earlier team covets their target. The Grizzlies, Thunder, and Nets each have multiple selections in the late first and early second rounds, so those could be willing trade partners. Meanwhile, Isola mentions the Bulls (17) as a club willing to move its pick, which would be a whole different ballgame. A shot at 17 would put the Knicks well into the running for Eric Bledsoe, Larry Sanders, Ekpe Udoh, and others who are considered surefire first-rounders.
All told, the rumors foreshadow another busy, unpredictable draft night. Stay vigilant.
Update: Tommy Dee also points out that the Heat are looking to sell at 18.
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At this point
I’m actually wondering what the odds are on one of the staff at P&T Towers being drafted…
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shoulda went back to school.....
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 22, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
WTF!
Since she of her husband ain’t here to defend her, Ya mon’s got a big head!! NOW, let’s keep your non-sports related shit off the site! YOU, mr. Shaw, and YOU Mr. Casimiro! And anyone else who want to talk politics!! PUNK Assholes!!
Huh? Wow. Everything ok here?
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by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 22, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
whoa
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by Lord Smackington on Jun 22, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't tell if it's a black thing, Obama thing, or just an unhealthy facsination with foreheads
I’m really dying to know what that was about!?!?
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
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by Lord Smackington on Jun 22, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
lawl
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Jun 22, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
¿Que?
"If it ain't broke, don't break it." -Charles Oakley
by Tony Marciano on Jun 22, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh oh
The MSG draft crowd always boos the Italian picks . . .
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jun 22, 2010 12:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm not big on Brackins.
For some reason I keep getting bizarre flashbacks haunted by Al Harrington.
buyyyy myyyy reaaasonably priced shoooooesss
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Jun 22, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Rumors
Rumors are always fun, rarely reliable. But I’ve seen Miami might be willing to sell it’s pick (which surprised me).
Also, a recent mock has us taking two names I barely recognize and haven’t seen mentioned here (Lawal from GT and Raduljica from overseas) while passing on Alabi, Randle and Torrance… all whom are mostly looked at favorably here.
Again, all rumors… but I think those two picks would see more boos than cheers Thursday night. I dunno if I’d be too thrilled either.
Any overseas C scares me...
call it the Weis effect.
I seen that too
I don’t like either. Both seem like wasted picks, or at least they seem that way if they’re the Knicks only 2 picks.
They trade up into the first and land Brackins/Armon/Vazquez, and then get Lawal and Raduljica..that’s fine.
I’m in favor of drafting a Euro dude and stashing him overseas..as long as they get at least one or possibly 2 players who can contribute now.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 22, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Vasquez is a 1st rounder....
I wouldn’t mind having him on the squad, but don’t think you need to trade up to get him…
I always liked Brackins but am getting more and more intrigued as d day approaches. Hope DW can pull something off to get him…
i like brackins
He seems the type of guy that DA covets in this system.
But one things scares me is that ive heard nothing about how good/bad his defense is.
2 more days…im ready for a splash.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
i think i heard
his defense is of the matadorian variety
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Not a great write up on him
still would like to have him….seems like he may have had problems being the central focus of point production this year at Iowa…..sounds like a work in progress tho, especially on D
read that and
dx’s… they both kind of sound the same. I would like brackins..but iono about trading up mid 1st for him. Id rather have WHITESIDE
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
also tho
he was a good rebounder in college. and that is one category that stays true to form going to the lig.
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good rebounder
and knows how to score in the paint (said it before dude just has a knack of making the ball go in like Amare seems to have).
Not saying he’ll ever be Amare, but Amare is a fan of the matadors too
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 22, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
If we can get
a legit first round pick for cash and second rounders, that would be sick, but a selling team would have to be pretty desperate to accept that offer. That seems kinda light to me, no?
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by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 22, 2010 10:57 AM EDT reply actions
In an exchange I had with Tom Ziller
he said that it might be smarter to buy the very early 2nd round picks since the contracts aren’t guaranteed and wouldn’t count towards the cap until they sign. Makes sense, though all the names that the team seems to want keep moving up.
well if we can get into the extended lottery
ie 18…. i think thats valuable. seems like the first 8 or so guys getting drafted are pretty much set. but the next 10-15 guys could all go anywhere in the middle picks. i know we don’t normally get lucky here in new york. but maybe we could luck out and get a top talent that dropped to 18
DEMARCUS COUSINS!!!!!!! HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! dude is totally dropping to 18
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He and Eddy Curry would eat everything at the concession stands.
by gian casimiro on Jun 22, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
With Big Eddy's contract expiring after this year...
we’ll need to groom our next Knick Pork Chop, and I’d prefer the Bully to keep the weight off rather than “filling” that role.
I heard Cousins had a good workout for the Kings
he probably posted that stationary chair the fuck up.
I hope that if they’re looking for a tall fat fucker, that Tiny Gallon is that dude. After all, he shot over 40% on 3pters.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 22, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
plus his name is Tiny Gallon
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
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by Lord Smackington on Jun 22, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
word.
I ain’t never had a Tiny Gallon before.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 22, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
there
and in jersey. They say he outperformed favors but i doubt they draft cousins. Hes a nba center.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
I googled him to see how fat he was and found this video
by gian casimiro on Jun 22, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
coolest thing all day
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
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by Lord Smackington on Jun 22, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Please Already
If he is a fat fuck like you say. Why was he first team All Amercian, average a Double-Double and only played 22 minutes a game?
Free me Bradshaw!
Now take a dep breath and root for tghe Knicks to get a top 18 pick so we can get KING SOLOMON ALABI to play center.
Can you dig it baby!
KING SOLOMON GRABS TWENTY REBOUNDS KNICKS CHAMPIONSHIP
OUCH
NOT KING JAMES AS ONE MIGHT THINK.
HAH! HAH! BABY!
This is almost getting as weird as the Luis Scola stalker
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
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by Lord Smackington on Jun 22, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
hey not all mothers are fuckers!!!
THATS racist!
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by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 23, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Not opposed to SolAbi
BUT, Dominique Jones over Lance ANY day if it were possible. I’m not too sure Lance would be ready to run in D’Antoni’s system yet, but I guess he really wouldn’t have to for a year. D. Jones is either gonna get drafted high or be overlooked, making him available. I think he fits better given we’ve got good jump shooters already and dude gets to the line.
Whats stopping us from trading with Detroit and drafting Cole Aldrich?
Really though, hes got a haircut like Bryant Reeves. I think we should target him because Reeves was a beast for a few games in the NBA!!
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by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 23, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
for sure
this seems like the best move. talent wont change drastically either. Wasting a first rounder on vasquez or hobson seems like a blunder though. Maybe the knicks solely want brackins, but dont want to pull a steph curry and proclaim it to the whole world only to have him stolen by draft thieves. just a thought. Im not opposed to vasquez or hobson at 38-39 though, pending on who’s left. Unless it’s torrance of course. Anyone else have a soft spot in their cold heart for a particular player that the knicks should move on?
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by Ray Smuckles on Jun 22, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Hassan Whiteside/Larry Sanders
Get ’er done.
by HanginfromtheGallo's on Jun 22, 2010 2:32 PM EDT reply actions
Griz and Wolves trading picks
16 for 25 28. Wolves will most likely sell them, Knicks could be in play for one.
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Bledsoe/TD backcourt?
Makes me all giggly. Although picking up Vasquez would be a very good pick too, especially in the early 2nd round.
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Jun 22, 2010 5:26 PM EDT reply actions
zackly
got the skirt too
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Jun 24, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
well, the source is marc berman...
so i wouldn’t get my hopes up. but, to me, this would be the absolute best player WE can get.
http://www.fromthebaseline.com/news-mainmenu-2/2123-knicks-target-amon-johnson-in-draft
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seen that too
I likes it.
Armon and Brackins..one, both…I’d either have a half or full hard on if it happened.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 23, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Is anyone else hearing these rumors:
The Knicks are reportedly getting antsy in their pursuit of LeBron James, so there’s rumors that they’re chasing some big names ahead of July 1 to sex up their pitch to The King. Richard Hamilton is the first rumor. A draft night deal for the shooting guard is the latest buzz. The Knicks would take on three years and $38 million.
Knicks do a sign-and-trade and send Lee to Phoenix for Barbosa. Barbosa is owed $7.1 million this year and has a $7.6 million player option for next year.The Suns guard is said to be bait to get David Lee to Phoenix if Amar’e Stoudemire doesn’t re-sign with Phoenix.
We HAVE heard this rumor tho:
The Knicks have been rumored to be after Tony Parker for some time, and with George Hill coming on in San Antonio, Parker is seen as expendable with his $13.5 million only on the books for 2010-11.If the Knicks offered up their second-round picks this year and a future pick, this may be doable.
I cut and paste these btw….not my words…my initial reaction? I HOPE not…except for the Parker deal, I don’t like these rumors
and i've not heard them.
a source would be nice, you propogandist.
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LOL...
I’m not one of these guys that makes shit up….
I wouldn't hate the Hamilton trade..depending on who and what's involved of course.
Barbosa…..I hate that idea.
Parker’s OK I guess.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 23, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Hamilton, but ever since Detroit decided to move Billups rather than Hamilton
the team has really come apart. And Hamilton has not been the leader they probably hoped he would be when they moved Chauncey.
So based on that, and the size of his contract, I’m more than skeptical with obtaining him.
It has the aura of the Knicks yet again getting a guy who has already peaked and is or will soon be on the downward angle, but still getting peak $$.
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by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 23, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Lee for Barbosa?
That is the most idiotic IMO. Parker for 2 seconds and a first next year……Nah. Trading for Rip? Not with that contract. He’s not worth it anymore unless Im missing something.
So, nay, nay and nay.
what about if its Eddy Curry and a 2nd for Rip?
Curry’s $10(?) mill, expiring..something I’d think the Pisstons would want. Only to take on an extra 2 mill for a solid scoring 2-guard (..ahem…kinda like the Knicks version of Ray Allen in the Big 3).
if its a pure salary dump..or it includes WillChan, I say no.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 23, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
for some reason
i dont like the parker deal.Not for what he’ll be paid anyways.
rip…uhh…isnt he old? but he seems like a good old natural 2G. Sounds good at first…let me do soome research..
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
I don't like the Parker deal...
if the goal is as stated by the Post and Yahoo sports and we’re going after Armon Johnson. We absolutely need another point guard and he could fill the bill while not taking away from letting TD DWTDD. Rip’s a fav of mine, and he’s productive when he’s in there generally, but it does seem a high price to pay for a big question mark in durability. My only “rip” on Rip, is for as inefficient as he can be at 3pt shooting, I wish he’d get to the line more than he does. It’s really hard to peg FA’s this year cuz each one comes with a question mark…other than the top 2. No to Barbosa, again, would rather have Johnson if that’s our draft goal, and hopefully we round out the draft with a serviceable biggy. I’m not a Pittman fan so much cuz of his weight, but under that fat is a hulk of an athlete. If he could get into good shape he could be steal…maybe even Zoubek. There’s just no solid surefire big in our range, especially if we’re going after Johnson in the first. This is gonna be a crazy draft, and by looking over any # of top mocks comparatively, nobody knows what the heck’ll happen.
hamilton blows dicksies
he’s good if you need a guy who can hit a mid range jumper. but we already have wilson chandler, who is better in every way imaginable. hamilton’s contract is the same as curry’s has been for the past 10 years or however long its been.
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Guh.
Yo I still trust Donnie, but when he shit like this gets rumored, like with Grant Hill and Kidd last year, it freaks me out.
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by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 23, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
You know if you say Isola with an Italian accent is sounds like a curse word that starts with A ends in whole.
Some draft boards have Whiteside falling to the late teens-early twenties, where some teams (like Miami) are said to be selling their pick to save the money in their free agency war chest.
Why the hell use a pick like that on anyone but a Center that averaged like 5.4 blocks per game in collage last season? Last I checked NYK needed a center right? A Center that can play defense, not an all offensive center from Europe either!
I will be very disappointed if NYC passes on Whiteside, if they get a shot at drafting him, and does not draft Vernado. Both players averaged over 4 blocks per game last year, if that translates to the NBA, then NYC has a front court that might just corral the two-time defending champs.
This rumor, and its’ worthless so-called writer get a Pringles punch for their foolishness!
It’s LeBRON, not LeBrAHHHn, Chris Broussard you Rick Brunson rippoff!!
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