Draft Day 2010
by Seth on Jun 24, 2010 10:27 AM EDT
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PrintGood morning, weasels! Do you smell magic in the air? Are you quivering in anticipation? Did you awake this morning with a pant full of bone? The reason is clear: it's Draft Day 2010. The Knicks' summertime transformation begins today, with at least some of the offseason speculation meeting reality. Without a doubt, there will be new faces on the roster by night's end. That's always exciting.
I'm here in New York City trying to capture as much of the Draft Day hysteria as I can. Yesterday was media day, a very pleasant event that, alas, held absolutely zero Knicks relevance. This being the case, I spent the majority of my time cheesing with Liberty Ballers' Mike Levin (whose excellent account of the event is well worth a read), finally meeting SBNfriends Mike Prada and Tom Martin, and catching up with our old friend Tommy Dee. Other than that, I used my media credential to box out legitimate reporters, almost drop my voice recorder on Wesley Johnson's head, and gaze longingly at Gordon Hayward. Perhaps the only thing I learned was that Paul George's parents are named Paul and Paulette. There's your scoop.
Today should be even more fun and quite a bit more relevant to our perverted little community. The Knicks, of course, hold the 38th and 39th picks in the draft. They'll also be looking to trade into the first round, though the target of such a deal is anyone's guess. We've heard Greivis Vasquez, Craig Brackins, and Armon Johnson are all targets. Darington Hobson's weird, wonderful name keeps coming up. They could still be reaching for a sure first-rounder like Eric Bledsoe or Larry Sanders. Meanwhile, the assets necessary to snaggle an earlier pick aren't quite clear. Will it take cash, picks, or perhaps actual sentient lifeforms to move up in the draft? Only time will tell.
Gian, Osborn, and I will do our darndest to keep up with the news and rumors, chew them up, and regurgitate them for your tender little beaks to enjoy. Lend us a hand scouring the news if you so please. Again, if any of you are planning on attending the draft, don't hesitate to contact me on the emails or the Twitters. I'm not sure if I'll be sitting amongst the media or in the crowd during the event, but I'll probably be in the area early in the evening.
This is the thread for all pre-draft excitement, opinions, and insight. There will be another thread for the draft itself, and likely some individual posts throughout to highlight any transactions. I'm off to get some pre-draft falafel to guarantee some mid-draft farts.
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No Zoubek
I saw something saying that we’re interested in him with one of our 2NDs… but I want noooo part of it. Please. They’ll be better options still available IMO.
But yes, most definitely lookin’ forward to the fun today (rumors) and tonight (draft).
Why Seth the Guy is 7'1 260 lbs can rebound and defend.
has a great work ethic and is coachable. I wouldn’t climb on the ledge if they took him with the 39th pick.
by Robert Currence on Jun 24, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait what?
It’s LeBRON, not LeBrAHHHn, Chris Broussard you Rick Brunson rippoff!!
big Z, Gortat, pau, amundson, scalabrine
..mattbonner? regardless, it seems like a ton of playoff teams have a token tall honkey, or TTH.
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Jun 24, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
gotta say it depends
I agree, Zoubek isn’t exactly an intriguing dude.
But he can run, is tall and well..he just seems like he knows what he’s doing out there.
All a that, while it doesn’t seem that you’re getting a great player…it also doesn’t seem like he’s gonna be a bust, and more importantly..what he brings is something the Knicks could really use.
Seems like he could be what we all wished Darko could’ve been for us (less athletic of course, but more brains)
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 24, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
If we end up with him...
I’ll just go with it and hope you’re right. I just think the guys that’ll be left at 38/39 will still have a higher upside than he does and I’d rather go that way. I’m happy to hear someone saying he might work out well tho for us even if I disagree.
But again, I’d at least try and give the guy a chance if we go that direction.
You maybe right
But upside, usually does not translate into immediate on the court contribution. Zoubek could step in right now, and give us probably 20 mins a night, guard the rim, play post up defense and crash the boards.
by Robert Currence on Jun 24, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you're right, Currence
‘Upside’ and ‘Athleticism’ are overrated. I think there are certain guys that have skills and are smart enough to figure out how to do something good on the basketball court. Zoubek may well be a decent backup center, who can rebound and defend the 5 servicably. That’s a great thing to get in the second round.
All the athleticism and upside in the world won’t help if you don’t have a clue of how to do things on the court that help your team win. I don’t know about Zoubek, but if he has a good attitude and works hard to improve, he could be useful. He got offensive rebounds at a huge rate in college. That might not work quite as well in the NBA, but it should still work somewhat. The Knicks need rebounding and a guy that can size up against big centers – just as a rotational piece.
ive wanted donnie
to reach with one of the 2nd rounders, and to get someone a little more down to earth with the other.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
I'd want Zoubek
I think everyone forgets that like 10% of the 2nd round picks are even in the league after 2 years. Zoubek has legit height, can rebound, set screens and foul the shit out of opposing big men. I think theres room in the league for that.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 24, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly.
I don’t think there’s really anything about Zoubek that says he’s not gonna at least be a backup C. Of course, I don’t think he’s gonna be great..but that’s OK in a 2nd rounder
I see him as a Gortat, a Pryzbilla type dude.
Works hard…I just can’t see whoever drafts him not hitting.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 24, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Great points. Good thing about Zoubek is...
…he knows his role. He doesn’t demand the ball at all. He does all the dirty work (rebounds, defends, hustles, etc.). He’s a great rebounder (phenomenal offensive rebounder) and really started to turn it on for Duke towards the end of the year. He’s been limited during his years at Duke due to injuries, so we could have been seeing the true Zoubek at the end of the season. I’d rather have him over Jerome Jordan.
by HanginfromtheGallo's on Jun 24, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Y'all are starting to sway me...
please stop. ;-)
Yeah, I mean nothing against a guy like Zoubek
If we miss out on the other guys we are targeting, then yeah, I’d be ok with selecting him. He is a smart player, not afraid to get dirty, and wont come to the team with an ego. For whatever reason I feel like he could even surprise people in a way that Brook Lopez did his rookie year. He certainly won’t do it statistically, but a lot of people expected Lopez to flop and do nothing.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 24, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
everyone needs a 7 foot playing C
who does the dirty work.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
i respectfully agree with your point, sir
it’s not like a 7 footer has to set the world on fire to be sucessful. if he fills a gortat/pryzbilla role for the knicks, i would be fine with the pick.
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Jun 24, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sold!
You had me at hardworking 7 footer.
Now when was the last time the Knicks had that? No I do not count David Lee as a center!
It’s LeBRON, not LeBrAHHHn, Chris Broussard you Rick Brunson rippoff!!
Nor do I count him as 7 feet tall
But he is quite hardworking.
I’m having a hard time thinking of any 2nd round 7-footers who WEREN’T projects. While you can’t teach height, I’m not sure Zoubek doesn’t have “Mike Gminski” written all over him. Minus that sweetass beard. (sidenote: I had one of those “Stars of the NBA” posters back in the mid-80’s, and nearly every picture of an NBA star dunking had Gminski standing there, on the floor looking up at the rim. It was the most posterized a human being could be.)
Well
he works hard keeping himself on the floor so he can work hard on offense and rebounding. He works to avoid foul trouble defensively. I would still like to see him paired with a good defensive 5.
thats true
he would def be a lot better with a real center but I just don’t see the defensive intensity that i see in all teh playoff teams.
hey bradshaw
lets move the monta discussion here… everyone else how about it? i read something this morning saying GS was packagin Montas salary with the 8th pick. would you do it and what do you think it owuld cost. for this to make any sense for us curry has to go the other way so we’ll start with that
yea..
they dumped Maggette already, so maybe they won’t be so quick to do that deal.
Still…Chandler kinda fits them, Curry gives them cap relief and they can do what they want with the 2 2nd rounders. It kind of makes sense for them.
I can’t think that any more then that makes any sense to give up for the Knicks, but is that all the Warriors want for that?
Love to get the 8th pick this year. The possibility that Greg Monroe falls to the Knicks would make my hymen explode.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 24, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
and the salaries would virtually be a wash. currys 11 mil would cancel out ellis 11 mil and the knicks would gain a shit ton more production. chandlers money would be around the same as a pick that high also. two max deals would still be possible if im not messing up something there
by BronxBeliever on Jun 24, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
a backcourt of TD and ellis would give us a hell of an offensive punch without even considering what we get off the market
by BronxBeliever on Jun 24, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
to be one pick in front of utah
would be hilariously sweet.
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I heard it, but I'm not buying
Monta Ellis himself would likely require a hefty price. Getting the 8th pick would require a hefty price as well. The Warriors have loads of young talent, and even if they are about to change owners, they aren’t a stupid team. We would absolutely need a combination of picks, expirings, and players to get that package if we want it.
Its easy for us to include Curry and our 2nd Rounders and Chandler (who as much as i love, IS expendable since we will likely have a few SG/SFs on our team). But how attractice is that to Golden State really? They could just KEEP Monta Ellis and his huge scoring ability, and in a deep draft, there will certainly be an excellent player to draft 8th.
GS may be listening to offers for Monta Ellis and even their 8th pick, but the Knicks don’t have the pieces unless we are willing to part with Gallinari, which we are not.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 24, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed. i cant argue that we dont have the pieces. our only hope is that they are more financially strapped then they are letting on giving them more motivation to move ellis long term deal. i would make the deal just for ellis— chandler curry and 1 of the 2nd rounders
by BronxBeliever on Jun 24, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
monta ellis would not require a hefty price. he is the heft price for the # 6 pick. nobody wants him cause all he can do is score inefficiently and he has a huge contract
by thePharcyde on Jun 24, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
but would you rather have him scoring inefficiently along with the #6 pick or curry sitting on the bench another year? i would take ellis and the pick because if things go according to plan he will only be a 2nd or hopefully third option for the same price as curry
by BronxBeliever on Jun 24, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
They turned Jamal Crawford into Acie Law and Speedy Claxton. Then Stephen Jackson into Raja Bell and Vladimir Radmanovic. Then turned Corey Maggette into Charlie Bell and Dan Gadzuric. I think only Radmanovic and the newly acquired Bucks are still on the team.
They’re just looking to dump.
by gian casimiro on Jun 24, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Dudes
You really want Monta Ellis? He’s like the dictionary definition of a high-usage low-efficiiency player. And he’s locked up long term to a big contract. And he doesn’t have 3 point range. He’s like the exact opposite of what I’d want.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 24, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
its not so much Monta Ellis
as the top 10 pick.
I don’t really go for Monta Ellis..but if we’re talking about Eddy Curry…to get a player for Eddy Curry, that’s fine with me.
As always, it depends on everything else the Knicks do.
But to not even divulge into the cap space yet, and to get Monta Ellis and a top 10 pick for Eddy Curry and Chandler…that’s a win.
Of course…who the hell knows if the Warriors accept.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 24, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
He's due 11 mil a year until 2013-14
And the Dubs have the 6th pick in a 5 player draft. Eddy’s expiring is an asset, not a liability. We’re not trading the player, we’re trading flexibility.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 24, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Ellis can score
the Knicks don’t have consistent scoring. Yea, the contract is bad, but Ellis probably is the best player on the Knicks right now.
5 player draft? Well, probably..since Cousins has bust written all over him. But its not out of the question for him to be top 5..possibly to the Kings.
If its possible (and probably this deal has no chance), but to get Greg Monroe and Monta Ellis, the Knicks are in business.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 24, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
is there really a match made more in heaven than monta and pringles?
at the very least, i think there would be a small boost to his stats in NY. just like it gets boosted for erryone else a tad when they play d’antoni ball.
that being said, im not huge on monta. cat doesnt know how to be a teammate
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Jun 24, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly.
I ain’t high on it either…its just, the Knicks get Lebron..Amare, and trade Curry for Monta Ellis? And then draft a big with that #6 overall pick?
The fuck?
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 24, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
its a nice thought
but it’s just so not gonna happen. and i like monta. but it’s not gonna happen even a little bit.
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Monta would be better
than Joe Johnson, I think. But it’s tough to make that leap before you know what LeBron’s going to do. Plus, I agree with stingy – the Knicks don’t have the pieces to complete this type of trade right now.
if it's gallo or monta
i go with gallo. i’d love to have them both though.
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While also freeing up a bit more cap space by moving Chandler's salary
Curry/Ellis are a wash financially, no?
just about.
Chandler + Curry = Ellis + rook, or there about (at least, wouldn’t hurt getting 2 maxes I think.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 24, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
financially yes, playeristically, no
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 24, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
This just in ...
“Hornets could trade out of lottery
The New Orleans Hornets’ front office hadn’t wanted to trade its No. 11 pick, but it appears the financial realities of the cash-strapped franchise are making it more likely the team will trade out of the lottery, league sources said late Wednesday.
The Hornets could make a team with cap space take one of their unwanted contracts – perhaps James Posey or even Julian Wright – as a condition for moving into the 11th spot. The Hornets could move later into the first round, where the guaranteed contracts for rookies descend with every spot until the 30th pick. Or, perhaps the Hornets could move completely out of the first round and pick up one or two second-round picks."
It’s LeBRON, not LeBrAHHHn, Chris Broussard you Rick Brunson rippoff!!
if we trade into the lottery we should pick up xavier henry
by thePharcyde on Jun 24, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
no xavier was the kansas small forward. or was that sarcasm?
by BronxBeliever on Jun 24, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
wouldnt even mind taking on posey, he’s a good fit here. him and the 11th for chandler, cash , and a 2nd rounder maybe?
"Game Knows Game"
by Ray Smuckles on Jun 24, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Anybody still looking for tickets?
Was at the front of the line so got 2 great seats extra. Section 300 Row E Seats 9 and 10, that’s right in the middle of the ticketed seats for the draft in the Theater. First come first serve, make an offer.
I am a Real American...
Not interested in purchasing, but how much do tickets go for?
by HanginfromtheGallo's on Jun 24, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
15 at the gate
but there was a ridiculous line and I got there an hour early. The whole front of the line had been there since 3 AM. Shit was crazy. I didn’t even bother.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 24, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike D'Antoni's comments on the draft
On their draft preparations:
"Right now the scouts are going through and rating the players and putting them in some type of order. There are some guys that I do like. I don’t know if they will be there at 38 or 39, but if you notice my contract is two more years so I’m mostly in the free agent group. The second rounder, if you find me something nice then great, I will develop them. If I don’t get it done July 1st, they might be developing for another coach. We’ve gotta get this thing done another way. I’ll be interested, pout my two cents in with these players, and hopefully we can come up with someone that got overlooked or we can fix the hole in his game."
[emphasis mine]
Interesting
If I don’t get it done? or if Donnie doesn’t get it done? Is he implying he might quit? Or be fired? What?
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 24, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
i think he probably feels
that he plays a large role in the free agent recruiting process. so he can’t come up short. and obviously if all he can get is a couple second round picks and second, third or fourth rate players to join the knicks, he is screwed.
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This is right
He would probably be fired if nothing good happened in free agency, since, and I think we can all agree on this, his skills are in maximizing already great talent, rather than developing young talent.
And if he weren’t fired, I doubt he’d want to stay anyway.
wow..Pringles...
damn? Can’t blame him tho. The guy wants to win, and while he knows what was what coming here, he really wasn’t given the opportunity to win here.
So yea, I can buy that. Doesn’t really matter tho I guess. But could that mean that if they get no one, that Pringles is gone?
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 24, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep it doesn't get any clearer than that
He knows that he at least has to make the playoffs this year, or he should consider calling Treviso and seeing if he can get his old job in Italy back. It’s a shame poor guy never really got a chance here. But that might be why Donnie has changed his tune about trying to buy into the first round. Pringles might have told him, if my neck is on the chopping block you have got to at least give me something to fight for my job with.
by Robert Currence on Jun 24, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
that sounds about right
It gives creedence to the idea that the last two years were all in preparation for the next two. And if things don’t improve in leaps and bounds in 2010-11 and 2011-12, I can’t imagine Pringles will be around. I think he’s being realistic about the NBA-readiness of mid-2nd round picks (and his part in the selection process, which, according to his second sentence seems limited). I think, taken out of context, this sounds like he’s preparing to leave, but in reality he’s saying “win now, with proven components. if the draftees can contribute, fine, but I’m not counting on it”.
by RobDiablo44 on Jun 24, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, thats how I read it
honestly, with all the people calling for his head already.. and the unfortunate reality that NY Sport teams read too much Post/Daily News… if we strike out on FA this year I bet Mike D wont get his contract renewed. He knows that he is a main draw to the FAs.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
good news everyone!
Futurama is back on the air tonight!
/back to your regularly scheduled draft talk.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
tivoing it
but did they really have to put both on the same night?
by Rodger Sherman on Jun 24, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
BDL latest post about teams with 2nd round picks
Trey Kirby not only doesn’t seem to know that the Knicks have two 2nd round picks, but he also says that Chandler and Gallo are the only two players under contract of any consequence (and he specifically mentions DWTDD and Bully as inconsequential and says, “Come ON, NY fans!”). He’s really got his finger on the NY fans’ pulse, eh?
all these idiot writers quick to bash the Knicks
will be jockeying for position on their dicks if they get HWSNBN + stuff.
Just write names down..kick ass later.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 24, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
There has been
An inordinate amount of anti-NY bias in the national (and regional) media these last few months. I don’t really know what that’s about, but it’s becoming frustrating (and, I’ll admit, a bit demoralizing – it’s hard to keep the faith when all you get is negative negative negative).
How about this for a power play?
Knicks trade Eddy’s expiring deal for one of New Orleans ugly contracts+11th pick, then do a 3-team deal with Indiana & New Orleans (again) for the 10th pick.
A package of players from NYC/Indi goes to New-O, the Pacers get Chris Paul, and the Knicks land the 10th pick. How about it? Who should go in the trade? Am I CRaZY!?
It’s LeBRON, not LeBrAHHHn, Chris Broussard you Rick Brunson rippoff!!
i would never help anyone get chris paul
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by stingy d on Jun 24, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What other choice do the Knicks have in regards to CP3?
They don’t have the pieces to move in order to land CP3, not if the rumors are true and New-O wants an All-Star, a starter, draft picks and cap relief.
The best the Knicks can do is hop onto a 3-team deal and land themselves a draft pick.
It’s LeBRON, not LeBrAHHHn, Chris Broussard you Rick Brunson rippoff!!
Hey
that’s not bad. I wonder if it’s worth taking on a stinky contract for the 10th pick. It seems like picks 8 or 9 through 15, in any draft, are expensive to get but you still get a pretty high likelyhood of a bust.. I prefer picks in the 20’s – they’re cheaper and you still usually get a contributor and occasionally a really good player.
I was gonna say the same thing.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 24, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I was going to agree and add something to that ...
But that cat is just TOO cute!!
Can’t …. think …. cuteness … shutting brain … dooooowwwwnnnn…….
It’s LeBRON, not LeBrAHHHn, Chris Broussard you Rick Brunson rippoff!!
KnickerBlogger
Picks Jarvis Varnado and Jeremy Lin.
http://www.knickerblogger.net/3895/thn-mock-with-the-38th-39th-picks-new-york-selects%E2%80%A6.html
Finally some Vernado love!
Hmm I thought his name was spelled vErnado not vArnado … whatever, thanks for promoting the block party. :-]
It’s LeBRON, not LeBrAHHHn, Chris Broussard you Rick Brunson rippoff!!
I've heard some speak ill of Varnado
And I doubt he’ll ever be a star. But as an energy/defensive guy to bring off the bench at the 3 or 4, I think he will find something useful to do on the court. And if he bulks up a bit from 210 to say, 230, he could be a Camby type of player. I agree with knickerblogger – I will be pissed if he’s there at 39 and the Knicks pass on him. I think he would be a great fit.
Speaking of,
the team could be drafting Marcus Williams and Jamaal Magloire.
http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=1168
by gian casimiro on Jun 24, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a very cool article.
We could have 4 Ramon Sessionses in the NBA next year. That could be confusing. How about that Caracter/Lee comparison? I’d almost like for the Knicks to pick up two late second rounders for cash. I think there are going to be couple of guys down there that actually might be able to contribute. Though maybe I am just drunk on draft hype.
Maybe we all are a little drunk on draft hype.
I however will make sure to be drunk on booze once the draft starts. That way if the Knicks’ picks suck (again) it won’t seem so bad.
It’s LeBRON, not LeBrAHHHn, Chris Broussard you Rick Brunson rippoff!!
Jeremy Lin?! of the Harvard Lins?!
That’s a fart in a stiff breeze. If the Knicks take him, I’ll eat my shoes.
Ooh, but I love me some Varnado. If getting Varnado meant having to take Jeremy Lin, I’d have to think about it….
I am entirely unproductive at work today. I blame the draft hype
Its a good damn thing that there is very little work to be done here!!
I’ve just been going thread to thread all day, and tryign to follow World Cup games without a TV or ability to stream…
Plus its 101 degrees outside, 107 with the Heat Index apparently. Jesus.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 24, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions
Me too
I’m going to get fired, for sure. I love the NBA Draft too much. And later, I’ll have to excruciatingly wait through the whole first round in order to get to the Knicks picks.
oh, you wont be waiting through the entire first round, heh heh
-Donnie Walsh
"Game Knows Game"
by Ray Smuckles on Jun 24, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Pant full of bone
I have one right now…but i have to go to the bathroom. Should i make use of the french tuck to avoid scrutiny from my coworkers?
Chicago just traded Hinrich at the 17th pick to the Wiz
They can now sign 2 maxes. Aaaaand… we’re fucked.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 24, 2010 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
we were probably fucked anyway
but yea man. it’s in avalanche.
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WTF
How many guards does Grunfeld need? Dude only had six guys on the roster and like 4 of them were guards.
by Robert Currence on Jun 24, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I must say
This upsets me greatly.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 24, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah and you are right
We are fucked! But on the bright side Pringles is definitely fucked
by Robert Currence on Jun 24, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
are we fucked?
or is everyone else clearing space fucked?
Who will be caught holding their dicks July 2nd?
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 24, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
It's gonna be us,
when our best option is to sign a cranky Chris Bosh.
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Jun 24, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
NOpe our Best option is gonna be to siqn Boozer
Cause OKC is gonna snap Lee up at midnight on July 1st, while Lebron and Amare are telling us No.
by Robert Currence on Jun 24, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the idea
is that the Bulls sign Bosh too. So we dont even have that.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 24, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
fucked
like a jelly doughnut in eddy’s house.
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Jun 24, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You would think that a former Knick and Former Knick GM
Wouldn’t rape us like that but he just did. He has no use at all for Hinrich. And I like the Jelly Donut crack that was good.
by Robert Currence on Jun 24, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but
Grunfeld got a pretty good pick there. He knows free agents aren’t probably going to go to the Wiz, therefore he gave up cap space for a mid-first rounder to pair with Wall. Solid move, I think.
But
that means he basically paid $9MM for a mid-first-round draft pick. Seems awfully expensive.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jun 24, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa, hold on though
That Hinrich deal can’t be finalized until July 8th. Thats a long time from now.
I also read today that Joe Johnson might want to committ early to Chicago. Good, let them, have Johnson and Bosh while we get Mr. Akron and keep Lee. Knicks still win. Chicago rivalry definitely renewed too.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 24, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
This is about it
This is what I’m hoping for…but Chicago…if LeBron decides to sign with them, then he’ll just wait a week before finalizing. It’s not really an obstacle at all. just a delay for finalizing papers.
Face it Dude
We just got raped by John Paxson and a dude who looks like Stan Van Gundy after one too many scotch and sodas.
by Robert Currence on Jun 24, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i cant see paxson raping anybody
at least not on paper. maybe in a southside alley.
"Game Knows Game"
by Ray Smuckles on Jun 24, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
God, you guys sound like Cavs fans.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 24, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Not at all CCF
But Chicago having the money to sign two max guys plus keep Rose, Noah, and gibson. Let’s just say Donnie has one hell of a sales pitch to make.
by Robert Currence on Jun 24, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure he does, but we still have a ton of $$ too
Chicago loves to find ways to fuck things up too.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 24, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Chicago has Asian Carp
and is really windy. Don’t they put tomatoes on their hot dogs? Really guys, someone wants to play for Chicago, I don’t want ’em anyway.
Bah to Chicago.
Who wants to be called a Baby Bull their whole career anyway.
It’s LeBRON, not LeBrAHHHn, Chris Broussard you Rick Brunson rippoff!!
For all of you near the Garden
the time is 3:57…DLee is outside signing autographs in front of the Garden…
Sure might.
Donnie might be there right now kissing his butt, especially if he now believes he can’t land LBJ+Bosh.
Butt kissing counts as love right?
It’s LeBRON, not LeBrAHHHn, Chris Broussard you Rick Brunson rippoff!!
Is there any rhyme or reason why the Wizards suck so much?
Donnie Walsh/Pringles are SO fired if they don’t land LBJ+ 1.
If it wasn’t for his stupid free agency plan, we could have traded for Washington’s 5th pick last year and be trading for lots of picks in the teens this year, plus we’d still have Jordan Hill as trade bait, and our next two lotto picks.
They better sign LBJ+1 or they are so DEAD!
It’s LeBRON, not LeBrAHHHn, Chris Broussard you Rick Brunson rippoff!!
I think Donnie will be fine,
But Pringles is toast. Boy Gallo better make a big leap next season.
by Robert Currence on Jun 24, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
are you guys sure that the hinrich move gives them
as much space as you think? i read it was only $30 million, plus they are paying for an extra 1st rounder now. Anyone have something written down? i know that i dont.
As for D’antoni being lynched, let’s try and relax a bit on that front.
TD, walker, chandler, gallo, barron + draft picks could win 60+games…or 10.
"Game Knows Game"
by Ray Smuckles on Jun 24, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
http://cdn.optmd.com/V2/67072/144380/index.html?g=Af////8=&r=www.topix.net/forum/chicago/T5COGLM26FDRK0SPN
"Game Knows Game"
by Ray Smuckles on Jun 24, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
walsh = cat
grunfeld = fish
"Game Knows Game"
by Ray Smuckles on Jun 24, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
free agent cess pool
walsh hates it, but he’ll strike when the time is right
"Game Knows Game"
by Ray Smuckles on Jun 24, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just typing the same thing as a new post
Based on my amateur Cap Calculations, I have CHI on the hook for $25.2MM next year including minimum cap holds (do they still have a 2010 first rounder?) and NYK on the hook for $21MM if Donnie doesn’t buy a first rounder.
If Bosh/Lebron/etc. are smart, they won’t let a few million stand in the way, but it’s not precisely two max contracts.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jun 24, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
well done sgt
i need to step out for a while, getting feverish
"Game Knows Game"
by Ray Smuckles on Jun 24, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, if we moved chandler for the #5 pick, we would have included the pick used on Hill too.
Hindsight says yeah we coulda taken Curry or Flynn, but thats still a big price to pay.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 24, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Washington didn't want the 8th pick.
They just wanted Chandler and for NYC to take a ugly contract back.
Remember the T-Wolves didn’t have to give up their pick in the deal they made with Washington, after NYC turned them down.
It was a stupid trade by the Wizards, one the Knicks had first dips to take advantage of.
It’s LeBRON, not LeBrAHHHn, Chris Broussard you Rick Brunson rippoff!!
It's not about the potential roster.
It’s about them giving away lottery picks & not trading for lottery picks because they were saving all their money for LBJ+1.
They have to land this free agency plan of theirs or they are gone. We can do a better job of rebuilding by hiring the duo fired from Portland and trying to steel Houston’s coach away from them.
It’s LeBRON, not LeBrAHHHn, Chris Broussard you Rick Brunson rippoff!!
Rick Adelman?
Looks like Pringles except he stutters
by Robert Currence on Jun 24, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea I know he looks like Pringles dad.
But the man can coach, he’s led inferior teams up against some elite squads and held his own. He commands a strong defensive mindset and adjusts his schemes depending on the roster he has to work with.
It’s kinda of like trading Luigi for Mario but who doesn’t want the better Mario brother?!!
It’s LeBRON, not LeBrAHHHn, Chris Broussard you Rick Brunson rippoff!!
Let's just draft John Isner.
He’s got length, height, endurance, and he’ll feel right at home next to DLee
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Jun 24, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions
Good for a lot of aces too.
But no joke on the endurance.
I cant begin to imagine how that match went as long as it did.
Its incomprehensible
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 24, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
This sucks
There is nothing I can do but wait right now and make stupid comments.
Stupid comment Stupid comment Stupid comment.
Damn, I wish I still had access to Hahn. He probably said something intelligent today.
Anybody think David Lee is a little mad/looking for payback at this point?
I mean everyone seemed about ready to put his face on the back of a milk carton, if it meant landing LBJ.
If things don’t pan out, they still might, but if they don’t what might D Lee do?
… after posting that I’m reminded of that rioter that took a whiz on the authorities.
It’s LeBRON, not LeBrAHHHn, Chris Broussard you Rick Brunson rippoff!!
Eh
He knows the deal. And he knows that 30 teams out of 30 would take LeBron over him. I seriously doubt he’s mad about it.
Cowboy Bosh seems to be kindairked about it though, lol
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 24, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
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