Free Agency 2010: The Countdown Thread
by Seth on Jun 30, 2010 9:38 AM EDT
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PrintAs I write this, the beginning of free agency is just under 15 hours away. Here are some tips and tricks to bring good luck to the Knicks and to make the anticipation as painless as possible:
1. Don't watch Sportscenter. In fact, don't watch anything with a "ticker", and this includes whatever show it is on E! that displays a ticker of celebrity tweets.
2. In fact, if you're bold enough, avoid most news and rumor sources entirely. Nothing of any substance can take place until midnight, so anybody expressing any degree of certainty right now is questionable...less and less questionable by the minute, but questionable even still.
3. Stay hydrated. Got to.
4. Walk yourself through each of the possibilities. Imagine a world in which the Knicks have two or three of the biggest free agents. Imagine a world in which they have none. Learn to accept both.
5. When the sun reaches its zenith, bring one crazy straw and one male adult goat (of any breed) to the nearest lake or pond. Slit the goat's throat and empty its blood into the lake. Remove the goat's horns and hooves (for ointment-making purposes). Using the crazy straw, drink the entire contents of the lake.
6. Spend some time reacquainting yourself with free agency jargon (if you haven't already). Mike Prada's Free Agency Primer should also help. Don't go overboard with it, though.
7. Do what Toney Douglas do. During any moments in which you aren't doing what Toney Douglas do, repeat the phrase "Do what Toney Douglas do" aloud. If you don't plan on doing either of these things, then get "Do what Toney Douglas do" tattooed on your lower back.
8. Avoid the states of Illinois, Florida, California, and New Jersey at all costs. Oh, fuck.
9. Have a drink with dinner. Nothing major. Just have a little something to take the edge off: wine, beer, a mixed drink, Kool-Aid laced with arsenic...something to settle the nerves.
10. Feel free to comment in this thread to share your thoughts and concerns. My goal is for the entire P&T community to achieve a state of zen-like indifference in the hours leading up to July 1st. This way, we'll all realize that we're Knicks fans no matter what happens. Also, it makes it easier for me to rob all of you.
I'll update y'all with news or rumors if I see fit (I very likely will not see fit). Otherwise, have peaceful, fruitful days, and I'll see you all tonight. Hugs and kisses.
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I usually do this every Wednesday...
but I’ve been saving this particular species for a special occasion.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
but option 5 is the best one!!!
I like number 4 as a runner up
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Jun 30, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Hydration
Can’t stress that enough. Dehydration affects the entire digestive system, and usually rears (pun intended) it’s ugly head at the service exit (or entrance if you prefer.. nothing wrong with that). Last thing you want is problems in “The Abyss”. Trust me.
Knicks rule. As does good pooper maintenance.
Did you Know over on the clipplers page we are
gonna get shut out and no one will want to sign here fore years!!! We will be a shunned team in the Cellar for another decade!!!
by Robert Currence on Jun 30, 2010 10:07 AM EDT reply actions
I would take their word for it
I mean they’ve been shunned for centuries
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by zlander on Jun 30, 2010 10:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
More like the L.A. Cripples! All you have to do is move 2 letters!
Anyway, they’re the ones who suck
it's everywhere
but thats b/c no one knows that isaiah isnt running the show here anymore smh
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
yeah, maybe we should send that memo to ESPN too
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 30, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=5342360
no amare meeting after all
by J3TSFANFORLYF3 on Jun 30, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions
Sorry to break one of the commandmants..but this is the best FA article since we traded jamal crawford, and steven a smith said lebron and bosh are sure things
m.si.com/news/to/to/detail/2736943
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by zlander on Jun 30, 2010 10:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
exactly why there are commandments...
Steven A is saying that Miami is a sure thing for those 2.
Stay thirsty.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn phone copied the mobile link
Jus go to si.com and read the article by ian thomsen
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by zlander on Jun 30, 2010 10:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Here is a possibility for the Knicks that would make us really good for years
Convince 3 or 4 players that are not max players to become Knicks. JJ Redick, Rudy Gay, Boozer and/or Lee. Leave the remaining max slot for 2011 for Carmelo Anthony and then destroy the league.
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
yea, no.
no, of course, yes. but yea, nah. nah. yea. yes. correct. no. right, yes.
twitter.com/aighttho
http://aightthen.tumblr.com/
Hell I would be happy if we went and got Gay, Blake, Lee, Haywood and maybe a Luther Head off the bench
and then get Carmelo or CP3 in 2011. Just don’t sign a max player just because you have the money.
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
If you want to get gay
go right ahead.
If you want to get head, same thing.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jun 30, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Bros
Drinking at 12 until we sign Joe Joh… our first free agent. Who is in with me?
http://twitter.com/wmarv
yea
i’m gonna get a 24 pack of michelob lice. and body them bitches.
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http://aightthen.tumblr.com/
I have two gallons of homemade wine waiting for me.
I’m planning on looking like D’Antoni in that video of the Italian dance house party he attended years back. I think that was posted on here.
http://twitter.com/wmarv
ha, yes!
i’m sure donnie is gonna be drunk in his wheelchair speedin around LAX like a bandit, screaming, wincing, screaming wincing…. i can’t wait to run out of beer and run to the bodega at 11:55 with no pants on, trying to get two six packs of tecate, and three smirnoff ice’s to fuck with the first three alt bro’s i see.
twitter.com/aighttho
http://aightthen.tumblr.com/
we'll all be really, really drunk or...
really, really drunk
Cant Lose!
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Jun 30, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
IIs that a celebratory drink..or drinking threw pain away?
if we sign him for anything less than a max deal I’ll be popping crystal
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by zlander on Jun 30, 2010 10:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
More like everytime I see a Knick rumor I funnel wine.
It will be a celebration until I start puking.
http://twitter.com/wmarv
if we sign luke ridnour for anything less than 10 million
i’ll be skin popping 10 brown books, like fuck it.
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http://aightthen.tumblr.com/
whoa 10 Mil
hoow much is he making now, I didn’t know he was caking like that.
What did the 5 fingers say to the face?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CBwX1891A
HaHaHaHa!
by Lord Smackington on Jun 30, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm repeating the same mantra all day
“I will always be a Knicks fan. I will always be a Knicks fan.”
by Wilson Chandler's Voicebox on Jun 30, 2010 10:30 AM EDT reply actions
Couple for your bullshit meter
“Knicks can trade Curry, and bring back Lee + 2 max players
“Nuggets prepared to trade Carmelo Anthony”.
“Paul Pierce opts out of contract”.
KEEP LEE!!!
and yes I broke a commandment.
cuz its from ESPN’s ticker
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Pierce did opt out.
But don’t get your Knickers in an uproar. He is opting out to renegotiate his deal so they can offer more money. to other free agents. Pierce thinks the Celts have another run at it if they can add a piece. I hear the are renotiating a 5 year 50 mil deal, and Pierce would be offered a font office job when he retires. Pierce is walking away from 21 million dollars that he is not gonna get elsewhere, so you know this is a done deal.
by Robert Currence on Jun 30, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I know.
hence the bullshit thingy.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Potpourri
Have you all seen the Colbert Report interview with Coach Pringles from last night? Pretty funny.
What do you think would happen if HWSNBN said he wanted to come to NY but only if the Knicks signed N8 the GR8? Good times.
This link was posted elsewhere on this site, but now we know the answer for WTDD: “everything.”
Shooting, ballhandling, finger roll, conditioning, explosiveness, finishing moves, going to the rack.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jun 30, 2010 10:52 AM EDT reply actions
heres the direct link to that video
the link u gave sent me to one of his other vids
dantoni and colbert interview
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
lol
points he brings up..curry, lebron, not winning, salary cap, team showers
this is actually funny shyt!
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
its a real point to
people talk about how the NYC exposure thing is overrated. How LBJ can do the same thing with his global brand in CLE that he can here.
This is part of the proof they are wrong. Colbert is a show broadcast all over the world. Little things like being on it make you a more recognizable face.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
Yeah
but Colbert also has interviewed Clevelanders, like Kucinich.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jun 30, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
sport figures though...
are very different then politicians.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
And thank goodness for that
I’m in agreement with you though. The fact is, Jon Stewart, Tom Brokaw, etc., are courtside at the Knicks games. Drew Carey is courtside at Cavs games. Jimmy Buffett (and not many others) is courtside at Heat games.
If you want to play with the big boys, you need to go where they are.
Plus, a great player will certainly attract fans from outside of his market. But the real passion is only felt by the local fans. Why would anyone turn down having 12 million passionate fans? Out of the available group, only the Knicks fans (to a lesser extent the Bulls fans) have show that kind of loyalty and passion. I have to believe that means something to folks who have played in Atlanta, Toronto, and Miami.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jun 30, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yea and woody allen
can find the best discounts on young asian women.
twitter.com/aighttho
http://aightthen.tumblr.com/
Hey
Look what the Knicks could do…
1.Sign lebron for 16 million and joe johnson for 10 million while retaining Lee’s Bird rights. Or do a sign and trade with the Hawks, sending them Chandler so Johnson can get 11 million
2. Sign our second round guys so we go over the cap. – giving us the mid-level exception
3. Sign a center for the mid-level exception.
4. Sign Lee for 12 million.
I’ma focus on that for a while. It’s a big pay cut for Johnson but he farted out pretty bad in the playoffs so I’m not sure he gets the max anyway.
But yeah. Zen. I’m visualizing a lineup of Andy Rautins, Bill Walker, Landry Fields, Gallo and Jerome Jordan making a furious 4th quarter comeback.
Ommmmmmmmmmmm
I think you'd have to
flip flop 1 and 2 to make that work, but ok.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jun 30, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
No
If we go over the cap, we then get an MLE. So if we retain Lee’s bird rights, we can sign him going over the cap, and earn ourselves an MLE.
that effects us
when it comes to curry coming off the books next season
twitter.com/aighttho
http://aightthen.tumblr.com/
only at the start of FA
if we start under, then go over… all that matters is we started under.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
We have already renounced Lee's rights, which is why he has not spoken to
Donnie or Pringles since the season ended. Shame tho because had we kept the rights, we could have had exclusive negotiating rights until July 1st.
by Robert Currence on Jun 30, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Cap hit but what the fuck do I know I got that info from reading one of Berman's Columns
For I know Donnie could have already signed Lee to a six year extension. But that is where I got it from that his rights had been renounced and the Knicks could not contact him or his agent until July 1st.
by Robert Currence on Jun 30, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
You renounce Bird rights because of cap holds.
Cap holds amount to at least 150% a player’s salary counting towards the cap until you sign the player or renounce the rights. This prevents teams from using all of their cap space (like the LeBron and JJ in your scenario) and then signing their own player to go over the cap. Bird rights are in place so that, in case you only have 3 mil in cap space to spend, you can sign your player for much more to retain him. Lee’s cap hold is around 11 million I believe.
by gian casimiro on Jun 30, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey I am sure at some time next year that Lineup will be on the floor. Let's just hope it isn't
for 35 minutes a night! LOL
by Robert Currence on Jun 30, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't seen it mentioned ANYwhere...
what does everyone think Lebron is gonna do?
lol
hang out wit his thang out
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
I’ll admit it, I roflcoptered at #5. Then I continued laughing all the way to my nearest pond, goat in hand, crazy straw in bum. You’re a role model for us all, S’th.
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I just realized we don't get to see a regular season game until October.
No matter who signs. How sad.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
About #5...
I live in Jersey, so attempting to do this goes against Rule 8. Decisions.
I have a basketball game today at my gym, so Im just chillin until then. After I get home, Im gonna play PS3 until 12:00, then see whats going on. May the force be with us.
Sorry to rumormonger
but it sounds like Carmelo has been “final offered” from Denver and if he won’t sign then they’ll explore a trade. This is appealing to me.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 30, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions
For real.
This whole process has given me a sickness that only cheap hooch and A grade piff can cure.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 30, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Out of Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Stoudemire, Johnson, and Boozer,
which would you least like to sign with the Knicks?
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
Reggie Miller
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jun 30, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT IS EVERYONE HAVING FOR LUNCH??????????????????
Turkey provolone and mayo on a plain roll. 99c can of arizona green tea and a bag of dirty potato chips (sour cream and onion)
http://twitter.com/wmarv
Or dinner for our friends across the pond.
Or breakfast for our friends on the left coast.
http://twitter.com/wmarv
Fried chicken with a dish of stoplight peppers, onions, peas and carrots.
the veggies sound awkward, but its all gooood
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 30, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
if the water had a current
would that change things?
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
you're very italian for a jewish dude
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jun 30, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
i think i gotta go to the halcyon gourmet now
on norman between manhattan and lorimer, ya’ll. brooklyn. i definitely reccomend th epork tenderloin blt! holy hell!
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I had a late lunch
but radiatore with Bertolli vodka sauce
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
chicken and cheeze quesodilla with a sparkling grapfruit juice!
gay, but nerve settling
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Jun 30, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that ESPn Free Agency Lottery Wheel thing still up?
I honestly feel that 90% of the rumors have begun from assholes spinning that damn wheel.
Also, I’m gonna predict that NONE of the big free agents do anything at midnight or until at least Friday.
But that won’t stop ESPN (Every Sucker Preaches Nonsense) from coutning down like its goddamn NYE.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 30, 2010 12:56 PM EDT reply actions
By sources do you mean Chris Broussard's Facebook page?
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 30, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
He has a sister? Hey Harris where are you dude?
by Robert Currence on Jun 30, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Allan Houston Quote:
“You can’t underestimate the power of putting great players and how other players will raise their games,” said Allan Houston, part of the Knicks’ recruiting team. “When you add leadership, you will see how the others rise. One thing I do know. People haven’t seen Toney [Douglas], Gallo [Danilo Gallinari] and Wilson [Chandler] play with great players.”
Well, shit, I guess Allan Houston doesn’t think David Lee is a great player. Hmmmmm I just got one of those feelings that Lee is gone.
I’m starting to like the Johnson/LeBron pairing though. Though I think the Knicks plan to bring them off the bench to spell Rautins and Fields. Sources tell me it’s a done deal.
Well, I don't think he can use David Lee as he is no longer under contract
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 30, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You can use a guy in a sign and trade who is not under contract,
Lee would have to agree to be dealt.
by Robert Currence on Jun 30, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know that, I mean using Lee as a selling point to join the Knicks tho
Sure they want Lee back, but it would be Toronto saying “Hey, come play for Toronto with Chris Bosh”, even though they don’t know if he will resign.
Granted we have far better chance to resign David Lee than Toronto does in Chris Bosh. Not counting a sign & trade…
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 30, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
agree
I think Lee is gone too, unfortunately. The Lee himself really hasn’t played with great players either…
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
are you ready?!
free agency tomorrow!!! anyone watching “knicks night live” tonight on MSG? hoping they say something about lebron coming to nyc. don’t want to lose him to Chicago, Miami or the nets
I hope he goes to the Nets
and loses
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard somewhere that it now appears James, Wade, Bosh, JJ, Stoudemire, and Duhon will sign with the Hartford Heroes, a new franchise they are creating. Do you think there is any truth to this rumor?
Chris Broussard reported it too
but apparently its the Hahrtforrrrrd Herhoes
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Adrian Wojnarowski WojYahooNBA
AJC report that Hawks preparing 6-year Bird Rights deal is devastating news to potential Joe Johnson suitors. He wants to stay in Atlanta.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
We'll see. Even Wojo doesn't get a free pass.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 30, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
basically everything about that screams bullshit
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I can’t see him staying in Atlanta after how their season ended. Plus he complained all year about the lack of fan support in Atlanta.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
yea..that
and it’s been stated that JJ wants to play with Pringles.
Wojo could be right on the contract, but it could be a sign and trade thingy
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
wtf
if they sign JJ tonight, who the fuck are the knicks going to sign tonight? I’m going to die of alcohol poisoning.
http://twitter.com/wmarv
Earl Barron
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 30, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I was watching Sanford and Son on DVD
and a ticker scrolled up and say “Chris Broussard twat: Lebrahn to join Wade and Reggie Evahns in Miami”.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
From Chris Broussard:
“apparently the pretzel in the new aptly named “pretzel M&Ms” is round, not pretzel shaped like in the commercial. So that means the pretzel enema that orange fuck in the commercial received was not so bad".
Go New York! Go New York!
KEEP LEE!!!
Alright. I have decided that I want LeBron James (yeah I said his name) in a Knicks uni
What I DON’T want is him in a Bulls jersey. What I absolutely, positively, flamboyantly, decisively don’t want, is him in NJ uniform. Seriously. Those guys are just beyond irrational idiots. Yeah, I know, this is nothing new to anybody.
But damnit, they have this new notion that because Jay-Z is a part-owner, they are suddenly the mecca of basketball. It is entirely beyond them that someone could possibly decide to play elsewhere, ESPECIALLY in NY. And you just cannot have any sort of rational conversation or debate with them.
So yeah. Fuck the rest of Free Agency. I only want lebron James here so I can watch the sentiments of the Nets do an instant 180. They talk all this junk about the Knicks having no Plan B either. but yeah, as long as he doesn’t go to NJ, that would be great. I want to see them forced to splurge on a guy like Rudy Gay or Brendan Haywood. No Wade, James, Bosh, Johnson, Amare, or even Boozer. Fuck em.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 30, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions
big l rest in peace
(rest in peace rest in peace rest in peace)
by Rodger Sherman on Jun 30, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
was gonna quote that!
felt like it would be sacreligious. also i’m pretty sure i’ve done that on this site before.
by Rodger Sherman on Jun 30, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
But seriously...
having him sign with the Nots and then watching us (or anyone else for that matter) knock their ass outta in the playoffs would make alllllll of their talk this summer so much sweeter. lol
Yeah, they have really turned me into a hater.
Damn Nets.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
See, I used to be neutral about the Nets
My brother was the resident Knicks fanatic growing up, and I have gradually come around to the Dark Side. Afterall, that guy knew every bit of news and i couldn’t help but be familiar with the players. Bastards just grew on me.
but with the Nets, I knew the rivalry and such but I didn’t care. i could root for them even. I dug Kerry Kittles and Kenyon Martin and of course Kenny Anderson was nasty with Derrick Coleman. But now… I just flipped the switch from “tolerable” to “goddamn Red Sox”. They just piss me the hell off with their attitude towards everything NOT Nets.
And, sure, people will say the same thing about Knicks fans and every other team, and there are plenty of Knicks fans, etc. to prove them right. But there are tons more level-headed fans too. But anyways. I’m done with New Jersey. I hate ’em. Dead to me. And there is only ONE team in NY.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 30, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Said sir
I agree with them sentiments. I think it’s hilarious that people at BSPN like Rob Parker are presumptuous to believe LeBron would base his decision on whether or not to leave Cleveland because of what Jay-Z tells him. Seeing how both these guys are astute business men, Jay-Z would essentially jeopardize his relationship with LeBron if he convinced him to bolt for a team that ended up in the lottery again next year. Additionally, LeBron, while wanting to be a billionaire athlete also wants to have a great basketball legacy. When considering his basketball legacy, are people actually dense enough to think he’ll let the words of a rapper have major influence on him? If anything, Jay-Z would probably see what LeBron is thinking and relay it back to the Russian. Being that Jay-Z is a smart business man, he’ll
probably advise LeBron to do what’s best for himself but say it in such a way so the Russian doesn’t feel like a loser.
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
by Rohpuri on Jun 30, 2010 3:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Also, seems to me that Bosh is going to have to be a Sign & Trade guy
And it seems like Miami will be his only shot. Sounds like Toronto would want Beasley & Chalmers (surely Miami would be just fine with that). But if its the Bulls, they want Joakim Noah and Taj Gibson… the Bulls letting Noah go would be counter-productive in my opinion. Also, Toronto would def want to use David Lee in the S&N if the Knicks are involved.
Maybe we get James/Johnson abd Miami ends up with Bosh/Wade, Chicago gets Amare and the Nets MAYBE get Boozer…though I’ll root for th Clippers to sign him, lol.
Feasible…
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 30, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions
Boozer doesn't really fit with the Nets
I can see the Nets getting Gay tho, pause.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
doesn't fit
cuz Boozer seems legit that he wants to win. He’d probably go to Chicago, which I could care less if he does
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
This would work if we trade them
Cock as well. The Gay Cock duo would leave no butts for not winning a championship.
My thing i i want them to have the worst options available.
If Boozer is the only big name left, they will sign him for lack of other options.
And yep, as they drafted a PF, they don’t needd Boozer. But like i said earlier… fuck em.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 30, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
He would be a nice fit
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
by Rohpuri on Jun 30, 2010 3:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Peter Gabriel?
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jun 30, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Why am I waiting for midnight when nothing will happen?
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
by bm01bath on Jun 30, 2010 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I enjoyed that laugh.
Probably shouldn’t have.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
"Anyway, you should check out the movie "Black and White," which actually stars Allan Houston. It’s not a comedy, but rather a really serious and emotional movie." - Wilson Chandler
by ny knickerbocker on Jun 30, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
"Anyway, you should check out the movie "Black and White," which actually stars Allan Houston. It’s not a comedy, but rather a really serious and emotional movie." - Wilson Chandler
by ny knickerbocker on Jun 30, 2010 3:54 PM EDT reply actions
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
"Anyway, you should check out the movie "Black and White," which actually stars Allan Houston. It’s not a comedy, but rather a really serious and emotional movie." - Wilson Chandler
by ny knickerbocker on Jun 30, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
"Anyway, you should check out the movie "Black and White," which actually stars Allan Houston. It’s not a comedy, but rather a really serious and emotional movie." - Wilson Chandler
by ny knickerbocker on Jun 30, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
"Anyway, you should check out the movie "Black and White," which actually stars Allan Houston. It’s not a comedy, but rather a really serious and emotional movie." - Wilson Chandler
by ny knickerbocker on Jun 30, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
"Anyway, you should check out the movie "Black and White," which actually stars Allan Houston. It’s not a comedy, but rather a really serious and emotional movie." - Wilson Chandler
by ny knickerbocker on Jun 30, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
all right
that’s enough for now then. but i prefer to think it makes the page marinate.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
"Anyway, you should check out the movie "Black and White," which actually stars Allan Houston. It’s not a comedy, but rather a really serious and emotional movie." - Wilson Chandler
by ny knickerbocker on Jun 30, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
"Anyway, you should check out the movie "Black and White," which actually stars Allan Houston. It’s not a comedy, but rather a really serious and emotional movie." - Wilson Chandler
by ny knickerbocker on Jun 30, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
the great thing about this picture
is that rick brunson is somewhere off camera, but still THERE.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
"Anyway, you should check out the movie "Black and White," which actually stars Allan Houston. It’s not a comedy, but rather a really serious and emotional movie." - Wilson Chandler
by ny knickerbocker on Jun 30, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
That was a lethal combination in NBA JAM TE
Little known fact, even though that 3point rating for Ewing is appropriately low, he hit a ridiculous amount of them in the video game.
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
No joke, but Ewing was unstoppable from the Corner 3 in that game
I have a damn good photographic memory, and I remember when my friends and I would play NBA JAM TE, they came up with ridiculous rules that limited my usage of the Knicks because of Ewing’s reggie miller like skills from the corner.
I specifically remember the day when I hustled my boy Justin. He agreed to let me be the Knicks so long as I didn’t use Ewing until the 4th quarter/second half. Dude blew a 20 point lead against me with Ewing going a perfect 15-15 from the corner 3s, and Starks draining 3s from the top of the key. After the game ended dude ripped the cartridge out of the SNES and chucked it in the garbage. Some how the game still worked after that.
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
Contest Winner
Dark Lord Seth-
Apparently the contest winners for that Knicks Night Live contest had lunch with Almighty Clyde himself today.
Frazier was at the Garden Wednesday eating lunch with three Knicks fans who had won a contest in which they will represent the entire fan base when “Knicks Night Live” airs tonight on MSG Network at midnight.
Any chance you can use your dark (hair) powers and get us a report from the P&T mole?
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jun 30, 2010 4:44 PM EDT reply actions
i'm getting frequent reports from him via email.
i think he wants to write a fanpost about the whole experience when he returns.
IF he returns.
Hopefully
he didn’t spill the beans to Clyde about the P&T shirts.
You don’t want to have Clyde Litigate and Confiscate.
Anyway, let’s see if we can get a shout-out to P&T on MSG tonight.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jun 30, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
why does it seem
like the night before christmas? Waiting to see if ma and dad thought we were naughty or nice. I might start drinking now.
Eddie Curry's Bills
Oh, crap
I guess that means that I’ll be eating Chinese food tomorrow.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jun 30, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh hey guys.
I’ve been avoiding basketball for a while now. Just too nervous for this week. Something about the Knicks possibly being a better run organization than the Rangers just doesn’t feel right. Whatever let’s roll with the punches!
"Are you really Wade Redden?"-Jim
the Knicks wiped the slate clean
while the Ranger still have a whole bunch of Wade Redden and Michael Rozsival.
The Knicks are already a “better run” franchise…at least until the Knicks sign people and/or Sather bury’s Redden in Hartford.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That
was some of the funniest shit Ive ever read ….HOLY SHIT… ROFLMFAO!!!!!
In 94 I thought i could die in peace... Now I watch a ranger game and just want to die.
What are you trying to say LBJ?
In 94 I thought i could die in peace... Now I watch a ranger game and just want to die.
what were you saying about zen-like states?
just got back from playing ball
5-0 in my nba live 2004 create-a-franchise team (allan houston is averaging 55, 12, and 13)
letting my prized space jam soundtrack on vinyl spin
i’m at peace with the knicks universe. the management did their job (cutting cap to the point where signing some expensive homie was plausible), whether it happens, well, i’ll still be at peace with the knicks universe. we could sign rick brunson to a max contract and i’d be cool with it at this point. either way, we’ve atoned for our mardy collins era sins. the future is now.
zen-like, homie.
by Rodger Sherman on Jun 30, 2010 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
I’m gonna harness my chi, align my chakras and put my dream-catcher in the window.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jun 30, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
yup
ebay. best 25 bucks i ever spent.
by Rodger Sherman on Jun 30, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
just rechecked ebay
the only copy on there now is 200 bucks. bargain!
by Rodger Sherman on Jun 30, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Lavar Postell available?????? He may finally get his chance to shine!
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
Till this day, I am still amazed that the he never got a shot
Especially after Sprewell became a shell of himself and Houston broke down. You’d think they’d throw him one bone?
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
I will proceed to go outside and perform various forms of African dances
many of which are those of Welcome, possession and summoning. Maybe a warrior dance if I feel frisky. I will also be doing these completely naked.
Wish me luck.
KEEP LEE!!!
who else has a massive boner right now?
seriously, i’m walking around with my cock out
Birthday is July 1st so the Knicks better give me something good.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
so they're meeting with Miller at 12:00:01
and Joe Johnson at 12:00:30
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
the Knicks aren't exactly a contender....
just yet at least
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
We are a contender?
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
D. Lee at 60 million over over 5 years (yr 6 being half guaranteed)
Get er’ dun Donnieboy!
A good read
A shameless plug for my blog and an entertaining, up-to-date read (that will probably piss New Yorkers off… I mean, you guys are screwed, right?)
http://sportscasualties.wordpress.com/2010/06/30/the-new-york-knicks-plan-b-god-if-youre-listening/
that's what everyone's telling NY right now..we're getting no one.
you’re whole article is so 5:30PM on ESPN.
No one gives a shit.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
KaPoW!#@%~!
Thats a certified FreeBradshaw asswhuppin’ right thar boys!
Come back when you've got something fresh and original. Ive read this story 100 times since Chris Brousard blasted us 4 weeks ago.
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
shit...
Broussard said that 4 weeks ago. Steven A Smith said the Knicks are getting JJ and Lebron last week and now we’re getting no one again tonight.
For real….no one knows shit about shit.
For all anyone knows, all these guys are gonna go back to their teams while the Lakers and Celtics/Magic battle away for the chip again.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
LBJ is gonna make a decision
real close to the 8th.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
Calling it:
LBJ decides by July 5th.
"Seriously, Lana, call Kenny Loggins ‘cause you’re in the danger zone."
He does it during the July 4th celebration
in every city that was considering him. For fun.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
Haha, his track record suggests this...
Btw, my only prediction is that he leaves Cleveland. Other than that, I think it’s a free for all to see who gets him. If I was ranking the teams, here’s how I see it:
1. Chicago
2. New York
3. New Jersey
4. Miami
"Seriously, Lana, call Kenny Loggins ‘cause you’re in the danger zone."
I know this isn't exactly going out on a limb, but...
I agree with Simmons and Chad Ford – I think the majority of people look at the Jordan angle the wrong way. I agree that LBJ would really enjoy continuing MJ’s legacy in Chi-town. Plus, in Chicago he’s be the man, even if Bosh and Joe Johnson joined him.
However, I feel like LBJ is a bit more of a diva than MJ was and might not care about winning “quite” as much. Plus, I think the idea that he couldn’t win in NY is kind of ridiculous. Sure, it’s doubtful they would win in 2010, but after signing 2 max guys in 2010 and landing another big piece through a trade or free agency in 2011, this team would be a burgeoning dynasty. Anyway, I think the allure of playing in NY, the Garden, and in front of the rabid Knicks fans is something that appeals to LBJ – just look at the games he has had when playing us. So I find the lack of buzz a bit odd. The Knicks have to be considered serious contenders.
You can basically reiterate everything I said about the Knicks and carry it over to the Nets, except they’ll be in Brooklyn after a brief stop in Newark and the franchise doesn’t carry the same prestige as the Knicks. However, they have some nice young players and the opportunity to basically build a franchise (new building, name, jersies, etc) must be intriguing to LeBron.
I know a lot of media outlets are reporting that there could be this dream team scenario in Miami, but I’m seriously not buying it. I don’t see how LeBron shares the limelight with Wade AND Bosh. For starters, he doesn’t have to. He carried a pretty pathetic cast of characters in Cleveland to back to back 60 win teams. He doesn’t need Wade and Bosh to win titles. Plus, if everything plays out as rumored, both Wade and Bosh would be making more money than him… yet another reason why I doubt he would go to Miami. Sure they’d win titles, but I don’t know how it would shape his legacy or his brand going forward.
"Seriously, Lana, call Kenny Loggins ‘cause you’re in the danger zone."
http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/533558/jersey-shore-season-two-trailer.jhtml#id=1642704
There are no grenades in Miami. We’re fucked.
http://twitter.com/wmarv
by THEWILLY on Jun 30, 2010 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
would If I could
but I can’t, so I ain’t
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
I Believe in 80 wins
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jun 30, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Ironically, I was thinking about a possible trade for Melo and went to Realgm.com
On their trade checker, I found a viable trade that would work, but the question is would we do it:
TO DENVER
1) Eddy Curry’s expiring contract
2) Gallo
3) Wilson Chandler
TO NEW YORK
1) Carmelo Anthony
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
just did this
would yall do…
DENVER GETS:
1) Curry
2) Gallo
3) Wilson Chandler
4) Bill Walker
5) Toney Douglas
WE GET:
1) Melo
2) Ty Lawson
I just did the following trade on realgm.com
Knicks do a deal with the Hornets:
TO NEW ORLEANS
1) Eddy Curry
2) Gallo
3) Wilson Chandler
TO THE KNICKS
1) Chris Paul
2) Marcus Thornton
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
Are you really that interested in tossing gallo
CP3 is awesome, and in my opinion, someones leaving NO, but there are other ways to get there other than throwing Gallo on the trade wheel
I like Gallo
But the only real trade chip we got for a team to agree to take Curry off our hands is Gallo, unless you wanna keep throwing away first round picks
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
I hate these lineup scenarios.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 30, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I love Gallo
but Chris Paul is one guy (maybe the only one) that I would trade him for.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jul 1, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
not Melo....
Melo can light it up of course, but CP3 as a PG just makes the entire team better. Melo does too of course, not to the extent that CP3 does.
That said…I’d probably trade Gallo for Melo. ANd yes, I would chop off my pinkie in sacrifice
KEEP LEE!!!
Rick James: See, I never just did things just to do them.
Come on, what am I gonna do? Just all of a sudden jump up and grind my feet on somebody’s couch like it’s something to do? Come on. I got a little more sense then that.
[pause]
Yeah, I remember grinding my feet on Eddie’s couch.
Not saying Gallo is better than Melo, or anybody but Chris Paul
But I think we’ll be hard pressed to find that much value on a rookie contract for the next several years.
That said, Chris Paul is a hall of famer.
Now that it’s been raised though, I think I would include Gallo in a trade for the following players only:
HWSNBN
Wade (but with more protest than others)
S. Curry
Wall
D. Howard
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jul 2, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
In light of the fact Minnesota came out and said they'd be willing to trade Al Jefferson
On Realgm.com’s trade checker I pulled off a painless trade that did not involve Gallo:
MINNESOTA
1) Eddy Curry
2) Wilson Chandler
KNICKS
1) Al Jefferson
We would a nice young group of players in Jefferson, Gallo, Douglas, Walker, Jordan, Routins, and Fields. What do y’all think of this?
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
I think it is time to stop using RealGM.
I dont mean that to be offensive. Its just that none of the trades on realgm would happen and even if someone found the perfect one, what good does it do? Niot like you re gonna email Donnie Walsh and say “hey Donnie, how about this?” and find out later that Walsh was inspired by that email and went out and made the trade.
The thing is, Gallo is a huge piece of the Knicks future. We love him here and love the way he is developing. He isn’t just a “draft pick that we cant let go of”. We really think he’s very good and bound to get much better.
A guy like Jefferson is good, sure. But he has a knee injury history and the Celtics had no problem dumping their future C in order to bring in seasoned vet, KG. Jefferson thrived as the only option in Minnesota, but whn they brought in a complimentary PF in Kevin Love, the chemistry unraveled. Now LOVE is the guy Minnesota wants to keep instead of Jefferson.
I like Al Jeff though, but he has a lot of questions with him.
Also, the timberwolves grabbed a handful of SFs in this draft. Last year i was PGs, now its SFs. I’m sure they want to let Wes Johnson play SF and bringing in Chandler would likely crowd that frontcourt.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jun 30, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah your not being offensive
I just came to this conclusion that this trade checker thing is a farce when trades like Eddy Curry and Wilson Chandler for Andrew Bynum can pass the test. The Lakers would never do that.
To be clear, I wasn’t bagging on Gallo, I was just looking for ways to see how the Knicks can get a deal for CP3 or Melo. Not like they’d ever happen, but I just wanted to see if they’d even fly under the salary cap/cba.
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
On the somewhat bright side
I don’t see how someone ain’t moving from NO at the PG pos. I’d like to have Melo at SF for damn sure, just not at the Gallo’s
Those Trade Checkers
are only checking salary, not a willingness of either team to do a trade. So, no reason to be surprised that a “Curry and Chandler for Bynum can pass the test.” As long as the salary works, those things say, good to go.
Yeah, the RealGM doesnt factor in Player worth
thats is extra tricky because sometimes teams want to get rid of players because they are assholes or they bring in players that they really like. Both cases might not have to do with money..
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jul 1, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
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