July 1st, 2010: Knicks Begin Pitching, David Lee Hits The Market
by Seth on Jul 1, 2010 12:41 AM EDT
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Print5:32 PM: I'm about to head to a friend's place in the city. I'll be hanging out with our good friend Tommy Dee tomorrow. LeBron and others have been charmed, there are more meetings to come, and a few more rumors are popping up. Here's some of the speculation:
- Chad Ford says Chris Paul could still be a target.
- Richard Jefferson apparently has some interest in the Knicks or Nets. There's no reason to believe that it's mutual.
More as it comes.
3:30 PM: The meeting has ended. Alan Hahn just twat the following:
Meeting with LeBron ends after over 3 hours. Best part? D'Antoni said, "I can say it, finally: 'LeBron James' and no one can fine me."
Walsh, D'Antoni leave feeling "cautiously optimistic". Walsh called it a "non-committal" meeting and said he expects another.
1:56 PM: The Knicks are reportedly making their pitch to LeBron James as I write this. Meanwhile, Chris Broussard has this to say about Donnie Walsh's intentions:
It seems like a pipe dream, but the Knicks hope to sell James, Johnson and Stoudemire on the idea of taking far less money to come to New York. They will offer each player a five-year deal that averages $15.7 million with an opt-out after three years. Then, the Knicks would pay the players more since they'd have their Bird rights. Another big part of this plan is the Knicks' ability to sign another max-salary player in the summer of 2011 after Eddy Curry's contract expires. The Knicks have targeted Carmelo Anthony, assuming he doesn't accept Denver's three-year, $65 million contract extension offer.
If James doesn't go for that scenario, which is very likely, the Knicks will offer both Johnson and Stoudemire the max. Of course, if James is willing to go to New York with one of those two players, they'll max James and choose between the other two.
Remember that Johnson's already ruminating on a max deal from Atlanta. Take Broussard's hypotheses as you please.
11:12 AM:
- The Knicks will meet with LeBron James at 1:30.
- Amar'e Stoudemire's face-to-face will wait until Monday.
10:29 AM: Morning, fishes! Here's what's up at the moment, as far as I can tell:
- The Knicks are in Cleveland. Lord knows why.
- Joe Johnson is looking at a max contract from the Hawks. That doesn't mean it's over for the Knicks, though (for better or worse). How are we feeling about Johnson, guys? What about Rudy Gay?
- David Lee is letting those filthy people in Miami, Chicago, Minnesota, and New Jersey put their grimy little paws all over him.
- I've got to head out. I'll likely keep updating and commenting from work, but in the meantime, I'd recommend reading this article by ESPN's Johnette Howard and this all-day live free agency broadcast by our favorite Canadians. General free agency updates can be found here.
For the rest of the day, I think I'm going to keep new updates above the jump and tuck all the previous updates below the jump. That work? Cool. I'll check back soon enough. Let me know if you hear or read anything.
Mini-update (11:09 AM): Another place to follow along is at SBNNY, where Rodger Sherman (a member of the P&T Society of Exemplary Gentlemen (we have pizza parties)) is updating.
12:40 AM: Here we are. So far, we know that the Knicks are in L.A. to meet with Joe Johnson and Mike Miller, with Cleveland and Chicago up next. David Lee is headed to the Midwest to be courted, which makes me super uncomfortable.
I'm going to bed.
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who comes off the bench?
i feel like amare should, but wouldnt.
absolutely brilliant
kids and their technology these days-
David Lee!
Alright, I'm calling it a night too, hopefully I wake up to good news
"We're only going to score 17 points?" - Tom Brady
"Well played, Mauer." - Guy from PS3 commercials
With all due respect
David Lee needs to be resigned. I may be really happy or really sad on July 8th
by Justin_44 on Jul 1, 2010 12:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Agreed
Don’t want Amar’e or Bosh.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
Would rather have Lee
Better rebounder and passer. He’s improved each year he’s been with us. He won’t complain if he doesn’t shot the ball. He’s good for a double double almost every game. And he’s cheaper.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
Then you might be a little dismayed then
That of all the people the Knicks have talked to so far, the only guy thinking about coming here is Stoudemire.
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't care about LBJ and company
I’m more interested in Lee’s suitors. Does anyone know who else is interested besides Minny?
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/columns/story?columnist=howard_johnette&id=5344035
lmao the sad thing is its true :)
He'd probably rather be booed here
than by his beloved Cle fans if he left…..
lol true but i dont he’d be allowed to be a yankee fan
by J3TSFANFORLYF3 on Jul 1, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
That's just unwatchable for me
And with that lighting, I’m waiting for one of them to drop a crystal ball in the middle of the table to match the mumbo jumbo going on
Kinda reminds me of the millennium bug
All that excitement leading up and then everybody shuffling slightly when nothing happened. I’m wondering if the NBA are trying a big marketing spoiler with the World Cup final on July 11. No signings announced until then. Heh.
EST +5 hours is hard work sometimes...
This thing
is getting out of hand. I mean, i really just took a step back now and am watching all the bull shyt fly around and stick. So many dumb articles, stupid predictions, thought out stupid predictions. Everyone on nba tv and tv in general is Mrs daym Cleo right now. “Jay z is there.. and thats a big friendship taht can lure lebron to the nets”.. i thought only fickle bloggers used this seriously..not lawrence Frank. A real coach. smdh..
im ijust going to stick to P&T and wait for that REAL toast to poast and we can all just yap like schoolgirls on whats happening.
on some real, i’d rather talk with yall than to listen to ppl who get paid to talk dumbness.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
+300000000
I Believe in 80 wins
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 1, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
you the man now, dawg
"Game Knows Game"
by Ray Smuckles on Jul 1, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
dont forget to hydrate.
thats some hard ass work right there.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
It's amazing (but not so much) to me
The glut of unreadable articles on the “fate” of NY if we don’t get HWSNBN. First it’s how the City of Cleveland will be crushed by his dparture, now it’s how we’ll be devastated with Reggie Miller hate for decades if we’re “spurned.” Are we that unknowledgeable and shallow, and with such a low BB IQ? Sure, there’s plenty of losers in the world in EVERY city. Even when teams win championships and suddenly there’s lame brains tipping cars, burning shit, and pilfering stores. Sorry ESPN, but nobody’s gonna be checking out their ledge if he’s not here. Life will go on and we’ll still be the greatest fans in the world. Is you’re basketball IQ that low that this is the best you can come up with to pass as competent journalism? And when Chris Broussard EVER grow up? They’re worse than the lame duck Jersey fans, a select few, that are so insecure, they have to come over here to find intelligent posts, before leaving some lame empty banter because they have nothing to talk about their team. Nobody’s really that delusional to think plan B is better than Plan A, but, like the world class fans we are, we’ll still pack the floor and back whatever team we have, ‘cuz we’re true fans and at worst, this team will just have to take a short time longer to return to glory. Good to know ESPN doesn’t require unbiased, objective, intelligent journalism in their hiring process. Idiots gotta work somewhere.
everyone is just so flat out certain
that the Knicks cleared cap space for HWSNBN. And entirely too many idiots believe that (reason why I hate irresponsible journalism like ESPN is) too, so they think the Knicks fans will be “crushed” if they don’t land “plan A”.
Fuck em all, just win.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate this brohost they have on now.
He has been shitting on the Knicks for the longest time now. He doesn’t even hide it.
http://twitter.com/wmarv
just take names and numbers
cuz it’ll be the same idiots riding the Knicks collective dicks if they get good. “Donnie Walsh is a genius with what they had to work with, not getting HWSNBN”…..idiots.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
It's funny how they're all set up, cams n' all
JUST IN CASE….cuz their sources say…hello, sources? Anybody there? Anybody? Bueller?
It is a National past time to kick NY when we are down just let it roll off your back
I trust Donnie and Pringles, they will figure out how to get some good basketball played in the Garden and that is really all I care about.
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
i believe you're referring to
the dickensian aspect.
twitter.com/aighttho
http://aightthen.tumblr.com/
i can't imagine james to miami
and i’ll tell you why.
he would make significantly less money than wade. imagine that… ok, now you can rule out the heat.
twitter.com/aighttho
http://aightthen.tumblr.com/
the thing that "scares" about Miami
is the tax thing.
He can make more in Miami then anywhere (I guess aside from Orlando…) cuz of no state tax.
I don’t have the exact numbers, but a max deal in NY is worth really like 12-13 mill, so that’s about $4mill less per year then he makes in NY
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
How much would it be in Clevelend after the income tax I wonder?
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
still can't imagine james
allowing himself to be paid less than a teammate. ego
twitter.com/aighttho
http://aightthen.tumblr.com/
by stingy d on Jul 1, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What's even worse is under the present sure thing scenario Bosh would make more
Than Wade or Lebron. OH yeah plus Ray Allen is signing with them for League minimum, you can trust me because I am an expert!
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
My source
who I can’t name but who’s initials are ‘RC’, says it’s a done deal. You heard it here first, folks. That’ll be 200,000 dollars, please.
Well then again my source says that Lebron and Bosh to the Nets are a done deal
And you can trust me I am an expert!
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, thats really a minor but major point, unfortunately.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jul 1, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
For a max deal and Joe Johnson...I ain't too good on that, like not at all.
Rudy Gay ain’t that sort of shooter, at least from long range…tho its not out of the question for him to get better at it (example: Joe Johnson under Pringles).
So yea, if Rudy ain’t gonna cost nearly as much, that could be a potentially great signing. He’s got a ton of potential, but’s been wasting away in Memphis all these years.
Gonna have to show him the money, so 5yrs $60 mill is where I’d top off at, and really..if that’s what it takes, I’m good. Rather go less then that (like 5yrs 50 mill….) but Rudy’s got untapped potential. The Knicks getting Gay could be a good thing…pause.
And of cours….5yrs 60mill, is a lot better then the 5 yrs 95 mill for Joe Johnson, or thereabouts.
KEEP LEE!!!
according to yahoo joe johnson has been offered 6 yrs 119 mil by Atlanta
"We're only going to score 17 points?" - Tom Brady
"Well played, Mauer." - Guy from PS3 commercials
the Knicks can't offer as much as the Hawks
the former team can offer the most/longest contract
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I know, I don't want the Knicks to spend too much money for this guy either
Apparently he wants to remain in Atlanta
"We're only going to score 17 points?" - Tom Brady
"Well played, Mauer." - Guy from PS3 commercials
I'm happy he wont be a Knick
because he isn’t worth the money.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
No, apparently he is willing to stay in Atlanta for that money
big difference, haha
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jul 1, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
or so the reports say...
remember, 98% of this is bullshit….
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Shit...
Joe Johnson probably has no idea where that’s coming from…
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
It is confirmed that he was offered 6 years and Max money from Atlanta
Joe is staying, you you will not have to worry yourself about him.
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm starting to think
that Rudy Gay might be a bit too Harringtonesque. Joe Johnson knows how to pass. I think as a second fiddle to LeBron, he’d be great. Might be worth the max, but only if LeBron is there. If not, would rather go younger.
joe johnson is th ebetter fit
he doesn’t play sf… he can bring the ball up if you really need it. and he can absolutely bury the three if someone kicks it out to him.
rudy gay can’t.
twitter.com/aighttho
http://aightthen.tumblr.com/
could be true...
I guess it depends on what his actual role in the offense is. If he’s gonna be in the “Marion” role, then passing first probably not gonna matter. Or maybe he could be the Grant Hill dude.
The Knicks have never had a Rudy type player remember. Gay was a bit better of a 3pt shooter in Marc Iavaroni’s O (Pringles RH man…).
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
STAY IN NY DAVID
"We're only going to score 17 points?" - Tom Brady
"Well played, Mauer." - Guy from PS3 commercials
per woj
G-State restricted free agent Anthony Morrow has slew of interest, including Spurs, Celtics, Lakers, Blazers, Clips and Jazz, sources say
I hate that even if we miraculously somehow sign Joe Johnson away from the Hawks for five years of max money, I’ll still be incredibly bummed once I see the Jazz nabbed Morrow @ 4yrs, $15 million or some such shit
knicks should be on that list
something is missing in the way we approach fee agents.
twitter.com/aighttho
http://aightthen.tumblr.com/
Nothing is missing.
We could just be ninjaing this shit [via brian cashman]
http://twitter.com/wmarv
Why Morrow is a restricted Free agent
If we sign him to an offer sheet that is anywhere resembling fair market value, they will match and we spent all that time on him for nothing. We are looking at unrestricted guys first as we should. Unless you are suggesting that we offer Morrow something like Max money which he is not worth.
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought there was enough tampering going on
that everyone would have had everything planned out already.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
gay over johnson (LOLZ!!1)
follows the same premise as lee over amare for me. I’d rather have gay and lee, unless they ask for so much that their salaries become closer to the higher ups than they should be. Hopefully, that’s not the case. Plus gay can play a little SF too, we need 8 more of those
"Game Knows Game"
Wow naked cowboy singing a song about Lebron.
He isn’t coming near the city.
http://twitter.com/wmarv
i think the Nets are going to land LeBron
and Bosh, and Amare.
i don’t know if you guys heard this, but they put up a billboard and have a rich Russian owner. after all, everyone knows the Nets are totally going to take over New York City the second they move to Brooklyn. i think the Mets are going to take over NYC too, and the White Sox are going to become the #1 team in Chicago, and the Clippers will overtake the Lakers as the power franchise in LA.
i can’t believe the shit that these “experts” are saying.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Jul 1, 2010 12:13 PM EDT reply actions
Believe it. Do you know how you get to be an expert in the sports world?
Go on ESPN and either call yourself one, or have Stuart Scott call you one. These guys Know nothing.
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
heh
I mean, really, when I heard that Prokhorov was intending to turn Knick fans into Net fans, that sounded so stupid to me. It’s NY – most fans are entrenched, especially in the older, more established team. I think that loses him points if he starts talking that way. Is LeBron going to become a Met fan? I’m a Met fan, but I wouldn’t insult Yankee fans by trying to convert them. I certainly wouldn’t spend any money trying to do it.
the thing is
i grew up in southern CT and know a ton of Mets/Jets fans even though those two teams are viewed as the “2nd teams” in New York. it’s ridiculous to even call the Nets the 2nd team in New York. i know two Nets fans. two. i think i know more New York Liberty fans.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Jul 1, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
they are still the New Jersey Nets for now…not a NY team…yet
Really.
The move to Newark would help – the move to Brooklyn will help, but it will take many years and a championship by young homegrown stars for that team to develop a real strong identity, like the Mets and Jets have even though they are the ‘young’ teams. Wall really could have done it for them.
The Nets are still reeling from the Dr. J trade, my sources say. Done deal.
According to ESPN next season and multiple ones if they land Lebron.
But of course that doesn’t take into account that all of the players will be in open revolt against Avery Johnson by the end of the season, especially after he criticizes them behind their backs in the Media and then has the nerve to get out choached on the side line. That Hissy he threw about Dirk being soft was one of the best of all times, I am trying to find the link for it now.
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Well the Russian mobster needs to work on his ownership group
Because Jay Z spends way too much time at Knick games!
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I interned for the Nets
many years ago and you’re not lying. The organization then and now oozes with an inferiority complex of immense proportions.
Think about it. They played an exciting style of hoops and went to two straight finals and didn’t even sell out the arena then. And that was then.
All that said, there’s tremendous cache in having “Brooklyn” be part of your team name. Look at how many Cyclones hats you see around and no S.I. Yankees hats. The move will be one of the most beneficial moves in the history of sports.
But considering the nowheresville that the Nets are starting from, they have nowhere to go but up.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jul 1, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Queen James is coming to the Nets playa. Cuz
That gump ass bitch made punk Jay Z gonna let that bitch tap Beyonce’s ass. Hope the film it, dem lesbo sex scenes are always tha best!
It's hard to argue with that
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jul 1, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
There are enough Band wagon idiots in NY for him to claim that.
Remember back in the 80’s I was a Yankee fan, and there were like 7 million Met fans. Now everybody is an Yankee fan and you find few Met fans. It’s all about the band wagon. Like all of a sudden there are all these Jet fans in NY. Three years ago you could hardly find one who admitted it in public. Now they are everywhere. So I am sure you will see a bunch of Net Jersey’s in NY if the Nets landed Lebron.
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
good point
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Jul 1, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you ever been to Staten Island?
Always been a ton of Jets fans there. Loud too.
"Seriously, Lana, call Kenny Loggins ‘cause you’re in the danger zone."
Those 80s years and ealry 90s were hard to Yankees fans man.
All we had was Don Mattingly….
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jul 1, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that I have 1st hand knowledge about this, but....
This whole process reminds of the scenario where the warden approaches and inmate’s cell and explains “son, it’s time, do you have any last requests? do you want your last rights read?” Seriously, I just want to know one way or the other who is coming to the Knicks, and who is going elsewhere or staying with their original teams. Thank God, LeBron is making his decision by July 5th. I’d about not give a damn about any of these if this crap dragged through the entire month of July and into August.
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
Okay I will tell you because you can trust me because I am an expert
Chris Duhon for Max money.
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh oh
The Nets are preparing a presentation for Duhon. FUCK! He’s going to the Nets for sure. Sources say done deal.
lol
Prokov reminds me of Dave CHapelle…when he was doing the prince scenes…
he walks around like hes the shyt with money…but sounds like a dumbass who thinks hes smart
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
According to Stuart Scott He has more money than everyone in the NBA put
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
How much money would an owner need
in order to be free of the restrictions of the salary cap and the max player salary?
Answer: There is no such amount of money. So who the fuck cares who’s richer? It doesn’t help much.
Nah, Prokhorov is a sly businessman
I dunno about the couple reports questioning how he did it (natrually people jump to Russia mafia crap), but if Woj’s column about his proposal to Lebron is right (and i would bet it is exactly right) then it is an excellent plan.
He seems to be making some good moves for NJ. And Bruce Ratner was a good businessman too, but Prokhorov is light years ahead of him. He at least knows basketball.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jul 1, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
what column
post
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
Yahoo Sports, Wojinarodesrdgfgwowski
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jul 1, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
And even worse the Nets have enough money for him to bring Harrington and
Kwame Brown along as wing men. The balance of power in the East just shifted.
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell screw all of this, I think Dolan should just sign himself.
I saw a you tube a few years back where Dolan was watching a Knick Practice and then while in his suit hit a three himself.
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You guys are hilarious
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
minnesota
wow. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5345905
maybe love or jefferson will be on the move now
"Game Knows Game"
by Ray Smuckles on Jul 1, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmm.....
maybe the Knicks want to get Gay-Cock-Love?
Pauseable, I presume.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
jefferson sign and trade for lee?
wolves only have $5 mil in cap left
"Game Knows Game"
by Ray Smuckles on Jul 1, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess I'd do that.
of course, as long as the Knicks plan on surrounding him with shooters
KEEP LEE!!!
Ah.....
OK, now we’re talkin…… But like I said, Kahn just signed Darko, used up 5 mil of cap space on a guy no one else was probably going to sign. Kahn is a loose cannon. He’s fuckin’ up. If I’m Lee, I’m stayin’ away from that shit.
We’ll take Jefferson and Rubio for Chandler and our 2015 first round pick. You want cap space, you’ve got it. Now go try to sign Lee. Good luck!
hmm
forgot about rubio fraggle rock lookin ass lol.. Now i dont feel too bad about lee going to minny.. hope he wows them. And visa versa. Id like to see what they would offer in a sign and trade for the milkman
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
Celtics saw something in Jefferson
they had no trouble shipping him to Minnesota. KG or not. Now they draft an excellent passing PF and they cant work together? I’m very iffy on Jefferson.
PLUS, with his name being AL and him having no hair… I worry even more.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jul 1, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
KG or not?
c’mon man…I make that deal 10/10 times for K friggin G. That’s like trading a young Chris Bosh for Tim Duncan (sans championships). No one would have a problem with that.
I get the bad shit about Jefferson, but he’s still one of the better post scorers in the game.
Like any of these guys, not surrounded by basically anything. To me its all about getting parts, and Pringles should be able to make it work.
I ain’t 100% in favor of an Al Jeff trade..but I ain’t gonna be against it, he’s a good player ( and he’s 2 years younger then Lee)
KEEP LEE!!!
but al jeff
makes 12M a year..for how many more yrs? 3-4?
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
25 years old
can produce like any of these other PF’s. And it IS $12 mill. They don’t have to make a max deal to Amare or Bosh. Or overpay for Lee.
KEEP LEE!!!
So you would be ok with al jeff
as the 2nd pickupp? then just use the leftover money for other 2,3tier fa’s….
i need to youtube him..hows his defense?
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
sure....
Jefferson’s defense is no better or worse then AMare, Bosh or Lee’s.
Ideally, Lee and Jefferson on the same squad. Maybe HWSNBN too….
KEEP LEE!!!
No, my point is, aside from basketball talent
theres something about him that seems like bad chemistry.
I like the guy too. And yeah they paid a big price to get him, giving up KG… but Im just very skeptical
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jul 1, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah same
al can play center, but otherwise he offers nothing that lee doesn’t. And he doesn’t pass. AND he gets hurt a lot.
"Game Knows Game"
Intriguing
I don’t know how good Jefferson really is but he has good stats. Thing is, Lee would have to agree to going to Minnesota, and Kahn is looking kind of crazy right now. Also, that roster’s a bit unbalanced. I think there are several other options more appealing to Lee.
by the way Woj is reporting that the Knicks have arranged a sit down
with Duhon and Harrington. Could Kwame Brown be far behind?
we talked about this a while ago
and i am still not opposed to offering Squamous Brown the minimum to be a backup center. Bring him in to hack Dwight Howard or rumble with Perkins and KG while a bunch of Tokyoans flee for their lives? It’s a good deal.
"Game Knows Game"
The Knicks shouldn't sign anybody who don't have a sista Playa
Cause I gots needs man!
I think you MIGHT be going to that well too often, Shawn
Maybe check out “SB-Fill-In-Playername’s-Sister-BJNation” as an alternative?
stop moochin off the players sisters mayne
and pimp these ho’s that got better for less hassle at your local Wal-mart!! lmao
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
Jay Z is supposed to have the inside track on Getting Queen james
How is he gonna do that Let the Queen fuck Beyonce?
im sry guys
but he’s gone: http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/01/report-bucks-sign-drew-gooden/
For real though, Milwaukee scares me.
"Game Knows Game"
Im not scared
and you shouldnt be either.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
Aren't the Knicks up at bat now?
It’s about 1:30 EST…they should be in the room w/ LeBron RIGHT NOW…..
At this time yall
id like to present a toast.. to all the poasts we’ve made. the rosters we’ve slayed..and the dumbass articles that have made there way to us..
toast
donnie dubb…sell this team the best you can. Talk basketball, not city shyt. Talk about how the system is the key, the players style of play , not the pay, that are around you. And the the success joe shmoe can have in pringles offense vs what he and co can do.
and if he doesnt want to hear it..be a gangsta and a gentleman and shake his hand saying how we’re gonna kick his ass when he plays us as an opponent.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
I just hope the room is wheelchair accessible
so Donnie can get in and make his pitch….
Of course
All Lebron has to do is touch Donnie on the forehead and he’ll miraculously arise out of his wheelchair and do a couple of front flips.
maybe it's like when a princess kisses a toad and he turns into a prince
if lebron signs with NY, our gm (who it has to be said, looks incredibly like a toad) will become a beautiful princess and the two will live happily ever after in The World’s Most Famous Arena
Donnie is too tough to
Be a fucking princess
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right
And I’m very proud of that fact right now. Hey, it’s what I’ve got to hold onto right now.
truth be told, Walsh reminds me of Roger Ebert...
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jul 1, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Walsh is the guy with the green visor, un buttoned hawaiian shirt, ray bans, and a cuban while who is seated at the table for Texas Holdem
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
really what an insensitive prick making Donnie come out there in a Wheel Chair
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Cheers
I actually have pretty high confidence that Donnie is doing what you want him to do – talking basketball, with Pringles in on the conversation. Pringles is keeping it light. You can bet that Avery was all business and the Russian was a bit out of his element. Walsh and D’antoni, I think, will be the most relaxed out of all the suitors.
Dolan, hopefully, will keep his mouth shut, other than to say “I’ll spend what it takes”.
Houston hopefully won’t spill the coffee when he goes to get it.
I feel pretty good about the team we’ve got going in there. I wonder what happened in the Joe Johnson meeting?
I have always been confident in Donnie and Pringles
Pringles will explain the Spread Pick and roll offense and how Tom Thibs shut him down because his team couldn’t srpead the floor. How we got shooters galore and the money to go get more. How we will beat then down the floor and spread the court so wide, that he will average 50 a night. Donnie will sell him on the plan for building the team. But something tells me that Mr. James will not be moved by it all. At which time we will finally move on from this shit.
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
i think he is too.
Im sure the entire globe thinks we have no plan, or idea how to get he who to sign here without bringing up “just play for ny b/c we’re ny” .thats they most bull shyt ever. The spread system is built for a player like he who. And if he is really making a basketball decision, he will go against what i think his team is saying and wont sign with chicago(who they prolly think has the most talent)
but its not talent alone. its what you put on the court. the spread and the shooter we have/will get. should be more than enough for him to reallize this IS the best situation for him to win.
and with JJ…i think DA did a good job by himself(no walsh) they have had a great relationship so trying to pursuade him isnt realyl the question. Its really about will JJ take that georgia money and run.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
L'chaim!
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jul 1, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Darko gets $20 mil?
how could the Knicks have not recognized the future supermegastar that was right under their noses?
fire D’Antoni! fire Walsh!
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Jul 1, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions
that's really not a terrible contract @ $5 million per
he did well for the wolves and, as silly as it sounds, i think he’s going to be a more than solid rotation player in the A for the next ten years
No its a great contract! They now do not have enough to sig Lee
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
They prob weren't a serious threat to anyway
now Chi, NJ and Mia are a different story….obviously
why were they even talking to lee, anyway?
unless they’re def gonna trade love, which i don’t see why they’d do
can’t play lee and love together
and holy hell if jefferson ever got sign and traded over here that would maybe ruin my entire summer
Not Bad Salmons 40 mil, Gooden 32 mil. And you guys keep Calling Donnie and idiot.
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Wonder if Milwaukee is the new Detroit this offseason...
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jul 1, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
it's a fact
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
if that's a "Kids In The Hall" reference
I’ve found my permanent Knicks home and I’m a happy man.
I probably stick around either way tho….
Bucher reporting Phoenix/Stoudemire talks break down
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5346148
Probably gonna sign with the Heat, I’d guess
its gonna be sad if we dont get any great free agents
worst case scenario: lance stephonson gonna be good and we’re all gonna be like damn we shouldve picked him, and next year we’ll get a top 15 pick and houston will take it off our hands. hopefully the rockets do worse than us in the standings
In Donnie We Trust!
Take a Break and stop drinking too much coffee
Donnie and Pringles got this. We will be fine!
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i've never been more nervous in my life
for the last 10 years we’ve been shit, if donnie fukd up in the draft again because they didnt like a players attitude den im gonna mad. and if we miss out on the free agents too im goin into a depression lol
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
thts crazy money
these FA’s are breaking the bank. All these teams are scared of the NY/NJ/CHI/MIA cap space
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
yea I saw that too....
if it’s true….he probably should take it…lol
Who wants OJ Mayo?
Because they can no longer afford him. And By the way Marc Gasol is a free agent next year, wonder how they are gonna pay him?
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
I think, if they really like Gay, then this is the smart way to go. If they give him the qualifying offer, Gay will spend the whole season thinking about whether he is going to leave – and they could lose him. The Bulls lost Ben Gordon and it’s likely the Knicks will lose David Lee this way. Why not lock him up with a big offer now, if you think he’s worth it. I actually think this is a smart move by the Grizzlies. If they wait to see who he signs an offer sheet with and then match it, it’s like, bad vibes. It may be overpaying but he’s a young guy with a bunch of potential.
The GM in MInny is a Madman
He only had 10 mil to begin with, then he spent 5 on Darko and now that leaves 5 mil and he is gonna meet with Lee. Dude is crazy. But that also might tell you something about Lee’s percieved market value.
well
i think they’re thinking sign-and-trade. al jefferson’s name keeps coming up. i hope jefferson for lee isn’t a legitimate possibility, though.
Of all the Sign and trade possibilities why would Donnie choose one that makes the knicks
worse? and For 12 mil, like I said Madman!
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
hell fukin no we dont want al jefferson
den again jefferson is kind of like lee but he’s 24
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
im wit it, all star lee for draft picks or rubio and jefferson
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
so u dont like lee for rubio and draft picks?
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
NO! But you will get made love for the idea here.
Except they will want you to keep Lee and Trade Eddy Curry
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
then can take both jus give us rubio n sum picks
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Realistically,
if you look at all of the players who have gotten max deals or horrible deals already, Lee is looking at a max deal for sure. I don’t think he’s worth a max deal because he’s at his ceiling. Yes he is developing and I love what he does as a player but he is not max material when he only can add small wrinkles to his game and not be a #1 piece.
With the numbers I hear floating around...
for Frye, Darko, etc… I almost hope we wait to sign anyone. Once most other teams use up their available funds, the prices of some FAs will come plummeting down. Pipedream maybe… but even if we don’t get a top tier FA, maybe we’ll get a few 2nd tier on the cheap.
As someone else also mentioned,
we’ll be able to buy draft picks for the next 3 years on the cheap as well.
the sign and trade
would be for rubio and mid level player..maybe? Im not sure how i’d feel about that.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
kahn is retarded
evident by drafting 4 pg’s last year, 3 sf this year
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget he was trying to sign Rudy Gay too.
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing tops Mardy Collins and Renaldo Balkman
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by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
About the 1:56 update
I saw taht clip on espn web. Broussard is so daym stupid. They other guys at the table are looking at him like wtf. Hes stuck on the all 3 guys will take less than normal money and sign with us(or whatever team he feels like saying at the moment)
I mean, if it happens im wrong.. but that shyt is unreal to me.
And broussard also follows that statement with. “if that doesnt work, they will pitch to lebron that their starting center eddy curry is in his contract year and will play well in spite of this”
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
What does being an “insider” even entail? I can’t imagine it would be very appealing to be a part of a team organization only to get pestered by the likes of Chris Broussard every 5 min
thing is..
me and you and anyone else can say that “player is in contract year, he’ll try harder this year”.
doesnt take a insider to spit dumb news like that for updates.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
I think if it gets to the point that Donnie needs to talk up Eddy Curry to try and save the
he might just have Dolan sing instead.
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
If it get's to the point of talking up Eddy Curry, that's the point when the other party has already decide no deal.
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by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
the hawks are gonna b fukd for years if they sign joe johnson to 119 mil for 6years, 3yrs from now he'll be up grabs
In Donnie We Trust!
I know it is the Donnie Walsh effect.
That’s why you shouldn’t get that bent out of shape, all of these teams will be fucked and we will be able to pluck free agents and trades on the cheap. I think Al Horford is a free agent next year. Guess they will not be able to keep him/
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
in the midst of all this, ive come to realize the knicks are half fukin eveyr1 rite now. by that i mean this, every one that could potentially lose there best player will over pay ie: rudy gay and joe johnson. other teams go high first because they dont kno wat it will look like wen the teams wit space turn their attention to lower tier player ie:gooden and salmons
In Donnie We Trust!
Now you get it.
Think how fucked the Bucks are, Gooden, Salmons, and Maggette all on the books for big Dough. No depth and luxury tax hell. Want a draft pick? Bet the sell theirs next year! LOL
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
its possible
but i guess they feel they can win now. They are improving no doubt..but overpaying to be a above avg team…ehh, i guess thats what they want.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
LOL! Gooden is a scrub. Salmons and Maggette can't play together
It is gonna be a mess there. By the way Scott Skiles is never able to turn shit into shineola in consecutive years. Check his record he has never made the playoffs in back to back years. Then add the Gooden, Maggette and Bogut are all injury prone. It could get ugly in Milwaukee.
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard from someone posting on another site that Lebron walked out during the Knicks meeting, no sources or anything though.
any corroboration?
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
wow. can't even name the "other site"?
You can hang your hat on that one.
I heard that things happened with people somewhere at one time.
Obviously this wouldn't happen.
LeBron doesn’t walk out of meetings he is carried out on his throne or just flies away.
I got to say this
the Nets got 90 minutes, the Knicks Met with dude for almost 3 hours. Hey Tim still think he is going to NJ.
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
3 hours
Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that there’s more than merely mutual interest. I bet those 90 minutes were a favor to Jay-Z just so he can tell the Russian that he tried.
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by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
I really think LBJ
is the only prize to be had in this free agency. Everything else is going to be a rip off, ala Joe Johnson, even keeping Lee is going to be overpaying. D Wade is going back to Miami and probably with an overpaid Bosh while losing Beasley and Chalmers. Amare should scare the crap out of your long term after the microfracture surgeries. At this point I say wait till 11-12 and go for CP3 and Melo when there is less competition for them if we don’t get LBJ.
http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/07/01/dirk-and-kidd-meeting-in-ny/
lol u think dallas is twitching right now? lol i know its nothing tho he staying in dallas i think…
So Broussard sayin that Donnie's plan is to sign dudes and stay under the cap
then re-up for the max. Lebron, JJ, Amare and then Melo next year? What the fuck is that?
KEEP LEE!!!
Broussard
could say whatever the fuck he wants, dudes an herb; nothing he says holds any weight
Donnie's bout to beat the NBA game like he got a cheat code
Not done until he signs on July 8th
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
Wade met with Chi-Town for 2 hours.
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
Gay signed
That’s one guy we can rule out. I wanted him though
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
lmfao espn took a poll asking if the knicks plan will work...76% said no...thats fukd up
In Donnie We Trust!
86% of those Nay Sayers clicked from Chicago, New Jersey, Miami, and Cleveland
jmo
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
lol tru but espn is really goin in on the knicks
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
did any1 see the commercial of the lil kid and they asked him who are the knicks going to get. he took 30 slow seconds to answer...joe johnson
In Donnie We Trust!
probably paid to be a retard in that spot
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
Kelly Dwyer on Yahoo. No Likee the Joe Johnson contract
This man could be nearly half of your salary cap in a few years. We have no idea how the new collective bargaining agreement will shake out, but even under the ridiculous payroll runs of the last six or seven years, handing nearly $120 million to a 29-year-old who has yet to do anything more meaningful than dribble a lot and shoot a lot and look real tired in January? It boggles the mind.
Ouch
im wit it, he's not worth that money. 1 point for ny for crippling atlantas payroll
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the fact all these B and C level guys are getting Isiah Thomas like deals from teams other than the Knicks
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
kuz their scared of the knicks potential to take all the money and be usuals for national broadcasted games
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
not just NY
but mia, chi and nj too. and the clipps even though there unusually quiet over there
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
1 contract at a time
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by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
i want something good today..
when will we get word of anything, like monday? since lebron is meeting with the Cavs on Sat?
yea.
next week Monday is the supposed date for he who..i say supposed b/c i believe there will be more meetings… here in Ny next time. But the others will most likely speak about it next week.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
Karma Gods if you're out there please listen up
Seeing how the 1996-1997 Knicks were robbed of an NBA Finals opportunity because of PJ Brown’s body slam of Charlie Ward, combined with the fact that Pat Riley resigned via fax machine en route to Miami after 1995, can you please see to it Miami gives max deals to Amare and Richard Jefferson. Please?
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
Boy these GM's are spending money like
horny marines in a Bangkok brothel
Rim shot
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by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
I'm so excited!
I hope we get Lebron and I hope it’s enough!
This article made me a little nervous
http://www.msg.com/blogs/charlie-zegers/three-lebron-scenarios-1.45469
Per Chad Ford
“Sources say [Knicks, inter alia] in hot pursuit of CP3.”
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by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
fuk that, they can keep him if they want gallo. he tore his meniscus and he hurt his ankle. im not giving up gallo for him, they can have chandler and curry for him and meka
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
torn meniscus'
don’t impact you after they’re fixed. the only thing that sucks about it is a bigger chance of gettin arthritis in your knees when you’re older
Donnie's bout to beat the NBA game like he got a cheat code
yea
when you read the word sources..just substitute it with “my friend”
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
i hope they dont trade gallo thats all i ask for
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
they gotta give to get...
so…Gallo + I guess Curry?
or Toney Douglas and Will Chan + Curry’s expiring carcass?
KEEP LEE!!!
Sorry DWTDD but if it's CP3, than DWTDD it must be
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by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
the latter most likely
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
WOAH
@chadfordinsider Gallo for CP3 & Okafor. Hornets save nearly $100 mil [the Knicks could realistically offer/do this]
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by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
jus read that. i'd personally shit on the paperwork if i had a chance too
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Again relax on the coffee my friend.
No one is shopping Gallo. Ford is speculating on interest. The idea for getting Paul would be how much better he would make Gallo. So if that route were to go the Knicks would probably make an offer that suited them and if it isn’t accepted walk away.
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
lol i kno it was speculation, relax its jus a comment
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you for clarrification.
I’m still figuring out Twitter
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by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
I've said before
and again, that CP3 is basically the only one I’d go and give up Gallo for.
CP3 in Pringles system….and well…I dunno, I think that’s a pretty good incentive for HWSNBN to come here too.
KEEP LEE!!!
i dont see gallo getting better with any other team but us, with that said
as long as cp3’s knees are good i’d do it but we want draft picks or insurance on those legs
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
i think the fact that any of you guys are even pausing at the idea of giving up Gallo for Paul is insane
you make that CP3/Okafor deal in a hot second if the hornets were ever that desperate to save cash
lol...
so the Knicks trade for CP3 (bye Gallo :(..hopefully not tho..), send off Chan + whatever for Melo, Get Lee for less then the Max
and then get HWSNBN for the Max.
And of course, sinced they only “signed one max player”, they can now with the rights to CP3 and Melo, re-up them for whatever.
KEEP LEE!!!
and I'ma go to tha sto for my italian bread
before I see anyone tell me this has no chance..so suck on that.
KEEP LEE!!!
I'll do the Dance of Joy of this happens
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by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
if that was the case den im all for it, melo, lebron, cp3 and a few big men
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Phil Jackson returning to the Lakers
http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/100701philjacksontoreturn.html
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
just saw that on ESPN bottom line
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by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
best news today, that should make lebron think about goin back to cleveland
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Byron Scott just signed with the Cavs to be their coach
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by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
knew that already, not really a big fan of that because scott has a history of getting his players to play for a few years lol
then they start losing badly
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Scott is basically the same guy as Brown, except with less of a defensive acumen
Hiring Shaw woulda been the way more inspiring move, I think
Say what you will about the tenets of the triangle offense, but at least it’s an ethos
yea true, but scott does work well with pg's
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Channing Frye waiting on offer from the Knicks before considering the Phoneix offer
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by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
sounds good, i'll welcome him back as long as he knows he's a guaranteed bench player
damn we had three good picks that year, well now we do because i thought frye was a bust with bench potential…damn i was on the money
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
If he wants more than the reported 25 mil PHX is throwing at him
He might have to wait a minute for Donnie to call him
by Robert Currence on Jul 1, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
wat i cant figure out is how u throw 25mil at frye but u dont want amre to get the max?
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
so u give frye 25mil tho?
how many people are really worth the max money? lebron, deron, kobe, dwight, melo, wade, durant, and maybe cp3
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
They upped it to 30 mil/yr later yesterday.
They were like, “We really need Channing Frye as one of the cornerstones of our organization for years to come. He’s that good!”
I HOPE THIS IS A SICK JOKE FROM THE RICHARD JEFFERSON CAMP
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AmBMjogNYHmntvOSd7Bb.aW8vLYF?slug=ys-freeagentbuzz070110
Jefferson eyeing the Knicks
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by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i’d rather have al harrington back (AND I HATE AL HARRINGTON) than sign that asshole
by wilson chandler's neck tattoo on Jul 1, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
You didn't fall for the bait. Good
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
Bill Plaschke to James Dolan
You’re the New York Knicks, Act Like You’re the New York Knicks!
That’s code for stop complaining to the NBA about the Russian/Jay-Z billboard.
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
Shoot me
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
bring two bullets and we got a deal
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
LBJ could make $1billion if he came to NY
Forbes reporting that part of the Knicks pitch was a report from Interbrand stating that he could earn $300million more than his next highest option – staying in Cleveland.
EST +5 hours is hard work sometimes...
Come again?
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
Damn, as a layman I suspected this to be a slamdunk, now that article/study confirms it
That’s a nice F u to NJ, Miami, and Chicago
Why do i look at Popivich with a arm around a player talking with 2 minutes left, and get jealous?
by semsemma on Mar 10, 2010 8:00 PM PST
that could be made easily by lebron, even tho we cant offer as much to lebron in terms of contract and home warmth. we can offer him kingly status and world riches...
thats why they call ny the city of devils
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 1, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Channing Frye
chadfordinsider
Given what Gooden & Darko got, can you blame him? RT @sooperfadeaway Channing Frye turned down Phx 5 yr 25 mill offer. Wants full mid-level
We can’t still offer the MLE can we…and would we wnat to? I think its overpaying but…a big who can spread the floor would be a good piece to add to a Dantoni team
Donnie's bout to beat the NBA game like he got a cheat code
depends on what else we get I guess...
but I was thinking Frye gets like $7-8 mill per. Pretty sure the full MLE is $5.8 mill.
Knicks haven’t been great with the MLE obviously, but if they get the pieces, Channing is a perfect Pringles scoring option off the bench
KEEP LEE!!!
Yea real smart
Draft Frye when you shouldnt have… Dump him because hes a soft Power Forward who shoots jump shots and than sign him 4 years later because he has developed a 3 point shot. He sucks!!!! And hes still soft. Id rather have Harrington. We are gonna get shut out and Richard Jefferson is gonna be our stud FA signing
In 94 I thought i could die in peace... Now I watch a ranger game and just want to die.
keep that to the Rangers...none of that going on here.
Frye was drafted by Isiah and traded by Isiah, nothing to do with Walsh and D’Antoni
Its like the Rangers fired Sather and Brian Burke was cleaning house.
Getting Frye back is a good fit for the type of offense the Knicks want to run. Yea, he’s soft..but he can shoot.
KEEP LEE!!!
not to self
never do you ask for al harrington back!!
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
In light of Mike Miller's visit to NYC...
I present to you, the empty-handed Knicks fan, the 2010 Scrap Heap All Stars…
http://sportscasualties.wordpress.com/2010/07/01/lebron-a-palooza-day-1-the-scrap-heap-all-stars/
Am I crazy, or is this team good for 40+ wins with a solid coach?
I like that.
With all the $ thats supposedly being thrown around, those who whiff on the big boys will have a pretty darn good crop of role players to choose from. I’d so much rather have any 3 of those guys than Carlos Boozer
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jul 1, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree 100 percent. I think a lot of teams can improve significantly with these secondary players if they play their cards right. Knicks included.
by Robbie Hilson on Jul 1, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Travis Outlaw's been the dude I want on the Knicks
its says he’s “never been in the right situation”..well, a dude that can score like that, what better situation then a Pringles O?
KEEP LEE!!!
i'm on board with that
assuming they can get him relatively cheap.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Jul 1, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
can't see that he would really be
made $4 mill the past few seasons. Maybe they gotta pay by a mil or 2 more then others, but he can shoot the 3 (37% the past few years, and he shoots about 3 of em a game in limited duty…so its not some BS)
I’d give em the full mid level. I think dude’s got a ton of untapped potential. Maybe they don’t have to tho…who knows?
KEEP LEE!!!
J.J Barea's snippet...
“Ballsy and the definition of "spark plug." He’s a two guard in Gary Coleman’s body” – Does that mean J.J Barea is a pile of ashes? Because that’s what Gary Coleman’s body is right now.
Our Starting 5 Next Year Could Be
5 – Emeka Okafor
4 – Rooster
3 – HWSNBN
2 – Joe Johnson
1 – Tony Douglas
Would mean trading a bad player in Curry for a bad contract in Okafor, but we’d be balanced and competitive this year with:
- Long Range Shooters – Rooster, JJ and TD
- Solid Defenders – TD and Okafor
- Strong Offensive Weapons – JJ & Rooster
- All that & a can of Pringles – HWSNBN
Might have enough cap room left for 1 more cheap FA, and then we’d get mid-level exceptions in the future. Obviously HWSNBN named is the lynch pin…but do you think this squad could win it all, or would be destined to come up short? If you don’t like these 5, is there any 5 you think we could realistically land and win with this year?
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 1, 2010 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
yes
Earl Barron.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Jul 1, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Long term I'd Agree
Short-term I like Okafor (and max money JJ) only if it gives LBJ the confidence he needs to come to NY and believe he can win it all.
Would love CP3…but don’t see how we can work that trade w/o giving up Danilo and being maxed out with just 1 other FA. So even w/ LBJ we’d be weak at the 2 & 4 and limited at shooting 3 pointers.
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 1, 2010 9:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But Okafor's contract itself is long term
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jul 1, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Lesser of Evils
Would rather make an imperfect trade than miss the boat on LBJ.
If he’d come to NY and wait a year for us to turn Curry in something worth playing with, then fine. But if he wants a team that can complete for a championship this year and the next 2, this squad could certainly be as good as his Bulls option.
Okafor is only 28 and hasn’t missed a game in 3 yrs…I worry that he might be on the decline, but he won’t be getting pushed around by the same quality of big men in the East as he faces out West.
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 1, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
are ou sure about that??? Okafor sprains his ankles fairly a lot..
wow… its true. How the hell did HE become an iron man?!
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jul 1, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
CP3 to me is the #1 target out of everyone.
more so then Lebron. Getting him would probably all but guarantee HWSNBN as well, mind you.
Ideally, yea..keep Gallo. He could be that Peja for CP3, tho Peja was never really Peja for CP3. Can still get Lee, retaining his Bird rights cuz they didn’t sign 2 maxes
Getting CP3, dominoes would fall to an epic degree for the Knicks. But CP3 is more likely something that could happen at the trade deadline if the Hornets suck and CP3 is tired of that crap. Could go for Melo there too
KEEP LEE!!!
Didn't realize we could max out and still sign Lee
As long as we only signed one FA and added another through a trade. In that case yes:
5 – Okafor
4 – Lee
3 – yea
2 – does it even matter
1 – CP3
Would be the best for sure.
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 1, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Okafor and Paul are just over 26 mill going the Knicks way
and Curry and Chandler are $13mil going that way
So the Knicks only basically take on $13 mill dipping into their 30+ cap room.
Shit, if they could convince Lebro and Wade to take under the Max at like $15 mill, they could go over to get David Lee cuz of his Bird rights
So…
Okafor
Lee
HWSNBN
Wade
CP3
Chances it happens? 0.0000001%
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
They dont even want Curry
It would be Gallo for CP3 and Okafor. They shed salary that way.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jul 1, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds more reasonable..yea.
so take out Wade I guess…
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Without swapping Curry we'd be out of cap space
We could do a lot worse than adding CP3 and keeping Lee…but my trade was based on NO being willing (not wanting) to take on Curry in exchange for dumping Okafor.
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 1, 2010 10:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
theyd shed more if they took curry
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 2, 2010 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope
they’d shed more if they took nobody.
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jul 2, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
That work's if Wade and LBJ take 15M between them, not each
But if I understand what you’re saying about Lee’s Bird rights, we could sign LBJ & JJ and still resign Lee or even S&T Lee for say Bosh or Amare? I thought Lee counted against our cap (just like Wade does in Miami) unroll we renounced our rights to him…so however we play it we’ll only get 2 big contract players (plus Curry).
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 1, 2010 10:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that's true
I think they did already renounce his rights. Bastards.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
They didn't yet
Still even have Harrington’s Bird rights.
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jul 1, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
from what i understand of the cap...
In order to actually have the 35 million in cap room we have, we have to renounce his bird rights. Otherwise, he counts as 200pct of his current 8m dollar salary (16 mil). And obviously, if we renounce his bird rights, then we cant go over the cap to sign him
If im mistaken, please someone correct me.
I was under the impression that the cap hold on Lee
Is 150% of his previous ($7m) salary, so his hold is $10.5m
~$10M is Lee's Cap Hold
If you trust this NY Post Article
So you’re $10.5 number is probably right.
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 2, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
we would have to renounce lee's bird rights to sign two players
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 2, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Our starting 5 next year could also be
5 Big Bird
4 A finger burrito
3 Stray Ocelot
2 Random Spaniard
1 Comic Book Guy
Hmm…time for bed I think…
EST +5 hours is hard work sometimes...
Meaning you think LBJ to NY is an absurd fantasy?
Because that’s the hardest piece of the puzzle. Beyond that you’re taking on a player/contract that NO wants to move, and offering JJ a ton of money and a legit shot to win championships by being what he’s best at – the #2 option. This isn’t a Wade+Bosh+LBJ no way in hell scenario.
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 1, 2010 8:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
but it's still very unlikely
all "sources’ (take that for what it’s worth…) are saying that Johnson is leaning heavily towards staying in Atlanta. you’re talking about an extra year and $20M+ more that the Hawks can offer. i don’t see how LeBron comes to NY unless another domino (Johnson? Bosh? Amare?) falls first.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Jul 1, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Domino's would have to agree to fall together
I’m not out making bets this WILL happen…it just seems to me like one of our best shots to land LBJ.
For JJ, yea he gives up a final guaranteed yr. and ~$5M in contract dollars over the 1st 5 yrs. I think he can more than make up the contract dollars in endorsements and business opportunities in NY, but the biggest thing is what does he want out of life? He’s coming off a $70M contract and getting another $90M+…would he rather have another $20M guaranteed, or have a chance to win multiple championships and develop a Scottie Pippen like legacy in the most powerful city in the country (if not the world).
Maybe he takes the $ (I’m sure his agent would like that)…or maybe he realizes there are bigger and better things in life than just money (especially after you already have a ton of it).
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 1, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah...I was just being a smart arse. Sorry.
It was more a comment on the fact that it was past 1am over here and I was getting a bit FA happy ;-)
That said, I wonder how much the bookies are offering that all the top tier FAs stay put?
EST +5 hours is hard work sometimes...
that's probably a good thing...
Amir is nothing but a fake ass Chris Bosh.
And no, 2 fakes to not make a right
KEEP LEE!!!
Apparently we are unappealing to Johnson.
Good.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
the fact that he's taking the max in ATL
a place where that team clearly doesn’t have what it takes, the city 50/50 hates him too.
ATL’s management is incredibly stupid to go after him in that big a way after the way that team exited the playoffs.
So yea…I thought he’d buy in, whether with the Knicks or somewhere, but I guess not. Good riddance.
Of course….if all this is true. JJ doesn’t have to sign anything, and maybe he follows HWSNBN or one of the others. Fat chance, but the “sources” can eat my balls
KEEP LEE!!!
I don't know why
I had an expectation of everyone saying what they wanted to do at midnight. I could have avoided all sources that way.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
for real
he can stay in atlanta. take that money. but if he decides he wants to win championships, he should take the (big) pay cut and come play for our team. i would have a lot of respect for that.
by bobitostretch on Jul 1, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Atlanta's actually only missing a couple solid pieces
PF to some degree, at least a SOLID backup, and a PG who can actually stay on the floor to the benefit of the team. I’m not into speculating other teams, but get real, and just cuz dude may or may not take the jackpot, he’s obviously not as suck-ass as some people are making him out to be. Don’t take that as me wanting him here, I’m takin’ what we’re getting and rollin’ with it…just not at the expense of losin’ Gallo, TD, etc.
na atlanta jus wont get it done with the team they have. they fukd up wen the passed over both williams and paul
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 2, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
According to Alan Hahn
1 Half of the pick and roll may be set! Say hello to Mr. Stoudemire quite possibly
Despite his deficiencies, Ive always liked Stoudemire. I worry about his knees, eyes, and heart as much as the rest of you, but if that is who we end up with – I will still be very happy. Truth of the matter is, hes a top 6-8 PF in this league. I also really like the ferocity he brings to the game. Bosh plays too much like a pussy IMO. Also, I may be in the minority on this – but I think a Stoudemire/Lee frontcourt combo (provided there a defensive presence that can give you 18 min a game) would be a Championship contending front court. Even defensively, Lee can operate as the primary rebounder and Amare can protect the rim. Say you add a Mike Miller, Ray Allen or Ray Felton to the mix with the leftover money. I think that is a 55 win team, no?
I think Amare and Lee are too similar to compliment each other that well
Both are strong around the rim on offense, but neither can really extend the defense like a KG or Rasheed Wallace, so it’s tough for them to play off one another. Also, neither are particularly good defenders, especially against bigger, stronger players.
I think you choose one of the elite interior players and then need perimeter shooters – with at least 1-2 guys who can penetrate and create open shots or draw a double and dish – to run the spread offense effectively.
by Left Coast Cowboy on Jul 2, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
on a seperate note...
does anyone agree with me that LBJ/Wade/Bosh on the same team would be bad for the league?
no...still wont beat KOBE, D-FISH, ARTEST, ODOM, GASOL, BYNUM, JACKSON.
that team is a all star team by itself
In Donnie We Trust!
by IB on Jul 2, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Supposedly....
They are working on the numbers. Im hoping that means no max, if he was offered he max there would be no need to crunch numbers right? Amare taking less than the max to come here would show me he really wants to be here.
I wasn't posting this as a false alarm, just a head's up
Crunching #’s is just that, no deal yet. Sorry if anyone took it the wrong way.
If they do sign Amare then part of my plan would be correct. I was thinking Knicks could sign Amare and Lebron for 15 mil each for 3 years so they can re-up with them with bird rights and go over the cap, making up for the lost money the first 3 years and then take Lee and do a sign and trade throwing in Curry and Chandler for CP3 and Okafor
CP3
Lebron – Ray Allen if Lebron goes to 3
Gallo – Could be 6th man and we throw lebron at 3
Amare
Okafor
Just an opinion but fill out the roster and I would be ahppy
That roster
is like 30 mill over the cap
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jul 2, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Seth
I noticed you said you’ll be with Tommy Deeze nuts today. Maybe you can get some legit info from him rregarding his blog about the knicks mgm and amare “crunching numbers”. Does that mean we are just presenting ourselves just like anyother team? Or are we past that and are just trying to get a number we both agree upon.
“my friend” has said teams arent willing to give amare max dollars…and since we are crunching some numbers(id rather crunch on some alpha bits cereal) im guessing “my friends” were right?
my friend = sources
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
My same thoughts
That I put around here somewhere. I think he isnt getting the max, and if he can be had for less than the max, I dont think we can be too upset.
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