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A Recklessly Early Evaluation of Andy Rautins, Landry Fields and Jerome Jordan

What you are about to read is an undeniably insane rush to judgment. All of it may turn out to be true. None of it may turn out to be true. Most likely, some of it will.

I have officially wiped the slates clean for Rautins, Fields and Jordan. The only thing I have judged them on is what they have done so far in Summer League. Is this fair? No. But I'm judgmental and this type of stuff is fun for me.

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 Andy Rautins

 

A few of my friends are big-time Syracuse fans, and all of them liked Andy Rautins. He was clutch, he was great in that zone defense, he was a team leader and he improved every year. What more can you ask for in a college player? Rautins's strengths are his shooting ability and his toughness. His weaknesses are his lack of athleticism and his consequent poor man-defense. From what I saw in college, Rautins was more than just a shooter. What I saw in college is turning out to be just plain wrong.

Although I'm the biggest proponent of the "It's only Summer League" mentality, there is a general rule of thumb when you are dealing with Summer League. If a player is very good in Summer League, that's a pretty good sign. If a player is very bad in Summer League, that's a very, very bad sign. You see, players who are capable of playing in the NBA typically do pretty well in Las Vegas, sometimes pushing it to the point of showing off (just ask Anthony Morrow, Reggie Williams, Anthony Randolph, Nate Robinson, etc.). Hell, capable NBA players having a really bad summer still show that they belong on the floor and will sporadically abuse whoever is guarding them (just ask Bill Walker).

Andy Rautins, in each of the three games he's played in so far this summer, has looked like the worst player on the floor for stretches of clock. Never has he been the worst player on the floor thoughout the game (well, maybe once), but looking as bad as he has even for stretches, is a bad omen.

I like Andy Rautins and I know that what I'm saying is recklessly premature. I just worry when our newest "great shooter" goes 4-14 from three and 28% total from the floor. He isn't missing tough shots, either. He's missing wide open gimmes with no one in front of him. I worry.

Player Comparison: Eddie House

Landry Fields

When you don't show up on anybody's draft radar and a team takes you with the 39th overall pick, you had better be ready to show the management, coaching staff and fans something. It doesn't matter what, really, but you better have an NBA skill and start using it right away.

So far, from Landry Fields, I've seen several.

First, it's impossible not to notice Fields's efficiency. He's shooting 55% overall. A lot of these are on put-backs, as he is also second on the team in offensive rebounding with six, which is great because it shows he has the rare skill of scoring without having plays called for him.

Second, you have to marvel Fields's intelligence. When I watch basketball, like many other intelligent fans, I scream "Draw some contact!" when a player is shooting and missing. It's the best way to remedy a scoring drought and among the most efficient ways to get points. Of course, when you're hitting your shots there is no point in trying to draw contact. Fields did just that; hit his shots, for the first two games. In the third game, he realized his shot was not falling, so he used various counter-moves and fakes around the basket to draw fouls and get to the line Thirteen(!) times. That's on some Dwyane Wade shit. This speaks to his intelligence and recognition of the correct basketball play.

Third, as I just touched on, Landry Fields is and will forever be a very good rebounder. He is second on the team in offensive boards and first in overall rebounds. The guy beating him in offensive rebounds is seven feet tall. He was a superb rebounder in college, averaging nearly nine per game in his senior season, and it has translated to Summer League. I expect Fields to rebound efficiently in the NBA and pull in about one board for every five or six minutes of playing time.

The most major complaint I have about Fields is his lack of passing. Although he is not a ball-stopper by any means and he moves the ball fluidly along the perimeter, he has only compiled 2 assists in three games. Fields is seeing enough playing time for that number to be higher, but I suspect the coaches do not mind so long as he's developing in other categories.

Something else I wanted to address is Fields's defense. He has played pretty solid and is actually second on the team to Toney Douglas in steals, with six, doubling third place.

Player Comparisons: Less talented version of either Marvin Williams or Al Thornton

Jerome Jordan

Jerome Jordan is as raw as the day is long, pause. He's a seven foot squid with long arms and silly movements. He can and will set illegal screens and fouls off the ball in general very often. The only few things I wanted to say about him are:

- He doesn't have very good hands. Now, I know this has to do with him being a raw talent, but I feel like that's a skill that should arrive first.

- His concept of the pick and roll is sub-par and he needs to work 2-on-2 drills as soon and as often as he can. He seems to understand the gyst of it, but when he rolls off he needs to learn to expect the pass rather than acting surprised he got it.

- He has absolutely humongous strides, even for a 7-footer. He had a play during which he fakes a hand-off around the three-point line, then spun and drove to the rim in three total steps for a dunk.

- His post defense really isn't too bad. I haven't gotten to stare at his footwork or anything, not that I'm an expert anyway, but he hasn't gotten abused. The Knicks have been giving up way too many points in the paint, but that should be taken with a grain of salt due to the level of big men they've been playing against.

- He can block shots, but again the fouling gets in the way. The talent is definitely there, but the anticipation needs work.

Player Comparison: DJ Mbenga

Again, this is after just three games. These are just my thought on what I notice from each player.

Snap out of it, Andy!

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rush to judgement

seems fair so far though. i noticed rautins help defense was precocious. i guess that shouldn’t be a surprise. a little shooting slump is whatever though.

landry is encouraging. i think he will survive.

jordan needs a couple years in the d-league. i’d be more interested in giving his spot to junior pat.

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by stingy d on Jul 15, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

precocious is kind of good

like, supercalifragilistically. Do you mean atrocious?

by fuhry on Jul 15, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i meant

his help defense was good.

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by stingy d on Jul 16, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting read playa

However, think you oughtta wait til these dudes done had a full camp fo you break em down. Sometimes a dude like Rautins looks better when he is on the floor wit better cats.

by Shawn Harris on Jul 15, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah ur getting crazy

its only three games, the NBA style games are tough for second rounders to transition too. I dont see landry and fields and jordan getting much burn.

by Phillip P on Jul 15, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Guys, I know.

Read the title dudes!

It’s just meant to generate some discussion.

by Osborn on Jul 15, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i kno

it just shows the intensity of the NY fans. Pressure is whats its about!! i love it!

by Phillip P on Jul 16, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea

way too early man. All 3 are talented, but it seems that only Landry Fields is shining through.

Jordan, despite his age, is raw..but I like what I see every now and then. When his arms and legs move together, he shows there’s something there (what…who knows?)

Rautins can shoot…I just think he’s getting used to the NBA line and consistently shooting his J from back there. I still think he’s JJ Reddick, and even Reddick took time to put his 3pt shot together despite having the natural talent to do it.

I mean…Bill Walker looks like shit. Is he shit? I don’t thing so…

I still think best bet is for all 3 to go to the D league and get minutes.

Bye, Lee :(

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 15, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

i think fields can start on the NBA roster

the other 2 i agree… D league.

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Jul 15, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The funny thing about Jordan

is it seems like with the skills he has at this point, he’d be best suited to play the 2 or the 3. I’m not suggesting it, obviously, but he’s most impressed me with his midrange jumper and the occasional cut/drive to the basket. Basically I think, though he’s got a ways to go, if he could develop some of the “big man” skills he’s missing (posting up, boxing out, getting rebounds, generally being strong and assertive) he’d have a unique combination of skills.

by frilly on Jul 15, 2010 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Fields

Is a player. there’s no doubt about, you can’t fake this type of play for 3 games. He’s deliberate, under control, and I think he could be a good player for us. He reminds me a little of Doug Christie, though I hope he won’t have to leave the Knicks and develope into a fine player elsewhere.

I think it’s hard to judge Rautins according to summer league play. Since the talent level is pretty even, and since there is no cohesiveness with the various units on the floor at a time, I think it will be hard for Rautins to display what should be he’s bread and butter as a pro.
He’s a John Paxton, Steve Kerr, or a Danny Ainge at best. He should get plenty of open shots that he will be able to take in rhythm with the real Knicks, due to double team on Amar’e or/and shrewd 2nd and 3rd passes. If he’s atrocious from behind the arc whilst getting the shots he wants, then we have a problem. But right now he has to play against tight man to man defense that doesn’t need to compensate for mismatches elsewhere on the court.

by Nilov on Jul 15, 2010 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Fields too, but

Marco Bellinelli had one of the greatest Vegas Summer Leagues ever.

I’m afraid we can’t retire Fields’ number just yet, assuming he picks one.

"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"

by Serious Garbage Time on Jul 15, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this article.

I don’t think it is too reckless. I think this is too reckless.

Landry Fields
Player Comparison: Bill Russell

by GonzoTheGreat on Jul 15, 2010 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Russell

wishes he could shoot like Landry can.

"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"

by Serious Garbage Time on Jul 15, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree completely.

We may need Fields to give us quality time off the bench, considering we have so many roster spots available. I think it’s realistic more moves are necessary before the season starts. I don’t expect either Jordan or Rautins to get much burn at all. We need another veteran presence on this team. Hate to say it, but maybe McGrady is a keeper on a one year deal.

by gaga71 on Jul 15, 2010 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Small sample size I know

But Rautins has provided little evidence that he’s an NBA player. Dude needs to hit his open Js like whoa, cuz he’s pretty much a minus in every other category.

"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy

by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jul 15, 2010 6:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Rautins is exactly who I thought he was

Word to Dennis Green.

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by Hood on Jul 15, 2010 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Fields is exactly who I thought he was

I think he’s gonna be a great pro and potential starter. He could be the steal of this draft.

by bobzillla on Jul 15, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I almost like Landry to start as I’m not impressed from want I’ve seen from Walker. I haven’t followed bball for years and am now trying to get back into it. It’s hard following the Knicks from Florida. I’m new to the site, u guys seem to do a great job!

by cousinjay on Jul 15, 2010 9:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Also, I feel if Rautnis turns into Eddie House I’d be pleased. That dudes looked terrible.

by cousinjay on Jul 15, 2010 9:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Alright, I thought of this comparison a few days ago,

but I’ve been holding it back for fear of its rejection. But hear me out. Does anyone see Fields as being a bit like a 6’7 David Lee? Maybe it’s just postpartum depression setting in after losing Lee, but Fields seems to have a nose for rebounding, solid ball handling skills, great athleticism, good post moves, a consistent (though far from smooth) midrange jumper, fearlessness when going toward the rim, and most of all the kind of basketball IQ and hardworking mentality that makes him such a positive guy to have on the floor. Some differences in their games, obviously, but those are all things that we came to love David Lee for, and things that we came to expect from David every single second of every single game he played through his career. I know David did these things for way longer than Fields has, but when I watch the kid play, I can’t help but think of my beloved David Lee.

by frilly on Jul 15, 2010 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

No hate man.

Its natural to look for traits you like in other people. He seems like a hard worker, and he does all the little things right so far. His game isnt flashy, but its effective. That’s D Lee-esque.

by JerzeeBalla on Jul 15, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still thinking

A well off man’s Matt Barnes.

"He's the straw that makes the drink go."

by Thelonious Dunk on Jul 16, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fields has impressed me the most by far the summer , didn’t see much of him last year , he should get some pt this year ! not worried about Andy been watching him for years ( poor man Dan Marley)

by Darrin Skoda on Jul 16, 2010 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

LF

Landry Fields games on fast break is just too sweet. The man can penetrate into the paint zone area with ease…..He’s fun to watch and a hardworker.

by NYKFan4Life on Jul 16, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

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