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Danny Granger, Brandon Roy And Lap Dog Al Jefferson To Play In Miami?

Do not crown the Miami Heat champs just yet, these fellas did not actually sign with them. What the hell is this post about then you ask? Calm down and read along and you shall soon see my friend. My mind is very complex as you may come to realize. I tend to cross the line and post opinions and ideas others may not have the balls to voice. Sometimes I am object to fire with responds that range from, "Meh, I don't care much for this" to "I think this column sucks". I have also received praise such as, "Mike, you knock it out of the park once again" and "Seth hire this guy!". That's what I do it for. Compelling arguments during a time when "McGrady  had physical with Clippers Tuesday" makes front page news. So lets argue, here comes the juice. If I said the Miami Heat was the most hated team in the NBA as of now most would agree with me. They are hated for the three headed monster that consist of LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh. Not to mention that horrible "Yes We Did" slogan some jackass intern came up with... As people are handing over three or four rings to these guys, I on the other hand am here to expose them. I could care less about this sacrifice propaganda those three keep shoveling around. These three guys playing together are not gonna be able to be the great players (With the exception of Bosh) we've come to know and enjoy. It just cant happen, together they will devolve. Lebron becomes Danny Granger, Wade becomes Brandon Roy and lap dog Bosh becomes lap dog Al Jefferson. I'm not a Lebron or Heat hater. (Although I would love to watch them lose) I don't call Lebron, LeWuss and I don't call The Heat, The cHeat. This is just my honest opinion based on stats.

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                                                      The Devolution Of Three All-Stars

 

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    Lebron James

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                                                                                 Danny Granger

Before everyone begins to crucify me and everything that is unholy about this thread, before everyone campaigns for my immediate ban, before everyone says "Comparing Lebron James to Danny Granger is unrealistic", hear me out because I just did. You ready for sacrifice? Lets talk about sacrifice. Lebron is no longer the leader of the team he plays for. That leadership role has always belonged to Wade in Miami. That being said no matter what, Lebron's role has taken a major hit. The same role that allowed him to dominate in his career. James averaged 29.7PPG, 7.3RPG and 8.6APG but The big question is "Are there enough balls for everyone in Miami?" The answer is no when it comes to the balls of the male anatomy but is there enough shots for everyone? He averages 20.8 Field Goal Attempts and 9.9 Field Goals Made in his career. The numbers he produced last season are almost identical to his career stats at 20.1 Attempts and 10.1 Made. With the talent that surrounds him Lebron cannot  take as many shots or his teammates can never live up to their scoring potential. He will take less shots but not by much. This is where Granger comes into play. Granger averaged 24.1PPG, 5.5RPG and 2.8APG. With the exception of the amount of assist Granger produced, I say Lebron will resemble Granger's averages from last season. Granger averaged 18.4 Field Goal Attempts and 7.9 Field Goals Made. Although Granger only averaged 2 less attempts per game compared to Lebron, I believe Lebron is the least willing to sacrifice. Mark my words Lebron James will average 24PPG, 6RPG and 8APG in the 2010-2011 Season.

 

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   Dwyane Wade

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                                      Brandon Roy

 

How will The King Of Miami play with 2 All-Stars beside him? This is what he wanted all along. He, in my opinion, orchestrated this entire cockfest that tattooed the word hate on the city of Miami. Will he still own Wade County? Just like Lebron, Wade has always been the leader of his team. Fortunately for Wade, he still is the leader and can pretty much do as he pleases without catching any fire for it like Bron and Bosh would. Even if that is the case I do believe that Wade means sacrifice the most out of the three. He is the only one I have seen say it besides the one time Lebron mentioned sacrificing money for the opportunity of playing in Miami. Other then that Wade speaks for the bunch when talking about sacrificing everything from money and stats to their manhood. He's definitely been the lead singer ever since Lebron joined the Heat but its hard to say if he can keep that status on the court with his play. With Lebron and Bosh wanting touches of their own, how will he react to two ball demanding All-Stars? Wade averages 18.4 Field Goal Attempts and 8.9 Field Goals Made for his career. His averages from last season come close with 19.6 Field Goal Attempts and 9.3 Field Goals Made while also averaging 26.7PPG, 6.4APG and 4.6RPG. As I said before Wade means it when he says sacrifice, that being said I think he will resemble Brandon Roy next season. Brandon Roy averaged 16 Field Goal Attempts and 7.6 Field Goals Made while also averaging 21.5PPG, 4.7APG and 4.4RPG. If Wade actually means the term sacrifice on the court and limits the amounts of shots he takes he can average around 21PPG. I do give him an edge on the assist side as I did with Lebron because of the better talent they'll be playing with. Mark my words Dwyane Wade will average 22PPG, 7APG and 4RPG in the 2010-2011 Season.

 

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                             Al Jefferson

 

Chris Bosh is gonna be the odd man out with this trio hands down. He has superior talent around him and I believe he will devolve the most because of it. Everyone knows Bosh is Wade's doggy. Wade is Batman, Lebron is Robin and Bosh is Batgirl which he seems to be thrilled about.  How many shots are they seriously gonna allow him to take while also allowing Wade and Lebron to do their thing? Most of his attempts are likely to come from put backs and offensive rebounds. That is only if he doesn't get smacked around by bigger PF's and C's. Bosh averaged 16.5 Field Goal Attempts and 8.6 Field Goals Made with 24PPG, 10.8RPG and 1BPG in the 2009-2010 Season. I'm expecting his attempts and points per game to go down by a fair amount, which is where Al Jefferson comes into the picture. Last Season Jefferson averaged 14.8 Field Goal Attempts and 7.4 Field Goals Made with 17.1PPG, 9.3RPG and 1.3BPG. These are reasonable stats that Bosh can average next Season. Which brings me to my next point. Chris Bosh will not be playing for the Miami Heat after the the 2013-2014 Season. Bosh, Wade and Lebron all have Non-Guaranteed contracts in 2014 and Bosh is gonna be a goner. Would you pay a guy who averaged 17 Points, 9 Rebounds and 1 Block per game $110.1 Million dollars over 6 years? Or would you rather trade for (or sign during 2014 Free Agency) Andrew Bogut who makes 11 Million a year or Al Horford who makes 4.3 Million with a slight raises around the corner? Mark my words Chris Bosh will average 16PPG, 11RPG and 1BPG in the 2010-2011 Season. He will not be a part of the Miami Heat after the 2014 Season.

 

These comparisons are based on stats, not individual skills or traits. I'm not saying that Lebron James has Danny Granger's 3 ball, I'm not saying that Brandon Roy has Dwyane Wade's intensity and I'm not saying Al Jefferson is perceived to be as soft as Chris Bosh.  I believe together, this big 3 will statistically play near the averages of the athlete I have compared them to. I can be wrong, I can be right, but these are only mere opinions and speculation of things to come.

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Dwyane Wade
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Chris Bosh
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Eh..

Everyone, including them, knows their numbers are gonna drop. They all led their team in shot totals, in the case of Wade and Lebron by a ho lot. Can Lebron and Wade both get 20 shots a game? Probably not

The thing is that all 3 would likely be more efficient. Given you can’t double team all 3. And even if they do, Mike Miller can be a fairly lethal player if left open like that.

What would be really interesting is if they all can shoot over 50%, like well over 50%.

I’d much rather read, however, on if Danilo Gallinari can be more like Danny Granger, cuz to be honest I don’t give a shit about the Heat.

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 25, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

why do we keep talking about the heat?

take it to a heat blog, im sure theyll be happy to argue with you about all this

by babyeater26 on Jul 25, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

word.

I hope that all three rotate getting enteritis throughout the year.

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 25, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you know your enemy?

"As humans we strive for success but live with fear. If success was inevitable, fear cannot exist" Michael Kelley

by MikeTheIntern on Jul 25, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read that a while back.

Personally I think its crap and Marbury is just trying to seem relevant and bigger then this trio. “Yeah the Heat came crawling for my talents, but guess what I did… I turned em down!” lol But hey if he really did turn em down kudos to him.

"As humans we strive for success but live with fear. If success was inevitable, fear cannot exist" Michael Kelley

by MikeTheIntern on Jul 25, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is now. lol

I was wondering when we would hear from him.

"As humans we strive for success but live with fear. If success was inevitable, fear cannot exist" Michael Kelley

by MikeTheIntern on Jul 25, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to admit it, but LeBron is going to re-define greatness. Don’t get me wrong, I think what he did was chickenshit, but he never embraced the burden of having to be the Jordan-like scoring machine that has become the ideal model of greatness in the modern NBA. He will be more of a facilitator and will be a triple-double machine. He will create offense for both Wade and Bosh and everybody else. Yes his PPG will drop, but his rebounds and assists will increase dramatically. He will become the new breed of great player. The Magic-Big O hybrid.

And if they win, and he averages a triple-double throughout, he will be heralded as the new god of b-ball. He personify unselfishness, and he will inspire millions of little ones to try to notch a triple-double rather than hang a 30.

D-Wade will get his easy 30 and Bosh his easy 25, but LeBron will be the one that is celebrated with his very probable 19-15-12 per game.

by Crackback on Jul 25, 2010 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

You have to acknowledge the Heat.

I think it was a nice post. I think people are envious because the Heat got James and Bosh while keeping Wade. They are gonna be the monsters in the East and while we talk about how flexible our roster is and trading for Chris Paul we forget that everything we are doing is to compete against THEM. He’s trying to show that they aren’t gonna be as hard to beat as we may think. So in the end if you rather argue on a fairy tale of getting CP3 and Antony here, i’d prefer to speak on a inevitable matter which is going through the Heat. You have to discuss your biggest competition whether you hate them or not. Brush them under the carpet and it’ll bite you in the ass.

by 2017MaxCat on Jul 25, 2010 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I agree with you that playing together devalues each of them as individuals, and certainly costs some of their credibility,

but I think saying that they become Granger/Roy/Jefferson gives them each a bit too much credit because Granger and Roy can both play off the ball (whereas Wade and James need to have the ball in their hands at all times to be effective) and Jefferson is better than Bosh.

by frilly on Jul 25, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

You may be right on all accounts but

I only based the comparisons on stats only. All numbers.

"As humans we strive for success but live with fear. If success was inevitable, fear cannot exist" Michael Kelley

by MikeTheIntern on Jul 25, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Insults to the Heat

are greatly appreciated :D

"As humans we strive for success but live with fear. If success was inevitable, fear cannot exist" Michael Kelley

by MikeTheIntern on Jul 25, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the post (especially the shout out early!)

It’s interesting how you came to those 3 players too, Mike. The numbers do match and I could see this happening.

However, I think that lost in this new Villain Team in Miami is how excellent Wade and LeBron James are as players. Look, I hate Bosh as much or more than the rest of us, but dude DOES know how to clean the glass and and put up stats. I agree he won’t be the scoring threat as in Toronto, but i would expect his rebounding totals to remain about the same, as with his assists.

But James and Wade… these guys are terrific well-rounded players. Everyone is talkin about their effectiveness and how they “have to have the ball to be effective” and such, and I think it will not end up going down like that. Look, Wade and James have both been on teams with somewhat weak lineups around them. They have been easily the focus point of opponents gameplans and they STILL do what they do. Both guys can score with the best of them… both can crash the boards when necessary… and both can find the open man and playmake. Both of them have a scoring title I believe (actually, I think Wade finished 2nd once) and I think its foolish to think this team won’t have an incredible offense behind it.

I doubt Wade & James both score their usual 28+ ppg, but I doubt that both will be under 26ppg. These guys will make it happen, and like FreeBradshaw noted, they will probably become more efficient and, well, you just don’t have enough guys to contain both of them, let alone Bosh too.

I hope Miami loses like everyone else, but a big reason why people are against this team is the level of talent on it. Seriously, man, LeBron James and Dwyane Wade are friends, and Bosh is with them too. These guys have been “planning” this for a long time, so lets not get caught thinking they might not be able to coexist. They will. Miami is a daunting team to handle too.

I’d like to see the number comparisons of Garnett, Pierce & Ray Allen in their 1st year as teammates compared with the previous year. I think THAT may paint a closer picture because that Biog 3 is really the same positioning as 3 Men & a Baby in Miami.

"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."

by Chris Child's Fist on Jul 26, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll think about this.
I’d like to see the number comparisons of Garnett, Pierce & Ray Allen in their 1st year as teammates compared with the previous year. I think THAT may paint a closer picture because that Biog 3 is really the same positioning as 3 Men & a Baby in Miami.

Its like people don’t want to talk about the Heat but we have to. Always gotta be prepared. I’ll do a quick post about this once this Chris Paul hype calms down. That’s what people want to read about right now.

"As humans we strive for success but live with fear. If success was inevitable, fear cannot exist" Michael Kelley

by MikeTheIntern on Jul 26, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about a potential post about how the Knicks match up with Miami?

I would say that is pretty relevent here :-)

"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."

by Chris Child's Fist on Jul 26, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I can work with that.

Mentioning the Heat here is like blasphemy but I’ll do it anyway.

"As humans we strive for success but live with fear. If success was inevitable, fear cannot exist" Michael Kelley

by MikeTheIntern on Jul 26, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Yes We Did"

Isn’t that Piazza Hut’s motto?

by enron4515 on Jul 26, 2010 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it?

I’m a Papa John’s type of guy.

"As humans we strive for success but live with fear. If success was inevitable, fear cannot exist" Michael Kelley

by MikeTheIntern on Jul 26, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

More

a cop off the presidency campaign.. as if getting those three is as big as obama becoming president

Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do

by semsemma on Jul 27, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

That’s what I originally thought of when the slogan came out. “Yes We Can” became “Yes We Did”

"As humans we strive for success but live with fear. If success was inevitable, fear cannot exist" Michael Kelley

by MikeTheIntern on Jul 27, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

uhm...

i still think granger roy and jefferson is a championship contender..plus your adding assists to grangers stats…i really dont get the point

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by zlander on Jul 26, 2010 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Well...

Granger’s stats was a nice representation of what I believe Lebron would average next year. I added assist because there’s no way Lebron is gonna average 2 Assist. Sooo if you can find a SF that had averages close to Granger’s with more Assist feel free to drop a name.

And for your point of them being a contender if the did turn out to become them… That wasn’t the point I was trying to make. I was simply showing what I believe they will become when playing together, whether they are a contender or not. Personally I do not think those three have a high chance of winning together. They have a chance but other teams have a higher shot. Look at the Mavericks. Haywood, Dirk, Marion, Butler, Kidd. Knocked out in the first round by a team who got swept in the second round. A team can look great on paper but like shit on the court.

"As humans we strive for success but live with fear. If success was inevitable, fear cannot exist" Michael Kelley

by MikeTheIntern on Jul 27, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

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