NBA Playbook scouts Timofey Mozgov
by Seth on Jul 27, 2010 11:37 AM EDT
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PrintNBA Playbook is one of my favorite things on my computer (up there with "Trash". You can just throw stuff in there!), and Sebastian Pruiti, the hard-working proprietor of that domain, took some time recently to scout Timofey Mozgov. Since at least half of us are not Russian and therefore not too familiar with Mozgov, Pruiti's breakdown with words, pictures, and videos is extremely helpful. You should really go check out the whole thing, but here are some sample strengths and weaknesses of the new Knick:
Mozgov is able to go from running down the court to setting a screen almost seamlessly. This skill is important (especially when playing for a team that likes to play a fast pace game, like the Knicks) because now the offense doesn’t have to slow down and wait for the perfect situation to get the pick and roll going. This also catches the defense off guard, and makes the screens even more effective.
Timofey Mozgov isn’t just a screen setter though. Mozgov’s athletic ability at his size allows him to be pretty effective when rolling to the basket.
I just mentioned that when Mozgov doesn’t have to think and he can just react, he can be a pretty good defender. However, when he needs to think and make a decision on the defensive end, it tends to be the wrong one. Now, Mozgov’s team plays a lot of zone, so this lack of instincts when playing man to man defense could be due to lack of experience (which means it can be corrected/his instincts will improve with experience), but right now it is still a pretty big weakness.
Again, check out the full post for stills and video to back up those words.
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nice..love this sort of stuff
I like what it said there at the end, that the Knicks are “not a team that’ll make him do things he’s bad at” (which goes along with what AR said about Nelson vs. Pringles).
Dude can move. He does not look at all like some random 7"1 270lbs NBA guy. He does look lost on the D end a bit, so I guess that’s a negative if anyone expects him to be taught on how to become the Russian Dikembe (not gonna happen).
If anything, he seems comparable to a Andries Biedrins. Biedrins seems to have that David Lee type rebounding ability tho and I haven’t seen anything talk about Mozgov with if he’s a great rebounder.
But I can see him off the bench running the P&R with TD or Felton and mashing. On the D end it seems like he could be 6 fouls to give and maybe he’s got a nasty streak in him that takes no shit on that end?
Go New York Go!
For $3 million this year
(with the rest not guaranteed, I think?) taking a chance on someone with ceiling of Biedrins seems like a no-brainer to me. And for the $9mm/year that Biedrins makes, he’s not very durable or offensively capable and his free throw % is atrocious. So even if Timo doesn’t quite get there he’s still a great value. He’s also 2" and 30 lbs bigger than Biedrins without giving up any mobility. Plus, tall socks and no eurotrash hair gel issues.
Hair gel
Doesn’t Gallo employ that hair gel you seem to dislike?
if the cock has been guilty of some misdemeanor hair gel issues
Biedrins has a felony rap sheet a mile long
Hair Gel is OK
but when your FT percentage dips below 30 percent it’s time to re-evaluate your coiffure.
Looks like he was brought for rebounds and PnR play
other than that.. he has the athleticism that allows for room to grow within the system. He also can set about 5 screens in 5 seconds if he had to.
and he has tall socks
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
Seems to me
he’s got all the things you can’t teach (defensive timing, size, strength, rebounding, atheleticism), but needs to improve on the things that nearly everyone who comes to the NBA lacking is able to improve on (shooting touch, knowledge of when to switch on defense). I’ll take him.
great point
The guy has all the raw stuff, and if they can teach the things that are teachable this guy will be solid. PLus realistically what are we talking about with Mozgov? Maybe 15-18 mins a night? Just on Athleticism alone he will be able to get by for 15 mins a night.
by Robert Currence on Jul 27, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
High hopes for the comrade, but
don’t forget we still have the Barron, who played decent last year.
Why is he unsigned?
Will he be offered a contract?
Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong,
but if I recall correctly, the Knicks gave him a lowball extension at the end of last season, which he declined, but he hasn’t been offered any other contracts by us or others. I guess the thinking is that flexibility is still the priority.
seems to me
his offensive rebounding is good. but his defensive rebounding was not mentioned. my guess is he is just average on the defensive glass, given his instincts. but on offense, he could make an impact. seems easy to defend tho. and he needs to keep the ball above his head. any word on his free throw shooting?
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Seems to me
you pladgerized the subject line of my post!
That's a felony.
Report it immediately.
by schmosterballs92 on Jul 27, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
seems to me
you misspelled plagiarism. so it seems, we’ve sewn the seams. i have a notion to join a club and beat you over the head with it.
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Damn it!
It’s not my fault! I was on my work computer which doesn’t spellcheck what I write and it was too slow for me to do the old google search technique, so I decided to go with my gut! Not my fault I tell you!
honestly
i could care less how he plays.
the comedy that is to come from his saying things with a Russian accent will be well worth the roster spot.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
agreed
We have the depth in the front court to add someone for comedic relief.
And between Randolph, Amar’e and Turiaf, there is a chance one of those guys misses a few games this year and Mozgov will be asked to step into a 1st big man off the bench type of role
Hoping
I’m hoping you’re all not overly optimistic about him. I dunno if he’ll contribute at all this year whether we have injury issues or not. But if he shows any flashes of potential this year, we surely bring him back. I’m just keeping my expectations on this one low at least since they’re already high enough for the team in general.
Or maybe this is all due to the lingering Frederic Weis effect…
I know everyone hates Weis....
but pretty sure the big problem with him was he stayed in France. Molotov will be playing in the Garden…I don’t think there’s any doubts about that.
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 27, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Summer league made him cry
as he picked up 15 fouls in 5 minutes and was never heard from again until Vince Carter jumped over him on the way to the basket and he looked like he thought it was cool.
Guilty by association...
they’re both big men from across the pond. So the extreme frustration with the one carries through to the other until he hopefully proves my worries false, even if he’ll actually make it to NYC.
Something tells me that if anybody tries to tea bag this Mozgov kid
they might end up with their neck and nuts in a sling!!!
by Robert Currence on Jul 28, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus there's a;ways the Clyde factor
by Robert Currence on Jul 27, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm calling it now
you will hear this at MSG during at least one blowout (win or lose) this year:
WE WANT MOZ-GOV! clap clap clap-clap-clap WE WANT MOZ-GOV!
this guy will definitely be a fan favorite.
by latrell chokewell on Jul 27, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions
It is german
but it sounds phlegmy enough that the Garden crowd won’t notice or care. And that beat is perfect.
Uh oh!
"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"
by Serious Garbage Time on Jul 28, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
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What I like about Timofey MozGov (from seeing videos of him on YouTube), is his defensive awareness…He can grab both offensive and defensive rebounds and can block shots in the paint. I hope he carry that same intensity in New York.
If Amare's approach as a finisher even remotely rubs off on this guy he'll have a big impact.
As long as his role is clearly defined (i.e. rebounder, screen-setter, shot blocker, dunker) and he embraces it, he’ll make his presence felt.
I’m kinda hoping for a BIrdman meets Oakley (sans Oak’s sweet mid-range jumper). Just a muddy, bloody, shot-blockin piece of Russian nastiness. Someone that will just obliterate anybody that tries to drive the lane and quip,“No lay-ups” in a menancing Drago-like fashion. Someone who will take pride in making all 6 of his fouls count because he knows his time is limited.
Mozgov should apply The Costanza Rule
when on defense and he has to make a decision. Whatever he was going to do, do the opposite.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
I think I remember
reading that his name translates into Timmy Brains…. How about the Garden breaking out into zombie chants of brrrraaaaaaiiiiinnnnnssssss?
http://translate.google.com/#en|ru|brain
http://translate.google.com/#en|ru|brains
mozg = brain, mozgi = brains
An earlier comment on another thread seemed to tie in what the “ov” could add to the meaning, but I don’t recall. It doesn’t translate directly using that site.
Re: ‘ov’, someone has told me “i think it has its origins as a possessive suffix as in ‘belonging to brain’ but it’s not generally used that way anymore”
Looks Good
Mozgov can start and play by committee with R.Turiaf and J.Jordan.
All three should contribute about a third of the game towards victories.
Knicks Starters/2010
PG/R.Felton SG/K.Azubuike SF/W.Chandler PF/A.Stoudemire C/T.Mozgov
Knicks Second Unit/2010
PG/T.Douglas SG/B.Walker SF/A.Randolph PF/D.Gallinari C/R.Turiaf
Knicks Bench/2010
SG/A.Rautins SF/L.Fields PF/E.Barron C/J.Jordan
Mozgov ain't starting.
Gallo is.
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 28, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Most unique lineup I've seen...
Not only do you not have Gallo starting…but while on the bench, you have Gallo at PF and Randolph at SF? Switch those two at least…but I’d say Gallo starts at SF and Wil goes to the bench…then your lineup looks alright. I wouldn’t be too surprised to see Mozgov start.
when you first started posting
you were so far off it was hilarious. then you were so right on, it was bizarre. now i don’t know what to think.
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by stingy d on Jul 28, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well it is Only Off Season
Everybody just listen. D.Gallinari is not a starter in the NBA period.
Even D’Antoni has said in Vegas that Gallinari has to imporve or be out of the rotation.
Now thats a coach that is worried about his lob in two years.
D.Gallinari cannot play the three spot because the guys are to quick for him at the three.
He is better off servicing the team with the second unit as our PF. why? Because he can box out and rebound along with scoring at will more against the second unit talent. A.Randolph can play the three and defend while scoring on the break. Gallinari is just a spot up low post shooter rebounder and nothing more.
Wer have some new tough guys on the team like the old days. lets not get so lovie with Gallinari because he is not a tough player.
R.Felton/T.Douglas/B.Walker/W.Chandler/Turiaf/Mozgov/Stoudemire are tough guys whom you want to go to battle with.
u are wrong in so many different ways
im not even going to address it all
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
nOW nOW
Stop the name calling please.
your Gallinari is soft and also is a drama queen in regards to his basketball talents.
I want players with heart and that is something that he does not have. Don’t mix both together heart and drama.
He rally is not a starter in the NBA. Now if you want to go on and call names go right ahead. I ask you one thing, watch teh games and you will see he needs to improve in many ways. I am just saying he just doe snot have it as a starter. he has a chance to be a solid second unit player. You do need ten today to win.
i enjoyed reading your profile page
you truly are A True Sportsman Basketball Junkie
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
Explain what this means
Gallinari is soft and also is a drama queen in regards to his basketball talents
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
OK...
I think that just proved to not take you serious……
D’Antoni said what?
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 28, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Bonus Points
For being named “Timofey.”
Is this an Anfernee Hardaway situation?
by TheRealKingFish on Jul 30, 2010 10:37 AM EDT reply actions
well
if this guy doesnt work out we ll get perkins next year
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