Knicks Still Pushing For Fernandez
by MikeTheIntern on Jul 28, 2010 1:12 PM EDT
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I'm sure someone had posted something of this nature a couple of months back but we are still going after Rudy Fernandez.
The Bulls, Celtics and Knicks have engaged in trade talks with the Blazers regarding swingman Rudy Fernandez, according to a report.The Oregonian first reported the interested parties, citing Fernandez's agent, Andy Miller.
He is the Shooting Guard that we have been asking for but is he what the fans want? He shoots 38.7 percent from behind the line for his career (2 Years) which was news to me. People are automatically including Wilson Chandler in the trade talk but as far as I'm concerned his name has never been mentioned. I couldn't find any trade proposals that the Knicks made to them so if anyone can share a link of any proposals that would be much appreciated. As you can see Here the Chicago Bulls offered James Johnson and their 2009 First Round Pick for quite some time but the Trailblazers never showed interest. What will we realistically have to part with to land Rudy? I'm all for bringing him here... At the right price.
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Yes.
Rudy is a good player that’s misused a bit in Portland. He’s a good 3pt shooter, but he’s more then that and was for a number of years in Spain. On offense he could be exactly what we want as a 2-guard, tho his defense isn’t gonna exactly help a lot…tho I’d assume we’d really not care. He could be our Jason Richardson-lite 2-guard. Plus Bookie can man the bench anyway for D.
The problem lies in the trade. Portland wants Gallo for Rudy…and well…I’d want to trade Eddy Curry for Pau Gasol too, but that doesn’t mean I’m gonna get it.
Chandler’s little arrest may be what’s killing that deal, as for some reason it translates to a Jail Blazer type dude…which pretty sure we all know that Chandler is not that sort of dude.
As one final move for Donnie to make, I’d really hope they can somehow pull this off.
There’s absolutely no leverage for Portland in this case since they already have Brandon Roy and also signed Wes matthews to a big deal, so they’re gonna want to deal him. Also the Celtics really don’t have room. N8 is probably the only bait, but he makes $4mil, so the Blazers would have to add something they don’t want to.
And as for the Bulls…is James Johnson > Wilson Chandler? The first rounder their adding is gonna be low, so is that a big deal?
Go New York Go!
yeah let's do this
Fernandez would kill in this offense. Any team that tried to collapse on Amar’e would just get smoked with him and Gallo spreading the floor. Moreover Rudy can slash, run, dunk on Dwight Howard, has a great handle… and to be perfectly honest, he’s at least as competent at PG as Toney Douglas is at this point. Plus he is super cheap.
I like Wilson Chandler well enough but if push came to shove I’d trade him straight up for Rudy. We have more than enough SFs on this squad already, but a sweet-shooting 6’6" combo guard is just what the doctor ordered, especially if we keep Azubuike so we can turn up the volume on D when need be. Chandler just doesn’t have the handle, the court awareness or the range on his jumper to start at 2 and he’ll have a NINE million dollar cap hold at the end of the season so he’s probably outta here anyway. He’s a better defender than Fernandez, yes, but let’s be real, he’s not Ron Artest or anything. I think part of that reputation comes from the fact that he was one of the few Knicks last year that gave a shit.
Anything more than Chandler’s not worth it though. I’d rather a package like Walker, some cash, and a second rounder or get a third team involved that’s willing to part with a first round pick. Unless another team steps in to make a play for Fernandez (and why would the Bulls do that, they just signed 2 SGs?) in I think we can wait a little while for the reality to sink in over in Portland that Fernandez will just go back to Spain rather than ride the pine behind Brandon Roy (and now, Wes Mathews) for another year.
F--- that noise
Am I really the only no? Although I probably do feel “depends” but that idepends, I’m all for it if we can get him for Gallo…juggling at a future Blazers company function. I am not a big fan of Rudy and I think he will sap minutes from the guys we have, so even straight up for Wil I don’t want to do it. As time has gone on I have become more psyched about seeing bukie play, lets go to war with what we have
How do we get better if we swap Gallo for Rudy Fernandez?
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by Chris Child's Fist on Jul 28, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Do the Blazers have a small forward besides Batum? Nope
Chandler would be a perfect fit for their obv SF gap in the roster since playing Roy at the SF isn’t conducive to winning…
I think The Don is
Pushing for this to appease us. Fans know we need a SG and I don’t have any problems with Rudy besides his commitment to the NBA and his body mass. Dude is skinny. I’m just hoping Donnie doesn’t allow us to get raped in the deal if it does happen. Lets keep it simple. No crazy stuff.
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Yes Yes Yes!
Have both and plays whoever is hot.
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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 28, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm down.
I love Fernadez’s game and think he would kill in a D’Antoni offense.
But I don’t see a good fit on their end. Fernandez is crazy cheap, so I’m not quite sure what they expect in return. Another cheap, but better guy? Do they exist? Fernandez is on the books for only 1.2 mill.
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by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jul 28, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions
well what are they doing with Rudy?
Wes Matthews should be the first SG/SF off the bench now, with all the money they gave him (for whatever reason…). They made a draft trade for Luke Babbitt, who’s a 3pt specialist type SF.
Every move they make seems to push him further down the bench and out of the rotation..which I’d think is why he wants to leave anyway.
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 28, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't get it
Personally, I think that some combo of Kellena / Bully / Toney / Chandler at the 2 is a better fit for us. I understand that Rudy is a good shooter and a good passer, but he can’t play D much. Who sits if the Knicks get him? I just don’t understand what the huge appeal is. Even if Azubuike is not 100% at the beginning of the season, we have Toney and Chandler there. Now, Chandler may have trouble guarding some 2’s, but he creates a huge mismatch on the other end. And though he’s not a great 3 point shooter, he’s not absolutely awful either, and his shooting percentage from inside the arc is awesome.
i don't doubt the d
because i haven’t watched him play enough. but i don’t think its strictly starter’s minutes he’s after. i think he feels like he could play on the ball more. but mcmilan wants him to be a spot up shooter. thats the impression i have anyway.
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I get the feeling
You want no parts of Rudy Seth :P
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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 28, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i like rudy a lot
just not sure about his role in new york. i’d have to see the offer on the table first, nom sayin?
Yeah
I get you on that, there isn’t much I’d give up or him. I’m hoping we dont ruin our smart offseason on this guy.
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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 28, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
but i wouldnt mind giving up Chandler. I think hes definitely gone at the end of the season anyways, so why not get two years of Rudy for cheap.
Plus the guy has never really been given a chance to develop in Portland. Outside of the Blazers Ive only seen him in the Olympics, and that was a completely different player than the Rudy who is on the Blazers now.
Agreed
And agreed.
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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 28, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Never had a chance to develop
That’s what they said about Serge too, and he didn’t look all that great.
i love walker, as many of us do
but that is an excellent trade for NY
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by Ray Smuckles on Jul 28, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus
Chandler’s trade value is low right now because he’s been hurt and because of the pot thing. So if they don’t want Chandler, who else are we going to give them? Toney? Uh, no thanks. I prefer the D. Bully? Doubt that would be enough, though I’d make that trade. Rautins or Fields? Dangerous move – hard to know if it’s worth it.
Maybe I wouldn't trade Bully for him
Bully was an efficient player last year that took the shots that came to him within the offense and didn’t force stuff. And didn’t complain either.
Plus, he’s Bully. We want him on the team when we face Miami.
Rudy can handle the rock
like…PG caliber handles. That’s a big difference with him vs. Bookie/Walker/Chandler.
Bookie from what I’ve seen is a spot up 3pt shooter and Defender. Walker is a 3pt marksman, but can slash if need be. Chandler is more of a 3 that’s good inside the arc.
But Rudy is a playmaker. He’s probably more like Walker at defense, but I’d think he’s a lot more complete on the offensive end then any of these guys. That’s one of his problems in Portland, he’s merely slot in as a 3pt specialist, but really he’s more then that. At least from what I saw in video from his international games.
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 28, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
he rammed on dwight howard
made the entire usa team look bad in the process
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Yea yo
That dunk and the one from the dunk contest that he got jobbed on. That shit makes me understand why he’s frustrated that Portland wants him to be a spot-up shooter. Dude is athletic, fearless, and pretty versatile with the ball. I can see why D’Antoni wants him so bad. He really seems like the missing link in that starting line-up.
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by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jul 28, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
word.
His D would be problematic…but couldn’t this dude be a lot like Felton in that he’s playing in an offense that doesn’t use his talents correctly? I dunno what sort of O they run, but well..the word I see is he’s used as a 3pt shooter, and with Roy and Aldridge I would think that the Blazers are more of a half court set type deal…
Knicks ain’t about defense anyway. Said it somewhere, but he could bring a lot of dynamic offense like Jason Richardson does for the Suns. Missing link indeed.
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 28, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of good points being made here.
Its got me thinking.
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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 28, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
blazers have one of the slowest pace in the game!
but also one of the higher 3’s attempted rates.
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Whats happening
With the Griz and Xavier Henrey last I heard, they didnt want to pay him,maybe they would deal him for Curry’s contract.
Yikes
Eddy’s contract is worth a bajillion times more than just picking up a rookie. If he’s getting dealt, its going to be part of a larger trade.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Jul 28, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
since he ver played a summer league game he can be had for cheap
trade away a draft pick to compensate and cash considerations and we got somebody better than rudy off the bat
The only time ive been impressed of him
was in the game against the USA. He has a decent 3pt shot but has been more erratic with it as of this past year. Honestly… I’d have a hard time deciding if trading chandler for rudy straight up is a good deal. Rudy is not a great shooter like most say. what he brings differently from Will is his shooting and handle, he is also aggresive..but for some reason i have more faith in chandler’s versatility and upside than i do rudy’s 3pt shot right now. Rudys mid range isnt as great as i thought either.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
i would be sad to see IllWill
go for Rudy.
For cp3… ok.
Something about IllWIl. I LOVE the fact that he has ice running though his veins. Can throw down a monster dunk, and just walk off like nothing happened. That shit is cold man. In this day of players going crazy off the littlest things (See LBJ dancing his ass off), I feel like the guy that just stares and plays the game is almost more intimidating.
I dont wanna trade our silent assassin. He is such a strange character, I wanna see what happens to him with real players playing next to him.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
yerp
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
with that
“Raymond is a great point guard,” Chandler said. “He’ll attack and pass the ball. I think he’ll be great in D’Antoni’s system. Amar’e is a great player, dominant force down low, and I think he’ll really open the floor for guys like me and [Danilo Gallinari].”
I would love to know what Chandler actually calls Gallo there… any ideas?
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
Not Trading Will for Rudy
Alan Hahn reports that according to a source who has knowledge of the situation, the Knicks are not offering Wilson Chandler for Rudy Fernandez, whom the Blazers have made available.
The Knicks have high interest in Fernandez and could absorb his contract with their remaining cap room, but the Blazers are looking for a draft pick in return.
The next first-round pick the Knicks can trade away is their 2014 pick since the team’s 2012 pick is committed to the Rockets if it is not one of the top five selections.
Thoughts?
Yeah I fucked up the formatting
but I REALLY want Rudy on our team, especially if it doesn’t come at the expense of Ill Will.
by GonzoTheGreat on Jul 28, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks!! I asked for some insight and you delivered!
This opens things up a bit. I wouldn’t give a first round pick up for this guy. Case closed, next topic!
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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 28, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
next year
we have the rockets 1st round pick if its worse then ours.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
that is correct
although I think we have 12 picks in the 2nd round next draft. and 38 of em the year after that.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
it says 2014 is the next one they can trade.
even so..we’re giving up a 1st rounder for Rudy Fernandez?
I dunno what tehy’re offering, but if its not Chandler…and I highly doubt they’d have Gallo or Randolph in a deal instead of Chandler, what could they possibly have in there?
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 28, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm...
Bully!!
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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 28, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd love to see what Bully's got going forward...
but I think I’d do that. Basically the same style player (athletes that shoot the 3, not much D, cheap).
I think Rudy’s a bit more of a sure thing then Bully tho. Still not really sure of Bully’s potential, but I don’t think its more then Rudy’s, and Rudy’s is probably greater actually. He’s done a lot at a big stage already.
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 28, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Id give up Walker in a sec for Rudy.
I’d rather give up him then give up Ill Will. I have nothing against Bully but he didn’t impress as he should have in the Summer League which makes me doubt him a bit. I thought he was gonna kill in the Summer League. I’d take Rudy straight up for Walker. No picks involved tho.
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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 28, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If its Walker and a 2nd
I think I’d do it.
I’d be concerned about Bookie starting at this point, tho I’d like it. But while I’m not sure if Walker can start, I’m fairly certain Rudy could and would.
Felton-Rudy-Gallo-Amare-Turiaf (or Randolph..hopefully) would be a hyperathletic quintet that has 2 deadly 3pt gunners (and Felton’s not a slouch 3pt shooter, fuck what ya heard).
Of course, overall…I’d rather just see Bully be that. So I guess like Currence says somewhere…neither for not against it. Its got its pluses and minuses.
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 28, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah a 2nd.
I forgot about those picks we got from the warriors. Id do that. and finally someone agrees that Felton can shoot the damn ball from behind the line! No one gives him credit for that. Or anything ever since the CP3 rumors came out. We turned our backs on the poor fella.
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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 28, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
um
wilson and landry fields for rudy and armon johnson?
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pretty please
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by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jul 28, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
why not just wait for Armon to be a FA?
I’ve read they’re choosing between him and Patty Mills.
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 28, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really ooposed to trading for Rudy
But not for it either While Rudy does shoot well, he is a terrible defender and when he is not hitting his shot he gives you nothing. Chanler gives you versatility on defense and is a better rebounder, and since rebounding could be a weak link for this team, I am not sure I am ready to sacrifice Wilson’s 5+ boards a game for Rudy’s jumpshot.
by Robert Currence on Jul 28, 2010 4:39 PM EDT reply actions
Good Point
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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 28, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
i guess i agree
is rudy’s d really that bad? i’ve not seen him play enough to have a sense. cus chandler’s is good, but not so amazing that i can’t part with it. and rudy at least gets 4 boards per 36 minutes. pedestrian, not atrocious.
looking at both of their stat lines, its honestly a very even deal that gives each team a little more of what they need.
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I would scream if the trade was made, but it is not an even deal
While I mostly go along with you guys these days to get along when you start comparing stats, there are things that do not show up on a stat sheet. Chandler is a far more versatile player, Rudy is pretty much a one dimensional guy, now while when he is on that one dimension is pretty good, but he is not on every nightht and can be off for long stretches at a time. Plus Rudy tends to pout when he feels he is not getting minutes and enough shots. Children gives you zero headaches in the locker room and just plays. Chandler’s versatility makes him slightly more valuable that Fernandez.
by Robert Currence on Jul 29, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Hahn hath twat!
Source tells Newsday the Knicks have nothing Blazers want to make trade for Rudy Fernandez. POR wants 1st rnder. NY can’t offer until 2014.
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Jul 28, 2010 5:27 PM EDT reply actions
And the follow-up twat!
Also from Hahn:
More on Rudy Fernandez/Knicks scenario: NYK doesn’t want to give up Chandler, even to get a 3rd team involved to include pick.
It’s over.
"He's the straw that makes the drink go."
by Thelonious Dunk on Jul 28, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
damn...
props to Donnie I guess, I got the sense they felt Chandler was more expendable then that. I done thought wrong
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 28, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
psh good
though chicago is coming out of the east if they get him. pluses and minuses for real
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by Ray Smuckles on Jul 28, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
what?
what are they offering then?
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by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jul 28, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably
Walker and a 2nd rounder.
Don’t think Portland would do that though.
I’d love it if we did that.
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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 28, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
same thing i said, walker and 2nd rounder. but other teams are in pursuit now and might offer better deals. cause chandler and fernandez on the floor together is a vision im sure walsh and D’antoni got, cause the both run well in that system.
Boston Knicks and Bulls
Bulls tried to give them James Johnson and a first rounder before the draft and they didn’t take that. What young pieces could Boston or Chicago offer thats better then what we have? We might serve them Rautins as well. Since they used Rudy for 3 pointers, give them Walker and a 3pt threat in Rautins.
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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 29, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Im not saying
What we can offer is great, but do Boston or Chicago have young talent that they are WILLING to move?
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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 29, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
you know that should be a even trade
Rautins for fernandez. and probly trow a 2nd rounder. wait did we get two 2nd rounders in that deal for jerome jordan? we can keep walker tho just to have a group of aggresive guys on the roster..
u mean chandler and rautins?
Im not down for a Will Rudy straight up swap.. I think chandler can be more than what Rudy has become.
and rautins + 2nd rounder… well, that would bring rudy to the bulls or celtics.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
I mean walker and rautins.
If Hahn is right we aren’t trying to trade chandler. If thats the case i can only see us giving away walker, a rook and a pick of some sort. That has to be our offer. We aren’t gonna give anything else away for Rudy, he isnt that special. Donnie wants Rudy and chandler and that would be a nice combo. Im tellin ya, I think the deal is Walker, Rautins and a 2nd round pick. Probably even Fields instead of Rautins. One of those rooks are in the proposed deal, i can feel it!
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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 29, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
thats to much
i dont think we should be givin up so many players for him. they wasnt givin him burn like that you know. we know he can shoot but. we need will, i luv will here in new york. rautins and a pick. adding walker is giving up to much for rudy. think about it. walker is very talented and will. they can be allstar guys.
It is a lot for rudy.
But unless we completely took the offer of the table i cant see what else we would offer.
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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 29, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
i mean its not alot
but so you realy think rudy is worth us giving up walkers potiential and rautins (fresh) with year ahead of him.
I wouldn't
Maaaaybe for walker but not him and rautins.
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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 29, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
it seems that donnie
has portland by the balls.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
lol
as gross as it sounds, i think donnies got everyone by the balls
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by Ray Smuckles on Jul 28, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
that's been the word for a while....
Portland is asking for the moon for whatever reason…they have absolutely no leverage right now (Rudy’s not gonna start, and gonna be like the 3rd SG off the bench at best ).
Dunno why they’re asking for so much, but I think Chicago was offering a first and some POS, so he’s probably going there.
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 28, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
If that goes down,
T-Mac’s probably without a team, once again.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Jul 28, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't think Chicago was going to sign t-mac anyways
even though he started referring to the Bulls as ‘We’….. it’s kinda sad, actually.
And of course
his clone will be Ydur “Oflodor” Zednanref
No
Bad defender, jacks up threes all game long. D’Antoni would like him though.
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TURRIBLE!
not just trows up 3's
this guy rudy is a high light dunker as well. when rodriguez was on portland they was called the latin connection. i seen sergio trow alot of alley-ops to rudy, and he is a great finisher.. if we kept sergio and get rudy forget about it.. felton, sergio, and toney douglas. man that looks great.
although that was his limited role in POR
he does jack up some shots.. and is very inefficient with his midrange. Keep chandler.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
He's also not a bad backup PG
he’s just not allowed to do it with Portland. But yea, he whines and doesn’t play D (tho he does give effort on D if he’s scoring and in the game on the other end).
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 29, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
i dont kno
rudy fernandez is just ok as a player but no way im giving chandler up for him
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