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Signing Greatness Vol. 1: A Retired Knick, Who Would It Be?

I've been so beaten to death with all the Chris Paul speculation that I had to come here in my beloved FanPost Editor to catch a breather. Lately everyone's been gawking over CP3 while I on the other hand, entered a state of tranquility and thought of a interesting question. Hypothetically speaking, if you could sign any retired former Knick in present day and have him play as he did in his prime who would it be? Of course something like this can never happen but it turns out that this was my exact reasoning behind posting this. There is so many Knicks that I would absolutely love to have back. It was hard narrowing the choices down to a top five, but now that I have shall we quit the small talk and get creative.

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5) Allan HoustonFor me, Allan Houston is one of the most memorable athletes to put on a New York Knicks jersey. This guy would come out every night and rack up at least 17 points like it was nothing. I was actually hoping he still had some of his game left in him when he wanted to come back but his knees just couldn't do it. He called it quits in 05' after 12 years in the NBA, 9 of which spent with the Knicks. The 2002-2003 Season was his best as he averaged 22.5PPG while shooting 39% at the 3. He wasn't great with assist, he wasn't great with rebounds but he was a damn great shooter. He ended his career with a total of 1305 3 pointers earning him the 10th spot of most 3 pointers made in NBA history. Speaking of history, anyone remember the 1999 Game 5 Eastern Conference Finals? Of course you do. Let me remind those who do not. Knicks made it to the Eastern Conference Finals as the #8 seed. Our opponent was the #1 seed Miami Heat. In the Fourth Quarter the Knicks were inbounding the ball down 76-77 with very little time left remaining on the clock. Houston gets the inbound and hits a jumper with only 0.8 left on the clock. We go on to win the game 78-77 which eventually leads to us eliminating the Heat and making it into The Finals. Sign this guy and start him at the 2. Him and Gallo on the perimeter would be outfreakingstanding! Here's a lineup I bet none of you guys have seen, Turiaf, Amare, Gallo, Houston, Felton. Its time for war.

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4) Bernard King-  Sadly, I cant remember ever seeing him play live but the stories I would hear about King excited me enough to do some research. Usually explosiveness and finesse are at two different sides off the spectrum. When it came to Bernard King he was a breed of both, slashing inside for dunks while also being able to break down his man for easy tear drops and running jumpers. This style carried him to being crowned with the 1985 scoring title averaging 32.9 PPG as a Knick. This was the best season of his career as he averaged 32.9PPG, 3.7APG and 5.8RPG. My favorite Bernard King moment(s)... The Texas Massacre. On January 31, 1984 he made history becoming the first player to score 50 points in consecutive games since 1964. I was fortunate enough to catch both games on ESPN Classic recently and they were amazing. He took out the San Antonio Spurs effortlessly. It literally seemed like he never missed, he went 20-23 in a 117-113 victory. The very next day he scored another 50 going 20-28 in a 105-98 victory against the Dallas Mavericks. Although he had a great career Bernard King's story has not yet been completed. He is arguably the most underrated legend that has ever played for the NBA. 17 years have passed since King's retirement and he still has no spot in the Hall of Fame. If we signed King he would bring explosiveness, energy, authority and even some humor! Turiaf, Amare, Gallo, King, Felton. Bernard King deserves to be in the Hall of Fame more then some of the guys in there. That's a fact, tell em' I said that.

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3) Walt FrazierWho doesn't love Clyde? He's the brilliant mastermind that invented the phrases that have become a part of everyday life for Knick fans everywhere. Stopping and Popping, Driving and Thriving, and of course Posting and Toasting! Walt Frazier was great, a legend in the minds of even his most hated rivals. Same as with Bernard King, I've never seen him play live but as a Knick fan you have to see some Clyde footage from back in the day. I'm gonna describe him in one word I very rarely use. Stellar. He was amazingly stellar. He's a 6'4 Point Guard that could rack up steals, grabbed rebounds, he lead the Knicks in assist with 4,791 and he could score. His court vision was outstanding, its like he knew exactly what would happen 10 seconds prior and would deliver passes at the speed of light better then Peyton Manning. He could also steal the ball faster then you can say Stealing and Peeling. Blinking while guarded by Frazier was disrespectful to his stealing ability. Take your eyes off of him for a second and those quick hands would give you a wet willy, a wedgie and the need for a Manu Ginobili nose bandage all before he steals the ball for an easy fast break score. The 1974-1975 was the best of his career stat wise. Frazier averaged 21.5PPG, 2.4SPG, 6.1APG and 6.0RPG. He produced the best stats that year but the 1970 and 1973 Seasons are the ones we will never forget. The years he helped win us the championship. In the 1970 Finals Game 7 at home against the Boston Celtics, he led us to victory with 36 Points 19 Assist and 5 Steals. We sign him and put him on the court with Amare and let the highlights pour in. Turiaf, Amare, Gallo, Azubuike, Frazier. Got ourselves a championship squad fellas. Get ready to party like never before!

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2) John Starks- There's few things I love more then a good cinderella story in sports. Recovering from a devastating injury and silencing all critics ( Bernard King), Taking out the leagues most dominating team and winning the Championship while doing it (1973 Knicks). These are great underdog stories, John Starks has an cinderella story of his own.  After going undrafted Starks scratched and clawed his way into the NBA by playing in the Continental Basketball Association and the World Basketball League. He finally made it into the NBA signing with the Golden State Warriors in 1988 and later with the New York Knicks in 1990. During a practice Starks tried to dunk on Patrick Ewing who basically put him on his ass while making him twist his knee in the process. The interesting thing is we were planning on releasing Starks but due to his injury we could not unless it healed by the end of that December. He didn't heal quick enough and we were stuck with him. Can you imagine, we almost released John Starks... My heart skipped a beat. That injury kept him on the Knicks and Starks gives Ewing credit for his success in New York knowing that if it wasn't for that injury he wouldn't have ever played here. He was most known for "The Dunk" when he dunk over Horace Grant and Michael Jordan as you can see in the above picture. Starks averaged 19PPG, 5.9APG and 3.1RPG in his best year with the Knicks. Just like with Houston we would have Starks and Gallo as perimeter threats and Starks brings in defense. Maybe even the rebirth of ugly ball!? Turiaf, Amare, Gallo, Starks, Felton. Can you dig it!?

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                                   1) Patrick Ewing

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Now here's a Knick I can actually remember watching. Patrick Ewing... Does it get any greater then him when it comes to the Knicks? Ewing was one of the unlucky greats that unfortunately played in Michael Jordan's era and eventually ended his career ringless. Although he failed to bring a championship to New York City, he still is the greatest Knick to ever touch the floor in my opinion. He pursued a championship ring relentlessly throughout his years in New York and if it wasn't for him we would have never built that historic dynasty in the 90's. No ugly ball, no intense Pacers, Heat and Bulls rivalries, no nothing. Without this man we would have never had exciting playoffs games, never made it to the Finals or ever been feared. He brought intense defense, intelligence and a brutality style of offense that could rarely be stopped. He also had a unstoppable baseline jumper and for a man of his size and length he surprisingly stroked it like the best in the league. He was simply a force to be reckoned with at both ends of the court. He led the Knicks in nearly every stat that there is, Rebounds, Points, Field Goals Made, the list goes on and on! The most memorable moment from Pat for me has to be Game 7 in the 1994 Eastern Conference Finals. After a missed lay up by John Starks, Patrick Ewing brought the hammer down dunking the ball with 26 seconds left. Reggie Miller air balled a three pointer which led to the Knicks closing out the game with free throws. Pat had a monster 24 Points, 22 Rebounds and 7 Assist that game. There wasn't any underestimating this guy, he was an animal. In the 1989-1990 Season he went off averaging 28.6PPG, 10.9RPG and 4BPG. Imagine having him next to Amare Stoudemire on offense and defense. Its too much power going on at once. Then you still have Gallo on the outside and even Randolph being a sly fox, sliding under the radar unnoticed for open looks. Lets be real here, there isn't any center in this league right now that could have gave Pat a run for his money. Dwight Howard but thats about it. Pat faced far better big men in his day, Alonzo Mourning, David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Karl Malone etc. If we had Ewing in his prime the amount of damage he would do to these "Centers" would be devastating. As a matter of fact Dwight Howard wouldn't even stand a chance, he isn't on the level of competition as the centers of the 90's. Patrick Ewing and Amare would dominate the league. We will bring back that Knick defense that scared so many even with D'antoni coaching. Ewing, Amare, Gallo, Azibuike, Felton. We could finally get this man the RINGS that he deserved. Sometimes a man's effort outweighs the amount of wins another man has and no one put more blood, sweat and tears into the New York Knicks then this big man Patrick Ewing.

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                                                                 Honorable Mention

Earl Monroe- After being traded to the Knicks in 71' Monroe formed the "Rolls Royce Backcourt" with Walt Frazier, eventually leading to Knicks winning in the 73' NBA Finals.

Charles Oakley- You may be tougher then leather, but you are not tougher then oak! I forget where I read that line but it sure tickled my fancy.

Latrell Sprewell- December 1, 1997 Warriors Coach P.J. Carlesimo was attacked and choked by a masked assailant during an early morning practice. The suspect escaped but returned to the scene of the crime 20 minutes later to land one last punch to the jaw of Carlesimo. The criminal was restrained and unmasked... Latrell Sprewell was suspended for the remainder of the season.

Willis Reed- Reed torn a muscle in his right thigh during Game 5 of the 1970 NBA Finals causing him to miss the remainder of Game 5 and the entire Game 6 as a result. In Game 7 Willis Reed hobbled on to the court to everyone's surprise leading to an 113-99 Knick victory.

Larry Johnson- Many remember Larry for his four point play against the Pacers in Game 3 of the Eastern Conference Finals, I like to remember him for a more humorous moment. He and Alonzo Mourning engaged in the fight which led to Coach Jeff Van Gundy hanging onto Mourning legs. Mourning dragged Van Gundy around like a rag doll until the brawl was finally broken up.

Poll
If You Could Sign A Retired Knick In His Prime Today Who Would You Sign?
Patrick Ewing
97 votes
John Starks
11 votes
Walt Frazier
28 votes
Bernard King
25 votes
Allan Houston
11 votes
One Of The Honorable Mentions
8 votes
Other
4 votes

184 votes | Poll has closed

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Bernard King

Was basically a better version of Carmelo Anthony is his prime. He’s the game closer. Of course this doesn’t factory in how often he was hurt. If I did that, it’s a push between Ewing and Clyde, probably. Houston in his prime would have also really stretched the floor and been a great weapon.

Also, sorry, Starks just doesn’t belong on the top 5 of this list, assuming your numbers correspond to anything like a ranking. I recognize it’s subjective and based on whom you’ve seen but his talent and production is dwarfed by King, Ewing, Clyde, Reed, Houston, Sprewell, Monroe, Debusschere, Bellamy etc.

Well, either those guys or J.R. Reid. He retired, right?

by gbnypat on Jul 29, 2010 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I just loved Starks.

He’s one of my top favorites Knicks of all time and me personally had to put him on the list. Its not like he’s a complete bum he brings skills to the table. I didn’t want to put the players with the best stats on the list because that would be kind of generic. I put the players that I liked that I would like to have back and if everyone looked at it that way everyone’s list would be different. If I made the list the top 5 best players in Knicks history statistically then everyone’s list would be the same which leads to no debate or argument.

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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 29, 2010 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I get that you like John Starks but there is no way he should be ranked above Walt Frazier

on any list anywhere on the planet

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by Major on Aug 2, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Elephant in the room for Starks

Dude saved his least clutch game for when he needed it most. I hate it when people ignore a career’s worth of blood, sweat, and tears because of one bad game, but man, I have a hard time forgiving him for that one.

And yo, MSG needs to chill with the replays of him “dunking on Jordan”. He had a wide open baseline dunk. I know… washing down my hater-tots with haterade, but lets be real here. Its unbecoming to gloat about a non-highlight.

"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy

by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Aug 3, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

the dunk

could not have come at a better moment tho. thats why its such legend.

i loved starks, don’t get me wrong. but to fail that badly- and ewing was open- thats never forgive action right there.

furthermore, you really can’t put starks on the same level as frazier and ewing. he had a good run, but was not in their garden, so to speak.

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by stingy d on Aug 3, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

to put it in perspective

i don’t really think allan houston should be in a top 5 of this nature either.

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by stingy d on Aug 3, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

this.

Houston was my least favorite player on the team those days.

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Aug 3, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

for real

I would have preferred if the OJ Bronco “chase” happened during game 7 instead of game 4……just to avoid having to witness that display.

If you're a real Yankee fan, please do the rest of us a favor and splurge the extra cash on a replica jersey without a last name on the back. Frankly, it's embarassing.

by total hermination on Aug 3, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

*the display being starks

why are replys not replying correctly??

If you're a real Yankee fan, please do the rest of us a favor and splurge the extra cash on a replica jersey without a last name on the back. Frankly, it's embarassing.

by total hermination on Aug 3, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Other

Michael Doleac. He’s getting his Masters in physics – dude has brains.

If you're a real Yankee fan, please do the rest of us a favor and splurge the extra cash on a replica jersey without a last name on the back. Frankly, it's embarassing.

by total hermination on Jul 29, 2010 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

ok for real.....

Ewing. When I was first getting into basketball as a kid I have to admit that I was a bandwagon Bulls fan because of MJ, but not for long – Pat made me realize I had a good thing right here in NY. Best shooting stroke of any big man I’ve ever seen. The baseline fadeaway….redonkulous.

He also scored over 30 points in every game I went to, all Knicks victories. The best was the announcer after he scored at home….“Pa-trick Ewing!! (organ plays a few notes)”

If you're a real Yankee fan, please do the rest of us a favor and splurge the extra cash on a replica jersey without a last name on the back. Frankly, it's embarassing.

by total hermination on Jul 30, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder

If he thinks “I’m swishin and dishin” when he’s getting assist
or “I’m stopping and popping” when he hits a jumper… I bet he does.

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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 29, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clyde

Clyde – you youngsters have no idea how freaking great he was. 36pts, 19 assists – game 7. That says it all.

by meandterry on Jul 29, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Dont forget the 5 steals!!

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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 29, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I gotta go with Clyde also

if not for any other reason than I never had the pleasure of watching him growing up. Like many on here, before my time. I loved watching Ewing, and I’d want to see him again, too, if it meant he it would be without the knee problems. Dude was a real warrior in the paint, played with tons of heart, but nothing hurt more than watching him run up court on those gimpy knees sometimes. Willis Reed would be my 3rd pick

by screamedia on Jul 29, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im going with my homie ewing!

Him and stoudemire would be two towers blocking the sun! who could stop us!? Seriously.. who? no one.

by 2017MaxCat on Jul 29, 2010 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Ewing

Thats the era i grew up in.. and with that being the weakest spot on our current roster.. and probably the first point of attack for opposing teams. Ewing would shut that shit down. offensively and defensively

Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do

by semsemma on Jul 29, 2010 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

but aye

why do you have male cheerleaders…. put some knick city dancers up there yo

Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do

by semsemma on Jul 29, 2010 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

If I

Edited those cheerleaders it would be formatting hell getting everything back to how it is now. But it would have been nice to get some Knick city dancers though, they’re too stuck up!

"As humans we strive for success but live with fear. If success was inevitable, fear cannot exist" Michael Kelley

by MikeTheIntern on Jul 29, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

To my young compatriots

I heartily recommend the History of the Knicks documentaries that you can find on the Knicks multi-DVD set put out by the NBA. Some great, great footage of Bernard King and the historic Pistons and Celtics series from 1984.

When I saw the headline of this post, I thought it was going to be about what numbers should the Knicks retire. I know it’s a minority opinion, but I would love to see them retire the numbers for Oakley, Starks, and Houston. They’re much, much better players and more beloved than some of the jokers who are retired by other, lesser franchises like the Celtics and Heat.

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by Serious Garbage Time on Jul 29, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

If Houston becomes our GM

and does a good job at it, he’ll definitely have his number retired. But I agree with you, those guys might not be legends to the NBA but they’re legends to us as Knick fans and that’s all that should matter.

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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 29, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big Rec on the Knicks box set thing

Bought it for pop-dukes for his b-day. That shit is dope. For those who have never seen any pre-90s Knicks teams, its illuminating. And its narrated by Clyde. Pretty much a no-brainer.

"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy

by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jul 29, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

While we're rec'ing

Those looking for a newborn baby present could do worse than the Knicks Baby DVD, also narrated by Clyde himself. Start ’em young.

"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"

by Serious Garbage Time on Jul 29, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol.. rec'd

 my son is due any day now.

Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do

by semsemma on Jul 30, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ewing in his prime along side STAT??? Would be sick.

I’d start AR at the 3 and Gallo at the 2 with Felton running the point with that crew. With that length and athleticism we would outmatch just about everybody. Ewing was born for this team and this style of offense. Too bad he came 20 years too early. He could get up and down the court and loved to play the base-line finesse game rather than bang, which would be perfect for STAT.

Would love to bring Oak along too for the 2nd unit and pair him up with Mosgov for enforcement purposes.

by Crackback on Jul 29, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Dominance.

To sum it up in one word.

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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 29, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I'd love Ewing...

fact of the matter is nowadays a guy like Clyde would be ridonkulous. He’s one of the most complete PG’s in the history of the game…so imagine we had a dude who’s basically Jason Kidd, except he likes women instead of beating them? I have no doubts Clyde would’ve developed that 3 ball as well if it was a part of the game.

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 29, 2010 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

except he likes women instead of beating them?

Hillarious

by Crackback on Jul 29, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clyde

was a much, much, much better shooter than Kidd and a better defender too.

"Dishin' and swishin' in transition"

by Serious Garbage Time on Jul 29, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think that there was a good chance

clyde could have put on a uni and played better then Duhon last season.

Of course, he would almost have to wear the baggy shorts, and I am not sure he would want to do that. Which is of course the reason it didnt happen.

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Jul 29, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

i voted for king

but thinking about it should prob have voted Clyde.

a) Like Houston as a person, but he was one of my least favorite knicks when he was playing. JUST DRIVE TO THE HOOP ALLAN! GET TO THE FREAKING LINE! came out of my mouth 2000 times a game.

b) I would think about who we have now and what would go with it. Clyde in this system would be awesome. Ewing does not seem like the kind of C that would work well with Mike D. But I dont really know about that too much…

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Jul 29, 2010 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

With respect to Felton

Clyde is the quintessential up-tempo PG. He would have this offense scoring 130 a game.

Pat’s a half-court kinda dude.

"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy

by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Jul 29, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Clyde

It has nothing to do with him fitting the team, even though he or King would fill the biggest needs. I was just born after he retired and never have seen him play, at all.

by Dutchmarau on Jul 29, 2010 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Watch some of the ESPN classic games or those shown on MSG.You'll see what

everyone on here is saying.If he had been teamed with the Patrick Ewing Knicks at the point,
the Knicks would have beaten the Bulls.Long live Clyde!

by Putnan Prince on Jul 30, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats where I mostly see them. ESPN Classics.

Even the classic games they show that have nothing to do with the Knicks are good to watch. But yeah man, Clyde was a stealing machine and always found the open man.

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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 30, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only thing is I'm out of market

But I did splurge on that DVD folks mentioned in this thread. 10 bucks, 8 games. One of which has Clyde so I’ll see what’s up soon enough

by Dutchmarau on Jul 31, 2010 5:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bernard King

man i voted for bernard but i would like clyde as well.
how about all thee above…

by choplo on Jul 29, 2010 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

movin’ & groovin’, frontin’ & gruntin’, spinnin’ & winnin’, wheelin’ & dealin’, & postin’ & toastin’, whether the pace was vascillatin’ or discombobulatin’, got 2b Clyde!

by Clyde1970 on Jul 29, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

ovulating and sodomating

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 29, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

2K or EA

Should definitely let him commentate the Knick games at the garden in 2K11 and NBA Elite11.

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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 29, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's no way

Clyde would ever sit in a recording studio for three weeks saying words into a microphone over and over again. Man’s got too much to do.

by gbnypat on Jul 30, 2010 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

i voted ewing. btw mike needs to work for p&t he has had so much success give em a job :)

by J3TSFANFORLYF3 on Jul 30, 2010 7:25 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm glad you like my work :D

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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 30, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree...

guess thats his…. trademark?

Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do

by semsemma on Jul 30, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not a trademark

I just love the little buggers.
I’ll stop using them in my post, but they’ll stay in my comments.

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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 30, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Occasionally

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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 30, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i mean

do your thing, honestly, no sense in trying to appeal to me.

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by stingy d on Jul 31, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I voted for King

In his prime (and while healthy), he could not be stopped. The only guy Larry Bird said he was afraid to guard. Seriously, he could drop 40 whenever he wanted. That he isn’t on the Top 50 All-Time list is a joke. (But that list is a joke now, anyway)
So unbelievably under-rated it’s criminal. You put a healthy Bernard King on this team and they run with the Heat, easy.

I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.

by Vacafan on Jul 30, 2010 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Completely agree with you.

100%

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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 30, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bernard King used to dominate Kelly TRipucka.Knicks announcer when he played for Detroit

He tells some funny stories about trying to guard King like he felt like a dog chasing down a car.

by Putnan Prince on Jul 30, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

kelly tripucka has always been a joke to me

on so many levels. but one of the highlights is how his name rhymes with bazooka.

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by stingy d on Jul 30, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow! Editors Pick.

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by MikeTheIntern on Jul 30, 2010 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. Ewing (w/ healthy knees so he can run with the team) #2 King # Clyde

Starks is arguably my fav Knick of all time but he would be wayyyy behind those dudes in terms of pickin the best guy or the best fit. He would be a fantastic fit for this roster, though.

by paxon on Jul 30, 2010 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Sprewell

fits best in this current system. i remember the ’99 finals and he was EVERYWHERE on the floor. kinda like a leaner Carmelo Anthony that can do anything and everything.

in your Allan Houston remarks you said it was the ’99 ECF, but it was actually the First round that we knocked the Heat out! which makes it even more devastating. we swept the Hawks and defeated the Pacers in the ECF that year.

as far as numbers that should definitely be retired, i’d definitely want to see Oak, Mason, Starks and Allan Houston’s numbers going up in the rafters.

and why was mark action jackson and the x-man himself not on this list as honorable mentions? i may have been 6 years old at the time, but those two names made Michael Jordan’s life a living hell too.

by renovator on Jul 30, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

rec'd

i could probably read people waxing about clyde all fuggin day! thanks for this, seriously!

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by stingy d on Jul 31, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

word.

I really wish I could’ve seen that dude play 82 games

Beer me

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 31, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

having a couple championships

probably pretty thrilling too.

just bought a copy of clyde’s book “rocking steady”… bout to dive in.

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by stingy d on Jul 31, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

AttKnicksFan

Excellent post-so much to comment on. Clyde would NEVER have pulled a Starks-he wouldn’t have kept on shooting, or even taking the same shot over and over like Starks’ threes. If he was shooting badly, Clyde would set up his teammates, or wait for a layup or a couple free throws to get a clean look and get in rhythm. The worst part of that game is that Ewing was ON FIRE in the 3Q, but Riley wanted another scoring option.

Clyde would let a player beat him on a particular move early in the game to set up a steal on the same move at the exact right time in the 4Q. He often tells a story about Elgin Baylor breaking him down and how he was devastated, but would never blow his cool-as he’s going back up the court, the players are saying “everyone knows Clyde doesn’t start playing until the fourth!”. Simply the coolest.

by Clyde1970 on Aug 1, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta go with Clyde

He’d average 36 & 19 a game in D’Antoni’s system.

I won’t lie though, I’d freaking love to have the ‘98-99 – 99-00 Sprewell on this team. He’d be better than Chandler, Bukie or Walker and a better shooter too. He’d bring that NYC toughness we need

by WSD on Aug 1, 2010 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Spree was my fav knick

when he was on the team.

He would love playing for Mike D.

I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.

by gbaked on Aug 2, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

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